For those that have dasli or are reconsidering rolling for her don't worry. Assuming your not in ZL chapters dasli is still one of the best units in the game. She carried me throughout all tower floors, sol, ul ect. For most players by the time you are in XL you probably would have other units that can easily take care of these surge reflect enemies. Although I am not in ZL yet there is a good chance that some of those stages she can still destroy. Every unit has their weaknesses and dasli's is very minor compared to others. Still highly recommend pulling for her if you have the chance! Though this is all my own opinion.
Imo I think Dasli still stays at the top bc of just how versatile she is. Bc her DPS is unchanged against enemies without surge reflect and she still remains a great crowd controller with good stats. So while her damage output against these enemies tanks, she'd still have really good usage on those stages as a unit to deal with the rest of the crowd. TL;DR Dasli keeps her crown, I just think the gap has shrunk by a lot.
They way it goes, PONOS is not trying to specifically nerf Dasli, but rather Surge unit in general. Other than Dasli, most of Surge units is busted on their own way. Ex: Master Uril, Jagandor, Doron, Lilin, Lucifer, etc. You can see how they implement it on the recent stages: 1. Naala enemy has Surge Immunity. It's made to avoid Doron's surge ability rather than to reduce DMG from Dasli. 2. First stage of Ururun chapter in ZL. Ururun and R.Ost is easy call for Jagandor. But now you need to think twice to use him becauce of Angel Otter's existence 3. If Relic John Lennon was a regular Relic enemy, he would succumb into Doron/IDI combo. But you can't do that because you will be punished with extreme Surge counter
It's kinda sad that this ability surely affected all surge units in general. It'd make them less useful now. Maybe PONOS got sick of people saying, "this new level is easy!" *lineup with most surge units :'(
You can just use a different unit for when there's an enemy with that ability, and use her in any other lvl, or if you're stubborn you can put surge immune meatshields, the dasli era isn't over, ponos is just asking you to use more units instead of alwaya the same ones (unless they spam surge reflector in every level from now on, we'll see
Despite Behemoths and Surge Counter existing I really don’t think Surge units are going anywhere. At worst, you just don’t bring Dasli to a Surge Counter stage. On the Ururun stage, Angel Otter also exists to make Jagando less useful against Ururun and the R. Ost that appears. You can still quite easily make Jagando work on the stage, even with Angel Otter out, but you’ll also have to step up your protection for Jagando too. Relic Johnny is designed more to counter Doron than Dasli. She already gets destroyed by his 550 max range. It’s also important to know that these enemies still take Surge damage, it’s not an immunity. Doron can still proc Freeze on Relic Johnny with the Surge. Long story short, Dasli is still broken like most units with Surge, it just has a way to backfire on you now and sometimes you can even ignore the Surge Counter and just run Surge anyways.
imagine they give dasli that exact same surge reflect ability. if she encountered and enemy with surge reflect, it would just look like they playing tennis with surge
Although I personally think that the new enemies with immunities and new abilities like surge reflector are cool in theory, what will happen instead (and kind of already happening) is that Dasli really gets affected very little because of how good she is, and instead hurts all the other cool units with wave/surge/etc. Eventually, they become more irrelevant, while Dasli will drop in value very little, further restricting multiple lineups if these enemies start getting spammed.
Kasli and Asukasli: * panic * Dasli: Calm girls, I don't think this could be worse Ponos: Now exists surge blocker ability Kasli, Dasli and Asukasli: AAAAAAAAAA
When I heard about the ability I thought that Surge damage and abilities was from the Surge user For example, Kasli has Surge Lv. 3 with 100% curse, so Angel Otta would reflect a Surge Lv. 3 with curse and Kasli damage
these new enemies are extremely late game tho, so i can see how dasli is still amazing outside of those, meaning phonoa is probably better in those stages, but still outclassed by dasli other times
Just dont use Kasli Variant in Surge Reflect Stage and you'll be fine They will always work as long as the counter enemy do not present in the stage, atleast that is what i think.
