NBA Legends Explain How Good Michael Jordan Would Be in Today's NBA
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2021
- We always have discussions about past NBA Legends and how successful they'd be in today's NBA. Here's some former and current players giving their take on how dominant MJ would be today. Hope you enjoy.
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MJ: I'd average 40 today.
Me: Why so low?
MJ: Well, I am 59 years old.
This is the best example I've seen period!
Okey I love it.
And then you took it personally...
I don’t think I heard that one, but it’s right on brand! Lmfao
He also challenged Magic to a one on one just because he can
That's a classic quote.
I mean he averaged 37 without shooting 3s and in a league where you could play defence, I guess players would know better than anyone else. For me hes the greatest so I cant argue with that
And slow pace so less Possessions
what does *"you could please defence"* mean ?
Did you go to school ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dynamic6645 that is so fucken funny. Can you post it again. You ameba
@@anthonystevens5294 The 80s was about as fast paced as today's game is. It was the 90s when the pace slowed down.
@@davidmartinez52420 Jordan's Bulls in the 80's played the slowest pace in the league.
Crazy this mans been retired for over 20 years and we still talk about his greatness 🤟🏽
we will always talk about his greatness. MJ is one of the few people in existence that even today is immediately recognized anywhere in the world. LeFlop can walk down the streets of LA and go unrecognized. Or people would mutter "is that LeCrybaby?"
He retired 19 years ago, so you need a math class. And people talk about Jordan in context to LeBron. Babe Ruth retired over 80 years ago and people talk about him still.
THAT is impressive. Not Jordan. Get off his nuts
Now that in itself is the definition of greatness.!!!!!!!!!!
@@Blahblahblehblhah Everything ok at home buddy? You going through a rough time?
Bingo. He’s still the measuring stick. 20 years after Lebron retires, people will still be comparing future current players to MJ, not Lebron.
You gotta love the amount of respect other legends have for Jordan. Literally a legend amongst legends
The way they talk about MJ is like if he’s a Myth.
When your peers and rivals admit it, you are who you are but when you praise yourself, you are not who think you are. Just saying
Give Jordan a year, and he will have worked on his 3's. Just imagine Jordan with that GOAT midrange game, slashing ability and now a refined 3 point shooter? GAME OVER.
What?… kevin hart did better than him in the 3pt contest - and this is facts no feelings and by the way mj had 15 seasons to try and get his 3pt right..
@@NBAKING149 delete this nonsense
@@NBAKING149 You're slow.
He played 15 years. Maybe 32% is his norm. After all, he was ultra competitive and saw better shooters shoot 3s. Just because it's MJ doesn't mean he would automatically shoot better.
@@TheRealDyscyples not facts,?
The reason MJ “only” averaged 30 ppg is because Phil Jackson asked him to score less for the sake of the team. Jordan averaged 37 ppg before he perfected his mid range.
As Mark Jackson said “In today’s game he would average whatever he wanted to average”
mj can averaged 30+ 40+ without hitting 3's ... GREATNESS!!!
Naw he only averaged 30 a game because of those 2 years with the Wizards
False. He averaged 30 ppg because he spent three years in his late 30's playing golf before he came back and spent two seasons averaging "only" 20 ppg when he was 40. Jordan averaged 31.5 as a Bull, which is WAY more than anyone else.
People underrated his passing but he was a shooting guard. The Bulls were a well oiled machine, Pippen would b interesting n this era
That year that Jordan averaged 37 was his and a few others best scoring season as well. Very little defense was being played in the 80's until Detroit and even they started out as an offensive team
People also have to realize, part of Jordan's "super power" was his ability to elevate his play, there are players who have ceilings of skill level, Jordan had a way of pushing through. Best player of all time.
He scored 38 pts in an NBA finals game when he had the flu! That's elevating!
Dominating in an era when you weren't allowed to double team
@@unlimitedpubes Lmao Jordan is arguably the most double and triple teamed player ever.. He literally scored on entire teams 🤦🏾♂️
@@recoverywillcome5937 it was against the rules to come off your man unless it was a switch
@@unlimitedpubes incorrect; you were allowed to double team the ball. So as long as you were going after the ball, double teams were allowed. And in as physical a league as he played in, it would be much harder to deal with that than a double team in todays NBA; cause a double team against Jordan just gonna end up with a free trip to the free throw line
After The Last Dance aired, 2 years already now, I'm still stunned why people wonder why he's the GOAT ever. The level of competitiveness in him is like a lifestyle and not just a goal/life pursuit, it's a mindset that carries on through his life. And in the 90's, there's hand checking! Imagine him shooting them 3's so freely today! So it's crazy how he can be so maniacal about winning, because that's the only thing he thinks about all the time.
MJ MJ MJ MJ!!!
MJ and Kobe Bryant were the same people same mindset they were closer than everybody' ever thought. They had with LeBron doesn't have..
@@kevinhall7740 a franchise capable of building around them?
After a documentary endorsed by MJ, to make him look great? Amazing. He also beat Looney Tunes. He did. It’s in a movie…🍿
@@kevinhall7740 Kobe is not top 10. So…move on.
"When people say I could score 50 points a game if I played today...I take that personally."
