This scene was actually scary for me because it did what any good horror movie does and put stuff in your head for YOU to make your own scary ideas up with.
@@joooooonasssss Allow me to put my two cents into what they may be talking about. The way the skeletons are propped, along with the abundance of cobweb, it implies that everyone in there all died unexpectedly at the same time, presumably from the same thing, and somehow remained undiscovered for decades. That's spooky enough in it's own right, but what does it potentially say about the residents of the hotel? Perhaps it's implying that all the ghosts died around the same time period, presumably by the same unknown malevolent force potentially occupying the hotel, and none of the deaths were connected. Of course, the explanation could be much simpler than that. Perhaps it's just saying that Wendy, unlike Jack, is seeing the hotel for what it really is. It might even be just a simple scare and nothing more, but considering how film leaves out any explanation as to what's going on, it makes sense that people are going to speculate and wonder if there's a deeper meaning behind these scenes.
Kubrick removed 30 minutes from the film after it debuted to mixed reviews in the US and had it released in Europe in the shortened form. The 2 1/2 hour version is the one that has always been released in the US. It has this scene, four more with Halloren, a scene with Danny and a doctor, multiple scenes during the tour of the hotel and later of the three in the hotel. There are 20 shortened or deleted scenes all together. There's also an extended ending that just recently played in New York
@@gyobfan22 There actually exist surprisingly many photos of the removed hospital scene on the Internet, and they are even in fairly sharp colour; I have seen photos of Grady entering Wendy's room, Wendy looking at Grady while he sits by her bed, Danny playing around by himself in front of the reception desk, as well as him holding a tennis ball. Try searching for "original ending the shining" on Google Images, and you will find them. It is ALMOST enough to give you a good feel for how the scene played out, along with the script of course.
If you look close enough before she looks in the room, it’s the same photos that are across from The Gold Room. I wasn’t entirely sure my first time watching until the ending confirmed it. I like to think those skeletons are also the same people Jack saw during the ball in that room when he had that drink and talked to Delbert in the bathroom. Can’t really see any other correlation as to why they’re there.
so people don't like this scene because it was corny? I swear Wendy never saw the party in 'live' form so it's creepy that she has such a different, almost more real, vision to Jack no?
Corny sounds subjective as I don’t think of it that way at all. Up until this point Wendy had been trying to keep the family together despite Jack’s increasing anger and Danny’s mysterious circumstances for months. She’s at her breaking point too, and in her greatest moment of disparity sees the evil in the hotel while desperately trying to find her son. This scene is actually terrifying to me (note terror) as you really don’t know what to expect. Meanwhile her husband is searching with an axe and her son is running for his life in the freezing cold. Corny, riiiight
It's not in the European release, but is in the (longer) US theatrical version. So whether or not it's a "cut scene" depends on where you are in the world.
Maybe it's just me, but I find this one of the more unsettling scenes, despite the gothic horror. Just showing how evil and unnatural the hotel is and how it harbours the dead. Maybe there could have been a different way to show that?
I loved it. Because it strips away the party that we have in our mind, the one that Jack was in. And confirms that those guest were not just jacks imaginations but are ghosts , because these are their skeletons
@@henryivan6858 It confirms nothing, since she could be hallucinating as well. What did confirm that they were real, was that Grady opened the pantry door. No one else could have done it.
@jacktorrance9688 yeah well with this movie, anybody can be hallucinating, or Wendy killed Jack and placed him in the freezer, which later became the pantry and she imagined everything because she is a ghost story and horror movie addict and maybe she's crazy because she has an anormal amount of books in her apartment, etc. But at least, the skeletons is a direct callback to Jack in the party, who at the moment there was still a possibility of being in his mind and reaffirms that they were ghosts, similar to seeing the Grady sisters a few times but then seeing them on the floor with the axe
The way the scene ended up, I don't really mind that they cut it from the European version. However, if it was done in a different way, I really think it could have been an amazing scene. I also think the scene would have benefitted from being a bit longer. And instead of only skeletons, they should have had corpses in different stages of decomposition, with all of them looking at her or something. It would have to be done in a realistic and detailed manner though, and I understand that it would be quite the challenge and very time consuming as well.
Perhaps the hotel had already absorbed him by then Jack's body was never found in the maze either when they searched the Overlook hotel they were going to mention in the deleted hospital scene.
