Drake : I’m ok with that being my first loss in a battle Mal: Nah he ain’t lose that battle Lol Mal is every Drake fan in one body 😂 how you gone tell that man he didn’t lose when HE telling you he lost
now that’s crazy 😂😂🤣 pusha’s diss is the best of the decade because he actually accomplished everything he wanted to do and more. He even got Mal sweating for drake
Why Mal doesn't understand that you can't have an in depth honest interview if YOU control the narrative baffles me.....no way he goes on Rogan with his own set crew
I think it’s mainly cause of that mr pump it up comment cause everytime i hear joe Budden and drake in the same sentence that’s all i see 🤣🤣🤣Drake prolly ignites a whole nerve in him for that reason
lmfao every second of that argument im like "joe, just say it was a biased source, joe, jjjjjjoe, JOE STFU AND SAY THE WORD BIASED YOU DRAMATIC SHIT 😂🤣"
Ding Ding Ding! Some of these shows I just want to be there to clear the misunderstanding and keep the convo moving. On these podcast and interviews, they tend to mis a lot of obvious points or arguments to be made
That's not saying much, but I understand what you're saying. On The Shop, I thought Maverick Carter was gonna deep throat Drake right in the middle of the barber shop lol
all joe had to say was Drake putting it on his channel takes the authenticity out of the interview. It makes it looks even more staged and less valuable. Drake was still in control. So was it really and authentic interview?
Mal can't be objective in any discussion that involves somebody he is cool with. Mal by far the most industry on the show.. Why do y'all even ask him his opinion on Jay and Drake? Let's hear more Parks in 2020
Tommy John’s it’s crazy how ppl criticize him for getting bags whether it’s a honest method or not he isn’t the only artist whose took alternate routes he’s getting money gotta respect that regardless
@@verzinghettorix6360 would want somebody taking your invention and claiming it as his own. Bugging them by after he used they shit is not cool. Why not put them on like Shiggy did his song with that dance
which is ironic giving that every career joe's had is him saying stuff but, I think what Joe was getting at is that when drake has so much control of his interview, it can (and will) come off as more like a 2 hour long commercial/promo spot, instead of someone really pressing him on issues. I'm sure mal would argue that's what every interview with an entertainer is.
What Joe is saying, is how are we supposed to believe anything Drake says in a 2 hour in depth interview if it was completely put together by Drake. He could've just given us anything and sold us exactly what he wanted us to hear. Truth or not. He could've had the questions written and answers rehearsed before he even and Rap Radar slated to do it for all we know It adds a big level of hesitance to the believability of it when the artist controlled the entire environment.
Mal saying Drake didn't take a L is crazy. At the same time he said he hated Nas diss track against Jay-z. He pretty much save those he loves ie. Drake and Jay
@@Aemond839 Hes not exactly wrong. Takeover came out first and ended up saying things Nas ended up repeating. Jay was touching on specific things, not innuendo. I still think Nas won the overall battle, but you have to be a stan not have seen that.
How did Mal not understand that interviews become less authentic/lose integrity when the interviewee has a hand in everything? I feel like he went out of his way to not understand that for 10 minutes straight. Tried talking about literally everything but the point Joe was making... Jesus dude
"For the first time...Drake is on other side of the internet...and their jokes." Wwwwhat? Drake is easily one of the first and oldest victims of the meme culture. What is the guy talking about???
Yes when he was the funny looking fresh faced nerd from dagrassi with cool songs he's been extremely untouchable for a while still very untouchable but the pusha situation made him look a little funny in the light amongst a few other things
Yeah he was hated when he signed with young money so the lil Wayne hate slowly but gradually transcended to drake. When take care dropped the memes and the jokes started then mix it in with the Kendrick rivalry, the ghostwriting reveal, the meek victory and the pusha loss and now you got full blown drake hatred.
GotAL2Say it’s more about Mal being a hypocrite. He so quick to point out other men “suspect” moments. And pretend to be so cool. Dude acts like he can’t be vulnerable at all.
"why does he have to be from that to make that type of music?"... Mal on some fan shit right here man, he acting like people haven't been talking about "culture vultures" for the last several years.
Besides Mal receiving his nutrients from Aubrey’s gooch sweat, I love how you can see the red swollen line from Joe’s beard line up before the podcast recording lol
Chris Lopez I sleep well regardless... but as an avid listener of his I felt disappointed and betrayed by that 🤷🏾♂️ that’s not something that someone of his status in OUR (BLACK) culture would do 💯
Chris Lopez BRO YOU GOTTA BE STUPID HAVE YOU SEEN J.Cole MOMS She FULLY WHITE But Yet J.COLE ALWAYS STANDING UP FOR BLACK SOCIETY RIGHTS U ASS SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE THEY BOTH LIGHTSKIN BUT YET YOUU (NEVER) HEAR DRAKE ON TOPICS LIKE THIS BECAUSE HE SCARED OF THE BLACKLASH FROM THE COMMUNITY AS PUSHA SAID IN BIG BOY INTERVIEW WHY YOU THINK HE SAID THE LINE ABOUT TRUMP X JAY Z ABOUT THE FACT JAY AINT GET AN AWARD UNTIL ANNE CAME OUT BEFORE THIS WILL SMITH WAS MAKING WHITE PEOPLE RADIO MUSIC HELL EMINEM WASNT EVEN GETTING NOMINATED AT THAT POINT LOL SO BASICALLY LIKE I SAID DRIZZY SCARED II SHOW THAT SIDE FOR WHATEVER REASON THATS WHY HE HAVE STUPID LIGHT BARS TALKING ABOUT IM LIGHTSKIN BUT IM STILL A DARK NXGGA LIKE WHY DOES HE HAVE TO POINT THAT OUT OR THE FACT HE SAID DONT THINK THE BLACK COMMUNITY PRAISES HIM WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT 🤔 BECAUSE PEOPLE STARTING II REALIZE HE DONT FEEL BLACK GOES BACK II THE LONG 📝 HE WROTE WHEN ADIDON CAME OUT THAT WAS THE WHITE PR GOVERNOR GETS VOTES 🗳 APPROACH & YOU KNOW IT COULDNT GROW YOUR FRO 🤣 CAUSE IT WOULDNT NAP ENOUGH!
