How To Align The Hairspring to set the watch in beat. Watch repair techniques
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2014
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Following my previous two videos regarding hairspring manipulation this video shows my method of re-aligning the hairspring on the balance wheel so that the watch will be in beat.
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Well, nobody said it was going to be east, did they? What’s amazing is to see that Mark was doing this kind of videos 7-8 years ago! You’re a pioneer and so precise on your work, a pleasure to watch!
This is so helpful thank you so much. A few months ago I picked up fixing mechanical pocket watches as a hobby and absolutely love it. I recently purchased 36 different pocket watches mostly needing small repairs and I had no idea how to replace a balance wheel until now. I've all the parts needed to fix all the pocket watches I'm literally just learning now how to replace the balance wheel and reattach the hands. These uploads help me so much I can't thank you enough. 👍🏻
As fairly new to the hobby, I've tired to do the small adjustments shown in the video here but even the slightest slip can damage the hairspring. Someday I might gain a smidgen of skill displayed here to do it this way but for now I found it easier, and less stressful, to simply remove the balance wheel from the balance cock and make the adjustment with a clear field of view and direct access to the collet slot. With the balance pivot thru a hole in a staking block and the wheel sitting flush on top of the block, all that's needed is to stick the screwdriver in the collet slot and then rotate the balance wheel like you're adjusting a knob.
Absolutely brilliant. I have taken the full 3 courses and I'm half way through course 2. I have the confidence now to replace a balance assembly on a Cupillard 233 movement which has not worked for 20 years due to a broken balance staff. Many thanks Mark. I'm really enjoying my retirement hobby.
This video is one the most interesting and useful I've ever seen! Very well done!
Absolutely brilliant! The work, the filming, the audio & commentary quality, all first rate. Well done!
I dont need to do that, on my watch, I have an adjuster.
You Know, I have been fixing watches and clocks for living in the past 20 years, but I still have enjoyed your videos good Job.
Love your channel Mark, and thanks for your generosity in making your expertise freely available.
Wonderfully fine work.
Thanks for the upload.
I, am a newbie on the street and have just replace a balance staff on a junk Waltham watch, I would never have done it without your video as I took the hairspring of without checking were it was suppose to be I did take some pictures before I removed it but it didn’t seam to work in that position.
This video saved the day as I went by your instructions, Note I,am not saying it’s running perfect but at least its running and I, am a happy chapie, I used a jewelling tool made myself some bits to fit the tool also a staking tool too push the friction staff in.
What a truly brilliant engineer !
An excellent explanation of this procedure. Many thanks!!!
this video was very useful, especially the last part of adjusting the collet while on the balance tac. I do a lot of pocket watches and have a pile I need to regulate that are currently repaired.
Great illustration, I know it must be difficult with the camera etc.You did a fine job lad. thanks for posting.
Very helpful procedure shown here. Many thanks! Great Videos!!!!
Expert: someone who makes the difficult look easy!
Great videos !
Especially for a watchmaker student like me😃
Dear Mark, Thanks a million for your lovely tutorial videos. You are doing an amazing job to create passionate watchmakers to the planet. Your hard work to bring this up is highly appreciated. BTW, could you pls show us how to remove and re-install a complete balance wheel to the balance bridge. e.g. ETA 7750 which has the sliding lock on the mobile stud.Awaiting to see this soon from you.
Thank you. You are the BEST Teacher. I want to take you course 👍🏼
Thankyou. You're a godsend.
wow!!very interesting technique!!thank you mark
Thanks so much, I will go take my watch hair spring out and put it in the right way again this time.
Thank you, I just fixed mine! So satisfying.
What a great video Mark. Thank you 🙏
Do you have a video on repairing a 1 jewel unadjusted balance spring where it has snapped at the stud into the balance cock, i have a d320 that this has happened on so was looking to see if it could be repaired
Hello and nice video!There is a tool with name bergeon 4852 .Is it posimple with this tool to turn the roller for a little?Just i see a picture of the tool in a site and maybe it can !!On the other hand i dont know if it is correct to turn the roller!!Thank you
Thank you. Brilliant instruction.
