With all the aforementioned elements of setting up this maneuver, the most operative statement was make sure the winds remain in the same as forecasted. Now if the winds aloft are too high or shifting it will be impossible to maintain that pylon thru out the whole 270 degrees around each pylon without getting dangerously close to the ground. You are correct that the set up is the most important.
You forgot to mention that you need to add the MSL altitude of the ground to the AGL of your pivotal altitude to get your correct MSL for the maneuver.
If point goes ahead and you pitch down, speed increases , and pivotal altitude increases with speed increase, right ? So why is pivotal altitude decreasing as speed increases ? Thanks
If the point is ahead, pivotal altitude has decreased. By pitching down we are not only decreasing our own altitude to meet pivotal, we are increasing groundspeed which causes pivotal altitude to "rise up" and meet us in the middle. Make sense?
You say in the lesson to always keep the wing tip on the point, don’t shallow out so you can’t see it. My instructor tells e to keep the circles concentric so I have to shallow out for crosswind correction thus causing the point to drop below the wing tip. Can you please let me know what is the correct way to do this maneuver?
The circles are not concentric nor are they perfectly round. Wingtip stays "attached" to the point. Turns about a point and eights on pylons are two very different things...sounds like some of the turns about a point stuff is bleeding over....
what my instructor teaches is to fly perpendicular to the wind, fly past something and start a timer for 20-25 sec, and at the end of the timer, whatever your wingtip falls on is your second pylon. then fly a traffic pattern (if wind on your left) and start the 45 just after making the "base" turn. it's slightly more complex if the wind is on your right when you do this.
Dont Pull Up when overshooting the align on GRM flyovers, base to final turns, Box Canyon turns and any over 90 degree turns. This habit of PULLING UP ELEVATOR on a tailwind turn have killed thousands of good pilots that learned this pilot error way. i suggest you delete this bad methods and instead do Crosswind Road Flyovers. Pick a flyover spot on a crosswind road at say 800 agl , Do turnarounds, then do turnbacks to flyover again, and again. That maneuver teaches not to do this pull ups and getting used to do the dangerous if done wrong way Low Altitude Maneuvering. Dumb and dangerous to do low turns the wrong way. Low stalls are the main cause of crashes in USa. it is because They had BS Low Alt Maneuvering GRM.
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reviewing for my CFI checkride in a week! thanks for the helpful and well made video, as always! 😄
Good luck!! Let us know how it goes!
Looks like Venice Beach , FL! Those runways and taxiways
Good eye that’s where he is based out of besides alaska
With all the aforementioned elements of setting up this maneuver, the most operative statement was make sure the winds remain in the same as forecasted.
Now if the winds aloft are too high or shifting it will be impossible to maintain that pylon thru out the whole 270 degrees around each pylon without getting dangerously close to the ground.
You are correct that the set up is the most important.
you don't "vary your bank" in this maneuver.....that destroys the whole purpose of doing it to begin with
I know this is a few years old. Could you demonstrate your technique with a high wing?
Great explanation.
You forgot to mention that you need to add the MSL altitude of the ground to the AGL of your pivotal altitude to get your correct MSL for the maneuver.
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Nice explanation on how to conduct the maneuver,
Don’t you add ground level plus pivotal altitude. So if your airport you were at was 600 MSL, you would add the pivotal altitude
Great video man
If point goes ahead and you pitch down, speed increases , and pivotal altitude increases with speed increase, right ? So why is pivotal altitude decreasing as speed increases ? Thanks
If the point is ahead, pivotal altitude has decreased. By pitching down we are not only decreasing our own altitude to meet pivotal, we are increasing groundspeed which causes pivotal altitude to "rise up" and meet us in the middle. Make sense?
You say in the lesson to always keep the wing tip on the point, don’t shallow out so you can’t see it. My instructor tells e to keep the circles concentric so I have to shallow out for crosswind correction thus causing the point to drop below the wing tip. Can you please let me know what is the correct way to do this maneuver?
The circles are not concentric nor are they perfectly round. Wingtip stays "attached" to the point. Turns about a point and eights on pylons are two very different things...sounds like some of the turns about a point stuff is bleeding over....
Amazing graphics is that fsx ?or p3D?
Great video,What’s the software you used in video?
Thanks for great video... can you please tell me whats pc specs do you have? Great graphics
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I know this video is a bit old, im having trouble finding good pylons to use, any suggestions? (im south of DFW so alot of just woods and fields)
what my instructor teaches is to fly perpendicular to the wind, fly past something and start a timer for 20-25 sec, and at the end of the timer, whatever your wingtip falls on is your second pylon. then fly a traffic pattern (if wind on your left) and start the 45 just after making the "base" turn. it's slightly more complex if the wind is on your right when you do this.
Could someone please describe a real-world application for this maneuver?
photography, possibly survey, circling, overall it teaches a lot of aircraft mastery and coordination.
There isnt one
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Thanks Jon, for the lesson. I don't believe the airplane flying handbook gives any reference to a 45 degree entry. Just "an angle"
mackey migel its the acs.
@@epicjourney4324 Negative, just took my commercial and I read the ACS too many times to know it wasnt in there at all
Dont Pull Up when overshooting the align on GRM flyovers, base to final turns, Box Canyon turns and any over 90 degree turns. This habit of PULLING UP ELEVATOR on a tailwind turn have killed thousands of good pilots that learned this pilot error way.
i suggest you delete this bad methods and instead do Crosswind Road Flyovers. Pick a flyover spot on a crosswind road at say 800 agl , Do turnarounds, then do turnbacks to flyover again, and again. That maneuver teaches not to do this pull ups and getting used to do the dangerous if done wrong way Low Altitude Maneuvering. Dumb and dangerous to do low turns the wrong way. Low stalls are the main cause of crashes in USa. it is because They had BS Low Alt Maneuvering GRM.