- MJ
Avgs 60 🤣
Real
average like 70 HAHAHAHA
@@SaxonFaust why u think that?
@@SaxonFaust Jordan would average 50 with the FLU.
This is why it may be unfair to compare LeBron to Michael Jordan. Because if they are both together in either the 90's or 2000's or 2010's, Jordan would best him. EVERY. TIME.
Ion know a physical lebron james would be scary
@@uus4127 a physical Jordan would dominate him.....He squashed Hakeem,Ewing,Mutumbo, and etc....these dudes were Big as shit and I forgot about a young Shaq
The Bronsexuals act like Lebum is imposing with his stature . Lebum always flopping and I'm supposed to believe hes intimidating to other players. Lol Name the players that Lebum got physical with?
@@uus4127 Kobe bullied LeBron in the post. No one intimidated by LeBron
@@bwink23 Kobe used to always cook Lebron with MJ moves in iso plays
I LOVE how respectful KD is... So evident he was raised by a GREAT mother.
Shame he quits on everyone he joins.
@@Joshwaheazo He learned from the best afterall, LeBum
I'm so glad to see Mark Jackson saying what he said! I don't understand why people act like MJ was a liability as a 3-point shooter. It's nonsense. If you look at his career stats, there were seasons early on where he averaged LESS than 1.0 attempts per game beyond the arc, and his percentage was low, but as his career went on and he took more 3's and averaged 2-3 attempts per game, his percentage went UP towards 35-37% and even averaged .427% in the 95-96 season where he played ALL 82 games! As Mark said, "Michael Jeffrey Jordan would average whatever he wanted", and I wholeheartedly agree. Because MJ was ADAPTABLE. Whatever kind of game was needed to win, he could adapt to it, especially today's soft NBA.
People also don't realize that Jordan's way of playing in his later years was very efficient. No fancy dribbles. And that's the thing he can dream shake then fadeaway yo ass or cross you.
That one season he averaged 42 the 3 point line was shortened. But I definitely agree that if Jordan needed to shoot 3s to be competitive he would've done it and practiced until he was the best.
His rating was average & that wasn't the focus. Man let MJ put n that work.Kobe is close 2 what MJ would of been but I still think MJ was more precise
Mark Jackson, Reggie, Rose gave the Bulls hell
Michael was a pretty poor shooter away from the rim.. definitely not a 3 point threat..he was basically unstoppable as a young buck..but not able to lead a team by himself..he won his first ring at 27 or 28..he was beginning to get a well deserved rep as a ball hog and a coach killer..then the Bulls got Chief Wigwam as their coach, scottie, horace grant, dennis rodman, etc..the team jelled behind Jordan and his athletic ability was so spectacular that the others just got out of the way..but he wasn't a good outside shooter, not that I remember..oh, he would hit occasionally but not often..so this Jordan worship while deserved needs a little retrospection..he was protected by the league, so he drove knowing he would either score or score and get and 1..no wonder he averaged 30-35..shot 12-15 free throws..of course great defender and ball handler.. although a bit overrated on defense
This is how you know he's really the GOAT. When other NBA' players and coaches are saying you're this great, you know there is no one better
Not only are these NBA players, these are HOF's, G.O.A.T.'s of their franchises and positions, saying MJ's the ALPHA G.O.A.T.
Many players today were INSPIRED by Jordan and that automatically created a bias towards Michael Jordan. The numbers do not lie though. And LBJ is better. That’s just what it is. It doesn’t matter what people say.
I don’t know I’m not saying he can’t do it I’m saying he might not do it he played 15 seasons in throughout those 15 seasons and never seem like he was willing to expand his game honestly he improved and read the fine certain things he will get it but I am adding new things to his bag I can’t respond any especially when he got old
Do you think since he was getting older he will learn to be an elite three point shooter but now he stayed exactly the same
And he had one season where is our 40% from three but I was season one line was shorter and then he would never do that again she didn’t expand on that.
It’s not like having a three point shot is mandatory there’s tons of All-Stars even argue with superstars that do not have a three point game and maybe that will be MJ he doesn’t really like Settling for jumpers anyway
@@allenlucas1676 MJ as a player is better, more efficient and useful to his team than Lebron James.
Statistics confirm this.
*Michael Jordan: BPM: ( 1st ), PER: ( 1st ), WS/48: ( 1st ), VOPR Per Game: ( 1st ).*
Lebron is better than MJ only in longevity and cumulative statistics. Lebron fans are so $tupid. Lol.
@@allenlucas1676 so losing half of the finals and getting beasted by jj Berea and Jason Terry makes him better??? You're drunk go home, you're cut off!!!
If you dont think Michael Jordan wouldnt average more than james harden we dont have nothing to talk about.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
He is to old men he is 59 he wouldn’t be able to keep up in today’s game’s
@@xavieralbino-pagansr6377 they’re talking about prime mj
He’d also foul out before half, and lead the league in techs with the mouth he’s got on him too. Also let’s not forget about the fact he shot 30% from 3 on only 1.4 attempts per game in for his career. If y’all are gonna talk about prime Mj being in the today’s league you also gotta factor in the fact it’s 3 point oriented something Mj wasn’t too good at, also there is this thing called hand checking that helped Mj get a lot of steals and blocked shots in his career that is now illegal, along with the push off that won him his 6th chip that’s now what we call an offensive foul in today’s league. If you really think that style of play would work in today’s league your smoking rocks.