to me the interview being on drake's channel says a few things. it completely shows that Drake has more power as an artist than one of the biggest distributors of his music. the fact he can control and own whatever content he puts out and is in that kind of position of power to do so makes me think that in the coming years he might try to start a new wave of music/content distribution and provide a blueprint for the future for more artists to take complete control and ownership of their music/content to reap the benefits of their hard work.
Although all that may become true, artists should have the ultimate say in there art. However, an interview coming out on his how channel just goes to highlight Drake's insecurities since he does need "ownership" over the content thereby bringing the integrity of the interview itself into question.
@@samstone7768 i think continuing to talk about a grown man's insecurities misses the point completely. drake is a business man at the end of the day, and if he can leverage the strength of his brand/image to "own" that content, why would he not do so? that's 5 figures+ of ad revenue the interview has made for him and his team that would've gone to tidal if it was on theres. obviously that isn't much in the grand scheme of things for someone like him, but i'm sure splitting that between a small team of his is way more impactful for say his directors/producers/etc than to split that among hundreds/thousands of employees at tidal. since his name carries so much weight and draws so much attention and viewership, it's just in his best interest monetarily to put it on his channel, i really don't think "owning the conversation" has anything to do with the move. the viewers can look through the bs in the conversation regardless and make opinions themselves and he is smart enough to understand that as well.
When Mal said after an interview with Beyonce he's turning over all his footage.. I understood why Joe was ready to go his separate ways 😂 cause what are you doing the interview for?
Thank you, my thoughts exactly. I hate when Joe jumps off deep ends with his “crazy” or “hot” takes which a lot of times are just poorly disguised hate and envy. Joe, Rory, and a lot of people who simply don’t like Drake live to kill him for every breath he takes.
Lemme say this real quick for folks who think Drake didn't take an L in the battle with Pusha. Ask yourselves this question: Why didn't Drake just ignore Pusha like he ignored Joe Budden? What did Drake think he was going to gain by beating Pusha in a battle? Drake already had all of the sales and hit singles, and beating Pusha wasn't going to make him sell more and chart better as he was already at the top. So, what was Drake going to get for beating Pusha in a battle? He was going to get respect from people doubting his pen after Meek exposed the reference tracks. That was the point. Beating Pusha was supposed to shut everybody up on that front, because Drake responded with Duppy so quickly nobody was going to say that he had a team writing for him. But things didn't go the way Drake planned, in fact, the internet itself turned against Drake for a brief period. Despite Pusha daring him to respond at the end of Story of Adidon, Drake never does. He addresses the Blackface pic on IG, he has J Prince speaking for him and telling people he called off the beef, he's doing interviews, he's subbing Kanye, but he is *NOT* releasing another track to Pusha. That's an L, ladies and gentleman. Because the battle went the way it did, Drake didn't get the respect from his detractors that he wanted. This had nothing to do with sales on Drake's end, as he already had all of that, and he would have been in an even better position if he ignored Pusha like he did Joe Budden. Then he isn't embarrassed by the Black face pic, he can introduce his son to the world like he wanted, he doesn't lose the Adidas deal, he's still cool with Kanye, and he doesn't have an "L" on his resume from a rap battle.
joes point relates exactly to when eminem sat down with sway. it seemed put together. even tho drakes interview might have not looked like that, the fact the it was all captured and edited by his team gives him total control over all aspects of the interview.
They dragged the point of the interview being on Drake's RUclips channel This could've easily been finished with "Drake being in control of the production of his interview means he can take out certain content"
Joe is right...in a interview setting you do not let the interviewee ' produce' the interview...it does not make any sense. The power in that dynamic is skewed...
Mal annoying here Joe's saying why is it posted on his channel PR style? This isn't an interview, that was a 2hr autobiography. Not 1 person called drake out on any specific points.
Mal loves Drake so much it's wired, won't admit pusha t crushed Drake, won't here what Joe is saying about the interview, just loves everything Drake does, wierd
Drake is a dope artist but he's not an innovator, he doesn't start trends or sounds, he adapts well to other people's sounds i.e Kanye (808s), Weeknd, Migos, Future, Afrobeats, dancehall, UK Drill etc.