I’ll never stop, she’s been in every load out since I got her after beating into the future chapter 3, her and manic eraser have been the realest throughout the game
Dasli would probably find a way to return to the meta, like how jizo did for a bit, but tbh I hope it stays like that, I dispise dasli really badly, just because of how broken she is, and turns the difficulty of the game off imo, and she was kinda responsible for surge immune on a lot of endgame enemies, but that's just my opinion on her, wonder who will fill in her slot now?
At that point in the game, everyone would have other units anyways to counter Kasli's counters so imo it really doesnt change her effectiveness elsewhere. Plus I like her design so its a pluss for me.
Yeah. Endgame stages pretty much requires you to use specific strats & units. That's why generalists like amaterasu/gao/aphro/even mitama and dasli are slowly losing their value in the endgame.
Here's the thing. DKasli will never be unusable, even with enemies like this existing. Just don't bring her to those stages.... Also, it's not like thesewil be super common enemies. The Relic Jonnie seems like it's gonna be more of a 1-off enemy that rarely appears. Think of stuff like saint dober.
Yea, PONOS won't kill players with it. That's why it only appears on extra level (secret stage of Map Hunter 4). But we never know what happens in the future, PONOS might create spammable peons with this ability. It won't instantly kill cats, but it'll be really annoying just like Condemned Peng spam.
This is kind of what ponos did with mitama. It was broken so they added new units to counter it, but its still gonna remain usable and top tier likely, just with more weaknesses.
If you think about it, surge reflect also nerfs Doron who was very good in his own right. I still think Dasli will be top 10 Ubers simply because she has very few bad matchups compared to most other Ubers. For instance Phono can't hit metal and traitless where as Dasli can't hit metal
i mean curse is his biggest counter from what i can tell so far other than the very rare enemy that can outrange him, i haven't gotten to where the curse base is in UL yet but i assume thatd probably be enough to cripple him quite a bit.
He can easily stay away of the curse base with is range. Golem sunfish and loris are bigger counters. But Phonoa have very little counters overall. - ennemies that can do big damages at more than 600 range and hard to knockback/hard to reach with a steeping stone (like Luza, standing Nyandam, Hairujo). - ennemies that can curse for a long period of time at more than 600 range - strong traitless ennemies, full traitless stages in general - metal ennemies Even zombies aren't really a counter because Phonoa can stop a lot of burrowing and can get knockbacked and instantly retaliate if one reach him.
I got D Kasli before beat ItF Ch. 2 (Aku don't even exist). Literally my whole SoL campage has D Kasli When I realize that D Kasli won't work anymore was my first fight against Ahirujo (Gapra Lv. 4) and Hazuku (Jinfore Lv. 4). I last like 2 minutes against Ahirujo (my deck was dual legs, dual dragon, Mina, Bahamut, D Kasli and Ururun xD). Against Hazuku well... (I left it to reader interpretation xD)
ponos did not successfully nerf dasli, both gato and cactus cat (and other surge immune meatshields) can both just substitute erasers for counter surge stages
I don’t understand why PONOS refuses to nerf a unit instead of changing the whole game around them. This happened with courier(late game reds/red behemoths become backliners) and now with Dasli, who’s next?
I am tired of how many times dasli is getting bullied by the devs so I desided to remove her from my team. I know she is still very strong and I will use her on the old stages like the tower, but for something like the legend story 0 those new stages, I will not be using her.
Everything has its counters (even if the counter is awful at its job) and now dalsi has a counter Edit: does dalsi's curse cancel the surge reflector curse and kb ability (angel otta)
Are you asking if curse would remove the effect of the surge that get reflected back as well as the enemies attack abilities? If so you could probably test it on an aku enemy with a death surge, I’d imagine they are similar. Idk the answer tho lol
as long as you have surge immune units like monke or naala or kill the enemy with the counter surge before summoning her she will still work, and that will keep her at the top of the tier list
If we put surge reflector on a cat, and then brought it to a stage with surge reflector enemies, can we create the most destructive version of Tennis in battle cats?
(1:41) "PONOS was trying so hard to ner her" Me: No, they don't. Originally Dark Laser has Area attack but PONOS removed it since it was broken (for that unit in that time). Now instead of twicking units stats, they prefer to buff enemies instead, and that's NOT a solution.
