I really doubt that she will. She has no common sense, she is sure she is not subject to these laws. Yes any reasonable person would take the free get out of jail card, take the no penalty. The fact she has not jumped at the deal tells you she's nuts...
I think she's being influenced by an outside source. And I don't know if it's early dementia or just not that bright, but a reasonable person would already be done with this. Actually, a reasonable person would never have been there....
Funny why the A.D. and the judge are dying to get this woman pretty much acquitted and get rid of her. With her mentality being what it is, she is almost certain to re-offend and we'll go through this same silliness in 6 months.
I agree that the prosecutor and the judge are working WAY TOO HARD toward ensuring that nice lady won't see even slight punishment. The deal ends up with no punishment -- not even a conviction on her record -- for her actions that Judge Middleton described as "outrageous with a capital O." Driving without registration or without a license is one thing... Sure, illegal, but it can be dealt with. Her vigor for messing with police and for wasting police time and court time is unacceptable and merits more than one night in jail. Justice is not being done in this case.
Stop offering these people deals! I loved it when Deborah filed felony charges against that one sovcit. that forged a passport to support his claims. That's how you do it.
There she goes. Getting the continuance she wanted because her court appointed advocate wouldn't be her bestie. What a waste of time and money. Thanks OSG. We sure do love the follow ups. 🤣❤
It amazes me how people cannot get out of their own way in life. It saddens me that they will blame everyone around them without looking in a mirror for the truth.
If I were the prosecutor I would have said fine take your 30 days, but the deal is off the table once you leave this room. There's no magical evidence that she's going to come up with from the discovery, she was caught dead to rights. Just wasting the court and the police officers time, as well as the taxpayers money.
Judge M. gave the lady a night in jail for contempt because she kept on with the script and refused to answer his questions until he answered hers. She refuse and went into the slammer. While there she refused to let them finger print her. If she DIDN'T let them fingerprint her again, she would sit in jail for two weeks for this particular court date. Love Judge M.
@@Blasted2Oblivion Same thing. She was talking and interrupting with the script. She couldn't get past Maritime stuff for one. Now here I go trying to help and get snapped at by a Squishy old gardener...how's that for a thing?
"Boroughgroves!" I saw the sovcit court video on Monday where Judge Middleton said this would be his term to refer to people who couldn't/wouldn't give their legal names or ID themselves with any kind of name. Judge also quoted from The Jabberwocky poem saying it made as much sense as what that specific "boroughgrove" was saying and asking in court that day. I agree!
borogove (plural borogoves) is an animal introduced in the nonsense poem Jabberwocky. According to Humpty Dumpty, a borogove is "a thin shabby-looking bird with its feathers sticking out all round, something like a live mop."
I hope she refuses the plea, it is far to generous and only playing to her wacky ideas she needs to be found guilty and put in prison for 6 months I'm sure she will come out with a different attitude.
Surely you jest. If she goes to jail, she'll just think of herself as a martyr and run into another sovshit in the pokey, which will make her even crazier. Then when she gets out, she'll do something dumb (again) and we'll get another video!
I think she doesn't actually understand anything that's happening, including her "defense". Her son was in there the first time, clearly having advised her on the things to say. So my guess is he's the one who went down the hole and she just trusted he knew what he was doing/talking about since she couldn't understand any of it herself, and just followed his instructions & parrots whatever he told her to say.
I wish the state could establish a sunset date on their generous offer ... like 1/2 hour to consult with your attorney and then take or or lose it. The useless delays are costing taxpayers.
I have a feeling that she will piss away this great offer by representing herself and citing blacks law dictionary over and over. She will be spending some time in county jail because she is a fool!
This is why everyone needs to have education… they offer her the ability to go off scott free, and she wants to defend herself from a felony charge… what an idiot.
If I am the prosecutor, I am withdrawing my offer and sending this psychotic nitwit to Felony Court. Nothing says proof of jurisdiction like the clanging of a cell door.