M 360 __ Andrew Campbell Both of guys are highlighting very, very salient points. Drake is a notable creator. However he does siphon up & coming trends, that may take longer going mainstream. That doesn't diminish the fact he resurrected the rap/singing style. And I choose that word deliberately instead of "revolutionized", because it was a style that's always been here. Drake brought it to the mainstream masses, in a roundabout way towards Hip Hop, because emceeing was always first and foremost.
Andrew Campbell Relax yourself. 40 and Drake built their signature sound that they ran with last decade from 808 and heartbreaks. I’ve been listening to Drake since Comeback Season. 40 said back in 2011 they heard that album and ran with the sound. “Drake reopened the song rap concept” Nope T- Pain, Wayne and Kanye did that, Drake just ran with it last decade. As I said he never started that. Lauryn Hill is the blueprint for singing and rapping on a track at a high level and also doing it throughout an album. Drake never started that. “Every artist you named only blew up when Drake attached his name” I know you aren’t including Kanye who birthed his sound in that statement. But for the others, again he didn’t start those sounds he adapted very well to the sounds that those guys introduced. Why don’t you understand what I’m saying ? Stop being emotional and actually take in what I’m saying. “Emphasised releasing free music to promote an album” So 50 Cent didn’t do that leading up to his Get Rich or Die Trying album ? So Wayne never did that in the mid 2000s ?
That interview was too boring for me to make it through it all. Maybe I just don’t find Drake & his storyline that interesting. I definitely don’t believe his baby mama situation & he’s in denial about a few things. It’s not for me.
Breathe721 It was his attempt at controlling the narrative after being booed at Flog Gnaw and sonned in front of the world. It was basically damage control
Joe saying it was the best, worst interview is funny.. I thought his Nicki interview was exactly that... Hot take: Joe actually doesnt do good interviews
Everybody is weirdly in their feelings in this interview but Joe is completely correct. The Drake interview was great from a fan perspective, but if the subject of the interview has complete control over the production/editing, etc., you have to take the information with a grain of salt for sure. You certainly can't call it journalism if the subject of the report controlled the information.
Dude THANKS TREY. Address IS THERE MORE FROM SCORPIO, not being on YMCMB, “as soon as this album drop I’m outta of the deal, back at the crib playing DeAngelo how does it feel?” What other deal? Bc THAT WAS THE LAST PIECE OF WORK ATTACHED TO YMBMC. So obvious. And you want to know the real??? Bc if you do: RESEARCH THE WALT DISNEY ANGLE. It’s in the same song and subs you can extract from all Walt Disney character catelogs and DRAKE LIED ABOUT IT IN INTERVIEW AND BUDDEN KNOWS AS WELL AS EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT. Talk about Kaping !!!! Colin Kaepernick. Young Walt Disney: Drake Goofy: Wayne Mickey: Kendrick Go read all their lyrics it’s super clear.
Watching this in 2024 and I can't BELIEVE how Budden is trying to speak truth and these dudes are back pedaling and defending Drake until the end. Ugh.
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Drake : I’m ok with that being my first loss in a battle
Mal: Nah he ain’t lose that battle
Lol Mal is every Drake fan in one body 😂 how you gone tell that man he didn’t lose when HE telling you he lost
Lmao
Will Evans Mal lost his damn mind. Drake lost.
Mal is obsessed with Drake
now that’s crazy 😂😂🤣 pusha’s diss is the best of the decade because he actually accomplished everything he wanted to do and more. He even got Mal sweating for drake
The exact reason I cannot stomach stans.
5 mins in ovo Mal already mad.
Tight
Okkkk!!! LMAO! He never looks happy!
Some people are under many mental weights, bravado, pride, swag etc "looking cool".
As he should be.
bruinsfan022 😂😂😂😂
Someone in the lower comments wrote :
“MalBrey”..... 😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️💀💀
Why Mal doesn't understand that you can't have an in depth honest interview if YOU control the narrative baffles me.....no way he goes on Rogan with his own set crew
MannyTwice It’s not even an interview at that point if the person being interviewed is controlling everything. Might as well just talk to ur self
He admitted he lost, what else needs to be said?? Y’all hating when he already faced the truth, he’s still a man with pride at the end of the day.
@@nate8604 not talking about the pusha beef, we talking about the whole interview
@@sanantoballa4834 Yeap. Wasn't it the same with Sway/Eminem?
Drake is one few on Mal’s safe list
He blinks when he talks about people he’s jealous of
Shit super weird how his whole mood changed but he too "cool"
Kickinthescience Drake and Nicki
What's your wrong with that. Alot of people have certain artists on their safe lists. Alot of people dick ride Eminem no matter what he puts out.
@@kimanianderson7099 same for Kanye. Jay too
Take a shot every time mal says “biggest artist in the world” he said it while I was typing this comment
lmao
“It was mad-ologists” 🤣😂
shit was hilarious lmaooooo
😅😂🤣
Mal would let drake smash his queen just off the “he’s the biggest artist of the past decade! He gets to do that”
MrJumpman49 you reaching 💀💀💀
Lmfaoooo
🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
I don't agree with this, but this is hilarious
😅😅😅
Even drake admitted he lost.. just like jay did when he lost to nas.. only fanboys try to rewrite history and move the goal post
PREEEEEEEACH!