Period
it was my great pleasure to see MJ play many times on TV. I'm glad I was alive to enjoy his greatness. I am in my 50s and have watched basketball my entire life and he's the best I've ever seen
@Drifter Nibler same here bro bro. The times...
I'll be 52 this year. It was my joy to see that artist on the court!!
I was able to be 5 rows behind the Bulls bench several times in the old Chicago Stadium and see Jordan up close and personal..
No one better
He scored 63 points against one of the greatest defensive teams of all time. Scored all over the teams that beat him up like the Pistons/Knicks. Plus in his first 5 years he dunked on everyone. 45-50 points a night today easy maybe more.
i remember the pistons.
end your run, or we end your career.
The fact that the question is still asked is a testament to how much of a phenom he actually was.
If an old Wizards MJ with no hops and busted knees can give the likes of TMac, VC, KG, Pierce the business in their primes back then, a PRIME MJ would literally eviscerate anyone in this no-defense era 😂
Jordan took ALMOST the same number of shots during his wizards tenure as he did when he played for the Bulls and shot horribly from three point range, the fact that you think he is averaging 50 is laughable, especially considering that the man has TWICE said that he hated zones, I repeat, no once, but TWICE !!
@@dynamic6645 does not need to shoot 3s to score high
@@dynamic6645 Lots of NBA legends say he can average 45 to 50 in this era. And you a casual say either way. lol who are you?
@@ThePadai He's someone that excels at hoops at his local Peter Piper's. I think the hall-of-famers' opinions are just a little bit more meaningful than his. This cat would get beasted by Juwanna Mann.
@@dynamic6645 so because he said he hates zones means he couldn't play against one? That makes no sense, good shooting beats a zone, mj was a pure shooter, and mj fg% in Washington wasn't horrible in comparison to all the other wings in that yr MVP candidate before he tore his MCL
Jordan has a career high of 69 but he also had 18 rebounds and 6 assists in that game.
This had some of the best MJ clips. Not the ones everybody's seen, but the day in, day out shots that he made look easy. People don't understand his capability to score. Best ever and it's not close.
Yes
The GOAT. Watched his entire career and nobody is close
He’s one of the few athletes in any sport where you never felt he was outmatched in his prime.
@@turnupthesun81 yet despite that his opponents were top tier nba talent, the likes of magic, Larry, barkley Ewing Stockton mullin drexler malone Kobe shaq Ming the list goes on. Yet like u said MJ still felt like he was untouchable despite the amazing opponents he had to face. The GOAT no question
@@fusionz0722 don't forget Kerr and Kenny Smith and Steve Nash
@@jamesdukes1869 bro 😎
Add in mutombo, peyton brothers, reggie Miller, rodman, Robinson (all Hall of Famers) and he stood head and shoulders above them all.
Without doubt, the greatest of all time. LeBron has more physical tools but MJ was a different beast. The toughest mentality of any sportsman.
What would Jordan average today?
"What ever he chooses"
Case closed.
FACTS.
He'd lose doing it. 0 Championships.
How many player's can you name to avg. +35ppg and won an NBA title? Wilt was avg. 37, 40, 50, etc. with over 20reb. and couldn't.
@@dct124 Wilt actually has 2 rings tho so that makes your 0 claim obsolete lol
@@Fier07112 🤦🏾♂️ you missed something
Every sport bar none has improved over the years. It’s basic statistics. We have a higher supply of better talent. Jordan’s era gets clapped by today’s bball players
1:50 I remember watching that game live. That's one of if not THE nicest move I've ever seen on a basketball court. The thought of him doing a reverse layup, from where he took off, never even entered anyone's mind.
Lebron would definitely be trying to get on Mike team 😂
🤣🤣🤣and LBJ will got many rings
I was born in 1982 so I’ve seen it all, MJ was the most feared player in all of sports period, that’s how good he was.
lol you live in Chicago? What you 4 years old running around screaming I want to be like Mike??
Thank you these guys come on here hoping to change the facts that a majority of us witness for ourselves. And allot of us watched stop what we was doing at that time and went to watch tv to see him play on tv. Everyone was watching him do this in front of the world. In other words we all bare witness to his greatness. Then some of us passed it on through conversation and just sitting with each other and even in passing by people on the streets. It was a different time. We see the difference between games today to the very brutal and physically tough league back when they didn't call fouls as much as they do now. Good job, glad to see honest men on here.
@@hershelpogue1745 I grew up in Chicago and watched every game the bulls played on WGN. Went to numerous games... I met Mike and the rest on meet and greet days. MJ had no weaknesses to his game.. You can not say that about anyone else
Funny how we were born the same year. If u agree that Jordan’s the goat, ur old enough. If u disagree, ur too young to have witnessed it.lol
@@allenlucas1676 You get nothing but love for knowing the truth. We all were watching him on tv, in person, at the Olympics, winning a NCAA championship, and 6 championships that in his time in the NBA. They are people that are jealous of a man that love the game they claim they love but can't coupe with someone that was greater at all phases of basketball. The Greatest of all times Michael Jordan.
