Inside the Endless Warzone Pro vs. Call of Duty Pro Debate

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
  • The Call of Duty League pro vs. Warzone pro debate has been going on for a while now and resurfaces every couple of months. In this video, I explain each side of the debate and why it is a big topic in the COD community.
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    0:00 Warzone vs CDL Pros
    1:24 The Origin of Warzone vs. CDL
    3:16 For Warzone Pros
    5:47 For the COD League Pros
    7:35 Debate Settled?
    9:14 Conclusion
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  • @schuylersnipez
    @schuylersnipez 2 месяца назад +66

    Scump won that solo warzone tourney with no cheese riot shield either. Most of the warzone “pros” ran shields and still lost CDL is way more difficult

    • @hangtime104
      @hangtime104 2 месяца назад +8

      It was a solo yolo, scump got slammed all day in the actual tournament. The solo was just a throw in game at the end of the day filled with content creators who don’t even play warzone competitively 😂 that’s like celebrating winning a three point contest against fans after getting last place in the nba playoffs

    • @LebrunQueaf
      @LebrunQueaf 2 месяца назад +13

      @@hangtime104he won $100,000. That wasn’t just a random solo game at the end of the day😂. Keep coping buddy, your warzone streamers play from their bedrooms against 12 year olds and dads who are getting off their 9-5 job😂

    • @g-g43
      @g-g43 2 месяца назад +1

      @@hangtime104Lies keep coping

    • @SmokeySoMessy
      @SmokeySoMessy 2 месяца назад

      damn you beat me too it lol

    • @muhannad3486
      @muhannad3486 2 месяца назад

      ​@@LebrunQueafwith Cronus,soft aim bot,wall hacks,and Allah(God) knows what

  • @kaysirr
    @kaysirr 2 месяца назад +83

    The top %1 of warzone players could switch to CDL while %100 of CDL pro could be pro warzone pros

    • @HYPNO_OCE
      @HYPNO_OCE 2 месяца назад +14

      0% they have to go and play challengers he never got any offers nobody would take there chance on a player that isn't proven 😅

    • @KAIZN-Consulting
      @KAIZN-Consulting 2 месяца назад +1

      WZ “Pros” will get spit on in the CDL
      Go to twitch, Drazah challs them every night
      Map count is like 45-1

    • @Jiynzo
      @Jiynzo 2 месяца назад +10

      Not even top 1% lol maybe 2-3 players at most

    • @AlwaysEwok
      @AlwaysEwok 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Jiynzothat’s generous there’s probably 1 that grew up grinding search and would be a 1 game mode demon which will get you dropped after 1 season at maximum

    • @beerdo
      @beerdo 2 месяца назад +2

      1% is generous. 0.01%

  • @StrategicWins
    @StrategicWins 2 месяца назад +70

    It's like comparing the NBA to the WNBA

    • @AllenVick82093
      @AllenVick82093 2 месяца назад +1

      💯

    • @PhiLLyPhiLLz
      @PhiLLyPhiLLz 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah they both play basketball, but…..

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад +1

      Warzone bedroom streamers are like Special Olympics not WNBA🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @g-g43
      @g-g43 2 месяца назад +4

      That’s disrespectful to the WNBA

  • @VllBezZ
    @VllBezZ 2 месяца назад +18

    warzone "pros" are so good that they shit on dads coming home from work, while cdl pros play vs other pros lol

    • @LebrunQueaf
      @LebrunQueaf 2 месяца назад +6

      Literally. Then they go and post a clip of them wiping a squad in warzone and act like they didn’t just kill Mr. Smith and his buddies who just got home from their 9-5 job😂😂. It’s actually comedy

  • @SigmaShorts911
    @SigmaShorts911 2 месяца назад +13

    there is no debate.

  • @KAIZN-Consulting
    @KAIZN-Consulting 2 месяца назад +14

    Shifty tries to play Pros on S&D every night the past two weeks
    They also only play like 2-3 maps on S&D
    I think map count is 45 for CDL pros and 1 for the WZ kids
    Shifty’s tweet is from that one win lmao

    • @Will502x
      @Will502x 2 месяца назад +4

      I haven’t seen him get more than 4 kills against cdl players 😂

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад

      @@Will502x most games he has zero🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @PhiLLyPhiLLz
      @PhiLLyPhiLLz 2 месяца назад +2

      And he gets slammed every match

    • @LAARRRRRYYY
      @LAARRRRRYYY 2 месяца назад +3

      And you gotta think snd would be their best shot at getting a dub..