We need that unrelease song he had for Push to spark more battles in Hip hop. The battle/ competition scene is dead. 😔
Sparta Lee so he says if you wonna believe that
Exactly
@@yuko1227 that shit aint even real lol
10:20 Mal caping for drake .. the first caribbean ANYTHING we heard from drake was one dance..a song he BOUGHT!!
Romy Taylor Ironically, Drake didn’t write that record either. Kanye wrote it.
Romy Taylor Kanye wrote it with a producer by the name of Jeff Bhasker. They originally wrote it for Rihanna, but later Drake heard it and wanted it.
Take Care?
SanAntoBalla Kayne didn’t write that song.
HussePapito he definitely did. Maybe not the whole thing, but he was a big part of it...producing too
Mal being a clear drake stan right now
Idk man every time Joe discusses Drake he turns into a weirdo lmaoooo.
Jae Raptors it’s called obsessed, trying to analyze his body language and every little thing lol
First thing I thought when I read the title “why is this man still talking about Drake”
I think it’s mainly cause of that mr pump it up comment cause everytime i hear joe Budden and drake in the same sentence that’s all i see 🤣🤣🤣Drake prolly ignites a whole nerve in him for that reason
@@monikalinn nah i think joe actually likes drake
Lol yea that back n forth he had with mal was weird asf
They argued for 20 minutes, when all they had to say that there was a conflict of interest with drake producing the interview.
lmfao every second of that argument im like "joe, just say it was a biased source, joe, jjjjjjoe, JOE STFU AND SAY THE WORD BIASED YOU DRAMATIC SHIT 😂🤣"
Exactly lol low vocabulary
Ding Ding Ding! Some of these shows I just want to be there to clear the misunderstanding and keep the convo moving. On these podcast and interviews, they tend to mis a lot of obvious points or arguments to be made
De Waarheid Sus
@@dewaarheid5447 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"y'all getting married to a point" - joe budden
Joe “Y’all Getting Married To A Point” Budden
Bruh mal snapped on joe lmaoooo
Nigga BODIED Joe lmfaooooo
He might've snapped on him on tidal the next day but idk bout here
9:19 OVO Mal entered the chat.
This was a better interview than that shop interview
Merrin Thomas these drake interviews are barely interviews , they’re more like a drake platform for publicity
That's not saying much, but I understand what you're saying. On The Shop, I thought Maverick Carter was gonna deep throat Drake right in the middle of the barber shop lol
@@MichaelBrown-ti1un 😭😭😭
Mal has his cape boots and underoos on for this one
ASavageProduction joe’s got the haterade in his cup as well
Well according to his mans ... "I use to Save hoes with a mask and a cape"... 😂
Mal looks like a miniature Malcolm Jamal-Warner 😂
Malcolm JaMal 🤣
D Skinner facts
😂😂😂😂
all joe had to say was Drake putting it on his channel takes the authenticity out of the interview. It makes it looks even more staged and less valuable. Drake was still in control. So was it really and authentic interview?
Exactly. He's just caught up in the moment
It was on tidal the next day
No
He tryna eat off that interview like tidal would
He’s trynna eat off that interview if you ask every artist if they want it on the biggest channel they would
Mal can't be objective in any discussion that involves somebody he is cool with. Mal by far the most industry on the show.. Why do y'all even ask him his opinion on Jay and Drake? Let's hear more Parks in 2020
Parks is the most objective person on the pod.
don't forget Nicki Minaj...
Is Mal even cool with Drake tho?
The Dragon's Weapon. That’s why he’s my fav
Pre Law Lol he’s “Ovo Mal” for a reason
Mal is clearly in love with Drake🤷🏾♂️
Joe tryna kill they romance 🤣😂🤣
And nicki minaj as well
Drake producing his own Barbara Walters’ type interview is crazy. Lol
Mal's tryin' to drink from Drakes lower half for real!
Yooooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂
sheesh 🤣🤣
Fam lol
Yoooo😂
Bruh! 💀😂😂😂😂
More Life was lowkey a roll out for his UK/European Tour
LOW KEY??? Maaaannn American weren’t tryna hear SHIT from U.K. before that. Give him credit. They made that food from Scratch but he delivered it.
garyfiasco1 HIGHKEY
G Bullock agreed. And put Uk artists on. It isn’t just Europe either, like the Mideast fucks with him too.
@@GBullockNC all facts
Mall leaning so far back he's chilling with the Christmas tree while they're doing a podcast 😂
72vince27 Does he realize that this is his job?
