I know just how Herod feels. My son challenged me in Mortal Kombat XL. Afterwards, his mother looked at me like Sharon Stone did here. I told her the same thing, “I gave him a way out. He refused to take it.”
First time I watched this, my mom walked in at the beginning of the scene and said, “is this where he kills his son?” To this day, 25 years later, I say that sentence to her whenever she tries to claim she doesnt spoil movies.
We didn’t have remaining runtimes back then or digital menus showing the schedule for cable. It played with commercial breaks, and I had no idea when it would be over.
In that moment.. the Townsfolk gave him all the respect that he ever wanted... which is more than I can say for his Father. His Father was a horrible person... through and through!
@@DarthTrader707 Pathetic, isn't it? This young man has just been shot, and fatally wounded by his own "Father", and then, as he stands there, watching his own Son dying, he makes an absolutely horrid remark about his own Son, saying that "It was never proven, that he was his Son". This "Mayor"...or, rather, this Tyrant that owned that town, took 50¢ out of every Dollar from everybody, with his Henchmen doing his dirty work for him, wasn't as altogether killed by the Lady, there near the end of the movie. You see-He was already dead, inside of himself. His true soul was long-gone. He was, as far as I'm concerned, an empty shell of a "Man". He cared about no one...only Money. He was a greedy old churl, that finally got what was coming to him, we hen he was shot and killed...first having been shot through the heart, then the fatal bullet smashed straight through the right eye, and tore into his Brain with the force of a miniature Cannon. He was dead before he hit the ground!
You can tell that Herod knew and respected how fast the Kid was that he took no chances to try and disarm him, like he did with Ace or Sergent Cantrell. He aimed right on the torso to make sure he won't miss unlike the Kid who overestimated himself and aimed for the head.
Yup. Had the Kid aimed lower, for the chest, the shot would have killed. Shows the difference between a Civil War vet (Herod's implied backstory), bandit, and gunslinger, and a quickdraw tournament fighter. One knew how to draw and one knew how to kill.
The Kid aimed high because he didn't want to kill his dad. Herod aimed for center mass because he is a bastard who wouldn't share the spotlight with even his own son. If he had shot to wound, he could still have beat the Kid and taken him in as his successor, but that's not what Herod wants.
Only in movies do gunfighters try and "disarm" their opponents. I feel certain that in no actual gunfight was this tried. But if it ever was, the one who tried it ended up dead right after.
@@davidhoekstra8671 This is no actual gunfight, this is Mortal Kombat with guns. They all basically have superpowers, they just boil down to "draw quick and shoot precisely". Except for Ace, his superpower was being fabulous. Harod has it in him to shoot an opponent anywhere he likes, as evidenced by the previous times he did that in the movie, often just after turning around very quickly.
The kid only wanted his respect. How is he going to get that with Herod being dead. One could argue he intentionally just wounded him, and didn't even try to kill him.
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 Opposite of myself. I used to think he was a brat when he was younger and I even made fun of him. He grew on me as he got older.
@@0doublezero0 I actually did too, but after he started getting all the hype with his Scorcese flicks I started watching his earlier films and I think he has more range in those imo. He still is a great actor, but he kind of has a schtick nowadays, kinda like 90s Pacino.
This fight is so good. The Kid was right he probably is just a hair slower than he used to be, but he got cooky. The Kid went for the head Hackman went for center mass so he knew he wouldn't miss. Since he went for the head, Herod threw the kids aim of by a hair. since Herod's bullet hit first. If the kid went for center mass. Thet both would have probably died. Also, up until now, nobody could touch Herod in speed, but the kid was almost just as fast. Showing just how fast the kid really is. The town probably knew this and thought the kid was their only hope.
This scene makes me think of Herod and his motivations a little bit. He doesn't want to kill the Kid, urging him to drop out. And then, after he shoots him, he feels the need to justify himself to the Lady, saying "He wasn't mine." I think he's motivated by unconscious self-hatred. He's a cruel, mean-spirited guy, and it's earned him great success and prosperity. But it's also left a void in his life that he has no ability to fill. He hates what he's become and feels powerless to change it. That's why he does the quickdraw duels. He tells himself he just gets a thrill out of the life-and-death stakes. But the unconscious truth is that he wants somebody to kill him. It's the only "retirement" he can afford at this point. And it's also why he refuses to claim the Kid as his own, even in his last moments. Because it means he would have to take responsibility for the Kid. And that's something he just can't let himself do. Am I saying Herod's a sympathetic character? Of course not. He's a villain, plain and simple. But Hackman, I think, adds a level of depth to his villainy.
Doesn't he say, "It was never proved that he was mine. He was a farmer. But, he was mine." This is the one element of humanity that they actually give Herod.