"We've all heard Albert Einstein's famous line: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." As it turns out, insanity might be crediting that quote to Einstein over and over again. He never said it" -Google Search result.
Since she wants to play games, the judge should play one too. Let her drag it out as long as she wants. And when she accepts the deal at the end, he should deny it, and put her in jail for about 45 days.
It's time for the prosecutor now to write a drop-dead letter to the defense, setting a date by which the offer must be accepted or they will take the case to trial and, if they convict her, seek a sentence befitting the defendant's obstreperous and defiant refusal to admit she did that which is plainly recorded on video.
This judge is the exact problem. He should be ashamed. Why would any officer or prosecutor bother to take a case before this wet dishrag. The patients truly run the asylum.
I think that they should have said the plea deal was only on offer today. If you accept it and we get this sorted today, all is good. If you mess us around and continue to stall, all vers are off.
I hope this goes to trail now. This idiot got her license back and I hope she loses it again because we all know that she will be driving I mean traveling with or without a license because rules/ laws don’t apply to the sovereign idiots.
I am honestly shocked at this judge that he yet continued it again. I certainly expected him to give her a maximum judgement, playing sov-🐢 this time around!❤ Thanks yet again OSG being on the lookout for cases we've been watching, I was sick and am catching up. Thank you!
When are these people going to learn that sovereign citizen legal arguments are completely invalid and have no legal weight in court?? Going to court with a sovereign citizen defense is the same thing as showing up with no defense whatsoever.
Judge Middleton had the power to deny this frivolous request but used his discretion not to. Now that she's not acting like a complete anti-social jackass it looks like the judge is showing some compassion towards her, hoping she will make the obvious decision to accept the plea offer. He knows if she doesn't and this goes to trial she will lose the case and with it, her license.
For crying out loud prosecutor withdraw the offer and charge her with the original offenses. AND request maximum penalties. Teach this old bitty a lesson she’ll not soon forget!
@@hegyak true, but if you can teach someone not to be a sovcit without giving them a prison record then that is a plus. If you can't then yeah. Toss them in a cell and they can learn that way but sometimes a lighter touch can work.
@@Blasted2OblivionOften, punishing someone severely makes them cling to their ideas harder. Anything they can do to encourage her not to make “sovereign citizen” her identity is a good thing.
I bet she’s gonna push for a trial & then be found guilty of it all then moan about not being treated fairly & her rights violated. She will never be happy because non of it will be her idea on her terms.
I love 😍 follow ups. Thanks. As much as I find sovereign citizens amusing. What many do not seem to understand is that if these folks are allowed to continue on this crazy path they will at some point hurt other people. Sovereign cits do not misunderstand. They simply WANT to be entitled and do what they want w/o accountability. They can become a danger to society
8:17 Agreed! NO MORE DELAYS!!!!! She has everything she needs, she said that she’d “like to get her lawyer better” (if I heard correctly?)! What kinda horse crap excuse is that?! Not to mention that poor police officer 👮!
We shouldn't have to pay for her to ask for more time for that officer to take off work when he could be doing something useful with the taxpayers money. Starting with the police officer the lawyers and the judge has every time you have to see her face in there cuz nothing ever gets solved. Waste of time. They would have more money to pay these officers for choosing a job that put some definitely in the line of fire
It’s true, the arguments are ridiculous! But when tie up more of the courts time than what it’s worth, a lot of times they offer a plea deal that basically equals nothing.
Judge Middleton’s trying hard to make “borogrove” happen. I can’t decide whether it’s a good idea or whether it’s better to stick with “sovereign citizen.”
If she truly believed in her nonsensical Sovcidiot beliefs...WHY then did she go out and get her license fixed? Most of these Dingus Muppets say that they do not need a license when "traveling" anyhow. When are the Courts just going to stop messing around with this chit?