@@Ssl-yq8qq
His a big dude so he gotta lean back looking sleepy and lazy lol
Virginia Slimm how many times you got to comment? Dayum
Selfish Stockton fr
Joe: I don’t want an interview that’s produced , directed, written by, edited, scored by the artist
Mal: it was on Tidal too tho
😂😂😂😂
Will Evans listening to that whole section was pretty frustrating
Tidal had the interview up First for like 3 days before it went to RUclips
Like the Eminem/Sway Interview 😕😕😕
@@marie_84 mhm
Mal is a supreme CORNBALL
... a supreme CORNBALL who tries, desperately, to act too cool and unaffected by everything.
and a ovo stan
@@RationallyMe 100% you can tell he tries to hard
Facts
Take a drink every time mal says “drakes the biggest artist in the world”
mad drunk 😳😨😩
I'm drunk
I’m gone
Drunk as fuck
He is tho lmao
mal been dickeating drake his whole career lmao
hkane10 *unbiased and logical*
Dude seriously 😂 like Drake hasn't traveled taking bits and pieces of others vibe and musical talents smh
Isaiah Jones what’s wrong with that though? He’s always big up those artist from those cultures
Tommy John’s it’s crazy how ppl criticize him for getting bags whether it’s a honest method or not he isn’t the only artist whose took alternate routes he’s getting money gotta respect that regardless
@@verzinghettorix6360 would want somebody taking your invention and claiming it as his own. Bugging them by after he used they shit is not cool. Why not put them on like Shiggy did his song with that dance
Segments like this really illustrate how Rory is Joe’s sidekick
Rory the Ginger Wonder
They can’t have the same opinions?
He is the number 2. Mal was hardly on the show back in the day.
Jacob Trimble nah Rory saw what happened to Mari with his own eyes
It’s not as bad as it used to be. The perfect example is the taxstone interview
Holy shit Mal really loves Drake
The whole video Mal's face is just like "naaah"😂😂
Joe made some points he’s just bad at explaining himself
which is ironic giving that every career joe's had is him saying stuff
but, I think what Joe was getting at is that when drake has so much control of his interview, it can (and will) come off as more like a 2 hour long commercial/promo spot, instead of someone really pressing him on issues. I'm sure mal would argue that's what every interview with an entertainer is.
@@losgryfog joe budden is the Implication King
The words Joe was looking for was "creative control".
All joe was tryna say is Drake was controlling the narrative by having the footage .
@@losgryfog reminds me of the Interview of Eminem/Sway....seemed so staged...
Mal makes it hard to believe he's a 80s baby.
Y’all call him OVO Mal, I call him Industry Shill Jamil
Joe's therapist is the actress from the show I Love Lucy?
Latreal Pollard RIP
I thought I recognized that name
Is that real? What's going on ?
the nicki interview refutes all of joe's points lmaoooo
blackops13132 exactly
Yes!!!!!!
Drake admits he lost the battle with Push and his stans still say he didn't lose lol
I think you need to go back and listen to what he said.
Everything Salty he said he lost, he said he chose to loose but an L is an L you can make any excuse you want. He lost.
@@MrRumbleBeee It's not a real L if I let you win
@@TheDavy3 lol I heard him clear the first time
@@milano6422 huh lmaooooo
What Joe is saying, is how are we supposed to believe anything Drake says in a 2 hour in depth interview if it was completely put together by Drake.
He could've just given us anything and sold us exactly what he wanted us to hear. Truth or not.
He could've had the questions written and answers rehearsed before he even and Rap Radar slated to do it for all we know
It adds a big level of hesitance to the believability of it when the artist controlled the entire environment.
Mal saying Drake didn't take a L is crazy. At the same time he said he hated Nas diss track against Jay-z. He pretty much save those he loves ie. Drake and Jay
To be fair , Ether is kinda wack compared to takeover .
@Romy Taylor Eh , I always liked Hovs shit better. Theres no hard bars on ether , in my opinion. Nothing really landed for me .
@@henrychinaski5938 🤣🤣🤣🤣stay off the drugs when typing gee
@@Aemond839 Hes not exactly wrong. Takeover came out first and ended up saying things Nas ended up repeating. Jay was touching on specific things, not innuendo. I still think Nas won the overall battle, but you have to be a stan not have seen that.
@@andurilan you gotta stay off the drugs too gee🤣🤣🤣. I can't believe my eyes right now. I just can't
Drake took a Pusha T L.... That's what he needed to clean up lol. I'm still listening to this but Mal said he didn't take a L. My guy is trippin
Facts
How many millions has he made since he supposedly "took an L"? Y'all should take the energy you use focusing on dumb stuff to improving your own life.
Jermaine He took an L but bounced back, that’s the difference. Just accept it and keep it pushing, he did and he’s cool with it.
Drake out barred Pusha on the diss track. Pusha just spilled tea like a female on on Story of Addidon
Luke Times drakes bars where useless on duppy y’all drake stans are annoying 🤦🏻♂️
Mal & DJ Akademics are Drake's #1 groupies lmao
“There was mad-ologist” 😂😂
How did Mal not understand that interviews become less authentic/lose integrity when the interviewee has a hand in everything? I feel like he went out of his way to not understand that for 10 minutes straight. Tried talking about literally everything but the point Joe was making... Jesus dude
The word they were looking for was “propaganda”
Bingo.
Mal is such a drake Stan
yea shit sad. someone should let him know he wont be signed to ovo.
sk8kidize everyones a fan of somebody yall just corny
Chris Lopez being a fan is one thing, being a Stan is another.
And you're such a Joe Budden stan
oh oh .yall woke up the drakians.. yall done messed up now. lol... gtfoh
Is it just me or is MAL being like extra bitter and defensive in the last few podcasts? He seems so irritable lol
It’s a facade
Jeramy Martinez it’s annoying
"For the first time...Drake is on other side of the internet...and their jokes."