@Stefan Arndt I looked up the script. The line is "It was a farmer that... He wasn't mine." Like, he started to say something and then just reiterated his point.
Probably the best scene in the film. The fact that the Herod character respectfully asked the kid to drop out so things wouldn't end the way they did is a very strong character moment. He clearly didn't want to kill him but at that point there was no other choice.
There was another choice, one he didn't see and neither did you. I grant, it's not obvious. Herod could have dropped out. His ego wouldn't even consider it. So he did have a choice, and he chose to kill his son(?).
@@Battlefield_And_Vibe_Music Bullshit. If someone steps up to you with the intent to kill whether in a competition or not, you have the right to defend yourself even if it's your son. You can ask him to back down like Herod did though.
@@Archedgar Bulltrue. He wasn't "stepping up to kill him." It was a competition, one that Herod could have forfeited if he really wanted to save his son. Acting like he had no choice is just that.
@@Bamzy Lol no asshat, girlfriend turned him on to it. Dad kept trying to clean him up, she'd hook him so he'd stay. In the end she got him killed and she got jail time.
Likely, Hackman is from an earlier generation of Hollywood when westerns were more common, and actors were practiced in quick draw in anticipation of being cast in westerns. Case in point, Jerry Lewis was a quick-draw officianado. And Sammy Davis Jr. was a phenomenon.
Yes! This is how good movies are made. Know what you are making, and stick to it. You can have powerful scenes like this, even in a cheeseball of a movie, if you embrace and love what you're making.
4:21 Like any villain you love to hate. He knew exactly what NOT to say !! Very good script writing by a legendary actor & at 4:34 you can tell that Lady wanted to kill that S. O... even more
Quite an honour to be killed in a showdown with a Gene Hackman character. Course, he was well accustomed to buying it himself, but not until he'd put the fear of God into everyone as a soulless, pitiless badass.
This is exactly like the time when I was a kid and my father bet me I couldn't carry a whole bundle of shingles up the ladder in 10 seconds. I shouldered the giant bundle and had just about reached the top of the 20' ladder when he kicked the ladder out from under me, sending me toppling to the ground, breaking my collar bone and wrist, and dislocating 3 vertebrae. Haha... Dad was always joking around like that.
Dude what the actual fuck, if this is a true story that makes your father a very cruel and abusive individual. Sorry, but that isn't right. Not only did he seriously injure you but he could have killed you. That's so messed up.
That’s all a son wants from his Father is “Respect” and any Father that has raised his boy right gives it to him when he becomes a Man….. I wouldn’t have drawn my pistol
The sad fact is that, in his way, Herod gave The Kid his respect...just the only kind he knew. Herod was a killer and a gunfighter. The Kid was the only fighter Herod gave a legitimate chance to drop out, in a tournament that was kill-or-be-killed. He was also the only fighter other than Cort that Herod didn't taunt, chat up, or small talk with prior to, or during, the fight. Herod's respect wasn't kind, it was cruel. His respect was the gun. It was all Herod had known, and sadly seems that it was all the Kid knew too.
Guys if you slow down the clip from 2:48 to 2:51 you can tell that when herod draws it takes him a full second to draw and shoot but when the kid draws it takes him a half second to draw and shoot, so the Kid was RIGHT. He WAS faster but he just aimed for the head, and lost.
@@struttux5156 I don’t think so. They both drew their guns the second the minute hand hit 12, not on the click a split second before. Had The Kid drawn on the click and not the strike of the hour, he could have won.
I always thought it was interesting Herod raised The Kid even though he wasnt his biological son. It ended up causing so much grief for the both of them. Makes me wonder how many times Herod told him he had the hands of a farmer.
Love Gene Hackman, such a good actor. I mean they all are in this but yeah even though he's horrible in this he actually makes you feel he's remorseful in this scene, great stuff.
if anyone remembers red dead revolver back on the ps2. this is what they used for reference for the showdowns at the end of the game. the kid the liar and the boss at the end
Old man ask for the rules Kid state the rules "no hands only head." Kid shoot miss a little inches in the head. Old man shoot in the torso. Me: "*visible confused intensifies*" ahhh did I miss something.
One could almost interpret Herod's distain for the Kid, based off his regret at killing him, as being repulsed at his only son pursuing his outlaw lifestyle rather than moving on. That or Herod's a damned psycho.
@ C. Galindo That’s not YOUR call to make, you arrogant prick. Not every person in this world got to have a stable/safe relationship with their father/father figure. Some people legit don’t need the approval of some perceived father figure, no matter what YOU think.