    • @hangtime104
      @hangtime104 2 месяца назад +2

      You guys are just yapping and straight up lying for likes now? The sad part is how cdl fanboys are just eating it up and believing this comment too when the warzone guys have been trading maps and winning 2-3 in a row at times…. Yeah the cdl players are up on overall count but to say shifty won one map and only drops 0-4 kills is just wrong. He’s dropped multi digits multiple times and they’ve won a ton of maps 🤦‍♂️

  • @alvarobanegas5841
    @alvarobanegas5841 2 месяца назад +17

    Any cdl pro can go in a wz tourney and get top 3 easily.
    Not a single wz pro can go in cdl and avoid getting last place (T12). Not even challengers, that’s why they don’t even bother to play challengers, they know they can’t hang.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      Crimsix, your all time greatest player, gave it 5 months and couldn't do shit, LMAO! He was average at best against the rest. Nowhere close to any top 3. Nobody decent even cared to pick him up. Haha, the delusion..

    • @jaygm3
      @jaygm3 2 месяца назад +1

      @@LG-bi1srthe sad thing heres is that most of streamers are cheaters scare ass guys, that dont have courage to play without seeing through walls, most cdl players are because of knowledge of how and when people move, even top cdl players rotations, thats is what makes them crazy good

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      @@jaygm3 So the WZ players cheat on LAN as well? Held by Activision? I have news for you, the best WZ guys who wins the most online still performed and won on LAN. They had the same awareness on LAN, explain that

    • @rileygreen8563
      @rileygreen8563 2 месяца назад

      ​@@LG-bi1srA team full of warzone pros would not last in the cdl. A team full of Cdl pros would win warzone tournaments. Its that simple.

    • @1OffGabagool
      @1OffGabagool 2 месяца назад +1

      @@rileygreen8563theyve had teams full of cdl pros in a few wz tournaments and none ever placed good

  • @riversmakris
    @riversmakris 2 месяца назад +18

    Top 0.5% of WZ "Pros" would get demolished by Optic Dynasty, coL and the current Faze Lineup with the tiny terrors. Scump won the tournament without using a portable safe space riot shield, that speaks volumes. End of debate

    • @beerdo
      @beerdo 2 месяца назад +8

      they would get destroyed by the current Carolina royal ravens roster lmfao

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад +1

      Shit let's see them get into Challengers😅

    • @The666Gdragon
      @The666Gdragon 2 месяца назад

      We will never know how warzone pros would perform if they play,train practice competitive multiplayer cod as much as cdl pros. U dont know if they would be able to adapt as fast as them. When mw2 and mw3 got released biffle also performed good against pros on the testing lan events. Scump won because he is scump the goat. A player that was always consistent in every cod for over a decade even tho the game mechanics changed so much. He is one in 8 billion. U cant compare him to any other player and say they scump did it so every cdl pro can do it. Cdl pros>warzone pros because they always play against the top of the world and if u cant compete u get dropped.

    • @beerdo
      @beerdo 2 месяца назад +4

      @@The666Gdragon not very well if wz pros gotta do all that prep, while cdl pros can hop into WZ and smoke everybody 😂
      abezy priestahh and cell set one of the first WZ kill records their first time playing. there's no comparison between these wz kids and real cod pros

    • @The666Gdragon
      @The666Gdragon 2 месяца назад +1

      @@beerdo if it was so easy every cdl pro would go into world series of warzone and get the free money.

  • @li_moody0038
    @li_moody0038 2 месяца назад +8

    Warzone not even the hardest battle royale so it’s def not harder than the cdl 😭

    • @goldwerewolf8651
      @goldwerewolf8651 2 месяца назад +1

      yah apex is the hardest

    • @LebrunQueaf
      @LebrunQueaf 2 месяца назад +1

      @@goldwerewolf8651fr apex is by far the hardest.

  • @a.maricely
    @a.maricely 2 месяца назад +5

    CDL players are way better than WZ kids. They can’t make it into the league

  • @NateMiqqqo
    @NateMiqqqo 4 дня назад +1

    the reason why is because some of these pros have been trying to enter competitive play since they were 12 meaning they were practicing more than just shooting straight and relying on uavs and sound. u have to learn different timings spawns split spawns and way more than that so it would be very hard

  • @FubaR-FTW
    @FubaR-FTW 2 месяца назад +5

    CDL pros are better and it really is not a debate at all.

  • @emanuelcano5723
    @emanuelcano5723 2 месяца назад +4

    I think the fight against huskers was crazier then Aiden’s

  • @DfuseBombs
    @DfuseBombs 2 месяца назад +1

    I can see you put a lot of effort into editing your videos. Good job!

  • @k45207
    @k45207 2 месяца назад +6

    I haven’t even watched the whole video yet but This isn’t even a debate. No CDL team is trying to sign WZ players to their roster. They’ll sign them as content creators but let’s not get it twisted, and I don’t think any WZ players who are signed to a CDL orgs would disagree. they aren’t getting recruited or signed to take a roster spot on a professional team 😂. Now a CDL pro could switch over to WZ and do very well, and any WZ simps please put your bias a side for a second, we know that’s the case because we have evidence of that happening. My favorite example is Scump winning the 100k solo yolo whatever. And it wasn’t a lucky fluke win dude had the most amount of kills in the lobby with a diamati and no riot shield. The guy didn’t even know when the loadout drop came in he was asking his chat(which is a hilarious clip btw if you haven’t seen it). That being said we don’t have evidence of the opposite happening, ever. We don’t even have an example of a WZ pro joining a CDL team and getting shit on lol