Wwwwhat?
Drake is easily one of the first and oldest victims of the meme culture. What is the guy talking about???
That part
Yes when he was the funny looking fresh faced nerd from dagrassi with cool songs he's been extremely untouchable for a while still very untouchable but the pusha situation made him look a little funny in the light amongst a few other things
@@gustavojackson6864 Well, this dude here clearly said 'for the first time' so....
those "Drake the type of nigga to call his homie just to tell him he missed his voice" memes were legendary
😂😂😂 foreal
14:00 Mall still hot Joe said he Cape'n
exactly man can't even enjoy the positives of life lol
Me: Mal! Drake smashing your queen
Mal: HIS THE BIGGEST ARTIST IN THE WORLD!!!
This is why I like Joe Budden, he's unbiased and he even likes Drake
OVO Mal got the rifle ready just waiting for any Drake diss lmao "But what did Drake need to clean up?"
If a artist edits his own interview it means his hiding something or they don't want to be ask something they are hiding
Take a drink every time Mal says “biggest artist”
He’s the pirate of the Caribbean 🏴☠️
😂😅😭
😂 😂 😂 😂
6:05 drake is always on the other side of the internet. It's been happening since take care.
Fam exactly! He was the most hated for along time because he would sing and rap. Now we praise him for it
Yeah he was hated when he signed with young money so the lil Wayne hate slowly but gradually transcended to drake. When take care dropped the memes and the jokes started then mix it in with the Kendrick rivalry, the ghostwriting reveal, the meek victory and the pusha loss and now you got full blown drake hatred.
The Song Joe was talking about was called “Heaven or Hell”
Thank you
Hey you guuyys 😊 Mal is like really sensitive about Aubrey.
Mic Vensa it’s so annoying, Mal and Rory will always ride drake 🤦♂️
Drake was an actor before rap that’s why he is so good he can read scripts , memorize them and act them out just like with his music
Reem Meer if anything that just makes him a better artist
@@ggkizzy but also a better liar !!!
@@marie_84 that hit real close to home. That's why pusha said he's only about 1 thing: and that is "good". Drake still undeniable the goat
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
So we not gonna talk about mal having his nails painted
I’m surprised NOONE is talking bout that
GotAL2Say it’s more about Mal being a hypocrite. He so quick to point out other men “suspect” moments. And pretend to be so cool. Dude acts like he can’t be vulnerable at all.
"why does he have to be from that to make that type of music?"... Mal on some fan shit right here man, he acting like people haven't been talking about "culture vultures" for the last several years.
Besides Mal receiving his nutrients from Aubrey’s gooch sweat, I love how you can see the red swollen line from Joe’s beard line up before the podcast recording lol
He addressed EVERYTHING but the black face thing🤔
Swizzy Mac right
Swizzy Mac would it help u sleep at night if he did?
Chris Lopez I sleep well regardless... but as an avid listener of his I felt disappointed and betrayed by that 🤷🏾♂️ that’s not something that someone of his status in OUR (BLACK) culture would do 💯
Chris Lopez BRO YOU GOTTA
BE STUPID
HAVE YOU SEEN J.Cole MOMS
She FULLY WHITE
But Yet J.COLE ALWAYS STANDING UP FOR BLACK SOCIETY RIGHTS U ASS
SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE
THEY BOTH LIGHTSKIN
BUT YET
YOUU (NEVER) HEAR DRAKE ON TOPICS
LIKE THIS BECAUSE HE SCARED OF THE BLACKLASH
FROM THE COMMUNITY
AS PUSHA SAID IN BIG BOY INTERVIEW
WHY YOU THINK HE SAID THE LINE ABOUT TRUMP X JAY Z ABOUT THE FACT JAY AINT GET AN AWARD UNTIL ANNE CAME OUT
BEFORE THIS WILL SMITH WAS MAKING WHITE PEOPLE
RADIO MUSIC
HELL EMINEM WASNT EVEN GETTING NOMINATED AT THAT POINT LOL
SO BASICALLY LIKE I SAID DRIZZY SCARED II SHOW THAT SIDE FOR WHATEVER REASON
THATS WHY HE HAVE STUPID LIGHT BARS TALKING ABOUT IM LIGHTSKIN BUT IM STILL A DARK NXGGA
LIKE WHY DOES HE HAVE TO POINT THAT OUT OR THE FACT HE SAID DONT THINK THE BLACK COMMUNITY PRAISES HIM
WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT 🤔
BECAUSE PEOPLE STARTING II REALIZE HE DONT FEEL BLACK
GOES BACK II THE LONG 📝 HE WROTE WHEN ADIDON CAME OUT
THAT WAS THE WHITE PR GOVERNOR GETS VOTES 🗳 APPROACH & YOU KNOW IT
COULDNT GROW YOUR FRO 🤣
CAUSE IT WOULDNT NAP ENOUGH!
Papi God Nuff said my brotha 💯👏🏾
Roc Marci is a G.O.D. in hip hop
to me the interview being on drake's channel says a few things. it completely shows that Drake has more power as an artist than one of the biggest distributors of his music. the fact he can control and own whatever content he puts out and is in that kind of position of power to do so makes me think that in the coming years he might try to start a new wave of music/content distribution and provide a blueprint for the future for more artists to take complete control and ownership of their music/content to reap the benefits of their hard work.