About time. They made her wayyy too much broken to the point she was at top for three long years. Finally some change to the meta. TBH I just wish they nerfed Dasli alone since this means that the entire surge units got nerfed b/c of her, like Lucifer who was just a anti-aku unit that you probably wouldn't use in non-aku map. And what I hate about it is the fact that now surge ability as a talent is out of question now since it's actually a minus from now on in the latelate game meta.
I think the dasli/surge meta has been pretty much over since behemoths release, every other enemy got surge resistance. Maybe next time ponos will contemplate adding something as busted as surge and either revise it or nerf it instead of adding boring bullshit like surge reflect to counter act it. Ponos really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content now
I love how the future of this game is always ponos seeing how broken they can make a unit and then how well they can create a counter for them without directly nerfing them lol
The worst that's gonna happen to Dasli for now is she'll have to settle for being about the 2nd-3rd best Uber after Mitama/Phono instead of the absolute best.
Well Dasli is immune to surge, so surge reflector wont do her much harm. As for the meatshields, gato amigo is always an option. So i think the surge reflect doesnʼt nerf her as much as we would like. It does more harm to other surge units with no immunity, like uril. Dasli is still broken and i think Ponos will continue to try and make her less relevant
This would of been so much better, imo. By "nerfing" Dasli, Ponos is screwing over other units like Brainwashed legs and Uril. Why give us such an amazing ability when you are just going to pretty much take it away from us later down the line?
@@battlcats_player44 Not sure, but I believe Japanese gacha laws won't let Ponos nerf gacha units. The logic is: - You roll the gacha in order to get a specific character - You should get the character you rolled for - Nerfing the character people paid money for would be like if you intentionally reduced the quality of a product after someone bought it - Nerfing gacha characters is illegalized
Ponos really just said f**k it and made a behemoth Johnny that has a higher range then master A and more health then zero luza Rip Queen Dkasli it was fun while it lasted
Im surprised some people actually play the game legit,for someone who want to feel overpower like me ,I modified the game to get all the characters because I don't feel like spending time grinding for cat food
If PONOS tried to nerf Dasli they would honestly just lower her stats and curse ability instead of just creating some random bullshit like surge reflector
I get the connection between Surge Reflector and Aku's Aftermath Surge, but why the frick does the "soul" for Surge Reflect vaguely look like 0² from Kirb- [Edit: yeah, it kinda looks like Surge Base with its "wings" too...]
I still think she's the number 3 uber at worst. she sits around 2-3 for me, competing with balrog. phono i've decided is a bit better but her curse goes a long way. honestly cant see any other ubers contesting besides those as of right now
Surge retaliation isn’t even a factor in some cases like I used dasli dark phono cactus and talented harp amigo on kappy kwano and breezes through it even though I was making a million counter surges
Ponos doesn’t nerf units they just build stages and abilities that counter them (minimalist stage design for jizo, curse in uncanny legends for mitama, etc)
If PONOS continues to put out surge immune and reflector enemies than dasli gonna be no.2 behind phono Its crazy how much PONOS is trying to nerf her Actually what happening to dasli is the same way mitama when coming to UL was not best uber no more Just instead its now in ZL it’s Phono who might be No.1 with dasli right behind him PONOS seems to always changes that make the no 1 best cat no longer the best
The problem is, they didnt nerf Dasli, they nerfed Kasli by this too, even more than Dasli, because she doesnt have a srg-immun. Kasli is down top 2 of fests, and now you cant even use her (even though you didnt really wanted to, because Dasli is better in everything LOL). Also you cant use professor cat now too (its not too sad cause the best he can take is 3 hits but anyway).
Looks like Ponos hates us now. Even non-Dasli Havers. Including myself. Now Ponos is becoming an unfair company on making levels and enemies. With this disaster, it now makes enemies like R. Ost, Star Peng, Berserkory, and Elder Sloth a much more balanced enemy.
intsead of balancing dasli, adding surge counters just made the entire situation worse. any stage without surge counters: dasli anyways LOL any stage with surge counters: just use something else shrug this changed nothing more than basically banning surge units on certain stages
I mean, it's just 2 enemies, and Dasli was way too overused, so I guess it's okay, I can still use her in many more stages. Besides, if you get her late early/mid game, she just blows you up to late EZ PZ
Then why do you have Summerluga when you said relic Jhonny can kill Dark Kasli? If you used one ore relic shield or a random meatshield she would of survived that?