    • @elvivo3718
      @elvivo3718 2 месяца назад +1

      W comment

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад

      That was a wall of words that I was happy to read and the logic in it is impeccable👍👍

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад

      That was a wall of words that I was happy to read and the logic in it is impeccable👍👍

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      I have another one for you, your all time great Crimsix, how did he do? I mean he gave it 5 months, he actually tried and failed. No, Scump never won any tournament, he placed 32th with Shotzzy out of 50 teams. He won one game of WZ solos which was played for the first time and no one had any experience. Another one for you, what about all the retired pros except Rated and Tommey that actually play WZ? Why aren't they running it? I mean they grind WZ, shouldn't they be crushing it?
      You have no evidence for WZ players making it over to CDL because it would not make any sense for a top WZ player to make less money to scrim 8 hours a day on a poor roster. It's common sense

    • @pkade9963
      @pkade9963 2 месяца назад

      @@LG-bi1sr Your argument falls right when you mention Crimsix. Crimsix was goated nearly half a decade ago. There's multiple retired CDL pros that play WZ and do well, so your second point is also complete nonsense. You wanna talk about tournaments but what happened during the early MW2 tournaments with CDL and WZ going head to head. Why couldn't biffle or shifty do shit in the SnD tournament in MW2? What about the 2v2 tournament? How come Shifty and Hisoka got slammed by Cellium and AbeZy? How come Biffle went negative every single map? That tournament had Gunfight, Hardpoint, and A WARZONE GAME. Why did a CDL duo win the whole thing? Why were WZ kids knocked out in the first round?

  • @kryptikbeats
    @kryptikbeats 2 месяца назад +1

    im back for another great video and of course the lemmino music

  • @nathansmith5215
    @nathansmith5215 2 месяца назад +3

    It’s not an endless debate, it’s literally just like three warzone pros saying they’d be good. Not a soul outside the warzone scene really cares about their opinions. Warzone pros always got cod pros on their minds. Every offseason they go over do decent in search challs but absolutely embarrassed at respawn. They gotta play challengers before acting like they’re “Pros” in cod. Warzone players are just mad Scump ended any argument they thought they would have. Ya pro at a rng based game they pro at a straight up shooter.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      "No one cares", but if you look at all the comments on YT and Twitter it's all CDL fans, LMAO! Look at the comments! haha, you guys are so insecure. That's why they claim to be better btw, because they know they'll get engagements from you. Insecure and stupid, that's a great combination. In Scumps solo yolo one random match win (first time ever being played, no one had any experience), he and Shotzzy(teams of two) placed 35th place in the actual tournament. Your two best guys were around top 60 of the best WZ players, LMAO!
      But they didn't have much experience playing WZ on Verdansk? You could argue that, but that doesn't the WZ guys have playing MP either. Crim tried though. Your all time best player came in with a chip on his shoulder in WZ2 after getting dropped and gave it 5 months. He got to the point where he couldn't hide behind low experience and failed. He was mediocre at best, no one even thought about picking him up. Now you're thinking about Tommey or Rated, they were CDL players and they've have had success, the only two out of how many? Even the former CDL players that enjoys playing WZ doesn't compete and they grind it every day, lmao.

    • @nathansmith5215
      @nathansmith5215 2 месяца назад

      @@LG-bi1sr your delusion is wild, you really expect cod world champions in their offseason to go 100% at Warzone. Crim only ever tried Warzone he never put his whole effort into it so quit lying about that not a soul on this planet will wear that cap. Aren’t Tommy and rated both washed at Warzone?? Last I checked biffle and aydan are 1 and 2 so how about you name your best players instead of some washed former cod pros NOT CDL PROS. Understand the difference they played cod when there were 16 diverse teams with parity. Neither of them would last a match in challengers now. Literally the best Warzone players are all failed cod players. Nobody cared about this topic until warzone players started getting checked every offseason by the cdl pros. You watch the warzone v cdl tournament this offseason? Where your favorite players were dropping .4s in hardpoint ? Outside of the kill races cod pros dog walked ya boys back to the rng field. Even in the kill races they were close. Ya still almost lost at your own games bro🤣