I read that apperently the director thought Europeans were smarter than Americans so a shorter version without this scene and others was released, but the Americans needed a longer version that had extra scenes to help explain what was going on. I think it's kinda funny actually.
This scene was in the original American release. I remember seeing it in the theatre when it first came out. I read that Kubrik later cut some other scenes out for the UK release...
@Trolllkarl it is, because there are two releases, the international release and the us-release (24 minutes longer)^^ and you saw the us-release, kubrick left the scenes out for the european version, coz he thought, they wouldn't need added scenes to understand the story.
In a deleted scene that took place during the ballroom party, some of these skeletons would have been seen along with guests (ghosts) who also had injuries (que "great party, isnt it" guy)
Some people watch this movie backwards and find some hidden message. But I have a different idea. What about watching ONLY the scenes that are deleted from UK version? Maybe those scenes form a totally different story when they watched in order?
Well I don't know how it is on VHS, DVD or Blue Ray, I only ever saw the film on TV here in Germany and this scene was never shown there, I was only allowed to see it here on RUclips 2 days ago
My theory of The Shining, (from this scene), is that the Overlook Hotel had shut down many decades before Delbert was the caretaker, and everyone there (in the beginning) was a ghost too, including Stuart Ullman. However, my theory may not be correct, but it would be a good theory.
@Trolllkarl Originally it was cut for the European release as well as the scene with the Dog man. It's also cut from television to save time. But your right, it's not a deleted scene.
this scene definitely should have been deleted, the scares in The Shining were of the creepy, twisted and sexual variety, and the ghosts were sinister well-mannered 1920s characters, it was NEVER a "skeletons and cobwebs" style gothic horror, which is the category that this scene falls into.
Stanley Kubrick himself though the edited version of the film was better. The only scene I think he could have kept is the ony in which Jack mentions to Lloyd the bartender that staying sober for all these months has brought him "irreparable harm".
This scene was in the film when I saw it, first run, in a theater. (Back when the word "theater" was properly pronounced with three syllables, rather than with two, so that it rhymes with "skeeter.")
Good thing they cut away this scene. It was a bit too cheesy. The other evil apperations are scary because they're eerie, unpredictable and uncanny. This looks like something off a children's movie.
I've never seen this scene before! I've always watched the Shining on TV, mainly on Turner Classic Movies or HBO, I don't know why they aired the European version, tho 🤔 (maybe it's a running time matter?)
Actually you watched the US version. That version is around 146 minutes in length. For the UK release, Kubrick cut out almost 30 minutes of the film... going down to 118 , give or take. The skeletons scene, Danny's doctor scene, various TV sets shots, the Halloran call to one his friends, asking for a Snowcat... and many others were cut out. And all wise choices, in my opinion. The movie got way better...
Recently saw this scene at a screening. I didn't remember it from my first viewing. If it was originally left out, it was rightly so. It's a very weak and corny visual with no place in this film.
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This scene was actually scary for me because it did what any good horror movie does and put stuff in your head for YOU to make your own scary ideas up with.
? the scene is showing the horror, what are you supposed to come up with?
@@joooooonasssss Allow me to put my two cents into what they may be talking about.
The way the skeletons are propped, along with the abundance of cobweb, it implies that everyone in there all died unexpectedly at the same time, presumably from the same thing, and somehow remained undiscovered for decades. That's spooky enough in it's own right, but what does it potentially say about the residents of the hotel? Perhaps it's implying that all the ghosts died around the same time period, presumably by the same unknown malevolent force potentially occupying the hotel, and none of the deaths were connected.
Of course, the explanation could be much simpler than that. Perhaps it's just saying that Wendy, unlike Jack, is seeing the hotel for what it really is. It might even be just a simple scare and nothing more, but considering how film leaves out any explanation as to what's going on, it makes sense that people are going to speculate and wonder if there's a deeper meaning behind these scenes.
Kubrick removed 30 minutes from the film after it debuted to mixed reviews in the US and had it released in Europe in the shortened form. The 2 1/2 hour version is the one that has always been released in the US. It has this scene, four more with Halloren, a scene with Danny and a doctor, multiple scenes during the tour of the hotel and later of the three in the hotel. There are 20 shortened or deleted scenes all together. There's also an extended ending that just recently played in New York
The extended ending hasn't been seen since 1980. If it had been shown again fans of the film would know about it.