Nah, dasli still number 1. 2 enemies have an ability that counters her? That isn't nearly big enough for her to drop to number 2. She's bad on 2 stages, okay. Still great on the 1 thousand other stages. However, if surge reflector becomes more prevalent and starts appearing just everywhere, then yes, dasli could drop to the number 2 spot.
For those that have dasli or are reconsidering rolling for her don't worry. Assuming your not in ZL chapters dasli is still one of the best units in the game. She carried me throughout all tower floors, sol, ul ect. For most players by the time you are in XL you probably would have other units that can easily take care of these surge reflect enemies. Although I am not in ZL yet there is a good chance that some of those stages she can still destroy. Every unit has their weaknesses and dasli's is very minor compared to others. Still highly recommend pulling for her if you have the chance! Though this is all my own opinion.
De echo me sige ayudando en UL por lo que sies buena unidad
Yes the second best or arguably best Uber in the game is still worth rolling for
Man Dasli carried me in 1 - 3 crown SoL, UL, Advents, even in baron peng
@@thefiregamer9884 sí, estoy muy feliz de tener la unidad yo mismo
@@Andrew-pq3lj yup!
Imo I think Dasli still stays at the top bc of just how versatile she is. Bc her DPS is unchanged against enemies without surge reflect and she still remains a great crowd controller with good stats. So while her damage output against these enemies tanks, she'd still have really good usage on those stages as a unit to deal with the rest of the crowd. TL;DR Dasli keeps her crown, I just think the gap has shrunk by a lot.
Fax
They way it goes, PONOS is not trying to specifically nerf Dasli, but rather Surge unit in general. Other than Dasli, most of Surge units is busted on their own way. Ex: Master Uril, Jagandor, Doron, Lilin, Lucifer, etc. You can see how they implement it on the recent stages:
1. Naala enemy has Surge Immunity. It's made to avoid Doron's surge ability rather than to reduce DMG from Dasli.
2. First stage of Ururun chapter in ZL. Ururun and R.Ost is easy call for Jagandor. But now you need to think twice to use him becauce of Angel Otter's existence
3. If Relic John Lennon was a regular Relic enemy, he would succumb into Doron/IDI combo. But you can't do that because you will be punished with extreme Surge counter
It's kinda sad that this ability surely affected all surge units in general. It'd make them less useful now. Maybe PONOS got sick of people saying, "this new level is easy!"
*lineup with most surge units :'(
I like this community
Whenever the new stage / enemy has something to do with surge
People just assume it's anti-dasli
Doron is balanced around being a kamikaze rusher with a long ish cd, i feel like its unfair to kill units like that in collateral
You can just use a different unit for when there's an enemy with that ability, and use her in any other lvl, or if you're stubborn you can put surge immune meatshields, the dasli era isn't over, ponos is just asking you to use more units instead of alwaya the same ones (unless they spam surge reflector in every level from now on, we'll see
Despite Behemoths and Surge Counter existing I really don’t think Surge units are going anywhere. At worst, you just don’t bring Dasli to a Surge Counter stage. On the Ururun stage, Angel Otter also exists to make Jagando less useful against Ururun and the R. Ost that appears. You can still quite easily make Jagando work on the stage, even with Angel Otter out, but you’ll also have to step up your protection for Jagando too. Relic Johnny is designed more to counter Doron than Dasli. She already gets destroyed by his 550 max range. It’s also important to know that these enemies still take Surge damage, it’s not an immunity. Doron can still proc Freeze on Relic Johnny with the Surge.
Long story short, Dasli is still broken like most units with Surge, it just has a way to backfire on you now and sometimes you can even ignore the Surge Counter and just run Surge anyways.