Although all that may become true, artists should have the ultimate say in there art. However, an interview coming out on his how channel just goes to highlight Drake's insecurities since he does need "ownership" over the content thereby bringing the integrity of the interview itself into question.
@@samstone7768 i think continuing to talk about a grown man's insecurities misses the point completely. drake is a business man at the end of the day, and if he can leverage the strength of his brand/image to "own" that content, why would he not do so? that's 5 figures+ of ad revenue the interview has made for him and his team that would've gone to tidal if it was on theres. obviously that isn't much in the grand scheme of things for someone like him, but i'm sure splitting that between a small team of his is way more impactful for say his directors/producers/etc than to split that among hundreds/thousands of employees at tidal. since his name carries so much weight and draws so much attention and viewership, it's just in his best interest monetarily to put it on his channel, i really don't think "owning the conversation" has anything to do with the move. the viewers can look through the bs in the conversation regardless and make opinions themselves and he is smart enough to understand that as well.
You called it
When Mal said after an interview with Beyonce he's turning over all his footage.. I understood why Joe was ready to go his separate ways 😂 cause what are you doing the interview for?
Mal was tight lmao
Usually people who are wrong making dumb ass points are
"They killed everything he said on The Shop."
You mean YOU killed everything he said by having Pusha T in for an interview a few days later.
if that's what helps you sleep at night
Thank you, my thoughts exactly. I hate when Joe jumps off deep ends with his “crazy” or “hot” takes which a lot of times are just poorly disguised hate and envy. Joe, Rory, and a lot of people who simply don’t like Drake live to kill him for every breath he takes.
Emmanuel Chirume You can’t read people of you think Joe hates Drake. He’s literally a stan in disguise.
As street as Mal comes off from time to time, he takes pride in “caping” for Drake.
Are Mal’s nails painted red/green?? Lol, homie spent waayyy too much time in LA.
Lemme say this real quick for folks who think Drake didn't take an L in the battle with Pusha.
Ask yourselves this question: Why didn't Drake just ignore Pusha like he ignored Joe Budden? What did Drake think he was going to gain by beating Pusha in a battle? Drake already had all of the sales and hit singles, and beating Pusha wasn't going to make him sell more and chart better as he was already at the top. So, what was Drake going to get for beating Pusha in a battle?
He was going to get respect from people doubting his pen after Meek exposed the reference tracks. That was the point. Beating Pusha was supposed to shut everybody up on that front, because Drake responded with Duppy so quickly nobody was going to say that he had a team writing for him. But things didn't go the way Drake planned, in fact, the internet itself turned against Drake for a brief period. Despite Pusha daring him to respond at the end of Story of Adidon, Drake never does. He addresses the Blackface pic on IG, he has J Prince speaking for him and telling people he called off the beef, he's doing interviews, he's subbing Kanye, but he is *NOT* releasing another track to Pusha. That's an L, ladies and gentleman. Because the battle went the way it did, Drake didn't get the respect from his detractors that he wanted. This had nothing to do with sales on Drake's end, as he already had all of that, and he would have been in an even better position if he ignored Pusha like he did Joe Budden. Then he isn't embarrassed by the Black face pic, he can introduce his son to the world like he wanted, he doesn't lose the Adidas deal, he's still cool with Kanye, and he doesn't have an "L" on his resume from a rap battle.
ElectricB hell yea and infrared vs duppy was damn near neck to neck
joes point relates exactly to when eminem sat down with sway. it seemed put together. even tho drakes interview might have not looked like that, the fact the it was all captured and edited by his team gives him total control over all aspects of the interview.
They dragged the point of the interview being on Drake's RUclips channel
This could've easily been finished with "Drake being in control of the production of his interview means he can take out certain content"
Joe is right...in a interview setting you do not let the interviewee ' produce' the interview...it does not make any sense. The power in that dynamic is skewed...
Killa Dilla Right. At that point there’s no reason for the interviewer being there if the person being interviewed has total control.
Joe’s blinking like crazy! Hope he’s ok
We was on a tour called never say never gave you some cocaine when you were under the weather
Biz smoked that!
Finally someone said it. I was reading the comments to see if someone had an answer for it
Joe I agree with you... happy new Year's
Mal annoying here
Joe's saying why is it posted on his channel PR style? This isn't an interview, that was a 2hr autobiography. Not 1 person called drake out on any specific points.
Mal loves Drake so much it's wired, won't admit pusha t crushed Drake, won't here what Joe is saying about the interview, just loves everything Drake does, wierd
Wish you could spell
Drake is a dope artist but he's not an innovator, he doesn't start trends or sounds, he adapts well to other people's sounds i.e Kanye (808s), Weeknd, Migos, Future, Afrobeats, dancehall, UK Drill etc.
Facts
M 360 __ Andrew Campbell
Both of guys are highlighting very, very salient points. Drake is a notable creator. However he does siphon up & coming trends, that may take longer going mainstream. That doesn't diminish the fact he resurrected the rap/singing style. And I choose that word deliberately instead of "revolutionized", because it was a style that's always been here. Drake brought it to the mainstream masses, in a roundabout way towards Hip Hop, because emceeing was always first and foremost.
