How Do We Explore the Nature of Consciousness?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- A discussion proposing an experiential way to explore the nature of Consciousness.
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Rupert Spira is a gift for true seekers, especially in the western world. thank you for sharing your Knowing Rupert, peace and harmony.
Eli Efraimov I agree with you 100%
I don't agree with "especially in western world". He is gift to everyone who can understand English.
Sad to hear
He is absolutely a gift and most people aren't even AWARE of it. Too bad!
For the rest of the world as well for, it seems, none ever even try to undertake any similar his job like...+++👍👍👍❤️
A revolutionary man. Or rather: Awareness disguised as a revolutionary man. Thank I.
Using conventional language to "go beyond" can have humorous results😎
Too good!
Wow. Rupert keeps blowing me away. Sweeping me across the table of my believed existence and off the edge into...
Thank you, Rupert for your profoundly clear and direct pointing :-)
Speechless. So, so thankful for your existence Rupert, dont have enough words to express how thankful I am! Your knowledge, your humbleness is priceless. Thank you Universe for such of Gift, Rupert!!
Dejar Rupert. You aré a real master. you put it so clear, so simple that you do not give a chance to mind to interfere. A Big Thank You
We are the universe aware of itself, literally.
Awareness is simply awareness :)
This man is AMAZING!... thank you so much for this great guidance Rupert!
this is one of my favorite rupert videos. truly inspiring.
Question 1: Awareness, what is your experience of yourself?
Question 2: Awareness, do you ever experience yourself appearing or disappearing?
Question 3: Awareness, do you ever experience a limit in yourself? Do you have an edge of boundary?
Question 4: Awareness, do you ever come into contact with anything outside of yourself?
Question 5: Awareness, have you ever aged?
Can awareness be made an object to whom these questions can be put forth to?
@@SuperstarSridhar ask awareness
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Doesn’t work for me…
My understanding is that Awareness can never be made an object, and I will let it remain that way.
When asking one question to Awareness fails, how do I go about asking five questions?
@@stagingsuccess9260 A counter question to you…
You asked me to ask awareness
Who is the one doing the asking?
@@SuperstarSridhar remember Spira’s point, ‘who’ isn’t a thing (person), ‘who’ is the doing. ‘I’ then appropriates related doings as the doings of the I. There is asking, but no one / no entity / no ‘thing’ behind the asking.
Truly inspiring and so simple to understand. Thank you so much Sir, You are Great.
How well the Master is taking us deeper and deeper. To say Thank you is too less a word.
Spira is the most eloquent teacher i encountered. To explain in this way something that is so difficult to describe with words is simply remarkable and it brings the spiritual teaching a few steps closer to the western audience. Thanks.
I'm so relieved that we're here to figure this stuff out. Imagine if there wasn't a puzzle and we're just put here to eat and sleep and pass life onto the next one..
I've said this at 59..still feel Inside that I'm childlike at times but also wiser like a twenty something young adult. Hope that makes sense..lol
Wow. Just so deep and clear and beautiful thank you
These videos and his book are soo underrated and need to get out there
Abe Lewis which book title?
This man has absolutely rocked my world !!
There is value in having to pay full attention in a silent room in order to hear Rupert. On the other hand if recordings of his teachings were at a higher decibel level, I could move about and still hear him.
This is the best......my deepest gratitude 💐🙏
Why is his voice so soothing?
I guess I was in "I Am" when I was on the other side of the veil? Or what I used to call a veil. No wonder everything was perfect! I was in a safe entity, me! The vision. The vision I had was also what stands out. Thank you Mr Spira.
Thank you dear Rupert.. 😍👏🙌🙏😍 Love n regards from Tiruvannamalai..
so thankful for your mission..for your being. god bless you
His teaching are so precious but I always have to put these talks in 1.2 speed . God give me patience !
even my thoughts about self-inquiry are not my own. they too just appear. it seems the only attribute i have is being aware
Exactly.. you sait it
it took me 4 years to understand this experientially
When the brain will stop,awareness will remain
Much love to spira
Beautifully articulated 👌
inspiring ..... easy to follow.....very much aligned with Course in Miracles...
Well, Awareness cannot logically experience its own disappearance, because experience implies awareness.