“I am telling you as a witness “.....he ain’t lying 🤣💯
I love hearing and seeing the respect and homage other great players pay to Mike. Isn't LeBron in today's game? But all of these players are saying Jordan would go the f*ck off in LeBron's era. Nuff said.
I love a lot of today's players but I feel truly lucky to have been able to grow up watching his career.
me too..
MJ alway said that shooting threes doesn’t work with his mentality, but a lot of people have to know that MJ wasn’t a bad 3’s shooter. It’s very simple, his game was on “ruthless agression” mode, and it’s mean, dunks, posters, fade away, mid range shooting, and dropping 30 pts, 40pts, 50 pts or even 60 pts, every single games. 10 times leading NBA score, 6 times MVP of the finals, the only player that have for six times 40 ppg in the playoffs…and you lnow what? There are a lot of more nubers with statistics about MJ. He is the GOAT by far, then comes the others.
agreed, in the 80's he was a bit below average in 3pt shooting and in the 90s a bit above. so not bad at all. i really dont get why people call lbj and kobe good/great 3pt shooters and mj bad when mj shoots just 2% lower at most than the other guys. i guess relative to the rest of his game that was probably his worst skill, but far from bad at it.
@@CaesarMagnum agree! 👌🏼👌🏼
@@CaesarMagnum MJs 3pt % rose dramatically when the line was shortened though. During his career without a shortened 3pt line his percentage was like 28-29% which is not good lol, 3pt shooting was a definite weakness of his
LeBron for the last 10-11 years of his career has shot 36% from 3 which is league average over that time, so he's not a good shooter but he's good enough for defenses to respect his shot. In his absolute prime he was an elite shooter thought, made 41% of his 3s in 2013
@@camctrail *MIchael Jordan: Playoff Per Game ( 1984-85 to 1992-1993 )=34.7-ppg. 3P-35.2%.*
3P-35.2%. Is not bad.
1993 Nba Finals.
*Michael Jordan=41-ppg. 3P-40%.* On average made 4.2 attempts per game.
1992 Nba Finals.
*Michael Jordan=35.8-ppg. 3P-42.9%.* On average made 4.7 attempts per game.
MJ didnt devote much time to this aspect of the game.The three-point shot was not important part of the game at the time. +in the 90s, the defense is much tougher. Tough and physical defense affects the accuracy and efficiency of the players.
Of course, if MJ played in the modern league, he would devote more time and energy to perfecting his three-point shooting. But i think that if MJ played in the modern league he would have dominated even without a three-point shot.
@@camctrail thank you
If MJ could average 37 points per game while being "butchered" by his opponents imagine what he would do in today's game with today's rules!!! No one is allowed to hand check and if anyone roughs him up it's a multiple game suspension!!!! Tick tack fouls being called constantly, players spreading the floor making it very difficult to double up on anyone. MJ would go wild scoring!!!!
It's the opposite of that, without him being able to use his body the way he did, he won't be able to create openings. He would barely score.
Spreading the floor? Double teams? Did you watch basketball in the 90s? The floor was always spread due to illegal defense rule. Double teaming was pretty much illegal.
@@nicoligaming7488 Congrats on writing one of the dumbest things I've ever read. MJ would "barely score." Yeah, okay.
@@bigbuffguy9589 It's a bit of a hyperbole, but he certaintly wouldn't be a top 20 player in today's NBA.
@@nicoligaming7488 are you serious??? Nobody would stop MJ in this era. KD himself said MJ would be the Best player if he was playing right now.
MJ's defense is so underrated. Yeah he got a Defensive Player Of The Year Award as a guard in a Center era but lots of people never mention that. Props to Jalen for pointing that out tho.
Very very interesting listening to the guys who play in today's league or have played very recently, appreciate their honest assessments of today's league.
Incredibly easy to score in, hence why we have alot of players with overinflated stats who likely wouldn't have half the success they enjoy today if they played during the 80's and 90's
Some of yall folks really don't know MJ. Once one reporter says "Jordan can't shoot the 3", you better believe Jordan will be in the top 5 in the 3pts made and % by the end of that season. So saying he couldn't shoot 3s, means you don't know how Jordan is built.
FACTS X 10! That’s exactly how it would go down.
Facts, these kids soft nowadays
@@styleemusic you’re soft lol
Fax
Ok.
These conversations are nothing more than purely talking points, yet MJ would of literally been unstoppable. I watched MJ from his first game until his last game, and was nothing but the BEST!! Lastly I will simply say that MJ was so good, that he was first team all defense 9 times.... 9 times!!
Nuff Said! MJ all day every day! 40 points a stroll in the park for him. He is the GOAT!!!!
One point not made is today it’s acceptable to sit out games for preventative reasons. Jordan’s mindset would never allow him to do it but imagine if he took an extra 6-7 DNPs throughout the year to recover and push the pace. His average would be incredible.