I hope they make a wave reflector ability someday
And that both wave and surge reflector comes to cat units too
I just think that’d be pretty funny
wave reflect on enemy side i mean
just imagine surge ping-pong back and forth lmao
it'd be nice for a metal cat TF
@@ivan0912 your comment made me laugh hard lol
@@Anwar04lol
imagine they give dasli that exact same surge reflect ability. if she encountered and enemy with surge reflect, it would just look like they playing tennis with surge
Although I personally think that the new enemies with immunities and new abilities like surge reflector are cool in theory, what will happen instead (and kind of already happening) is that Dasli really gets affected very little because of how good she is, and instead hurts all the other cool units with wave/surge/etc. Eventually, they become more irrelevant, while Dasli will drop in value very little, further restricting multiple lineups if these enemies start getting spammed.
Kasli and Asukasli: * panic *
Dasli: Calm girls, I don't think this could be worse
Ponos: Now exists surge blocker ability
Kasli, Dasli and Asukasli: AAAAAAAAAA
When I heard about the ability I thought that Surge damage and abilities was from the Surge user
For example, Kasli has Surge Lv. 3 with 100% curse, so Angel Otta would reflect a Surge Lv. 3 with curse and Kasli damage
Damn, cant wait for phonoa to recieve the same treatment in 3 years and go alongside the pile of heavily nerfed ubers like dasli mitama and jizo
these new enemies are extremely late game tho, so i can see how dasli is still amazing outside of those, meaning phonoa is probably better in those stages, but still outclassed by dasli other times
Just dont use Kasli Variant in Surge Reflect Stage and you'll be fine
They will always work as long as the counter enemy do not present in the stage, atleast that is what i think.
Knowing PONOS' rule, they'd probably create more surge reflector enemies, the spammable one.
@@Anwar04
Surge Reflector Peons
@@Anwar04 Welp, surely its only for late game (i guess), and i believe she still in top uber of how broken she is, just dont use her in those stage.
@@Anwar04 but maybe now she will only stay at top 5 uber
@@supercreeper4539 top 3 or 2 maybe?
I’ll never stop, she’s been in every load out since I got her after beating into the future chapter 3, her and manic eraser have been the realest throughout the game
Dasli would probably find a way to return to the meta, like how jizo did for a bit, but tbh I hope it stays like that, I dispise dasli really badly, just because of how broken she is, and turns the difficulty of the game off imo, and she was kinda responsible for surge immune on a lot of endgame enemies, but that's just my opinion on her, wonder who will fill in her slot now?
Yea, PONOS has been trying so hard to counter Dasli which affected all players in general :'(
phono (excluding traitless combat)
True. Maybe if uber/epic fests ever get true forms, she may become THE tier zero unit
again, unless she gets the "Aphrodite" treatment.
@Anwar 04 yeah, like players who use Brainwashed legs and Uril got screwed over. It's so unfair for everyone.
@@battlcats_player44 don't remind me... i saw how aphrodite has all trait damage and now is only alien damage...
At that point in the game, everyone would have other units anyways to counter Kasli's counters so imo it really doesnt change her effectiveness elsewhere.
Plus I like her design so its a pluss for me.
Yeah. Endgame stages pretty much requires you to use specific strats & units. That's why generalists like amaterasu/gao/aphro/even mitama and dasli are slowly losing their value in the endgame.
You can still use dasli throughought the entire sol and ul and all stages before this update so its not that bad as of now
Here's the thing. DKasli will never be unusable, even with enemies like this existing. Just don't bring her to those stages.... Also, it's not like thesewil be super common enemies. The Relic Jonnie seems like it's gonna be more of a 1-off enemy that rarely appears. Think of stuff like saint dober.
Ponos probably add a doge or snache that has the ability that will appear in like every other stage.
Yea, PONOS won't kill players with it. That's why it only appears on extra level (secret stage of Map Hunter 4). But we never know what happens in the future, PONOS might create spammable peons with this ability. It won't instantly kill cats, but it'll be really annoying just like Condemned Peng spam.
This is kind of what ponos did with mitama. It was broken so they added new units to counter it, but its still gonna remain usable and top tier likely, just with more weaknesses.
While the retaliation might kill your meatshields, just remember, jiangshi, cameraman and talented cyborg exists🗿🗿.