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I agree with you OSG, too many prosecutors don't want to deal with these people and give them breaks they don't deserve. It fuels their delusions.
@@SnakePlisskenNY no.
Take away the deal and make her understand the MAX she can get. She will gets off the sovcit horse.
I really doubt that she will. She has no common sense, she is sure she is not subject to these laws. Yes any reasonable person would take the free get out of jail card, take the no penalty. The fact she has not jumped at the deal tells you she's nuts...
I’m surprised this judge bending over backwards with her same result with another atty. He said as much
If I was the prosecutor, I would just withdraw the offer and give her the pain she’s asking for!!!
She needs to have a mental evaluation. She doesn’t seem to be aware of what they were trying to do for her.
That is what I got out it - listening to her talk it doesn't seem she processes information.
It’s the same willful deafness all sovcits develop. Her brains are fine, it’s her beliefs that are the problem.
I think she's being influenced by an outside source. And I don't know if it's early dementia or just not that bright, but a reasonable person would already be done with this. Actually, a reasonable person would never have been there....
@@joetrolo7076 At the end of the first video, as she's going off to jail, it seemed pretty clear that outside source is her son.
Funny why the A.D. and the judge are dying to get this woman pretty much acquitted and get rid of her. With her mentality being what it is, she is almost certain to re-offend and we'll go through this same silliness in 6 months.
I don’t think she’ll reoffend. She’s managed to avoid all these for years…. That’s the only reason she’s getting this amazing deal from the DA
@Meatball2022 no, she just won't get caught.
I agree that the prosecutor and the judge are working WAY TOO HARD toward ensuring that nice lady won't see even slight punishment. The deal ends up with no punishment -- not even a conviction on her record -- for her actions that Judge Middleton described as "outrageous with a capital O."
Driving without registration or without a license is one thing... Sure, illegal, but it can be dealt with. Her vigor for messing with police and for wasting police time and court time is unacceptable and merits more than one night in jail.
Justice is not being done in this case.
She already got her license back so unless she loses it for some reason it would be hard to reoffend, at least with the same charge.
@@I_Art_Laughing yea that’s kinda what I wanted to get at with my comment. But you’re right. She somehow avoided getting caught long time before this.
Stop offering these people deals! I loved it when Deborah filed felony charges against that one sovcit. that forged a passport to support his claims. That's how you do it.
There she goes. Getting the continuance she wanted because her court appointed advocate wouldn't be her bestie. What a waste of time and money.
Thanks OSG. We sure do love the follow ups. 🤣❤
Be my lady? You're pretty.
@@YourNightmare4u2c Thanks but I'm married.
@@Lady1974M it was sarcasm on my part.....can't really do much through a website. Although I was being truthful when I said that you are pretty. 🙂
Bad news is, we have to watch her again. Good news is, we get to watch her again!! 😂😂
It amazes me how people cannot get out of their own way in life. It saddens me that they will blame everyone around them without looking in a mirror for the truth.
Why not take the plea deal off the table? She doesn’t seem to understand what is happening. Give that deal to someone else
If I were the prosecutor I would have said fine take your 30 days, but the deal is off the table once you leave this room. There's no magical evidence that she's going to come up with from the discovery, she was caught dead to rights. Just wasting the court and the police officers time, as well as the taxpayers money.
Judge M. gave the lady a night in jail for contempt because she kept on with the script and refused to answer his questions until he answered hers. She refuse and went into the slammer. While there she refused to let them finger print her. If she DIDN'T let them fingerprint her again, she would sit in jail for two weeks for this particular court date. Love Judge M.
That isn't entirely accurate. She was held in contempt for over talking and interrupting.
@@Blasted2Oblivion Same thing. She was talking and interrupting with the script. She couldn't get past Maritime stuff for one. Now here I go trying to help and get snapped at by a Squishy old gardener...how's that for a thing?
And he DID answer her questions- several times- she just wasn't listening.