Presence is fresh and new always
From my perspective the problem is most people dont understand the difference between "Consciousness Awareness" the Knowing or Awareness of experience, timeless and infinite, never started, never stops, and the "Content of Consciousness" being thoughts, sensations and perceptions, objects we are aware of, which indeed is an emergent phenomena, a bain process, information processing etc etc.
Make this difference as big as possible, by taking more interest in "Consciousness Awareness" rather than the "Content of Consciousness".
The problem is most people are lost in their thoughts, lost in the "Content of Consciousness", not spending more time looking at that Awareness that Witnesses the experience of being lost in their thoughts. They wrongly belive they are their thoughts, sensations and pereceptions. They see all the objects in a room but dont consider the space that allows all the objects in the room to exist! Then they also wrongly belive if we destroy the objects in the room, the space that contains those objects is also gone. Pity them.
Abide in the Awareness more and more, and see what happens.
Offcourse if you have a unsubstinated belief that this "Content of Consciousness" is also brain produced, is also an object in the "Content of Consciousness" , and stick to that then its never ending suffering.
Thank you!
Thank you. The volume is too low.
...and he speak too fast!!!
So you will listen 😉
I finally got it 😂❤️ Thanks Rupert 😊
Brilliant,Very inSpirang
Yes, and isn't even imagining something outside awareness, IS awareness. Surely?
Awareness of one's self validates the entanglement of energy particles between our consciousness and the outer universe.
.....Why not just cut to the chase and acknowledge our loving Creator, God...?
Is "what can you NOT be aware of?" a good question to explore the infinite nature of I,Awareness?
Best one
14:06 Beautiful
Maybe our material existence and the painful things, we can encounter, the suffering would be less painful and maybe we would not be in a position to attract pain? If we were continually in touch, at peace with the eternal world.
just cos awareness can't have and don't have any experience of not existing, it doesn't mean it is always present. when it disappears there is no awareness to notice its own none existence.
Edster awareness has never disappeared! Awareness is eternal. It is not subject to time and space which are only of the mind.
Of course awareness is always present...
bugger, everyone else knew about this years ago, I'm catching up though. Many times I have said, I feel like 20 years old inside.
Awareness
Consciousness is seen as everything including you and me and exists without everything including you and me just as clay is seen as all pots and exists without them.
Consciousness is associated with “Thinking” and is independent of “Thinking”.
This thought is understood only by Consciousness.
I disappeared under anesthesia and when I sleep. My awareness is non existent during those events. Unless I dream. Then I am aware while in my sleep.
Every time I wake up from sleep - is experiencing appearing of awareness - out of nowhere?
Sound volume is too low. Need to improve qualities and regularity of sound.
Wow
It's good
I've never understood this line of questioning. If you imagine that awareness does come from the body and does die and go away the answers are still the same. As a conscious beings we never perceive anything we don't perceive. If we "go away" at sleep or at death we won't be there to know it. Knowing that awareness can't know it's nonexistence doesn't tell us anything about it's nature. This seems so obvious (that you get the same answers whether awareness is everything or if it springs from the body) I don't understand why Rupert never addresses is head on.
You are still coming from the body mind perspective. But that is not what your are but only an experience you are having. What you really are is that what is having this experience: infinite conciousness perceiving itself. This is the first thing you need to understand.
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I am aware of my thoughts, I am aware that I am aware - How does this help me pay my bills or feed my family??
it doesn't.
it stops you worrying about it though.
It won’t help with that at all.
If you are American thought, voting for Andrew Yang will help with that! Now you are aware of him lol
Once you become aware of reality then the life experience becomes a glide rather than a struggle. In self awareness there is peace and joy. There is non resistance and non judgement. There is no longer good and bad hard or easy. Everything is just as it is. The world of form is then viewed as a play that you are experiencing. You don’t mind what happens in each moment or scene. You already know the ending, which is there is no end- just a dissolution of the body mind.
"Do you, awareness, ever come into contact with something outside of yourself?" There is new "stuff" appearing in awareness, "stuff" I have not previously been aware of. Otherwise the question boils down to the tautology "Are you ever aware of something you are not aware of?" Linguistic problem?