Andrew Campbell Relax yourself. 40 and Drake built their signature sound that they ran with last decade from 808 and heartbreaks. I’ve been listening to Drake since Comeback Season. 40 said back in 2011 they heard that album and ran with the sound. “Drake reopened the song rap concept” Nope T- Pain, Wayne and Kanye did that, Drake just ran with it last decade. As I said he never started that. Lauryn Hill is the blueprint for singing and rapping on a track at a high level and also doing it throughout an album. Drake never started that. “Every artist you named only blew up when Drake attached his name” I know you aren’t including Kanye who birthed his sound in that statement. But for the others, again he didn’t start those sounds he adapted very well to the sounds that those guys introduced. Why don’t you understand what I’m saying ? Stop being emotional and actually take in what I’m saying. “Emphasised releasing free music to promote an album” So 50 Cent didn’t do that leading up to his Get Rich or Die Trying album ? So Wayne never did that in the mid 2000s ?
Migos and future ??????? Who does future sound like lol who do migos sound like
Goaty Flex read carefully, I said Drake adapted to all of those artists’ sounds
“You guys!!?” 😂 Joe is a trip!
That interview was too boring for me to make it through it all. Maybe I just don’t find Drake & his storyline that interesting. I definitely don’t believe his baby mama situation & he’s in denial about a few things. It’s not for me.
U speaking all facts
Breathe721 It was his attempt at controlling the narrative after being booed at Flog Gnaw and sonned in front of the world. It was basically damage control
Same
18:40 Joe sends a subtle jab at Eminem lol
Joe saying it was the best, worst interview is funny.. I thought his Nicki interview was exactly that... Hot take: Joe actually doesnt do good interviews
You totally skipped over everything he said on why he thought that way about it. And he was correct. That nicki interview was a dreadful mess.
He doesn’t give good interviews? Watch the pull-ups. Then come back and talk to me about “ not giving good interviews”
@@greenmatrix30seven ive seen all the pull ups.. Nothing stands out...
Oohh plz. Don’t gimme that. He asks good questions.
Everybody is weirdly in their feelings in this interview but Joe is completely correct. The Drake interview was great from a fan perspective, but if the subject of the interview has complete control over the production/editing, etc., you have to take the information with a grain of salt for sure. You certainly can't call it journalism if the subject of the report controlled the information.
John was spot on with it being Produced and an ACT. A lot of looking up to the left
So Mal thinks drake didnt get bodied by Push? 🤔 to each his own I guess
cause yall saying ''bodied'' like his career over or something. it was just a lost
@@DesignzRUs I say bodied as in a loss, never did anyone thing drake's career would be over but it was his first loss after he bodied others
@@DesignzRUs he got bodie by Push.. just like he bodied Meek.. Meek still has a career and so does Drake
Designz R Us bodied meant in reference to that battle. Geesh I like Drake too but I mean let’s keep it a buck.
@@LSDAPROMC /thread
Thank you Joe!!!! All I could think when Mal was talking was STOP CAPING Mal!
Can anyone else feel the sensitivity & tension between Mal & Joe when Drake is the subject?
Dyin @ when Joe said "About manz"
Y'all didn't even discuss Drake no longer being on YMCMB anymore 🤔? Neither did they discuss him and Nicki not being cool with each other anymore
Why is everyone not asking any questions about him and Nicki since they were friends for years?😱
Dude THANKS TREY. Address IS THERE MORE FROM SCORPIO, not being on YMCMB, “as soon as this album drop I’m outta of the deal, back at the crib playing DeAngelo how does it feel?”
What other deal? Bc THAT WAS THE LAST PIECE OF WORK ATTACHED TO YMBMC. So obvious. And you want to know the real???
Bc if you do: RESEARCH THE WALT DISNEY ANGLE. It’s in the same song and subs you can extract from all Walt Disney character catelogs and DRAKE LIED ABOUT IT IN INTERVIEW AND BUDDEN KNOWS AS WELL AS EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT.
Talk about Kaping !!!! Colin Kaepernick.
Young Walt Disney: Drake
Goofy: Wayne
Mickey: Kendrick
Go read all their lyrics it’s super clear.
23:30 We need a neutral position. You can't have a criminal question a criminal they both getting away. I think Joe just wants some transparency.
I'm glad Joe called Mal out on his caping smh chill bro they not your friends
He's getting annoying for real he was cool at first
@@thekyletechno agreed
9:56 AYOOO lmao Joe has had ENOUGH I'm crying 😭😂
The interview was produced more like a movie than a documentary
Joe budden is literally obsessed with drake. Every topic about drake he always gives it that extra passion and effort. It’s very interesting
That’s every topic
He's the biggest rapper rn and he dissed him 4 songs deep and Drake gave him 4 bars
Its cause drake got his style from joe.
rman envious!
I think it’s cos drake had sex with tahiry who at the time was the love of his life
Yeah I'm getting tired of Mal & his safe people list
I want someone to love me the way Mal loves Drake
Damn!
Jean weh Yu deh?
Ovo mal has returned
Watching this in 2024 and I can't BELIEVE how Budden is trying to speak truth and these dudes are back pedaling and defending Drake until the end. Ugh.