@@moonprincessRNhe can't make stupid people comprehend. A shame her gene pool lives on.
Facing two years in jail and she does not want legal advice. 😰
Absolutely ridiculous
“A back-to-back magnet effect on a few issues” actually a very poetic turn of phrase from a sovereign citizen🥲
"Boroughgroves!" I saw the sovcit court video on Monday where Judge Middleton said this would be his term to refer to people who couldn't/wouldn't give their legal names or ID themselves with any kind of name. Judge also quoted from The Jabberwocky poem saying it made as much sense as what that specific "boroughgrove" was saying and asking in court that day. I agree!
borogove (plural borogoves) is an animal introduced in the nonsense poem Jabberwocky. According to Humpty Dumpty, a borogove is "a thin shabby-looking bird with its feathers sticking out all round, something like a live mop."
Stalling like this is another SovCit tactic
Then the deal should be off the table then
I hope she refuses the plea, it is far to generous and only playing to her wacky ideas she needs to be found guilty and put in prison for 6 months I'm sure she will come out with a different attitude.
Surely you jest. If she goes to jail, she'll just think of herself as a martyr and run into another sovshit in the pokey, which will make her even crazier. Then when she gets out, she'll do something dumb (again) and we'll get another video!
Although if she is found guilty, she is looking at two years. She will have definitely have a different attitude by then.
@@SnakePlisskenNY No there is no defect in the states case they feel sorry for a deluded old woman
Love the judges assessment of her chance of getting another attorney who will agree with her delusions.
I must admit that I'm disappointed. I had hope when she accepted a lawyer. She's to far down the rabbit hole.
Too*
I think she doesn't actually understand anything that's happening, including her "defense". Her son was in there the first time, clearly having advised her on the things to say. So my guess is he's the one who went down the hole and she just trusted he knew what he was doing/talking about since she couldn't understand any of it herself, and just followed his instructions & parrots whatever he told her to say.
@@HostileTakeover2 excuses! That's why you hire an attorney or ask for one free of charge!
I wish the state could establish a sunset date on their generous offer ... like 1/2 hour to consult with your attorney and then take or or lose it. The useless delays are costing taxpayers.
I cannot believe what these jerks are allowed to get away with, I hope the DA withdraws any deals and she spends at least 10 days in jail.
I have a feeling that she will piss away this great offer by representing herself and citing blacks law dictionary over and over.
She will be spending some time in county jail because she is a fool!
all this could be sorted in ten minutes the judge has to take some of the blame for this farce.
This is why everyone needs to have education… they offer her the ability to go off scott free, and she wants to defend herself from a felony charge… what an idiot.
Should just let granny deal with the original charges and face the jury of her peers.
Aw judge! Don't feed the borogoves, it just makes them more mimsy. 😒
I hope they go all the way to trial and that, in addition to losing her license, Middleton throws the book at her for the felony.
Unless she was seriously mistreated in this traffic stop, this is just madness. How stupid can you be?
The prosecutor should now withdraw the offer and let all the original charges stand.
If I am the prosecutor, I am withdrawing my offer and sending this psychotic nitwit to Felony Court. Nothing says proof of jurisdiction like the clanging of a cell door.
I keep saying that the whole sovcidiot jargon sounds like a joke from the Onion, National Lampoon or 4Chan.
🤣🤣
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein
That's the SovCit in a nutshell.
"We've all heard Albert Einstein's famous line: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." As it turns out, insanity might be crediting that quote to Einstein over and over again. He never said it" -Google Search result.
"Fully 80% of sayings attributed to Albert Einstein on the net are bogus." - Abraham Lincoln
@@JiveDadson "74% of quoted statistics are made up" - Fred Flintstone
Since she wants to play games, the judge should play one too. Let her drag it out as long as she wants. And when she accepts the deal at the end, he should deny it, and put her in jail for about 45 days.