I salute KD for being so humble❤️
KD is honest he knows Jordan is unmatched
Jalen nails it. I think Jordan would have kept his weight lower in today’s game because he wouldn’t worry about strength and would just be concerned with mobility.
Putting the commentary aside, these highlights are wild. And it’s not always what Black Cat is doing, it’s the reactions from players, coaches and fans to what he’s doing.
I love the slo-mo clips because all the movement and adjustments he makes, mid-air. Once my feet leave the ground, that's it, the ball's going wherever it's gonna go.
Imagine if Kobe or MJ didn’t play defense and actually focused all their energy and offenses.
Who that would be crazy
Kobe actually said that he stopped scoring in 50s and 60s because he wanted to get his teammates involved more to compete for a championship. He just casually said that scoring 50 or 60 is easy for him. The challenge is to get the team together and win championships. This was an interview and he won 2 more rings then.
You’re exactly right and I didn’t really take him long because he was forced to play a team game when he had shaq.
@@shivanshdixit16 thats the thing.. you gotta score 50-60 but not at your teams expense.. Kobe is great. but I always thought he teetered on hurting the lakers at times cuz he focused on his own at first.. He later became a more complete player I felt..
As of a team player yes I agree but as a player himself how are you he was complete in 2003.
He never lost his vision he always knew where the open man was and everything else was at his max such as his three point shooting slashing in his defense.
It was just his willingness to test looked up especially since shaq was being a cancer. And didn’t want to work hard anymore
@@randomperson2540 some people feel kobe was the cancer.. not shaq..
87 Jordan wouldn't need a single 3 to hit 40. His FG% would go from 48% to 55% with all the open space to get to the rim. He would only need 3 more FT makes a game. So 16 FTA a game. He get 40 with not a single 3.
Open space is right. they called him Air because IF you hung on him you ended up on the bench and Nike ended your career for touching their star and jeopardizing sneaker sales. Who do you think funded the NBA? NIKE did. Who sold all the shoes? Jordan did!
@@duncangarrah968Wow....so much misinformation here. Post some links
@@duncangarrah968
If Nike would end careers for touching Jordan, why didn't they do it to the teams that relentlessly beat up on him (like the Pistons)??? Where you drinking "grandpa's cough medicine" when you made this statement???
@@cashscience Lebron stans are delusional my guy lol. We know who the real goat is.
His career FG% is the craziest stat. Whatever the era that is crazy for a high volume non center.
Sir.MJ, THE GOAT Point! Blank! and Period!!
I was blessed to be a teenager in the mid 80's growing up on the southside of Chicago watching all the games with my guys and we loved every bit of it. MJ would average at least 45 today.
easy man..
When Jordan came into the league, everyone instantly knew he was the GOAT there was very little argument. He was something never before seen. In the present league, people still talk more about Jordan than anyone today. Will there ever be another player like Jordan? If and when it happens, everyone will shut up and watch history knowing whoever it is, is the best. That person is not in the league today.
This is 100% correct. There may be another Jordan at some point, but the undebatable fact is that that person has not happened to this very day.
It took him a full year before anyone really noticed.
Bird is the GOAT
@@Alamyst2011 Not going to argue with your choice in regards to floor vision, passing skill, BB IQ, leadership, and will to win, Larry beats Michael. I flip on those 2 as the goat. No other player besides those 2 were "Must see".
@@htoneninety-nine8726 I agree completely. I love Mike. He probably had the largest impact on Bball overall. But damn, watching the Bird fly was epic
@@Alamyst2011 it's amazing how they are both jaw dropping to watch for totally different reasons.
I grew up in the Jordan era. Simply put it , no question he was the best player on the court every night . He was sooooooo much better than everyone else . Ran Faster , jump higher, get to the basket whenever he wanted. And they could hand check and and beat you up in the post. Average 50 a night
No seriously they not listening the man would easily average 45 no problem an probably 50 in the playoffs
@@user-qu7ie8xw6r hell nawl 😂😂😂
I don't know if Jordan was soooooo much better than Isaiah, Allen Iverson, Magic, Dr. J and Bird.
and I would pick Kareem ahead of Jordan for my all-time dream team. I would NOT pick jordan first.
@@RobertMJohnson I would pick Wilt Chamberlain over both of them. Wilt Chamberlain was the only man to ever block Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's skyhook. And Wilt was blocking the skyhook when Kareem was a prime youngster and wilt was an old man.
Wilt Chamberlain was a 7 ft 2-in tall 300 lb, elite athlete. He had over a 40 inch vertical jump confirmed, ran in 11 second hundred meter dash, and bench press 550 lb.
How are you going to stop a guy with a killer fade away shot like Kevin Durant has, is 2 in taller than Durant, runs faster than Durant, and the stronger than Shaquille O'Neal? That man would get 50 a game without breaking the sweat today.
@@RobertMJohnson kareem too slow vs mj.. MJ way better
I used to hate Michael because he was like Superman, he was so good it was boring rooting for him. Then at around 10. I saw some IMAX thing about him at the Boston Omnitheatre at the Museum Science and I cried it was so inspiring watching him. It was like seeing a human go past what was possible and make it look easy and fun.
