So many new players in the market, but JL is still top of the game. It's very clean, well defined bass throughout. There is a simple acid test for how well the sub dilineates bass, play a natural plucked double bass instrument.
I love to see and live audiotioning of JL TW3 vs Hert Mille vs AudioMobile Evo 2410 S4 vs Sundown SD4 vs Sundown SML 10 vs Skar VD 10".🤔 PS: 10" best Shallow war. Thank'X.
u 4 got the fqz -hz 4 the JL. I like JL and was a dedicated user for over 20yrs but JL is now over priced now for even there low end products they pull the price of high end lines sold by say Kicker or Rockford. thanks for sharing
Great review. I am looking for a sub myself, but something that is good, clean bass, can be punchy when i need it. I am also trying to reserve space, and also keep in mind, I am not keeping this car forever since I am in Japan, and may be returning back to the states in 2-6 years. Do you know anything about the underseat subwoofers?
Should probably talk about more than the specs on the box. What's the XMAX etc because frequency response doesn't really mean anything coming from the company. Especially lower end companies like Power Bass. Also if you're running your subwoofer higher higher than 80-100hz or so you're doing it wrong lol.
I'm incredibly torn. I really appreciate anyone, be it manufacturer, retailer or industry 'tuber bothering to put out aftermarket ICE content. The market is just so small that I find it difficult to believe it's worth the effort. That being said, I'm uncomfortable with a video that presents itself as a product tour and then becomes a sort of review, but some of the information contained inside it is borderline at best, and flat out misleading at worst. Chiefly: Saying that a sub that can play up to 600hz is somehow superior to one that only plays up to 250hz. Any car audio sub should be crossed over at 80-100hz *absolute max* so the frequency response above that is of no interest whatsoever. Covering the mounting depths while omitting the recommended enclosure size is missing the point. For example, while the JL sub is deeper than the JBL, it actually requires a smaller box, so may be *more* suitable in applications where you have less space! I'm sure that someone in the CAS team knows all this - they must have forgotten more about car audio than I'll ever know! Please keep putting out this kind of content, but people will take your word as gospel so maybe get one of the tech boys to review the script before filming? Looking forward to the TW3 video - they *are* monsters!
@@Dingleberry1856 not sure what you're saying here. I'm not one of the biggest UK retailers of car audio putting out a video that a lot of people will take as gospel. CAS *have* the resources to provide 100% accurate advice, so they sort of should at the end of the day. But thanks for your two sentences and the attempted insult. Never been called a 'gomer' before.
zero experience with any of thsese but i'd love to try the rockfords, always loved rockfords. I do have experience with the kicker cvt 12 and they were pretty decent aswell. any recommendations for a small box in a small car?
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been searching for shallow subs for awhile. More on the higher end. I'm currently running 2 P3's and wanting to change them out. What's yr take on Hertz new shallow mps 250 s2. I was also considering the Jl tw-3 as well but instead of running 12's I wanna use 4 shallow 10's on this build.
RUclipsrs are looking for partners for this Pioneer model. I can't find him anywhere. I mean a plastic rim with 6 bolts. Ts-D10D4- 10 inch Thanks for any help
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So many new players in the market, but JL is still top of the game. It's very clean, well defined bass throughout.
There is a simple acid test for how well the sub dilineates bass, play a natural plucked double bass instrument.
The new Hertz shallow 10s are the top dogs as of now
@@MLProductions.1bought a 12” of them and it’s quite a beast
@@eclampsium have 2 in my truck. For what it is they pound. Compared to full size subs they still suck. But when you have no choice you have no choice
I ran the tw3 in a custom designed ported box. With 700 rms it was merciless.
I'd love a review of the TW3.
Like we didn’t know, JL would win 🥇🥇🥇
I like these kinds of videos, but I think the X-max of the subwoofer should also be showed because that also has a lot to do with the output.
Yep. Many cheap shallow sw have mediocre excursion…
I have shallow mount L7T kicker subs. The shallow mount squares pound and are amazing
Yes please do a review of the JL audio tw3
Sure, will organise one 👍🏼
One platform tested the jl against audio mobile and audio mobile did much better for a little cheaper price and handled more watts as well.
Can you comment on sound quality? In my experience JL has been the best
Kicker
I use to run rockford fosgate 10” and they kicked pretty hard
JL tw3 all the way, but unfortunately you can probably build a whole JBL or RF system for the cost of 2 JL subs alone lol. Still love JL!
I switched Fosgate for jl. Sounds cleaner to me.
Wish they had these when I had my 91 s-10 regular cab. I had a 8 inch L7 and was maxed right out
Thanks for the review of the P3 shallows 💪🏼
No problem 👍
Info of how much cubic space needed for the best performance would be useful as well
Nothing compares to the 13tw5 💪💪💪
Im literally going today to have a jl 10tw3 put in my 97 single cab ford r250
Could you guys also do a buyer's guide for car audio eg speakers subs amps etc
I love to see and live audiotioning of JL TW3 vs Hert Mille vs AudioMobile Evo 2410 S4 vs Sundown SD4 vs Sundown SML 10 vs Skar VD 10".🤔
PS: 10" best Shallow war. Thank'X.