It's time for the prosecutor now to write a drop-dead letter to the defense, setting a date by which the offer must be accepted or they will take the case to trial and, if they convict her, seek a sentence befitting the defendant's obstreperous and defiant refusal to admit she did that which is plainly recorded on video.
YES.
This judge is the exact problem. He should be ashamed.
Why would any officer or prosecutor bother to take a case before this wet dishrag.
The patients truly run the asylum.
Why did they arrest her if there is no penalty and they just waste so much courthouse time.
A bit disappointing to have to wait another 30 days but that’s not your fault OSG! Thanks for the update!
I like this judge a lot, but if he thinks a continuance is going to make things better, he is deluded.
We were having “a back to back- magnet- effect” on these issues… love it
I know it's not Judge Middletons style but if it were me I'd find her guilty suspend her licence and lock her up for 3 months.
That would be a favour. She is currently looking at 2-3 years in person for resisting arrest.
Another unfortunate delay??? I’m disappointed and disgusted with this court and the way they handled this issue.
I think that they should have said the plea deal was only on offer today. If you accept it and we get this sorted today, all is good. If you mess us around and continue to stall, all vers are off.
Why, please tell me why he is still appeasing her insanity
How so?
@@remliqa By continuing to adjourn her case
Because she is pitiful.
@@JiveDadson In my years in a law office I never knew pity was a defense.
Maybe because he knows we're watching and wants to make quality entertainment for us? LOL
His court appointed attorney goes to the jail every Sunday to talk to him and he is still not satisfied
I hope this goes to trail now. This idiot got her license back and I hope she loses it again because we all know that she will be driving I mean traveling with or without a license because rules/ laws don’t apply to the sovereign idiots.
Waiting for the finale…when Judge says “I don’t accept this plea deal”.
I am honestly shocked at this judge that he yet continued it again. I certainly expected him to give her a maximum judgement, playing sov-🐢 this time around!❤
Thanks yet again OSG being on the lookout for cases we've been watching, I was sick and am catching up.
Thank you!
I find it extremely hard to believe that any judge puts up with this BS
I haven't watched to the end yet, but I hope she is obstinate enough to take it all the way and risk a felony.
That was an offer She could not refuse UNLESS she is stupid. Very patient system.
Mimsy Were the Borogoves…. I almost forgot that comparison by Judge Middleton
When are these people going to learn that sovereign citizen legal arguments are completely invalid and have no legal weight in court?? Going to court with a sovereign citizen defense is the same thing as showing up with no defense whatsoever.
Good old Judge Middleton, too kind.
I wish they would take the deal away and just slam the lady....she should be absolutely ashamed.
Judge Middleton had the power to deny this frivolous request but used his discretion not to. Now that she's not acting like a complete anti-social jackass it looks like the judge is showing some compassion towards her, hoping she will make the obvious decision to accept the plea offer.
He knows if she doesn't and this goes to trial she will lose the case and with it, her license.
Won't stop her from driving even if she does lose her licence again. She'll call it "travelling" and be back in court in a few months.
Oh part II - I gotta find out what happened! I hope the lady enjoyed her night in jail for contempt.
I don't get what these people think they're going to get out of fighting these sorts of charges. WTH are they thinking?
I am sure there are times when a judge throws the book at one of them, because they are tired of it too.
She didn’t want an attorney
For crying out loud prosecutor withdraw the offer and charge her with the original offenses. AND request maximum penalties. Teach this old bitty a lesson she’ll not soon forget!
I suspect she is new to the whole sovcit thing and they are hoping they can shake her free of the stupidity.
@@Blasted2Oblivion Prison would do that. Consequences do that.
@@hegyak true, but if you can teach someone not to be a sovcit without giving them a prison record then that is a plus. If you can't then yeah. Toss them in a cell and they can learn that way but sometimes a lighter touch can work.
@@Blasted2OblivionOften, punishing someone severely makes them cling to their ideas harder. Anything they can do to encourage her not to make “sovereign citizen” her identity is a good thing.