    • @nathansmith5215
      @nathansmith5215 2 месяца назад

      @@LG-bi1sr also Crim is literally racing cars rn. He’s above the cod pro status imo.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      @@nathansmith5215 1. First of all, Crim tried. I watched it and rooted for him, but he failed.
      2. I'm not expecting any of current CDL pros to grind off season, even though I think some of them would if they thought they could win WSOW. Should be easy money, no?
      3. Tommey and Rated are not as dominant as they used to, but that's mainly because of team breakups. I used them as examples for you since they're the only ones who actually have been dominant. So it's basically an argument for CDL pros being better. But then again we have lots of former pros who should be able to hang, there's none. Which proves that the skillset and competition is way harder than most of you think. The skillset is also different, it doesn't necessarily translate over. Which is why it's kinda stupid hearing you guys say any cdl player could just run it if they wanted.
      4. Shifty and Biffle are the best WZ players right now. Just so you know even Crowder thinks both of them could play in the league.
      5. Yeah, obviously did they play cod before battle royal was a thing. And the ones who tried couldn't make it because, as I stated over, it's a different skillset.
      6. There are still really nobody that cares except you guys. The WZ streams say it for engagement and content. Their viewers think you are funny how you react. So it's a win for them.
      7. Kinda obvious they would do worse playing a mode they don't usually play against players who only play that mode, no? How do CDL players do when they try in WZ? Huke, Illey and temp tried to qualify for wsow and got top 200...
      8. No wz only team almost lost against a cdl only team in wz. On the other hand a full WZ squad have won MULTIPLE MAPS AGAINST CDL PROS IN MP, LMAO! That's embarrassing! 🤣

  • @aibel99
    @aibel99 2 месяца назад +3

    This is hard to compare but one fact is that cdl is pure basics skill and in 50 50 gun fights, im betting on cdl pros all the time.
    The reason its hard to compare is becuase of: luck.
    Luck is a huge element in WZ but much smaller element in ranked play.
    It isnt a like for like comparison.
    Top WZ players have better creativity, movement and finess on the map generally.
    Cdl players are the absolute best at basic cod though, period.

    • @DrTae-jy8pu
      @DrTae-jy8pu 2 месяца назад

      You think warzone players have better movement and finesse than cdl pros?

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      It's all luck, that's why Biffle, Shifty and Sage wins all the tournaments. They're the most lucky I guess. How many different CDL teams have won the tournaments the last 2 years? It's 7 different teams...out of 12!

  • @Will502x
    @Will502x 2 месяца назад +3

    Let me see cheaters that play against kids and working men or players that play against the best talent in cod 😂 I mean seriously get real

  • @artofthegun4822
    @artofthegun4822 2 месяца назад +3

    The scump argument is so stupid. The solo yolo doesn’t mean anything. It’s just a fun event. Scump got slammed in the actual WSOW. The reason warzone pros don’t go into challengers is because they make more money than CDL pros.

    • @izaaktyler1733
      @izaaktyler1733 2 месяца назад

      I feel like this is the only reasonable comment here. Why would biffle who is making more than all of atl faze combined want to go play in the cdl. If the cdl pros are so good and could easily become pros in warzone they would. There is way more money and longevity in warzone because these cdl pros hand are destroyed after 5 years. Crimsix the goat of mp call of duty tried to go play warzone and couldn't hang at all. Not even a top 500 player

    • @bapexcarti3
      @bapexcarti3 2 месяца назад

      ​@@izaaktyler1733they have more earned he won't catch up..

    • @FamilyOvaEverythng
      @FamilyOvaEverythng 2 месяца назад

      They make more money? They’re on a contract , get paid for majors and stream part time? I promise they don’t make more money

    • @artofthegun4822
      @artofthegun4822 2 месяца назад +1

      @@FamilyOvaEverythng they 100% do. That was scump’s argument of why they don’t join the CDL. The league minimum is like 125k annually. Streamers like Biffle are making that in a month. Not to mention the sponsorships plus tourney money.

  • @fjvlogs4251
    @fjvlogs4251 2 месяца назад +1

    GREAT VIDEO

  • @LAARRRRRYYY
    @LAARRRRRYYY 2 месяца назад +4

    I really can’t believe that man said being the best warzone player is more skillful than being the best cdl player. The margin for error in the cdl is so much smaller compared to warzone.

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад +1

      Repulze has 2 brain cells that don't connect 😂

    • @izaaktyler1733
      @izaaktyler1733 2 месяца назад

      well here's the math for you is it easier to be better than 47 other players or a million

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад

      @@izaaktyler1733 yet that million can't be better than those 47 other players smooth brain

  • @toinfinity095
    @toinfinity095 2 месяца назад +1

    I don’t think I’ve seen a single coherent thought from either side of the argument in this comment section😂

  • @shadowballuser
    @shadowballuser 2 месяца назад +2

    Should have talked and shown footage of the time when cdl pros like cell scrap and others played against biffle and aydan in some vanguard and mw2019 1v1s, both sides won games but the cdl guys won the most, its on zoomas channel from like a year and a half ago

  • @goatliles21
    @goatliles21 2 месяца назад +4

    This is a massive W

  • @bp3484
    @bp3484 2 месяца назад +1

    It’s not even close, shifty is absolutely terrible, he runs with hisoka and blazt who both started in SnD. And I can talk because I’ve played the guys multiple times.