EXCELLENT VIDEO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.
Thank you so much. Great explanation.
Do your accept watches for repair from USA? I had an omega cal 503 totally restored . Been back 4 times, amplitude is 150, beat error 1.6, rate varies too much. I think it should get a new spring and balance which I think is a 500-1327 available, but well past my ability
Nice video, really well explained.. thx
Thanks this helped me out big time 👍🏽
I am Ranjit Kumar Saha a watchmaker from Bangladesh. I am much pleased with your demonstration. I also used to make hairspring with different strengths for other watchmakers before 1970. I had assorted hairspring, collets and stud of different sizes.
Recently I was left in a awkward position that the hairspring of a Lemania chronograph movement in Omega, cal 863 badly damaged .
So may I request you to kindly arrange a complete balance for the same and I will pay for it. I look forward to hearing you with great interest.
Thanking you
Where might one submit a video for repair advise? Thanks
Thanks for the video
THANK YOU THIS WAS A HELP
I have a Lucien piccard circa 101 automatic and there is an adjustment on the pallet for this so it's alot easier to get it in beat then you can move the regulator lever separately like you would to speed up or slow down.
Awesome vid!
Thanks this helped me out
Which seiko movement Hairspring is used in Seiko Bellmatic?
do you have any info on cylinder pivots?
Question Sir, is the distance needed for the correction You see relative to the center of the banking pins going to be the amount One turns the collet? For instance, 2/32 change in distance equals 2/32 rotation of collet? ThankYou.
this just saved me; repositioning the college worked perfectly.
Dont need this I have an adjuster.
very well done
merci beaucoup from france.
Would there be any issue with marking the positions with a sharpie marker that can be easily removed while cleaning? seems like a time saver.
At 2:54 you push the hairspring back onto the balance staff with no support for the bottom of the staff. I was servicing a watch and was going to do the same and then I realize that I'm dealing with my type of luck and was afraid that I would end up pushing the staff out of the balance wheel. Do you think I'm being too cautious? Thanks. -Norm
Very Good Sir
Good Morning!
Excellent video. Have a question about your video, if the hair spring moves freely but the escape wheel does not move does that mean the hair spring jewel is not set into the pallet folk?
I have a bunch of watches that this has happened to. I hope you understand what i mean. hair spring turns freely but no movement of the escape wheel?
Thank you
Bruno
Escapment wheel might be out of place.
Hello master watchmaker
Please teach how to replace a broken pallet fork pivot.
especially very thin or short pivots such as Omega 565 or Omega 1010 or shorter, thinner and more delicate.
Thank you for all the very professional and excellent videos❤
thank you for your post
You are welcome Phi - thanks for watching.
Thanks!
Having hard time to align jewel into pallet folk....and ideas to get this done?
At about :30 you refer to the impulse jewel being in the wrong position but I don't know what specifically to look at.
I wish you had placed an arrow somehow. This would have helpd me follow along. I was confused therefore throughout.
Sir, kindly help me giving demo for alignment of balance staff for French carrige clock. 'am getting trouble to adjust it as fine as you can do but after my repeated adjustment it runs only 5 or 6 minutes n stopped.
Sir, I want to take a course for repair all kind of automatic watches. except I know everything about quartz watches so please can u make vedio how to join, procedure??
Thank you very much for this informative video. It looks like you have helped over 100,000 of us fix our watches!!! Cheers.
Theres huge a huge difference between, see a video here and ...a repair.
A repair means, 3 years is a school of horology learning MECHANICS, 5 years practising, I have seen work of professionals, and work made by some curious guys,
the difference is: a new watch against
a piggy job, where watch is just hoping to die again.
As a matter of fact some still running but they are broken,, i have many examples here...they behave like crazy machines, and even so they keep some time, yahah but THEY ARE FUKEN BROKEN:!
its good everybody learn this, they can keep their watches, and know when there is a problem, , but, if you want a "brand new watch" its time to visit a pro.
Hi Mark,
Just wondering if you can put some more of the RUclips videos on the WRT site.