@@domanskikid ok calm down there buddy. Staying bitter shows that you really needed a father figure to help structure you better. Get helpd if you’re damaged that much and it’s impacting you that badly. There’s therapy for that these days, you know?
If the kid knew that Hackman had been practising his quick draw for months & was the fastest gun on the set, the kid would never have challenged him. 🙄
I hope I am not the only one that gets the impression this movie is like a "Street Fighter Game" only with guns. A bunch of random characters with all sorts of different backgrounds here to show what they are the best character in the game.
Herod was faster..did the kid slack because he was his dad? Regardless the kid would have killed him but Herod's bullet threw his aim off when it hit him.
If the whole town hated the guy, why not everyone draw down on him? He might be fast, but he ain't fast enough to take on everyone, nor could he even try. He only has six bullets.
It subtle but he looks at his girlfriend and reaches for her before he does the same for his father. It looks like losing his connection to people is hurting him more than the bullet wound.
Your aorta travels quite a distance close to your spine. There’s a lot of arteries in your body where you’d die very fast. Including in unexpected places, like your thigh and shoulder
This is what almost always happens to people in reality with a bullet wound. Only in a movies people with a bullet in the abdomen read to other characters of the essay for 40 pages.
the kid didn’t lose. He just didn’t want to kill him so the shot wasn’t lethal. Herold was scared of the kid speech and decided to focus intensely with all he had. That’s why he didn’t laugh or say something when the kid made the speech
The only thing that destroys the concept is the fact that Cort would have challenged Herod. He would have screamed it all night long after the first day.
The kid is not wrong about age catching up to everyone. If he had lived another five to ten years and then duelled him he probably would have won. As for Harod. Of course he is slowing down. We can see how fast he is here and that is with a lot of miles on the clock. Imagine him at 21 in his prime. Guy would have been unstoppable
This dynamic is so f'd up. "All I want is his respect."? Seriously? He's clearly a psychopath and doesn't respect anything or anyone. I guess it were different times back then. Meaning, that is, that folks was different.
A hero rises up to try and take out the bad guy! That’s what I think every time I hear the song start to play as he leaves his shop!! On a side note I’ll love just for a day to live in that time period.
Shit that was fast lol dude did way better than I would of quick drawing like that and getting off an aimed shot takes an insane amount of training and discipline.
Kid should have teamed up with Django after his biological father Calvin Candy was murdered and took some lessons and he might have beaten Harrod, his stepdad.
He says "I gave him a way out. He wouldn't take it." Meaning he probably knew he WAS his son. This is the only time we see Herod making excuses for his behavior in the whole movie.
@@NinjaBuddha503 I will say this again, Herod's ego ruined everything, imagine how much better his life would have been if he acknowledged Kid? He was literally proud of how easily Kid took Scars out. He knew deep down, but he was holding the anger from his wife cheating. I bet he was getting some on the side too, LOL 🤣
@@struttux5156 it was much deeper than that, look at the scene where Ellen was at dinner and he mentioned Kid's mother, when Ellen asked where she was then, as Herod's replying "I told you, she was UNFAITHFUL", the second that last word came out he violently cut into the apple he had been peeling gracefully for their entire conversation. Herod also repeatedly asked Kid to drop out of the contest, and he wouldn't be disgraced for doing so, a courtesy no other gunfighter would receive. If all Herod cared about was Kid's "potential", he would have recruited him just like he did Cort. there were only three times in the movie that Herod was actually worried, of course at the end when Ellen throws her Dad's badge on the ground in front of him, when he was about to fight Cort left-handed, and before his fight with Kid, you could hear it in his voice when he pleaded one more time for Kid to drop out.
I know just how Herod feels.
My son challenged me in Mortal Kombat XL.
Afterwards, his mother looked at me like Sharon Stone did here. I told her the same thing, “I gave him a way out. He refused to take it.”
Wasn’t your fault! You did all you could 😂
Sometimes pain is the best teacher
@porpetassassina7 When my family plays, I'm not allowed to fight. Because i'm way too fast for them
🤣
Same here my son and daughter found out the hard way on mortal Kombat X
First time I watched this, my mom walked in at the beginning of the scene and said, “is this where he kills his son?” To this day, 25 years later, I say that sentence to her whenever she tries to claim she doesnt spoil movies.
Okay, that is funny. XD
Lmao that sucks man, I'm sorry.
Its not really spoil tho. What else do you expect Herod will do in the scene when the movie runtime still half an hour.
We didn’t have remaining runtimes back then or digital menus showing the schedule for cable. It played with commercial breaks, and I had no idea when it would be over.
Never let her forget it hahahahahah
The town not looting him and respectfully carrying him off. It's all he wanted, respect.