  • @iGenjiHD
    @iGenjiHD 2 месяца назад +1

    If 1vs1 was a thing that shows how skillful you are for the CDL then Falcon King Abody should be in the league.
    Let them Warzone players first prove themselves in challengers, but at some point there will be one good enough for the league at least

  • @user-is9yz9mu5d
    @user-is9yz9mu5d 2 месяца назад +4

    Shooting straight is at the bottom of the list of things that put you ahead as a pro.
    Decision making is number 1

    • @patriotgaming4890
      @patriotgaming4890 2 месяца назад +2

      Shooting straight is right at the top, who are you kidding? Of course you have to have a solid understanding of the game, spawns, rotations etc also... but to say shooting straight is not at the top of the list is just wrong

    • @itskai253
      @itskai253 2 месяца назад +5

      @@patriotgaming4890I think he’s saying that bc everyone at their level can shoot straight. Shit even crimson players and up in ranked play shoot straight that’s pretty easy. To actually be good you gotta know routes, spawns, timings and etc to actually be good at a high level

    • @lagunacinematics
      @lagunacinematics 2 месяца назад

      ​@@patriotgaming4890 shooting straight is at the bottom of the list when it comes to being a CDL pro. because everyone in the CDL can shoot straight.

    • @stonedPELICAN
      @stonedPELICAN 2 месяца назад

      ​@@patriotgaming4890I agree shooting straight is a huge part but not the number 1. Watch the havok vids of plats trying to beat a crim, the crim gets outgunned every map but still wins every game cos of game sense and rotations

    • @nathansmith5215
      @nathansmith5215 2 месяца назад

      @@patriotgaming4890bro anybody that has played cod 12 hours a day can shoot straight. Once you’re a decent player your aim is at the bottom of the list of requirements. Everybody can shoot at the top. People say Dashy has the best shot ever but only has two event wins since he started in IW champs.

  • @strykesss9460
    @strykesss9460 2 месяца назад +1

    Let me end the debate right here:
    - cod pros usually play in 5 different type of games = scrims, pro 8s, ranked play, league matches and major matches
    - warzone pros play in 3 different type of games = ranked play, kill race tournaments and custom tournaments
    If that is not enough, you need to remember that there is always 3 different type of game modes in the CDL and a map pool/game mode map pool change after each major. Warzone pros play basically the same game every time except that the circle changes and maybe the meta changes so they make a new loadout.

    • @bapexcarti3
      @bapexcarti3 2 месяца назад

      L TAKE UR YAPPN JUST SAY CDL IS BETTER

    • @strykesss9460
      @strykesss9460 2 месяца назад

      @@bapexcarti3 bro, these warzone kids don't listen to logic. I get it, your not very smart and you don't watch the CDL so educate yourself before commenting

  • @kojob1
    @kojob1 2 месяца назад +1

    This shouldn’t even be a debate
    Warzone pros are recording clips against dads and shit thinking they the best in the world and its even so hard to climb the ranks in the multiplayer side of things than it is in warzone
    Not to even talk about challengers
    These kids are faded fr

  • @DrTae-jy8pu
    @DrTae-jy8pu 2 месяца назад +2

    I have no clue what a warzone pro is because they're practice is literally ranked play but anyways.
    First of all no CDL team was looking at Biffle over a challengers all star for a spot, that's literally a lie and it's crazy people tried to say that lol. I think the worst part about all of this is all the warzone people saying that all CDL pros do is sit in corners at camp for kills. You can tell that anyone who says this has never played cdl ranked and never watched a cdl match because I wish my lobbies were full of kids who didn't move.
    The issue with a lot of these warzone streamers is that they think being at the top of the cod league is all about shooting your gun straight. If shooting straight was the only requirement than we would have 20 league team of people who can shoot their gun. COD at the pro level is way more about understanding map spawns and when to block, when not to block, watching VOD and making strats against opposing teams, and so much more with them practicing for hours a day against other top teams. People just don't understand how good the CDL teams are. Yeah the bottom team sucks but they are gunning the top challengers teams.
    Theres no debate on which group is more skilled, if half those warzone streamers did 4v4, 3v3, 2v2 challs against cdl pros they're getting waxed.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      So "understanding map spawns and when to block, when not to block, watching VOD and making strats against opposing teams, and so much more with them practicing for hours" equals skill? To me that sounds like memorization and hard work...? How do you know any of the WZ players can't remember spawns or put in hard work? The tactical part would I consider a skill, but each team usually has one or two players doing that part and a coach, no?