These videos ARE a watch repair course in and of themselves and must take a lot of your time to organize. Thank you for your interest in sharing your vast knowledge.
Dave
Question from a newbie: don't some balances have an adjustment lever that can set beat error without removing the balance spring?
As an aside, the balance seems to be running at the same rate as my 2824 and Omega 1012 movements. Does anyone know whether the rates have been altered for ETA 2878 movements over the years?
i dont know that, i dont memorize rates or even movemnts....
the thing is if its working acptable, dont touch
Ah.. this video answers my question..Thanks
No problem - you are welcome
I have problems with omega call no 1151
Brill as always mark their is not many hair spring videos on you tube especially in English keep up the fantastic videos i cant wait until your next one. PS vintage Sekonda pocket watch. why do they glue the roller table and jewel on to the staff is their any way to remove it with out braking it best regards ady
Hi Ady - nice to hear from you again. Yes, hairspring work was highly requested so I bowed to the pressure lol :D
Not sure about the Sekonda i'm afraid - been many many moons since I have dealt with one but it seems to me that heating it up could help. But not so much heat to temper the steel obviously ;)
Thanks
Mark. There is a round tool with a lever on it cullet tool. How do you use this. Tool
This looks easy in the video, but this is pain in the ass.
My balance wheel wobbles. The watch goes at a certain angle but stops if I put it down flat. Its a Smith &co charing cross. No way Im taking it to bits though! The wheel also has a thin gap. Is this damage or a deliberate gap?
@@cuchidesoto2686 thanks!
I have a Cimeqa watch, the hair spring isn't attached to the balance wheel. And I can't wind the watch, in short need help.
nice done
Thanks todoran
Hello mark.
Pls help me in my seiko 6309-7209.my watch is late 9mins in 2 days.pls show me how to adjust the balance wheel of it.thank you so much.
first check the spring isn't sticking to itself
Replaced a complete balance wheel with hairspring to an ETA 2878 but regardless of positional changes, it is gaining 6hrs per 24hrs at best!
Hairspring is new and not magnetised, or overcoiled etc - very odd!!!
I am beginning to wonder whether this movement is an old copy, as it originated from Thailand or India. Any ideas as to why the holding studs are way above the spring height when fitted, as the old one was the same hence the need to change?
From india, may have parts that dont match they are from other watch.... but take it to the doctor, a good watchmaker, will solve it easly.
if you thinks about copies and nananan nana na na... well dude you dont nothing about watches and i dont advise you even open them.
have you ever tried all positons??
Seems to me based on your lesson, right after cleaning the parts you should install the balance when nothing else is in the way so as to be able to see the impulse jewel alignment.
I am kind of reluctant.... Shouldn’t, the regulator be in the center position before measuring the hair spring position between the pins?
In the particular movement shown, it does not matter. The balance cock has a fixed hair spring stud mount, thus only the hairspring and its orientation on the balance staff influence alignment. The regulator only adjusts how much of the spring is participating in the oscillation, not its end point locations.
If it will not be resting between those pins, what problem it causes?
The time it takes for the roller jewel to return to center from one side should equal the time it takes from the other side when the hairspring is springing. If it doesn't then you have a beat error. Beat error isn't the end of the world but it can cause problems if coupled with other issues like low amplitude.
I noticed the regulator was all the way to one side… is that the starting point?😊
Yes it requires magnification and real skill to adjust exactly between the two banking pins.
is this the cure for an overbanking watch ???
This is going to take some time. But im beginning to grasp the idia.
Yes but why between two banking pins??...Do you mean in line with pallet fork centre jewel???..and Why Does the Pallet Fork have one end of Fork longer than the Other??
MERCIS 🗑
cant you just rotate the safety roller in beat??
I hate balance work . I am about to give it up if serious. I am 77 now. Last one I fixed was an old Omega Constellation. PHEW !!
Mark, are you an engineer, so am I; but Electrical not Mechanical.
cant even look at a hairspring without completely Fing it up.
Why take the hairspring off,why not just move the collet
lol
esperto
watch repair from egg nest in the tree
Don't try this at home 😅
as whole what are u doing?