Yea..but respect from his dad
@@joshbeasley2195 he got that too. In the afterlife.
In that moment.. the Townsfolk gave him all the respect that he ever wanted... which is more than I can say for his Father. His Father was a horrible person... through and through!
Um...I think what he really wanted was to not die--"I don't wanna die."
@@DarthTrader707 Pathetic, isn't it? This young man has just been shot, and fatally wounded by his own "Father", and then, as he stands there, watching his own Son dying, he makes an absolutely horrid remark about his own Son, saying that "It was never proven, that he was his Son".
This "Mayor"...or, rather, this Tyrant that owned that town, took 50¢ out of every Dollar from everybody, with his Henchmen doing his dirty work for him, wasn't as altogether killed by the Lady, there near the end of the movie. You see-He was already dead, inside of himself. His true soul was long-gone. He was, as far as I'm concerned, an empty shell of a "Man". He cared about no one...only Money. He was a greedy old churl, that finally got what was coming to him, we hen he was shot and killed...first having been shot through the heart, then the fatal bullet smashed straight through the right eye, and tore into his Brain with the force of a miniature Cannon. He was dead before he hit the ground!
3:16 love how the announcer lets out a heavy disappointed sigh when he sees Herod was still alive.
I never noticed thanks
The great Gene Hackman giving acting lessons to young DeCaprio and Crowe in this memorable neo-western!
You can tell that Herod knew and respected how fast the Kid was that he took no chances to try and disarm him, like he did with Ace or Sergent Cantrell. He aimed right on the torso to make sure he won't miss unlike the Kid who overestimated himself and aimed for the head.
Yup. Had the Kid aimed lower, for the chest, the shot would have killed.
Shows the difference between a Civil War vet (Herod's implied backstory), bandit, and gunslinger, and a quickdraw tournament fighter. One knew how to draw and one knew how to kill.
The Kid aimed high because he didn't want to kill his dad. Herod aimed for center mass because he is a bastard who wouldn't share the spotlight with even his own son. If he had shot to wound, he could still have beat the Kid and taken him in as his successor, but that's not what Herod wants.
Only in movies do gunfighters try and "disarm" their opponents. I feel certain that in no actual gunfight was this tried. But if it ever was, the one who tried it ended up dead right after.
@@davidhoekstra8671 This is no actual gunfight, this is Mortal Kombat with guns. They all basically have superpowers, they just boil down to "draw quick and shoot precisely". Except for Ace, his superpower was being fabulous. Harod has it in him to shoot an opponent anywhere he likes, as evidenced by the previous times he did that in the movie, often just after turning around very quickly.
The kid only wanted his respect. How is he going to get that with Herod being dead. One could argue he intentionally just wounded him, and didn't even try to kill him.
Sterling performance from young Leonardo. Watch closely how he died. Tears flowing out of his eyes and he's gone. Makes you feel really sorry for him.
First time I ever saw Leonardo was this movie when it first came out in theaters. I remember thinking, this kid's a good actor!
Leo has always been great, but for some reason I think he used to be better when younger.
The very last thing he does in life is reach out for his father.
This is why Oscars don't matter.
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 Opposite of myself. I used to think he was a brat when he was younger and I even made fun of him. He grew on me as he got older.
@@0doublezero0 I actually did too, but after he started getting all the hype with his Scorcese flicks I started watching his earlier films and I think he has more range in those imo. He still is a great actor, but he kind of has a schtick nowadays, kinda like 90s Pacino.
This fight is so good. The Kid was right he probably is just a hair slower than he used to be, but he got cooky. The Kid went for the head Hackman went for center mass so he knew he wouldn't miss. Since he went for the head, Herod threw the kids aim of by a hair. since Herod's bullet hit first. If the kid went for center mass. Thet both would have probably died. Also, up until now, nobody could touch Herod in speed, but the kid was almost just as fast. Showing just how fast the kid really is. The town probably knew this and thought the kid was their only hope.
Always best to go center mass
Cooky indeed
It's plot armor. If Kid did the common sense thing, the movie would have ended 40 minutes earlier.
Like Wyatt Earp said "Always shoot him in the dick". Seriously. Look it up.
But Russell Crowe was actually the fastest draw in the movie. Which is why Gene Hackman handicapped him…
This scene makes me think of Herod and his motivations a little bit. He doesn't want to kill the Kid, urging him to drop out. And then, after he shoots him, he feels the need to justify himself to the Lady, saying "He wasn't mine."
I think he's motivated by unconscious self-hatred. He's a cruel, mean-spirited guy, and it's earned him great success and prosperity. But it's also left a void in his life that he has no ability to fill. He hates what he's become and feels powerless to change it.