    • @DrTae-jy8pu
      @DrTae-jy8pu 2 месяца назад

      @@LG-bi1sr The coach can’t call plays during a match once they’re in it it’s all them. Everyone thinks doing stuff like memorizing spawns and knowing all that shit is easy until your really playing and one bad call or mid read can end a map. And at the top level you simply don’t see them do that however you do see that a lot in challengers. In warzone you pretty much never chalk if you don’t have plates, the best players in cod are good enough to play timings and chalk while 1 shot and break hills. But even then like you gotta realize that cod pros literally scrim this shit for hours a day and then practicing more off stream. I think the reason warzone pros don’t understand why they simply are out classed is because they’ve never spawned in against cdl pros for thousands of dollars on main stage.
      Cod skill is more than just shooting obviously. But when you look at the factors of a good player; gun skill, game sense, objective gameplay knowledge and how to play each gamemode. Cdl pros simply outclass warzone pros in all of these.
      I will admit to being proven wrong when a warzone pro makes it to the cdl and wins a tournament.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      @@DrTae-jy8pu 1. You never see bad calls in the CDL? I just saw Pred lose a map because he wouldn't get off the point in HP, like what?
      2. Never said it was easy. I said it's more tied to hard work than a skill. And there's no reason to think that any of the best WZ players wouldn't be able to handle that.
      3. I'll give you making strategic choices on the spot, which every CDL player needs to be good at. I consider that a skill, but again there's no reason to believe players like Shifty couldn't master that. That's also a skill in WZ.
      4. If you're in a bad spot playing WZ costumes, against each other, you are chalked... You don't watch, do you? Still arguing..
      5. Everyone understands that WZ players lose against CDL players in MULTIPLAYER, because THAT'S WHAT THEY PLAY! That's literally the argument. They scrim it. Could Biffle and Shifty also be somewhere in the top 50 players if they did scrim, aka they are good enough if they did scrim multiplayer all day? Crowder thinks so, so how you as an average viewer think you know better, even though you don't watch WZ is CRAZY to me.
      6. "gun skill, game sense, objective gameplay knowledge", you don't think those plays a part in competitive WZ? They do.
      7. Nah, they don't have to win, they have to just be picked up. That's the claim. Some of them are good enough to be playing in the league. Crowder thinks so, but I guess you know both COD MP and WZ better, right?

    • @DrTae-jy8pu
      @DrTae-jy8pu 2 месяца назад

      @@LG-bi1sr My frustration and arguments isn’t with the idea that warzone players can play in the CDL. It’s the fact that they say they’re good enough at their current state to play in the CDL. Obviously if they scrim and practice they maybe will get better, but we’ve seen tons of top challengers players join the league and they couldn’t produce good gameplay against the top teams.
      And let’s get one thing straight Biffle was not getting CDL offers that was straight up a lie and also what pissed me off about this whole thing because when that guy said that he made it look like the CDL picks up randoms from ranked play and tries them out in the league. Every player who plays at the professional level had to compete for at least 2 years at the challenger level to prove they are somewhat competent for cod ranked.
      Biffle and shifty PROBABLY could play in the CDL if they practiced for it however you can just say that because someone is good at warzone and they make god plays in warzone that that translates into the skills required to play in the CDL.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      @@DrTae-jy8pu That's obviously bait/delusion. They say stuff like that because you guys love this topic and always engage on twitter, yt. etc. I agree on what you said, we don't know if they could transfer over, it's speculations. But know that Crowder thinks they can, that says a lot.

  • @1OffGabagool
    @1OffGabagool 2 месяца назад +1

    Good video bro, but scump won the solo yolo not the actual wsow. Solo yolos more of a fun event and not the the real comp. mode. Scumps team was one of the bottom teams in the actual wsow, and btw i love scumpy hes the goat

  • @PhiLLyPhiLLz
    @PhiLLyPhiLLz 2 месяца назад +1

    Why biffle implied that they didn’t get paid prize earnings for wsow. Kinda crazy 😮

  • @marintoss
    @marintoss 2 месяца назад +1

    Every WZ player that came out of his room and came to LAN played like absolute bot! If someone says wtf are you talking about Bifle won WSOW, I will just say, 8mins without a single soul firing a shot in YOLO and finals of trios was a bit more active but not buy much. And I wont even go into accuracy of those players on LAN vs their bedroom. And ability to shoot while slippin and sliding on LAN vs bedroom. The arguing is pointless, CDL will always be on top of the skill tree, games those guys play and tournaments they play are against other pros not some VPN bot lobbies where they play pubs and a kill race. Cringe.

  • @mfswylin
    @mfswylin 2 месяца назад

    They’re both COD, just entirely different genres of games. Movement/map knowledge/awareness are important in both but the smaller scale of CDL maps means there’s just more going on at once and more emphasis on outplaying your opponent.. as much as I can watch warzone streamers chase down or get the drop on bad players half the game there’s nothing like watching someone navigate a fast paced 1v4 defending a plant in S&D

  • @Yezzuu
    @Yezzuu 2 месяца назад +2

    warzone kids cheat and can’t do shit on LAN theres no comp for pros

  • @IamByzer
    @IamByzer 2 месяца назад +2

    Warzone pros just have huge egos they don’t stand a chance in a CDL pro match. Scump proved that all you need is a good shot and some game sense to win a Warzone tournament. There are huge steps you have to take to get a spot into a CDL team vs going pro on Warzone. The ba of saying that a Warzone kid was offered multiple CDL spots is hilarious as if there isn’t some amazing challenger players out there right now

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      He didn't win any tournament, but you wouldn't know because you didn't watch it. He got top 35 out of 50 teams alongside Shotzzy

    • @LebrunQueaf
      @LebrunQueaf 2 месяца назад

      @@LG-bi1srhe won $100k in the solo tournament. I’d say that’s a pretty big win buddy. And he did that with no practice, just hopped into warzone and dunked on them all solo.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      @@LebrunQueaf Solo game*. I watched the whole thing, did you?
      Yeah, it was a great game, watched him live all the way. I rooted for him. But in the actual tournament which was 5 games prior of squads of 2 they did really bad. That's the mode everyone else had experience in. That solo game he won was the first ever, Scump didn't have any experience, but so didn't the others either.