More delays...a SovCit standard
What a push over judge. No wonder that state is going down the tubes
He’s a good judge he’s just trying to help her get out of her own way
Un freaking real - What a waste of time money and space - this is really frustrating and I think the judge is very wrong on this one.
What a waste of everyone's time & taxpayer's money !
Absolutely not!! She is wasting time!
Somebody really got into this lady’s head. These folks who believe they are outside the law are a sad lot.
Judge, the word is ILLOGICAL…..SOV CITS ARE ILLOGICAL!
There is a point when you realize why your taxes are so high.
OMG 30 more days, it needs to be settled. She's and those people like her are just a bit crazy.
Delay is a joke make her go to trial....no plea deal.
Her losing her brand new license isn't really an issue because she is going to drive with it or without it.
Ohh goodie we get to see her again!
2x probably!
I bet she’s gonna push for a trial & then be found guilty of it all then moan about not being treated fairly & her rights violated. She will never be happy because non of it will be her idea on her terms.
Wrong judgement. Extra charges of wasting police time so she can ‘get to know’ the PD.
The fact that she went and got a drivers license should nullify her sovtard arguments.
I'll bet her attitude towards continuations would be different if she was in jail.
I love 😍 follow ups. Thanks. As much as I find sovereign citizens amusing.
What many do not seem to understand is that if these folks are allowed to continue on this crazy path they will at some point hurt other people. Sovereign cits do not misunderstand. They simply WANT to be entitled and do what they want w/o accountability. They can become a danger to society
EVERYBODY luvs follow ups!
It’s a delusion resembling the whole “transgender” nonsense. They “want” us to believe their BS
8:17 Agreed! NO MORE DELAYS!!!!!
She has everything she needs, she said that she’d “like to get her lawyer better” (if I heard correctly?)!
What kinda horse crap excuse is that?!
Not to mention that poor police officer 👮!
Such a waste of time and tax payer money ....makes me sick.
I wear the black robe. I rule from the bench... We made the BAR... and the officers of the court.. Behave and Submit...
She makes absolutely no sense! I'd jump on that deal.😊
Oh sweet Jesus!
It is wrong to always go easy in court on these idiots. A slap in the face to police. Pathetic.
Take the deal off the table.
That old woman her mind is not right they give her ever chance in the books she still doesn't want to settle.
We shouldn't have to pay for her to ask for more time for that officer to take off work when he could be doing something useful with the taxpayers money. Starting with the police officer the lawyers and the judge has every time you have to see her face in there cuz nothing ever gets solved. Waste of time. They would have more money to pay these officers for choosing a job that put some definitely in the line of fire
Yeah, I'd say she shouldn't get her license back until she pays up for the cop's overtime.
I strongly beleive she will waste the time of the Court in August.
"All wimsy were the borogoves" Lewis Carroll.
mimsy
Go to trial and convict her.
The Jabberwocky references are killing me.
sad that the gullible fall for this sort of nonsense.
30 day continuance was likely granted because she started to play along with the justice system and not rewarding that would gum up the works
It’s true, the arguments are ridiculous! But when tie up more of the courts time than what it’s worth, a lot of times they offer a plea deal that basically equals nothing.
Judge Middleton’s trying hard to make “borogrove” happen. I can’t decide whether it’s a good idea or whether it’s better to stick with “sovereign citizen.”
If she truly believed in her nonsensical Sovcidiot beliefs...WHY then did she go out and get her license fixed? Most of these Dingus Muppets say that they do not need a license when "traveling" anyhow. When are the Courts just going to stop messing around with this chit?
What a crock!!!
so if I'm the prosecutor i would tell her that deal comes off the table today, if we have to come back then no deal, original charges in full
I saw all the previous videos of this lady. She had tons of chances and excellent advice; she refused. So, consequences.
What a waste of everyones time. Maybe they should just rescinded the deal. See how she likes that.