That's why he does the quickdraw duels. He tells himself he just gets a thrill out of the life-and-death stakes. But the unconscious truth is that he wants somebody to kill him. It's the only "retirement" he can afford at this point.
And it's also why he refuses to claim the Kid as his own, even in his last moments. Because it means he would have to take responsibility for the Kid. And that's something he just can't let himself do.
Am I saying Herod's a sympathetic character? Of course not. He's a villain, plain and simple.
But Hackman, I think, adds a level of depth to his villainy.
Doesn't he say, "It was never proved that he was mine. He was a farmer. But, he was mine." This is the one element of humanity that they actually give Herod.
@Stefan Arndt I looked up the script. The line is "It was a farmer that... He wasn't mine." Like, he started to say something and then just reiterated his point.
@@aaronmehaffey6251 Hmm. That changes the movie a lot for me. I thought they actually allowed him to feel something, right there.
Hackman nails the character. Absolutely nails it.
@@StefanMArndt Regardless of the dialogue, the way Gene Hackman delivered the lines definitely shows the character did feel remorse in this scene.
Ever since that kid lost a ticket to the titanic in a poker game it’s been downhill ever since for him
he won it he didnt lose it.
Actually...he won that hand, and the tickets in the pot. I'm sure you just mis-typed.
I guess he truly wasn't king of the world.
@@MrCrazychristian86 Yup, instead, he's at the bottom of the Atlantic.
@@cooldbz12mach1padilla Considering what happened, I'm not sure "won" is the right word.
I feel like the music doesn't get discussed much with this movie... Great scores all around!
Love the song that plays when Kid walks out!
That beginning dialog Leo had was awesome. You knew he was gonna be huge
...then he became a WHINY LITTLE BITCH when he got his sorry ass shot down!!! 😏 3:41
This was a good movie , not many like this still being made.
Brilliant.
How the scene change from Kid's POV to Kid's facial expressions.
Each POV change the facial expression.
Brilliant.
Probably the best scene in the film. The fact that the Herod character respectfully asked the kid to drop out so things wouldn't end the way they did is a very strong character moment. He clearly didn't want to kill him but at that point there was no other choice.
Yup, asked a few times too, and didn't trash talk him to get into his head like he did Ace and Cantrell.
There was another choice, one he didn't see and neither did you.
I grant, it's not obvious.
Herod could have dropped out.
His ego wouldn't even consider it.
So he did have a choice, and he chose to kill his son(?).
@@Battlefield_And_Vibe_Music Bullshit.
If someone steps up to you with the intent to kill whether in a competition or not, you have the right to defend yourself even if it's your son. You can ask him to back down like Herod did though.
@@Archedgar
Bulltrue.
He wasn't "stepping up to kill him."
It was a competition, one that Herod could have forfeited if he really wanted to save his son.
Acting like he had no choice is just that.
@@Battlefield_And_Vibe_Music Nope. Feel free to keep trying to pretend otherwise if you want, fef. It makes no difference to me.
...you know It's going to be a real good movie when Gene Hackman is in it!
And you know its worth watching when Sharon Stone is in it!
@@scottishwomble1988 for reals pal 😜👍🏾
@@scottishwomble1988 especially if she gets her muff out
And even his more mediocre movies, he's still excellent in them.
I love how the lead up music tells a story in itself.
“I gave him a way out, he wouldn’t take it” I wonder how many fathers understand that all too well.
trash father you are then. :)
I knew a guy who used to say things like that, needless to say he's divorced and it doesn't look like his kid misses him.
@@robburr4751 I knew a guy who used to say things like that. Needless to say his son didn't take it and OD'd.
@@bad74maverick1 most likely turned to drugs in the first place because his dad was a dick.
@@Bamzy Lol no asshat, girlfriend turned him on to it. Dad kept trying to clean him up, she'd hook him so he'd stay. In the end she got him killed and she got jail time.
According to legend, on set, the actors actually had a quick draw contest and Gene Hackman (Herod) actually won.
That’s because he had the least screen time so he had more time to practice
Likely, Hackman is from an earlier generation of Hollywood when westerns were more common, and actors were practiced in quick draw in anticipation of being cast in westerns.
Case in point, Jerry Lewis was a quick-draw officianado. And Sammy Davis Jr. was a phenomenon.
@@ashcarrier6606 that’s actually an interesting point too makes a lot of sense
They could make a remake with Alec Baldwin...
Sounds like complete bullshit you just made up
I adore this movie. It's such a guilty pleasure. The right amount of cheese, done intentionally. A movie that knows what it wants to be and is all in.
Second only to Death stalker II! :)
Yes! This is how good movies are made. Know what you are making, and stick to it.
