He was awesome in Priscilla, so I've decided to look into more of his work. I'm impressed. He seems like a great guy on top of being an excellent actor.
Guy is correct ... as an Aussie, we look at this film and we see Colonial History, NOT a Western ... but the tag Western is attached because Americans can only relate to it through the prism of their own films that cover similar content.
Other than place, what is the huge difference between the two? America had it’s fair share of convicts transported in colonial times. I believe they made up approx 15% of immigrants to the American colonies. In fact, it was only because of our war for independence that Britain started having to send all their convicts to Australia. Our histories aren’t all that different.
@nctanner Colonial themes are those of colonial Australia - they range from transportation of convicts to the colony ( Not American ) - struggles between the native Aboriginals and the British powers and freed settlers ( Different to America ) - do we have time for an entire history lesson? Go read up on Australian Colonial history - then watch the film and then understand that America and Australia are not the same place. Enjoy!
It might be the man featured briefly, Damien Fowler. The Chant of Jimmy Blacksmith isn't widely known outside of Australia though I agree he could have done a bit of research first. I enjoyed that film when I saw it.
@@blixem59 Its widely known to anyone who is serious about cinema. And in the context of The Proposition and considering that Tommy Lewis is actually in it its a glaring error. Also odd to say the least that even Guy Pearce seems unaware of this.
@nctanner Go spend time with the National Film Archives of Australia - Australia was making Colonial themed films in the silent era - as usual you think that because you've made 50 years of Westerns that that is the Archetype for the world outside the U.S ... no it isn't, there are worlds and cultures that exists independently of yours. Australia is NOT the U.S or the Wild West it's the Outback, we have our own stories. Go learn about our Bushrangers, Ned Kelly he was NOT a Cowboy!!!!
@Rikitocker Right. Cheers. So all of the themes that exist in Westerns but with Australians and in Australia. So setting is the main change? And the history is different, of course. I do need to read up on the history of your island. All I know is that a bunch of criminals arrived, decimated an entire population and never learned to explain themselves properly. Also, they apparently think all english speakers who aren't them must be American.
@Rikitocker Jesus I'm sick of this. If the Colonial had come around before the Western and invented the genre, then you would be right. But it didn't The western invented the genre. Everything that happens in this movie is working from archetypes that the American's created in the western. If not, just tell me: what does the Colonial do that the Western hasn't. And don't say setting because this is an adult conversation, eh?
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Beautiful film. Truly amazing.
Best Australian film ever!!!!
Wake in Fright...?
This movie is brilliant and the soundtrack one of the greatest musical bits. Thanks Nick!
The Proposition is great, so is Nick Cave.
He was awesome in Priscilla, so I've decided to look into more of his work. I'm impressed. He seems like a great guy on top of being an excellent actor.
Loved this film and this is a cool interview. Nice One!
its unbelievable how different he looks between the proposition and lawless...unrecognizable
+Tati D A chameleon for sure.
That movie was phenomenal on all levels
My all time best film
Love to see this film!!! Love Australia!! But alot of the themes of Aussie films are very similar!!
Nick Cave has a GLORIOUS stache that needs to make a comeback
Why is Guy Pearce not the most worshipped actor ever? He's fucking awesome. I don't get it....
Probably - to use the shamefully obvious answer - because he isn't even nearly one of the best.
The voice is deeper.
Charlieee
Right!
Better than the restt...Guy is!
@Effy966 I always think of him as Mike from Neighbours!
It's called in media res learned that in AP English
Guy is correct ... as an Aussie, we look at this film and we see Colonial History, NOT a Western ... but the tag Western is attached because Americans can only relate to it through the prism of their own films that cover similar content.
Other than place, what is the huge difference between the two? America had it’s fair share of convicts transported in colonial times. I believe they made up approx 15% of immigrants to the American colonies. In fact, it was only because of our war for independence that Britain started having to send all their convicts to Australia. Our histories aren’t all that different.
@nctanner Colonial themes are those of colonial Australia - they range from transportation of convicts to the colony ( Not American ) - struggles between the native Aboriginals and the British powers and freed settlers ( Different to America ) - do we have time for an entire history lesson? Go read up on Australian Colonial history - then watch the film and then understand that America and Australia are not the same place. Enjoy!
Of course they aren’t the same place - but the similarities are very strong.
He isn't, he was born in Ely, Cambridge (England!) :-)
One of my favourite films.
It's superb.
Other Aussie westerns include Mad Dog Morgan, The Tracker, The Legand of Ben Hall and Sweet Country
krashdown102 right at the start of the interview he sort of has an American accent and then switches to an Australian one 0:50
He looks a bit more like Mike in real life
Who is the narrator-interviewer? Has he really never seen films such as The Chant of Jimmy Blacksmith!??
It might be the man featured briefly, Damien Fowler. The Chant of Jimmy Blacksmith isn't widely known outside of Australia though I agree he could have done a bit of research first. I enjoyed that film when I saw it.
@@blixem59 Its widely known to anyone who is serious about cinema. And in the context of The Proposition and considering that Tommy Lewis is actually in it its a glaring error. Also odd to say the least that even Guy Pearce seems unaware of this.
@nctanner Not even close - but that's all we could hope for. Enjoy!
Mad Max film (Aussie) "in this blighted place......"
The Proposition (Aussie) "in this god forsaken place"
Where did you think he was from?
Lol, didn't know Guy Pierce was Australian.
@nctanner Go spend time with the National Film Archives of Australia - Australia was making Colonial themed films in the silent era - as usual you think that because you've made 50 years of Westerns that that is the Archetype for the world outside the U.S ... no it isn't, there are worlds and cultures that exists independently of yours. Australia is NOT the U.S or the Wild West it's the Outback, we have our own stories. Go learn about our Bushrangers, Ned Kelly he was NOT a Cowboy!!!!
@Rikitocker Right. Cheers. So all of the themes that exist in Westerns but with Australians and in Australia. So setting is the main change? And the history is different, of course. I do need to read up on the history of your island. All I know is that a bunch of criminals arrived, decimated an entire population and never learned to explain themselves properly. Also, they apparently think all english speakers who aren't them must be American.
Look for the book “The Fatal Shore” if you want an interesting read about colonial Australia.
I don't think Susie will allow it lol
@Rikitocker Jesus I'm sick of this. If the Colonial had come around before the Western and invented the genre, then you would be right. But it didn't The western invented the genre. Everything that happens in this movie is working from archetypes that the American's created in the western. If not, just tell me: what does the Colonial do that the Western hasn't. And don't say setting because this is an adult conversation, eh?
I'm aboriginal so that rasict
Pardon? Are you drunk? How can a film be racist anyway? Only a character in a film can be racist.