4:58 People have moves, the rocker step, the fade away, cross over, etc... This is an example of one of Jordan's moves, it has no name because nobody else is capable of doing it. Reggie Miller called Mike the "black cat", and I think that's the best description on who and what Jordan was, he moved and played like a predatory jungle cat, like a panther or jaguar. He was special, no one is ever gonna be like Mike.
The thing about Mike was he had a assassination mindset and he also adapts to the people that exist. You could literally see how he would be in the minds of other players.
As a person who saw Jordan come into their as a rookie and retire with the wizards, Jordan would easily put up at least 45 PPG in today's game, even without shooting 3's. The amount of no calls Jordan got because of how physical the game was and how hand checking was allowed, is too many to count on my hands and toes. In today's game hand checking is not allowed, slapping a person on the wrist is not allowed, heck you can't even play defense in today's game. In today's game you get called for defensive 3 seconds. In those days big men could just stay in the paint and all game long and knock Jordans ass on the floor and it was perfectly legal. No ejections, no fines, no flagrant, etc.
Jordan playing in a physical era, still averaged 38 and he has the most 60 point games in the playoffs. Let that sink in.
Jordan would be at mid 40s just on the extra free throws alone... and THEN you add in the 3-ball? 50 a game.
They never call charges in the NBA as well its embarrassing to watch.
@@infinitecontent8001 Yeah, I can see that. Jordan would adapt and his intensity would still be unmatched.
50 ppg in today's NBA for MJ ... And all this talk about him not shooting 3's .... The Finals against Portland Game 1, Micheal Jordan shot 6/6 from the 3pt line and finished the 1st half with 35 pts, and remember this is 92 we're there still playing hard D and it's the Finals!!!
I never understood the whole ‘no hand-checking’ thing. Aren’t you allowed to put your forearm on the player’s lower back as you defend him? I think that’s allowed but obviously if you were allowed to keep just your hand on his back it would give the defender a lot more leverage.
When you think about some of the greatest players of that era, and how many he denied from winning a title. Barkley, Stockton, Malone, Payton, Drexler, Ewing, Miller, Mourning, Johnson, and so on. The talent in that era was phenomenal overall, where every team had at least a pair of stars, some had multiple stars and couldn’t dethrone the bulls. Jordan was epic, and make no mistake, he would dominate in this era where defense doesn’t play the same role it once did.
Make no mistake, that bulls team was good, very good, they took the Knicks to seven in the eastern finals the first year of Jordans 2 year retirement, but Jordan elevated that team to elite.
This. The players of that Era are all insane. They would absolutely kill the NBA today, all of them.
Imagine John Stockton as guard, MJ as shooting guard, Drexler as small forward, Malone as forward and then David Robinson as center.
Then on the bench you have Barkley, bird, Miller, Hakeem, and Iverson.
Thats literally two USA Olympics dream teams right there.
And the dream team scored like 150 a night against about 50-60 scored against
Let's take a more cool headed approach to this thing.
MJ in 1986 -- 37.1 PPG, 5 Assist, 5 rebounds, 1.5 blocks, and 3 steals per game.
12 free throw attempts per game, and 0.8 -- 3 point attempts per game.
When MJ took over 3 attempts per game from 3 pts range in 1996 he made 43% of them, and 37.5% the next season too.
He was also top 3 in Defensive player of the year consideration regularly, and responsible for tons of turnovers.
Let's say he was playing at 37 minutes per game today.....And with a focus on 3 point shots, his average makes would be around 40% from range. The shooting of 7 or 8 attempts per game would result in 3 makes per game minimum. This is also no counting the extra free throws he'd be getting from the BS fouls they call , and from being fouled during 3 pts attempts.
I'd say He'd get 35PPG (reduced minutes from 40 to 37) + 4 PPG (extra 3 pts attempts) + 5 PPG (extra free throws made) = 44 PPG.
And that's on like 36 or 37 minutes for load management. So people saying "40 easy " and even "45" are not exaggerating.
When is the last time you saw a shooting guard get 3 steals AND 1.5 blocks per game? That's some crazy turnovers generated. If you add in 4 more points per game generated off turnovers, and say that MJ gets at least one bucket for himself off fast breaks, that puts my estimation of his scoring to 46 PPG.
86-87 season, 85-86 he only played 18 games
The major flaw in your argument about his three-point shooting is that in 1995 through 97 the three-point line was 2 ft closer. Jordan did not have the same efficiency at the full distance
@@lawpenner And my counter point to that is , MJ learned to do stuff. He trained at the 3 point line a couple of years, and hit 40%. You think he couldn't adjust to a 2ft distance ????? That's insane to argue man!
Steph Curry perfected the deep 3pt shot, and he's no MJ. Michael's abilities and work ethic surpass what Curry has. If Chucking 3's was the name of the game, MJ could average 45+ any time he wanted to.
@@craigwheeler4760 it's actually NOT insane because real-life already proved it out. In 1997 when they moved the 3-point line back father out, MJ's 3-point shooting percentage fell from about 40% down to .238. He's just not as good a shooter a couple feet further out. That extra distance IS a difference maker for him.. Says who? ...says his own stats.