You can have powerful scenes like this, even in a cheeseball of a movie, if you embrace and love what you're making.
My sentiments exactly, and very well put.
EXACTLY
Shout out to all the bystanders standing directly behind Leo DiCaprio’s character. 🤦♂️
that was my first thought as well XD
No doubt! Great seats I guess.😂
That’s cause they know Herod doesn’t miss
@@Dmon3k you've heard of an exit wound? Where does the bullet go upon exiting...?
@@michaels5217 I’ve also heard of bullets not exiting, and having to be removed through surgery so….
I ain't old and you ain't half the man I am
Always gets me 😅🤣
The kid was gonna be a shrimp boat captain... Instead he died right there on that street in the town of redemption
The Lady: What do you want?
The Kid: All i want is... a cranberry juice.
Epitome of stupid, stubborn pride. Watch the background, Herod drops his hat and breaks down for a second and one of his men catches him.
Good spot, dude. 👍🏻
wow, Ive seen this a thousand times and Never caught that
Had to go back and watch after I read this.
Just seen this. Does the dropping of the hat symbolize a sign of respect?
@@perfectshave85 I thought so, do you remember how he smiled like a proud Dad should when Kid took out Scars?
4:21 Like any villain you love to hate. He knew exactly what NOT to say !! Very good script writing by a legendary actor & at 4:34 you can tell that Lady wanted to kill that S. O... even more
Quite an honour to be killed in a showdown with a Gene Hackman character. Course, he was well accustomed to buying it himself, but not until he'd put the fear of God into everyone as a soulless, pitiless badass.
This is exactly like the time when I was a kid and my father bet me I couldn't carry a whole bundle of shingles up the ladder in 10 seconds.
I shouldered the giant bundle and had just about reached the top of the 20' ladder when he kicked the ladder out from under me, sending me toppling to the ground, breaking my collar bone and wrist, and dislocating 3 vertebrae.
Haha... Dad was always joking around like that.
That sounds like a fuzzy memory by Jack Handey
Dude what the actual fuck, if this is a true story that makes your father a very cruel and abusive individual. Sorry, but that isn't right. Not only did he seriously injure you but he could have killed you. That's so messed up.
Every boss knows it should only take 9 seconds to get a bundle on the roof, whatever the height!
@@theamazingadventuresofjohn it was a joke on the way that herod treated his kid
Hahahahah wtf
"what can you possibly get out of this? what do you want?"
"an oscar"
That’s all a son wants from his Father is “Respect” and any Father that has raised his boy right gives it to him when he becomes a Man….. I wouldn’t have drawn my pistol
The sad fact is that, in his way, Herod gave The Kid his respect...just the only kind he knew. Herod was a killer and a gunfighter. The Kid was the only fighter Herod gave a legitimate chance to drop out, in a tournament that was kill-or-be-killed. He was also the only fighter other than Cort that Herod didn't taunt, chat up, or small talk with prior to, or during, the fight. Herod's respect wasn't kind, it was cruel. His respect was the gun. It was all Herod had known, and sadly seems that it was all the Kid knew too.
@@samuelzuleger5134 deep.
“That boy ain’t mine.”
- Herod
Well yeah, he’s the bad guy
You being the father, or the son?
One of the best death scenes I have ever seen. Bravo Mr. DiCaprio!
Guys if you slow down the clip from 2:48 to 2:51 you can tell that when herod draws it takes him a full second to draw and shoot but when the kid draws it takes him a half second to draw and shoot, so the Kid was RIGHT. He WAS faster but he just aimed for the head, and lost.
Moral lesson of this story never overestimate yourself. Respect the enemy as always.
This gun fight was over before it even started… Another day kid, another day.
What do you mean, that it was over before it started?
Stray thought: The Kid didn't know about the click before the strike, but Herod did.
He was the only person in the whole town that truly loved him and he killed him.
This movie is so good… and Gosh darn it this is how you make a movie that has a cool heroine. Not like the way they do it today where it is god awful
Sharon Stone should have told Leo about the trick with the clock. That extra split second would have allowed Leo to win the fight.
He knew about it.
@@struttux5156 I don’t think so. They both drew their guns the second the minute hand hit 12, not on the click a split second before. Had The Kid drawn on the click and not the strike of the hour, he could have won.
@@Thundarr100 It might just be the camera making it look slower than it was
@@struttux5156no he didn’t. Just herod, court and ellen knew from this.
@@miaeinhornfederzd Do we know this?
Lady knew about the click before the chime. Why she didn't say about it to Kid?
I always thought it was interesting Herod raised The Kid even though he wasnt his biological son. It ended up causing so much grief for the both of them. Makes me wonder how many times Herod told him he had the hands of a farmer.