  • @elvivo3718
    @elvivo3718 2 месяца назад +3

    Isnt thay shifty kid basically a confirmed chester? I can't see how'd you explain some of his clips

  • @prod.saiyan4863
    @prod.saiyan4863 2 месяца назад

    The only thing Warzone players could compete is in SND
    Respawn they’re getting farmed

  • @bigtarantula9286
    @bigtarantula9286 2 месяца назад +1

    What debate? Warzone kids pub stomp all day and consider themselves good they’re all awful

  • @3pmybooks
    @3pmybooks 18 дней назад

    75% - 95% Out of Thin Air Warzone Pros:
    Walls, anti-recoil & soft aim lock.
    CDL Pros: Experience of playing CoD for years on top of years.

  • @ismaelsierra9946
    @ismaelsierra9946 2 месяца назад

    Wz pros can definitely make the transition, there's a team called the Boston Breach that are dead last. I'm sure Biffle, Sage and shifty can hang with the best.

  • @jxstcrank
    @jxstcrank 2 месяца назад

    To become a warzone pro you just need a menu and TikTok, to be a cdl pro you have to do years of dedicated legit game play to even get a sniff at challengers and if you preform good there by some miracle you might get a call

  • @yardball1621
    @yardball1621 2 месяца назад +1

    The biggest difference is the cheating. Let’s be real. WZ top streamers have all had incredibly sus moments. We know a majority of them have or are cheating in some way.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, one of them got caught on LAN, I think he was named Jimbo or something

  • @izaaktyler1733
    @izaaktyler1733 2 месяца назад

    At the end of the day we will never know. Warzone "pros" will never try to switch over because they make WAYYY more money than cdl pros. What i will say though is the argument that all cdl players could crossover and be successful is just wrong. So many have tried and failed. Tommy and Rated being the only real successful ones. If the cdl pros could compete in warzone they would. And i get it that scump won but look back at that match. It was the first custom competitive solo game ever. No-one knew what to expect and he won. ONE GAME not a tournament but one single match.

  • @ccm0222
    @ccm0222 2 месяца назад

    Warzone pros complain about people working together "stacking" they gonna complain on twitter whenever they get pushed by multiple players 😂 the top top players can switch if they play challengers for a year, but they still might not get a spot. We should just run a bracket where the warzone pros all make teams and compete for the chance to play the winners from champs after the season, a show match best warzone MP team vs best cdl team. Do it anually

  • @remaisa
    @remaisa 2 месяца назад +1

    CDL > WARZONE

  • @brennencumming2936
    @brennencumming2936 2 месяца назад

    Warzone pros are guys who were never good enough for the cdl. How is this even a thing?

  • @jaxthecat1778
    @jaxthecat1778 2 месяца назад

    No. The top 250 in league play can't compete against pros.

  • @LebrunQueaf
    @LebrunQueaf 2 месяца назад

    Just think about it this way. When you see a warzone streamer post a clip of him wiping a team, they most likely just killed a group of dads getting off work late, or a handful of 13 year olds who are in a random squad. Now that you know this, tell me how impressive those clips really are 😂😂😂😂. How does anyone take warzone streamers serious ahahahha

  • @chefizzy2238
    @chefizzy2238 2 месяца назад

    A cod pro won a WZ tournament in his first go, no WZ player has made noise even in challengers. WZ “pros” are CDL rejects

  • @Draiyden
    @Draiyden 2 месяца назад

    Bro Tommy is a ex cdl bro and hes now a warzone pro n he’s killing goes to show cdl is way harder to be good at

  • @Fusion_Stin
    @Fusion_Stin 2 месяца назад

    Warzone players are just delusional lmao every time without fail they get shit on my cdl players then somehow have the audacity to keep yapping

  • @c8linnn
    @c8linnn 2 месяца назад

    W video ‼️‼️

  • @overmon623
    @overmon623 2 месяца назад +1

    W video

  • @Grehnade
    @Grehnade 2 месяца назад

    That guy with the Hawaiian cap is faded. Dog water take.

  • @Bonkbork
    @Bonkbork 2 месяца назад

    WZ bots dont understand just because youre good in one area doesnt mean you're gonna dominate in the other. Dashy + Drazah just scrimmed WZ bots the other day and murdered them. Just let the WZ bots keep dreaming because they're all delusional and their matches consists of bot lobbies anyway lol

  • @Draiyden
    @Draiyden 2 месяца назад

    I think aydan n biffle could make the switch but that’s about it

  • @fourceable
    @fourceable 2 месяца назад

    Forget cdl pros wz pros wont be able to hang with the top challenger players.