@@gyobfan22It was published on DVD, it’s availiable on streaming plateforms and it’s sometimes showed on TV, so…
@@FoxoFoxo I mean the lost hospital scene that Kubrick cut where Wendy and Danny are seen in hospital after they escaped from the hotel.
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There actually exist surprisingly many photos of the removed hospital scene on the Internet, and they are even in fairly sharp colour;
I have seen photos of Grady entering Wendy's room, Wendy looking at Grady while he sits by her bed, Danny playing around by himself in front of the reception desk, as well as him holding a tennis ball.
Try searching for "original ending the shining" on Google Images, and you will find them.
It is ALMOST enough to give you a good feel for how the scene played out, along with the script of course.
I just hate the longest version
If you look close enough before she looks in the room, it’s the same photos that are across from The Gold Room. I wasn’t entirely sure my first time watching until the ending confirmed it. I like to think those skeletons are also the same people Jack saw during the ball in that room when he had that drink and talked to Delbert in the bathroom. Can’t really see any other correlation as to why they’re there.
They need to fire their housekeeping staff.
so people don't like this scene because it was corny? I swear Wendy never saw the party in 'live' form so it's creepy that she has such a different, almost more real, vision to Jack no?
Yes indeed but it's still a little corny
Corny sounds subjective as I don’t think of it that way at all.
Up until this point Wendy had been trying to keep the family together despite Jack’s increasing anger and Danny’s mysterious circumstances for months. She’s at her breaking point too, and in her greatest moment of disparity sees the evil in the hotel while desperately trying to find her son.
This scene is actually terrifying to me (note terror) as you really don’t know what to expect. Meanwhile her husband is searching with an axe and her son is running for his life in the freezing cold.
Corny, riiiight
Wendy sees the two men in the bedroom one in animal costume. This scene is unnecessary.
It's not in the European release, but is in the (longer) US theatrical version. So whether or not it's a "cut scene" depends on where you are in the world.
Maybe it's just me, but I find this one of the more unsettling scenes, despite the gothic horror. Just showing how evil and unnatural the hotel is and how it harbours the dead. Maybe there could have been a different way to show that?
I totally agree! To me she’s actually seeing what the hotel actually is right here
I loved it. Because it strips away the party that we have in our mind, the one that Jack was in. And confirms that those guest were not just jacks imaginations but are ghosts , because these are their skeletons
@@henryivan6858 It confirms nothing, since she could be hallucinating as well. What did confirm that they were real, was that Grady opened the pantry door. No one else could have done it.
@jacktorrance9688 yeah well with this movie, anybody can be hallucinating, or Wendy killed Jack and placed him in the freezer, which later became the pantry and she imagined everything because she is a ghost story and horror movie addict and maybe she's crazy because she has an anormal amount of books in her apartment, etc. But at least, the skeletons is a direct callback to Jack in the party, who at the moment there was still a possibility of being in his mind and reaffirms that they were ghosts, similar to seeing the Grady sisters a few times but then seeing them on the floor with the axe
@@henryivan6858 There is nothing more in this scene that proves they're real than any other scenes where she sees ghosts.
The way the scene ended up, I don't really mind that they cut it from the European version.
However, if it was done in a different way, I really think it could have been an amazing scene.
I also think the scene would have benefitted from being a bit longer.
And instead of only skeletons, they should have had corpses in different stages of decomposition, with all of them looking at her or something.
It would have to be done in a realistic and detailed manner though, and I understand that it would be quite the challenge and very time consuming as well.
It shouldn't have been cut! Its a good scene!
I remember this scene in the film actually.
0:06 Hallorann’s corpse should be there
Perhaps the hotel had already absorbed him by then Jack's body was never found in the maze either when they searched the Overlook hotel they were going to mention in the deleted hospital scene.
I read that apperently the director thought Europeans were smarter than Americans so a shorter version without this scene and others was released, but the Americans needed a longer version that had extra scenes to help explain what was going on. I think it's kinda funny actually.
This scene was in the Brazilian original release too
This scene was in the original American release. I remember seeing it in the theatre when it first came out. I read that Kubrik later cut some other scenes out for the UK release...