+Simon Woods You are right. That state is what or where the language fails. Thoughts like a river can be tracked and at the estuary one starts loosing the track and at the river mouth the identity is lost yet it has not become the ocean. Many who track get confused from the estuary a sense of achievement and stop the tracking. Once you have merged with the ocean there's no further tracking. The droplet, that you are, which was expressing as thoughts, river or life, was the river and also the ocean until the merger. The merger is for the onlooker and not for the droplet. It was, is and will be always in essence the water at all onto of time. One can use metaphor but no metaphor is the exemplified. That's why the language fails. Because there's only one Consciousness reflected in every existance as both Consciousness and Existence.
Linguistic problem for sure Simons, but not easy to explain : whatever appears is not an object, it is awareness itself. The screen you are looking at, the words you are reading right now, they are not made of matter or light, they are coming to you "as" awareness, and so is everything else : the mind trying to understand, the mind trying to explain, awareness is the raw material of all that appears, whatever the shape, the colour, whatever the stuff it seems to be made of, it can only be awareness. Un-awareness never appears.
Simon Woods There is no new "stuff" that enters into awareness.. everything is known and perceived by awareness, just not self-reflectively so. For example, you know that you are breathing, but you are not self reflectively contemplating that fact until it is placed into the sphere of self reflection.
You're not talking about awareness, you're talking about the property of self reflection.
Tyrone Slyce Isn't Awareness the "experiencer" of everything but still, everything that is experienced is WITHIN the Awareness and never outside of the Awareness?
1981andybt I'm a substance monist/monistic idealist.. So, Awareness is everything, but awareness is not chairs, or just a single sub-atomic particle, (because sub-atomic particles aren't ''things'' perse, they are the mental activity within consciousness. An activity can be embodied, but it cannot be consciousness itself). Just like I would say that we aren't the brain, we are merely incarnated within the activity, that is the brain. A good way to look at this is to say that the universe is God's brain, but not his awareness. There is no sense in which you can be the universe in of itself, it can merely be embodied as a unified, process of disassociated awareness within mind. The medium in which those things exist, we are the essence of this awareness.
So, during the climax of a successful self-enquiry (''who am I?'') why can I still observe the world (sensory perception) throughout?, this being that Rupert claims the world is observed through the mind (a thought) which ive allegedly, albeit momentarily, collapsed into its source ('awareness) therefore, again, why can I still observe phenomena during self - enquiry? Thanks
I've heard many of his videos and in some of them when he says "mind" he refers to all perceptions, sensations, thoughts, sounds, taste etc... Hope this helps!🙏
So even when thought relaxes into it source. Your sensory perceptions may be active if your eyes are open. You are just pure experiencing at that moment with no labels etc.
we came into this world with nothing and we leave with nothing!
I ether get it and always have or don’t. I just can’t grasp it. I can’t feel what he’s saying as anything significant. I have seen the ones where he says waking up is nothing special. Maybe I’m woken but I’m just totally non plussed by it. I don’t know.
I think I'm having a bit of an ah-ha moment here at I think 10:20 in the video when Rupert asks if anyone has ever experienced anything outside consciousness and I had been wondering, well, wouldn't the dark room next door in which I've never gone count as outside my consciousness? Yes, but I haven't experienced that room. I think that's my breakthrough here. What about that room? Well, who knows. I'm not responsible for being aware of it if I've never been in it. The burden of proof is on the materialists. Who says there's even a room? Just because it's implied, who's to say it's not an implication of consciousness. The materialists are the ones who believe--with a religious fervour, frankly--that there are all these rooms in the complex (!) that are made of matter and are just waiting for us willing little materialists to go exploring. I'm not prejudiced against matter per se--some of my best friends are made of matter--but as far as I know matter is no more than an experience inside my awareness. Also, I love Rupert's oft-repeated question: have you ever experienced your non-existence? And no offence to Jehovah, fact is in my consciousness I have no more beginning nor end than the Big J Himself. Whoah. I'd like to pass the buck back upstairs, but it looks like after all there's no one more responsible for the world than this consciousness of, well, of mine. To be honest, Rupert is like the dark room. I hadn't heard of him until a fortnight ago. He's so good, however, that if he didn't exist, I'd have to invent him. Heh heh and also not heh heh.