  • @Mornings
    @Mornings 2 месяца назад

    The only reason this is an argument is because COD and Warzone are the lowest skill gap esports in history 💀

  • @ozzyplays6352
    @ozzyplays6352 2 месяца назад

    the WZ vs CDL debate is, and always will be ridiculous. no one has ever questioned if some of these warzone guys can shoot straight or hold angles. they play against shitstain NPC players in Guatemala due to VPNs, and then when they play in pro tournaments against people who can shoot straight, they hide in buildings, use riot shields etc. in the CDL the absolute bottom of the barrel pro/top challenger would rinse an average player. then you got players like the entire roster of NYSL, FaZe, OpTic and Toronto that rinse those bottom players. theres levels to this shit and any multiplayer pub stomper/leaderboard holder would get rinsed the same. rant over stick to pubs wz kids

  • @12james19
    @12james19 2 месяца назад

    lmaooo didnt scump win with normal guns while warzone players were running shields lmao if yall think warzone players would even come close to cdl players ur hella faded

  • @kaysirr
    @kaysirr 2 месяца назад

    W vid

  • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
    @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад

    Repulze is a bit 🤡🤡🤡

  • @jadenkraan7362
    @jadenkraan7362 2 месяца назад

    Scump is the best ever… is he an only wz player? Guess not huh

  • @mrsauce4139
    @mrsauce4139 2 месяца назад

    Warzone kids wouldnt and couldnt compete in the cdl cdl players would smoke every warzone kid anyday

  • @Rixxzy_
    @Rixxzy_ 2 месяца назад

    Even if they did go head to head... the warzone player's will not play respawn modes, they will only play SnD matches because lets face it they would honestly get smoked in respawn 🤦‍♂️

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад +1

      Do you see any CDL players challenging on WZ though? Nah, the worse players have to go over to the other mode they don't play. How do you think it would go the other way around?

    • @Rixxzy_
      @Rixxzy_ 2 месяца назад

      @LG-bi1sr would probs be a similar outcome, cdl players would win.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Rixxzy_ You don't actually pay attention do you? LMAO, and still commenting on the topic... No current or former CDL pro has ever done anything in WZ except for Tommey and Rated. That's two out of how many? Some of them grind WZ as well, still not competing. Strange? No, wait Huke, Illey and Temp tried last year. Couldn't even qualify for the first round of WSOW, which makes them top 200

    • @Rixxzy_
      @Rixxzy_ 2 месяца назад

      Oh no, have I hurt your feelings? 😄 you do realise Scump never plays warzone and won a WZ tourny against all the so called warzone pros

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Rixxzy_ Why do you think that, because I bring up factual examples of the opposite you just predicted?
      Scump never won any tournament. He won one match where no one had any experience. The first solo dolo ever. Impressive but not an argument in this discussion. He even says so himself, lmao. Brain dead take :)

  • @Welcome_To_The_Oasis
    @Welcome_To_The_Oasis 2 месяца назад

    2:20 Completely wrong
    Scump didn’t win the solos tournament because he is in the CDL, he won it because he is the best in the game. Even compared to other CDL pros he is still on top. Your logic there is very flawed.

  • @WeavyVAL
    @WeavyVAL 2 месяца назад

    Yeaaaaaah tims the fuckin man king scumpii da goat

  • @fatinahmed5406
    @fatinahmed5406 2 месяца назад

    Tbh i think the very best wz pros can def go pro in the cdl. I mean weve seen a guy like biffle beat shotzzy in a 1v1 so he def has the gunny

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад

      You said 1v1 😅 shotzzy been a pro in Halo and Call of Duty Biffle been a bedroom streamer

    • @fatinahmed5406
      @fatinahmed5406 2 месяца назад

      @@user-zo5gv8ls7k wat exactly is ur point?

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад

      @@fatinahmed5406... what was your point by your comment that I responded to? This kind of easy it's called discourse 👍

    • @user-zo5gv8ls7k
      @user-zo5gv8ls7k 2 месяца назад

      @@fatinahmed5406 ALSO... optic gaming does 1V1's in public on a lan setup I dare any of those war zone bitches to try

    • @royalty4958
      @royalty4958 2 месяца назад +1

      @@fatinahmed5406 There is more to the CDL than gunny, even if biffle joins the league he's going straight to a bottom 6 team where he won't even be remotely competitive or playing for tripys

  • @charleswallstreet
    @charleswallstreet 2 месяца назад

    Warzone pro ? 😂😂😂😂

  • @marcosorellana2133
    @marcosorellana2133 2 месяца назад

    temp is trashh

  • @ryanowns5
    @ryanowns5 2 месяца назад

    Biffle, Scump, Aydan, Demon. Nuff said.

    • @li_moody0038
      @li_moody0038 2 месяца назад +6

      Simp,Hydra,Pred,Drazah,Scrap,Shottzy running through them no problem. And scump cdl not warzone