Can we please get a review of the TW3? Would love honest feedback on performance and your personal opinion
Love my jls for sq
u 4 got the fqz -hz 4 the JL. I like JL and was a dedicated user for over 20yrs but JL is now over priced now for even there low end products they pull the price of high end lines sold by say Kicker or Rockford. thanks for sharing
I have the jbl sub and this sub hits hard for a shallow mount.
What size it and what kind of car are you in?
Great review. I am looking for a sub myself, but something that is good, clean bass, can be punchy when i need it. I am also trying to reserve space, and also keep in mind, I am not keeping this car forever since I am in Japan, and may be returning back to the states in 2-6 years. Do you know anything about the underseat subwoofers?
Usually not able to dive too much deep like 30-40hz with authority
Should probably talk about more than the specs on the box. What's the XMAX etc because frequency response doesn't really mean anything coming from the company. Especially lower end companies like Power Bass. Also if you're running your subwoofer higher higher than 80-100hz or so you're doing it wrong lol.
Lower end like power bass??? Because Infineon isn’t Chinese build houses. You obviously don’t know much.
Yes do the jl plus what about the kickers???
Could you do a review on tw5 with other subwoofer in its class.
I'm incredibly torn. I really appreciate anyone, be it manufacturer, retailer or industry 'tuber bothering to put out aftermarket ICE content. The market is just so small that I find it difficult to believe it's worth the effort.
That being said, I'm uncomfortable with a video that presents itself as a product tour and then becomes a sort of review, but some of the information contained inside it is borderline at best, and flat out misleading at worst. Chiefly:
Saying that a sub that can play up to 600hz is somehow superior to one that only plays up to 250hz. Any car audio sub should be crossed over at 80-100hz *absolute max* so the frequency response above that is of no interest whatsoever.
Covering the mounting depths while omitting the recommended enclosure size is missing the point. For example, while the JL sub is deeper than the JBL, it actually requires a smaller box, so may be *more* suitable in applications where you have less space!
I'm sure that someone in the CAS team knows all this - they must have forgotten more about car audio than I'll ever know! Please keep putting out this kind of content, but people will take your word as gospel so maybe get one of the tech boys to review the script before filming?
Looking forward to the TW3 video - they *are* monsters!
You can post your own pedantic video. Show em how it’s done gomer.
@@Dingleberry1856 not sure what you're saying here. I'm not one of the biggest UK retailers of car audio putting out a video that a lot of people will take as gospel. CAS *have* the resources to provide 100% accurate advice, so they sort of should at the end of the day.
But thanks for your two sentences and the attempted insult. Never been called a 'gomer' before.
@@ShadowTD what fool takes RUclips as gospel? Do you think before speaking.
@@ShadowTD no insult, encouragement to do you.
Dear brother kindly advise me between pioneer or JL subwoofer .amp which iam using is pioneer 8704. Iam very much confused between the two
can you do a couple of rms tests and burps with these?
zero experience with any of thsese but i'd love to try the rockfords, always loved rockfords. I do have experience with the kicker cvt 12 and they were pretty decent aswell. any recommendations for a small box in a small car?
What amp would you remember for the TW3?
And, can you get any CT Sounds Mesos?
Can you invert a shallow sub? Lol the JL would look good inverted 4 12s inverted behind the seat in a single cablol
You can invert any speaker.
The grills on the jl tw's are removable
What would be the best 8” shallow sub
Phase linear Aliante is the King of sq in shallow mounted subwoofer
Tw3 please
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been searching for shallow subs for awhile. More on the higher end. I'm currently running 2 P3's and wanting to change them out. What's yr take on Hertz new shallow mps 250 s2. I was also considering the Jl tw-3 as well but instead of running 12's I wanna use 4 shallow 10's on this build.
Nice
Are they competitive with normal size woofers or not?
According to JL Audio, the TW3 has better output than their regular W3!
I'm not sure the JL which is 85db sensitivity will play louder than the JBL which has nearly double the sensitivity !
A review and slipped of advice. Bonus.
RUclipsrs are looking for partners for this Pioneer model. I can't find him anywhere. I mean a plastic rim with 6 bolts. Ts-D10D4- 10 inch
Thanks for any help
No audio test in a box? Weak
that JL is not quite shallow, there are true subwoofers having the same depth
For the sub, yes. But when you factor in air space for your enclosure, they are definitely shallow.
JL is 5db lower than Rockford...audible difference
You forgot one of the most often highly rated shallow subs out there.
PIONEER. 12" rated at 400 rms.
Most rated shallow I’ve found is the sundown SML @ 500 rms