You could theorize that he would have become a better long-distance 3-point shooter if he would have "practiced more" but he had every opportunity to do so. The three-point line was there his entire NBA career. He became as good of a 3-point shooter as he wanted to be.
Do I think that he could have EVER become as good a 3-point shooter as Steph Curry if he were to devote his insane "MJ competitive spirit" toward mastering 3-point shooting? No, I don't. Not at all. And this has a lot to do with his shooting biomechanics versus Steph Curry's.
Michael Jordan shoots above his head which takes more strength and reduces your ultimate range. Steph Curry shoots from his chest and shoulder area which is naturally a stronger Power Zone. It's why he can shoot from so far so easily.
Same with Trae Young
Same with Damian Lillard
Same with Luca Doncic
They all shoot in front of their shoulder.
Jordan would not shoot well from 25-30 feet out because the biomechanics of his shot are not suited for it.
@@lawpenner crazy how how his ppg average is still the record, which he did without stacking 3's
The bench reaction of the layup at 1:50 always cracks me up 🤣
MJ would hate playing today. He loved the challenge of the rough defenses.
Nah he would win like 8 titles in a row forcing other teams to try and stop him, which they obviously won’t be able to
🚨 “When I get the ball, you have mercy on whatever I want to do. The feeling is you own the ball, you own the game, you own the guy who’s guarding you, you can actually play him like a puppet” 🐐 Goat talk
🔥Michael Jordan🔥
This man said this in 1989. That's how you KNEW Michael Jordan was nothing to play with, because he had that mentality even before he started winning chips and becoming the greatest ever.
Him and Bird would go insane
Reggie Miller too
Jordan is a machine. He will score any which way he wants in any era.
The reason why Jordan is not greater than Lebron is Lebron is dangerous regardless if he’s scoring the ball or not.
@@allenlucas1676 Lebron greatest at joining others to win
@@leechrec Bet you ain’t know that Jordan tried to recruit top ranking players. But y’all go in on Lebron for doing it.lol
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*2008 ECSF. Game 1: Lebron James=12-Points, FG-11%. and 10-Turnovers.*
10-Turnovers ? ? Overrated bum.
*2014 ECF. Game 5: Lebron James=7-Points, FG-20%.*
*2020 WCFR. Game 2: Lebron James=10-Points, FG-36% and 6-Turnovers.*
But the Lakers won anyway. AD carried Lebron James.
Michael Jordan couldnt afford the luxury of scoring 10-Points in an important playoff game and still winning the game.
MJ is better than Lebron. Get over it.
@@allenlucas1676 Lebron is great in his own right no doubt, but not as close as how MJ graced the hardcourt.
Best ever and ever will be!
The guys on the bench reactions at 01:54🤣🤣 priceless lol
I love the respect that have for MJ
and they re only talking ppg. hes gonna average 10 rebounds 8 assists 3 steals and 2 blocks a game easily
Jalen Rose told you how: Unlike Harden, Jordan would be getting points off steals and blocks, in addition to getting more FT's. Harden just gets the ball on offense and scores, he doesn't create his points by steals/blocks.
Jordan can do everything Harden can do, most of it better, and is even more unguardable, and will get steals/blocks/FT's as well, which Harden doesn't do. Jordan averaged 37 while taking .8 3's per game and getting hacked to death.
I'd say averaging 50 isn't out of the question at all.
Oh, and Harden barely shoots the 3 better than Jordan...and honestly, he really doesn't shoot it better. Jordan just didn't shoot 3's much earlier in his career, so his career average is slightly lower, but his last 6-8 years, he was a better 3 shooter than Harden....but the 3 wasn't used that much back then.
Now imagine all MJ's skills PLUS he now shoots more 3's, PLUS you can't touch him.
Deadly.
That’s fair. But Michael would be in foul trouble if he does play his aggressive style of defense.
MJ is the greatest. I remember watching him as a kid, man some of the things he did....
I'm glad this topic was brought up. The world has evolved since then and he would do waayyy better now.
I’ll take all the pros for their words. MJ would definitely average 45-50 a night comfortably because he would be coming from a very physical era to a hands free era. His shooting percentage would be through the roof.
You shouldn't take the pros for their words (my goodness, Wall actually brought up the 3-second rule showing he's simply ignorant). Jordan's playstyle is actually fairly poor for today's game. Not saying he wouldn't do well, but he would have to adjust his game.
@@JonSmith-hk1bq funniest comment ever. Sorry, Celtics fan here and I agree with the "Pros".. MJ would decimate the NBA right now.
@@tonyvarse7856 Sure, with the power of love and anime or something.
@@JonSmith-hk1bq You’re calling a guy in the league ignorant? Dude, everybody knows Jordan is the greatest scorer of all time..he would average whatever he wanted in todays NBA. He was extreme efficient on the floor, didn’t waste any dribbles..super efficient player. That’s why he holds the highest PER in league history.
@@FireFighter19898841 Wall's bringing up the defensive 3-second rule was highly ignorant. It was only implemented because the NBA changed the rules to allow zone defense.
In other words, it was already illegal before the rule change. And Wall doesn't appear to know that.