He should not have humiliated his son
Damn it Leo. First the Titanic now this. sheesh. lol
Dies in the desert. Dies in the ocean.
Alot of kids make the mistake of not taking a prents way out until they can do on their own. This scene hits me real different now.
"I don't wanna die"
Now I know what else Spiderman watched in infinity war.
He wasn't Harrod's kid, he was Calvin Candy's kid. Probably good that he never knew his father, who made Harrod look like a nice fellow in comparison.
Where did u find that
A deal ain't done until the two parties shake hands.
Best plot twist ever 😂
@@erysilva5808 It's a joke.
@@OpenMawProductions 🤦🏾♂️ lol
Love Gene Hackman, such a good actor. I mean they all are in this but yeah even though he's horrible in this he actually makes you feel he's remorseful in this scene, great stuff.
if anyone remembers red dead revolver back on the ps2. this is what they used for reference for the showdowns at the end of the game. the kid the liar and the boss at the end
Old man ask for the rules
Kid state the rules "no hands only head."
Kid shoot miss a little inches in the head.
Old man shoot in the torso.
Me: "*visible confused intensifies*" ahhh did I miss something.
He should have wore a steel plate like Marty McFly.
DiCaprio should have 10 Oscars for dying by now.
If you're not ready to die, don't duel.
Makes sense here, he's a stupid kid with talent. Not old enough to appreciate death for what it is.
Why didn't the Kid use the Smith & Weston with the trigger guard removed as he and Jessie James agree it's the finest gun ever made.
It probably didn't shoot straight 😂
It would be cheating
Those dutch angle dolly zooms... classic Raimi.
This is the scene that keeps me from re-watching this movie
If that was a neck wound, his left jugular vein would most likely be pulsating with an endless stream of blood. But then again, it is FOLLYWOOD.
it was only a scratch
Where’s Sharon ?
Knowing what we know about her Character now, I can see how much that "I want his respect" comment hurt.
Unsaid "You want his respect"?
Granted that the quick draw was a fabrication of novelists and Hollywood, I sure do love me a good gunfight scene :D
Yo, that's Commissioner Gordon!
The problem was that he aimed at the head. And missed only a centimeter. If he aimed at the torso, I think they both would have died.
Hard to believe it took almost a quarter of a century later for this kid to get an Oscar.. DeCaprio been a high teir actor all his life
One could almost interpret Herod's distain for the Kid, based off his regret at killing him, as being repulsed at his only son pursuing his outlaw lifestyle rather than moving on.
That or Herod's a damned psycho.
I remember watching this and thinking, "that guy playing the Kid will never amount to anything in Hollywood." Turns out, I was right.
Hahahahahaha
Every son no matter how prideful. Wants to deserve his father’s respect, first and foremost
No! I never had a Father so Idgaf!
I don’t, couldn’t give a fuck
@@ccptube3468 you had a father but weren’t raised by one but any father figure you would want their respect no matter what you may think
@ C. Galindo
That’s not YOUR call to make, you arrogant prick. Not every person in this world got to have a stable/safe relationship with their father/father figure. Some people legit don’t need the approval of some perceived father figure, no matter what YOU think.
@@domanskikid ok calm down there buddy. Staying bitter shows that you really needed a father figure to help structure you better. Get helpd if you’re damaged that much and it’s impacting you that badly. There’s therapy for that these days, you know?
I just noticed. After the hired gun dies. His son challenges Herod. The entire town is so happy for him.
How many onlookers are standing directly behind the shooters? 🤣🤣🤣
Leonardo di caprio y gene hackman súper actores …….👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
4:02 Doing his best Joffrey impression
If the kid knew that Hackman had been practising his quick draw for months & was the fastest gun on the set, the kid would never have challenged him. 🙄
I hope I am not the only one that gets the impression this movie is like a "Street Fighter Game" only with guns. A bunch of random characters with all sorts of different backgrounds here to show what they are the best character in the game.
The Kid was the town’s favored son
Best western ever
People make movies because they don't want to be forgotten. But they soon will be
Herod was faster..did the kid slack because he was his dad? Regardless the kid would have killed him but Herod's bullet threw his aim off when it hit him.
You know, what makes everyone really think you're that fast, is being that fast.
DiCaprio is already such a solid actor at this age.........
If the whole town hated the guy, why not everyone draw down on him? He might be fast, but he ain't fast enough to take on everyone, nor could he even try. He only has six bullets.
Fear will do that to a person.
@@Wooley689 That and an army of gunsels he has bought.
Twelve, two guns and he can use both hands. Plus his henchmen with rifles.
he has a lot of goons and the people have no guns
It subtle but he looks at his girlfriend and reaches for her before he does the same for his father. It looks like losing his connection to people is hurting him more than the bullet wound.