If you think about it, surge reflect also nerfs Doron who was very good in his own right. I still think Dasli will be top 10 Ubers simply because she has very few bad matchups compared to most other Ubers. For instance Phono can't hit metal and traitless where as Dasli can't hit metal
Damn,only 3 years?!
Wait with this Mitama Might be coming back for the crown or maybe Ponoa. This is going to be interesting.
I think Mitama needs surge and curse immune for that.
balrog secretly going on the way of being the best uber:
True form
Phonoa is already considering better than mitama considering he is close to dasli even not considering surge immune and surge reflecting enemies
I think an easy way to counter surge reflection is talented gato amigo it has surge Immune so dasli won’t be just standing there alone with no defense
I wonder if phono will eventually receive similar treatment. Maybe they’ll start giving more enemies omnistrike or piercing ld like hazuku
Probably not
i mean curse is his biggest counter from what i can tell so far other than the very rare enemy that can outrange him, i haven't gotten to where the curse base is in UL yet but i assume thatd probably be enough to cripple him quite a bit.
He can easily stay away of the curse base with is range.
Golem sunfish and loris are bigger counters.
But Phonoa have very little counters overall.
- ennemies that can do big damages at more than 600 range and hard to knockback/hard to reach with a steeping stone (like Luza, standing Nyandam, Hairujo).
- ennemies that can curse for a long period of time at more than 600 range
- strong traitless ennemies, full traitless stages in general
- metal ennemies
Even zombies aren't really a counter because Phonoa can stop a lot of burrowing and can get knockbacked and instantly retaliate if one reach him.
I got D Kasli before beat ItF Ch. 2 (Aku don't even exist). Literally my whole SoL campage has D Kasli
When I realize that D Kasli won't work anymore was my first fight against Ahirujo (Gapra Lv. 4) and Hazuku (Jinfore Lv. 4). I last like 2 minutes against Ahirujo (my deck was dual legs, dual dragon, Mina, Bahamut, D Kasli and Ururun xD). Against Hazuku well... (I left it to reader interpretation xD)
ponos did not successfully nerf dasli, both gato and cactus cat (and other surge immune meatshields) can both just substitute erasers for counter surge stages
I don’t understand why PONOS refuses to nerf a unit instead of changing the whole game around them. This happened with courier(late game reds/red behemoths become backliners) and now with Dasli, who’s next?
New challenges are more fun than being unable to beat stages you have beaten before.
I am tired of how many times dasli is getting bullied by the devs so I desided to remove her from my team.
I know she is still very strong and I will use her on the old stages like the tower, but for something like the legend story 0 those new stages, I will not be using her.
Looks like gato amigo about to be moved up to S teir Uber
Everything has its counters (even if the counter is awful at its job) and now dalsi has a counter
Edit: does dalsi's curse cancel the surge reflector curse and kb ability (angel otta)
Yes, she removes their abilities.
Good to know
Angel Otta's Surge Reflector never cursed to begin with.
@@ChaoticJesterdidn't anwar04 say it also reflects the abilities from the surge?
Edit 5:12
Are you asking if curse would remove the effect of the surge that get reflected back as well as the enemies attack abilities? If so you could probably test it on an aku enemy with a death surge, I’d imagine they are similar. Idk the answer tho lol
as long as you have surge immune units like monke or naala or kill the enemy with the counter surge before summoning her she will still work, and that will keep her at the top of the tier list
Ponos: implemented a lot of new surge units
Also Ponos: surge reflect
If we put surge reflector on a cat, and then brought it to a stage with surge reflector enemies, can we create the most destructive version of Tennis in battle cats?
Unfortunately no
With the advent of Phantasmal Nobunaga, counter surges do *not* trigger another counter surge
(1:41) "PONOS was trying so hard to ner her"
Me: No, they don't. Originally Dark Laser has Area attack but PONOS removed it since it was broken (for that unit in that time). Now instead of twicking units stats, they prefer to buff enemies instead, and that's NOT a solution.
i rolled her as my first uber, i didn’t like her at first but then i realized how much of a beast she is, im so glad i didn’t trade it for EXP
About time. They made her wayyy too much broken to the point she was at top for three long years.