I only have 1 question. and that is 'how do we explore the nature of consciousness",? 🤔
Eli Jenn watch again :)
Eli Jenn
down the pub,over a few pints. ....😂
Ask questions : dimensions, age, born, temporary, ...
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12:36 aging
you can’t leave awareness of the here and now the moment is now !!! you only know what is going on in the now fact !!!!!!
Drink a shot every time he says 'awareness' or 'aware'.
im on the floor
Would appreciate if someone can help me on the first question, "Are you awareness?". Consipual, I know I am awareness. But, I can't experience....,,😙🙄🙄.
I have seen a lot of videos including this one & read books, but in vain ..!!
So pl some body...give me some pointers ...Thanks in advance...
You are experiencing yourself as awareness right now! You can't have possibly experienced yourself as anything else.Do you believe that you are the body? And that your consciousness was born just like Shiv's body and will die eventually with Shiv's body?
Look up mooji, he walks you through, that may help you. I simply ask myself, "Are you aware?" You'll notice in that very awareness, a sense of spaciousness, an intangible quality that is not a physical object, but it is something, feels like nothing....after a while you'll notice that field of space is still, and it is always the same in that it is unchanging and permanent. you can come back to this awareness any day, any month, it will be the same, while the outer world has changed. Even if you sense that "awareness," for 15 seconds at first, come back and abide in that spaciousness as much as possible, after a while it will grow and you'll see that it is more real that your world (thoughts). Your world changes, the awareness is untainted, unmoving, permanent. Buddha said what is permanent is real, what changes is illusory.
Just ask yourself,first:
'Am I Awere?'
Pause as much you need and Wait until the answer downs in you,clearly:'Yes'.
Than,ask yourself again:
'Am I Awreness?'
Wait and SEE for yourself the Answer
@@ommeditationmind1554 sir what happens to awareness in deep sleep or under anaesthesia?and Im a beginner in this....I am a schizophrenic...what's ur advice for me
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All that you have to do to explore the nature of consciousness is to look at it through an electronic microscope.
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It’s as probable that my personal consciousness will survive the death of the material body that I inhabit, as it will be that the personal consciousness of an alligator will survive the death of the material body that he or she inhabits.
@@user-ld9sl9ko7g I suggest that Jordan believes his personal consciousness is at one with the consciousness of his personal image of a an all-powerful GOD.
“I act as if God exists, and I’m terrified he might.” ~ Jordan Peterson
“I was Jordan Peterson’s strongest supporter. Now I think he’s dangerous. He wanted to establish a church, he said, in which he would preach every Sunday.” Author … Bernard Schiff … professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Toronto.
But what about lets say a computer. The computer runs and I shut him off (like a human going to deep sleep). After some time I turn the machine on again. The computer doesnt know anything about that time in between. He could not collect data. For him its like when humans wake up after annesthesia. They were not aware because they were shut down.
But what if I completely destroy the computer. Its again like shutting him down. He cant collect any data. He is not aware. But now he will never be aware again. The computer is completely gone. Destroyed.
I dont understand how it should be different for humans.
After my body is dead i will not be aware like in deep sleep but how can I ever be aware of something again now that I am no more?
I am annihalated...
Maybe its true that you reincarnate in another body again.
Then "you" will be aware again till the next death. It would be an endless chain of experiencing life because you are not aware in the time from death till birth. That time in between doesnt exist for one self.
But why should it then on the other hand be good to break through that endless cycle of life. If I cant experience something any more, be aware of something or just be.
If i wont be reborn i wont be aware any more. So I am truly dead. Dead like in a materialistic kind of philosophy.
Does anyone have a good answer?
An answer from own experience?
Sorry for the bad english.
You have to understand that "you" don't exist in the first place. Who you think you are is an illusion. Your true nature doesn't go anywhere.
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Why the hell do you need to explore the nature of consciousness?
kekfuszal so you don't spend the rest of your life living in the prison of self you currently live in. So you see your true nature as unlimited and boundless. To experience true love and freedom.
To know who you really are
Why the hell would you run after all these things and objects the phenomenal world seems to offer, without giving a single thought to that, what believes to need things so desperately. 😘
You don't need to do anything.
Speak slower!!!
Thank you!