Wait how does a gut shot instantly kill him like that?
Those big ole 250 grain bullets from that saa do their job very well so internal bleeding doesent take very long
Your aorta travels quite a distance close to your spine. There’s a lot of arteries in your body where you’d die very fast. Including in unexpected places, like your thigh and shoulder
This is what almost always happens to people in reality with a bullet wound. Only in a movies people with a bullet in the abdomen read to other characters of the essay for 40 pages.
the kid didn’t lose. He just didn’t want to kill him so the shot wasn’t lethal. Herold was scared of the kid speech and decided to focus intensely with all he had. That’s why he didn’t laugh or say something when the kid made the speech
The only thing that destroys the concept is the fact that Cort would have challenged Herod. He would have screamed it all night long after the first day.
The kid is not wrong about age catching up to everyone. If he had lived another five to ten years and then duelled him he probably would have won. As for Harod. Of course he is slowing down. We can see how fast he is here and that is with a lot of miles on the clock. Imagine him at 21 in his prime. Guy would have been unstoppable
What's in kid's mind is typical American mentality: i want to get you but i don't wanna die. Hell no, cocky guys often die💀
This dynamic is so f'd up. "All I want is his respect."? Seriously? He's clearly a psychopath and doesn't respect anything or anyone. I guess it were different times back then. Meaning, that is, that folks was different.
It was his father. Every boy wants his fathers respect as they come of age.
Yeah it's still the same way today except we don't duel in the streets
Such a fire movie
Swiss cheese stores combined dont have as much cheese as was in this movie :D
That is the most useless doctor ever btw. He can't help Kid, thought Spotted Horse was already dead, etc...
A hero rises up to try and take out the bad guy! That’s what I think every time I hear the song start to play as he leaves his shop!! On a side note I’ll love just for a day to live in that time period.
As cheeses as this movie is Leo made this scene heartbreaking
Shit that was fast lol dude did way better than I would of quick drawing like that and getting off an aimed shot takes an insane amount of training and discipline.
Kid should have teamed up with Django after his biological father Calvin Candy was murdered and took some lessons and he might have beaten Harrod, his stepdad.
Is it just me, or are Sharon Stone and Leonardo DiCaprio really THIS similar to each other? 4:32
La película es buena,grandes actores, haber si la suben completa
I don’t understand. Was he his son or not? After his death Hackman blurts out something unintelligible leaving me still unsure… hmm 🤔
He says "I gave him a way out. He wouldn't take it." Meaning he probably knew he WAS his son. This is the only time we see Herod making excuses for his behavior in the whole movie.
He said his mother was from a farm he owned.
Großes Kino ! 👍👍👍👍
During the movie DiCaprio was seen dating a 2 year old...
Herod missed the only chance he had to prove he had a heart to lady, and proved he deserved what would happened to him after.
2:37 - 2:50 Sam Raimi camera zooms,so distracting. When someone says they watched a Sam Raimi movie all I think of is the zooms.
This is like what if Darth Vader killed Luke Skywalker....
Very possible in Empire Strikes Back
@@NinjaBuddha503 I will say this again, Herod's ego ruined everything, imagine how much better his life would have been if he acknowledged Kid? He was literally proud of how easily Kid took Scars out. He knew deep down, but he was holding the anger from his wife cheating. I bet he was getting some on the side too, LOL 🤣
I think he was sad mostly because killing kid was such a waste of talent @@jthomasaustin
@@struttux5156 it was much deeper than that, look at the scene where Ellen was at dinner and he mentioned Kid's mother, when Ellen asked where she was then, as Herod's replying "I told you, she was UNFAITHFUL", the second that last word came out he violently cut into the apple he had been peeling gracefully for their entire conversation. Herod also repeatedly asked Kid to drop out of the contest, and he wouldn't be disgraced for doing so, a courtesy no other gunfighter would receive. If all Herod cared about was Kid's "potential", he would have recruited him just like he did Cort. there were only three times in the movie that Herod was actually worried, of course at the end when Ellen throws her Dad's badge on the ground in front of him, when he was about to fight Cort left-handed, and before his fight with Kid, you could hear it in his voice when he pleaded one more time for Kid to drop out.
I don't think it was only that but as a famous gunfighter it would've hurt a lot@@jthomasaustin
This was a strange Western even by modern standards. About the most unrealistic.
Westerns are romantic in their very nature. They’re not supposed the be realistic.
Sam Raimi is stylistic. Not realistic
I can’t believe a movie was unrealistic…
@@johnochiltree1170 how dare they make things up
I fucking love this scene. So much to unpack here.