Finally some change to the meta. TBH I just wish they nerfed Dasli alone since this means that the entire surge units got nerfed b/c of her,
like Lucifer who was just a anti-aku unit that you probably wouldn't use in non-aku map. And what I hate about it is the fact that now surge ability
as a talent is out of question now since it's actually a minus from now on in the latelate game meta.
I think the dasli/surge meta has been pretty much over since behemoths release, every other enemy got surge resistance. Maybe next time ponos will contemplate adding something as busted as surge and either revise it or nerf it instead of adding boring bullshit like surge reflect to counter act it. Ponos really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content now
When Dasli bad at 1% of all battle cats stage because the enemies are countering her
99% of player:oh no Dasli is bad and out of meta !?!?
Well this kills my dasli lufalan strat with meat shields and I just got dasli to lel 60 .Tears are shed on this day sob .
surge reflector is basicly shooting yourself in the foot unless you plan on bringing surge imune units
I love how the future of this game is always ponos seeing how broken they can make a unit and then how well they can create a counter for them without directly nerfing them lol
Time to bring the wave Era back, since they don't even think of it anymore
Also cause there is no wake reflector
The worst that's gonna happen to Dasli for now is she'll have to settle for being about the 2nd-3rd best Uber after Mitama/Phono instead of the absolute best.
I kinda want mitama to be better again
Good that is have Kasli and Phonoa lvl 60 so no problem.
Well Dasli is immune to surge, so surge reflector wont do her much harm. As for the meatshields, gato amigo is always an option. So i think the surge reflect doesnʼt nerf her as much as we would like. It does more harm to other surge units with no immunity, like uril. Dasli is still broken and i think Ponos will continue to try and make her less relevant
Are you sure Gato can tank peons well enough?
gato is pretty slow and fragile
@@Anwar04 maybe not on his own but im sure he can help
when phonos try to nerf dasli, whitout nerf her like literaly any other game company; change stats like normal people.
This would of been so much better, imo. By "nerfing" Dasli, Ponos is screwing over other units like Brainwashed legs and Uril. Why give us such an amazing ability when you are just going to pretty much take it away from us later down the line?
@@battlcats_player44 Not sure, but I believe Japanese gacha laws won't let Ponos nerf gacha units.
The logic is:
- You roll the gacha in order to get a specific character
- You should get the character you rolled for
- Nerfing the character people paid money for would be like if you intentionally reduced the quality of a product after someone bought it
- Nerfing gacha characters is illegalized
Ponos really just said f**k it and made a behemoth Johnny that has a higher range then master A and more health then zero luza
Rip Queen Dkasli it was fun while it lasted
Wait it has MORE HEALTH THAT LUZA????
I hate it already… I thought master a was bad but oh damn ponos didn’t think so
Just can’t wait till these stages get hit with a gimmicky strat
Unrelated, but I remember drawing on Uberfest and got Mitama. I’m still angry as I wanted Kasa Jizo >:(
Im surprised some people actually play the game legit,for someone who want to feel overpower like me ,I modified the game to get all the characters because I don't feel like spending time grinding for cat food
thats very boring
now they just need a balrog reflect and Ponos is good to go.
DARK KASLI THE BEST UBER BRO
Ponos really making every new enemy a dasli counter
Finally! Ive been longing for dasli's downfall for so fucking long!! Im so glad she will finally be going down
Nothing can last forever.
finally, FINALLY.
Ponos be like:
Nerf dasli by lowering her stats❌
Nerf dasli by making new enemies immune to surge✅
If PONOS tried to nerf Dasli they would honestly just lower her stats and curse ability instead of just creating some random bullshit like surge reflector
wait till they found out about the other 9 ubers in the top 10
I garuntee people will find a way to make Dasli work against countersurge enemies
what level was your dasli here?
50
If the Surge Reflector is going to add units too, imo, Gladios would be one of the units.
I get the connection between Surge Reflector and Aku's Aftermath Surge, but why the frick does the "soul" for Surge Reflect vaguely look like 0² from Kirb-
[Edit: yeah, it kinda looks like Surge Base with its "wings" too...]