Legends say the 4k version has this scene. Because even the 1080p 2:23:47 Director´s Cut has the most evil skeletons that ever where cut. ;D
@Trolllkarl it is, because there are two releases, the international release and the us-release (24 minutes longer)^^ and you saw the us-release, kubrick left the scenes out for the european version, coz he thought, they wouldn't need added scenes to understand the story.
It's not in the international edit, but is in the US edit. Both are official versions.
In a deleted scene that took place during the ballroom party, some of these skeletons would have been seen along with guests (ghosts) who also had injuries (que "great party, isnt it" guy)
Some people watch this movie backwards and find some hidden message. But I have a different idea.
What about watching ONLY the scenes that are deleted from UK version?
Maybe those scenes form a totally different story when they watched in order?
This has been in every VHS and DVD release in Region 1. How was this a deleted scene?
Cut outside the us
Well I don't know how it is on VHS, DVD or Blue Ray, I only ever saw the film on TV here in Germany and this scene was never shown there, I was only allowed to see it here on RUclips 2 days ago
My theory of The Shining, (from this scene), is that the Overlook Hotel had shut down many decades before Delbert was the caretaker, and everyone there (in the beginning) was a ghost too, including Stuart Ullman.
However, my theory may not be correct, but it would be a good theory.
uhhh this is not a deleted scene ?
i just watched the movie and its there
@Trolllkarl
Originally it was cut for the European release as well as the scene with the Dog man. It's also cut from television to save time. But your right, it's not a deleted scene.
this scene definitely should have been deleted, the scares in The Shining were of the creepy, twisted and sexual variety, and the ghosts were sinister well-mannered 1920s characters, it was NEVER a "skeletons and cobwebs" style gothic horror, which is the category that this scene falls into.
Except this room has been simply a large ballroom, filled with 1920's socialites now skeletons. It's about the Hotel creating different realities.
Stanley Kubrick himself though the edited version of the film was better.
The only scene I think he could have kept is the ony in which Jack mentions to Lloyd the bartender that staying sober for all these months has brought him "irreparable harm".
You must have seen the European release, this scene was present in the US theatrical release.
It was good decision to cut this scene imo. Thoose skeletons, spiders webs looks like typical gothic horror
I saw this film yesterday in the theaters and this scene was in it
great scene..watched it last night and it isnt in the original
Is this scene deleted in the UK?
@Trolllkarl well you have obviously seen an un edited version the scene was not in the official release.
Isn’t this is the regular version of the film?
It's on the 4K release
This scene was in the film when I saw it, first run, in a theater. (Back when the word "theater" was properly pronounced with three syllables, rather than with two, so that it rhymes with "skeeter.")
this probabaly cut from the UK version. that version is liek 10 minutes shorter
Good thing they cut away this scene. It was a bit too cheesy. The other evil apperations are scary because they're eerie, unpredictable and uncanny. This looks like something off a children's movie.
I've never seen this scene before! I've always watched the Shining on TV, mainly on Turner Classic Movies or HBO, I don't know why they aired the European version, tho 🤔 (maybe it's a running time matter?)
this is in the european version of the film, im guessing cus it's in the shining
I hate that this was cut, this is like the pool scene In poltergeist.
I remember that scene. When was it cut?
Apparently there are to versions of the shining, the European and the US cuts
@@adamcade604 That's a very reasonable and likely explanation.
This scene is superflous.
yeah, I think it was right to drop this scene
There is a skulls?!😱😱😱😱💀💀💀
It's actually cut for time, rather than being as you put it "a very weak and corny visual with no place in this film."
sorry, I see now that others have said the same thing and your comment is a year old.
Actually you watched the US version. That version is around 146 minutes in length. For the UK release, Kubrick cut out almost 30 minutes of the film... going down to 118 , give or take. The skeletons scene, Danny's doctor scene, various TV sets shots, the Halloran call to one his friends, asking for a Snowcat... and many others were cut out. And all wise choices, in my opinion. The movie got way better...
Recently saw this scene at a screening. I didn't remember it from my first viewing. If it was originally left out, it was rightly so. It's a very weak and corny visual with no place in this film.
finally came across this scene..I'm glad kubrick cut it out lol
the right choise, that skulls are ridicolous
I think the reaction shot is the best part, Kubrick could have kept that part in. But yes, the skeletons are ridiculous.