Dasli still carries, she's still the best uber in the game
I still think she's the number 3 uber at worst. she sits around 2-3 for me, competing with balrog. phono i've decided is a bit better but her curse goes a long way. honestly cant see any other ubers contesting besides those as of right now
Finally! Another curse lover!
Fun fact: Relic Johnny official name is Lusion
The counter design look like a creature from cartoon wars
Surge retaliation isn’t even a factor in some cases like I used dasli dark phono cactus and talented harp amigo on kappy kwano and breezes through it even though I was making a million counter surges
Looks like the end of a good 3 year run to me.
Mitama and Kasa Jizo seeing Dasli getting nerf patch after patch:
-First time??
Ponos doesn’t nerf units they just build stages and abilities that counter them (minimalist stage design for jizo, curse in uncanny legends for mitama, etc)
I don't think this is true, but I wish it was
this is really funny but she had it coming, also phonoa better than dark phono now???
ppl using 1 million doller to pump dasli to lv 130 after watching this video:
Now they need to add Cat units that had surge reflecter ability
It's only fair
Good thing that i have ushi and luza to destroy these enemies before they could mess with my kasli duo
Ushi go brrrrrr
That's sad...
Yeah, I think Phono will be the best.
I could see it coming when they made like ever behemoth surge immune
If PONOS continues to put out surge immune and reflector enemies than dasli gonna be no.2 behind phono
Its crazy how much PONOS is trying to nerf her
Actually what happening to dasli is the same way mitama when coming to UL was not best uber no more
Just instead its now in ZL it’s Phono who might be No.1 with dasli right behind him
PONOS seems to always changes that make the no 1 best cat no longer the best
The problem is, they didnt nerf Dasli, they nerfed Kasli by this too, even more than Dasli, because she doesnt have a srg-immun. Kasli is down top 2 of fests, and now you cant even use her (even though you didnt really wanted to, because Dasli is better in everything LOL). Also you cant use professor cat now too (its not too sad cause the best he can take is 3 hits but anyway).
Looks like Ponos hates us now. Even non-Dasli Havers. Including myself. Now Ponos is becoming an unfair company on making levels and enemies. With this disaster, it now makes enemies like R. Ost, Star Peng, Berserkory, and Elder Sloth a much more balanced enemy.
Why are you mad that they are more valences enemies
Balanced*
Am i hearing Seer of The Night AND One's Ending, Another's Beginning?
YES FINALLY WOOO HOOO🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
intsead of balancing dasli, adding surge counters just made the entire situation worse.
any stage without surge counters: dasli anyways LOL
any stage with surge counters: just use something else shrug
this changed nothing more than basically banning surge units on certain stages
IT'S TIME FOR ENEMIES TO BEING BALROGED (I don't have him either)
Dasli has surge immunity
I have dasli and I still want her to get a nerf.
anyone tried playing the music on 2x speed?
I’d just like any of fest Ubers really
I mean, it's just 2 enemies, and Dasli was way too overused, so I guess it's okay, I can still use her in many more stages. Besides, if you get her late early/mid game, she just blows you up to late EZ PZ
*Curse making enemies less annoying* *Papaluga being the worst nekoluga*
Beat a stage with any surge reflector enemy with only Dasli and surge immune cats.
Then why do you have Summerluga when you said relic Jhonny can kill Dark Kasli? If you used one ore relic shield or a random meatshield she would of survived that?
Ive had dasli for almost a year but I think I've only used her like 4 times, aside from 3 crown sol
Does enemies with surge reflect still take dmg from surges or they're aurge immune too?
They aren't immune to surge since they count how many surge they got before sending it back to you.
We wait for dasli TF
*My ass laughing having rolled phono*
Oh no! Now I can only use Dasli in *checks notes* 95% of the game! Oh well... (equips Phonos and Mitama)
She died of a stroke 💔
Nah, dasli still number 1. 2 enemies have an ability that counters her? That isn't nearly big enough for her to drop to number 2. She's bad on 2 stages, okay. Still great on the 1 thousand other stages. However, if surge reflector becomes more prevalent and starts appearing just everywhere, then yes, dasli could drop to the number 2 spot.
They cant let the face of battle cat die