In today's game if Michael Jordan was playing he would average 60 points again there's no way anyone could touch him and if you want to score more than 60 he would
MJ did 360 lay ups with ease. Changed directions in the air fluidly. Best athlete of all time. Def would average in the 40s.🙌🏼
360 lay ups? Sounds like Kramer describing MJ
That's why they called him air Jordan the man is the Greatest No debate about it case closed🤐
Someone in the video made a great point. Jordan was able to average 37 points for many seasons just from the free throw line and shooting 2's. The era he played in, there was a lot of hand checking allowed, a lot more physical. With the trainer Jordan had, with the new training methods, Jordan would average 40-45 pts a season, if he stays healthy. Today's athletes are athletic but break just as fast as Mr.Glass from Unbreakable
I was fortunate to see MJ play, and with his work ethics, skill and sheer will to win, it would feel like something out of space in this era.
He would be the Predator, with noone even close to Arnold to take him out... Indominus Rex of the Jurassic World... something bred to "kill and destroy"... Imagine Mike Tyson vs a 2 year old toddler, that is how close the duels would be..
My estimate based on the rule changes would be 45 pts/game in the regular season and 50ish in the play offs. Many people do not understand just how big of a gap there is between him and the next best players in todays NBA...
Dawg he averging 27 8 3. And 33 10 7. He never averaged close to 50 lma
@@uus4127 English please? Or German, or Russian, Czech or French.... just make sense? Nobody ever said he did average 50, we are talking about what he would average in this soft a$$ era.
He used to avg. 37pts/game in his Era, so 45pts/game is very realistic with no hand checking etc.
@@janjilek3496 this era isn't soft, when I see Green kicking Steven Adams in the nuts, it doesn't sound like the league is soft, when I see LeBron's nose bleeding after Ibaka fouled him hard, doesn't sound like the league is soft, when I see Zaza Pachulia injuring Kawhi Leonard on purpose in the 2017 WCF, doesn't sound like the league is soft, When I see Kelly Olynyk grabbing Love's shoulder and injuring him on purpose, it does not sound like the league is soft to me.
@@janjilek3496 but he wouldnt u know he has teamates THAT NEED THE BALL RIGHT
@@dynamic6645 NBA legends say this era is soft. And you a random on the internet say this era isn't soft. LOL I think we all know whose opinion has more weights.
I never thought about what John Wall said. Could you imagine a team playing small, playing a 6'8 dude at the 5. Nobody stopping that man from being to the rim. Shoot all the three you want.
Studios awesome I love the respect grew up watching Jordan and the bulls fundamentally there's nobody even close and you know that's no knock on anybody I mean you know there's some good ball players but you know you you were these interviews you were talking to real balls and I love the respect
The KD interview made me like him even more because he was honest
“I don’t want to live with this ‘3’ image too long because it takes away from some parts of my game,” Jordan said. “I start thinking on the break of going to the line and pulling up, instead of going to the basket. I like going to the hole. I like that creativity part of my game so much that if I worked on the 3-pointer, it would take away from my style and my definition of my game.”
Jordan after tying the current record for 3 points made in a game.
2021 Analysts: "Yeah but what about his 3 point game tho"
Take into account the context of when he made that statement too bro
He would have to work on it these days though. Can't be just going for 2s if you got Steph Curries, Trey Youngs, Lukas, etc dropping 3s on your head the whole time. He'd adapt though for sure, that's why he's the GOAT. He'd work on his 3 and use it JUST enough to make him dangerous and have people covering him tight on the perimeter just so he can blow past them.
What sold me on how great MJ was is the time he was playing on the Olympic team as a collegian and playing against the NBA All-stars that included the likes of Bird and Magic. It should be on RUclips. Go check it out. The coach of that team was Bobby Knight and he said he'd never seen a more amazing player.
Rodman said it right 👍. He knows!
VC has the best analysis out of all, the ability of MJ to adapt! if 3 ball is the trend for the players RN, MJ will be there at the gym 4 o'clock in the morning shooting 3's to improve and be lethal for that aspect of the game.
I don't understand why there is this big questioning by the hosts over MJ being able to average 40+pts in today's game - this is the man who in his 3rd year (86/87) in the NBA playing all 82 games averaged 37.1ppg off of only 0.8 3pt attempts per game in an era where the big men camped out under the basket all game waiting for you and players would barely get called for fouls that today would see you automatically ejected from a game and additionally missing double digit games on top through suspension.
Add in the fact that when challenged MJ would purposefully go out of his way to prove a point like when they said he couldn't shoot 3s and he responded with Game 1 in the 92' Playoffs against Portland where he went 6 of 10 from downtown - yes he would average anything in the 40s today and I wouldn't put it past him if he was challenged to average 50pts. There were a total of 14 teams with a sub 0.500 record last season that would be easy pickings for him and even with the top teams they would be facing a prime MJ who was capable of averaging 43.7ppg (including back to back games of 49 & 63pts) in a 3 game Playoff series against the legendary 85/86 Celtics (you know the team that had 5 Hall of Fame players on it).
For reference, his aforementioned 86/87 season he racked up 2 games of 61pts, 6 games scoring between 50-59pts, 29 games scoring between 40-49pts, 30 games scoring between 30-39pts and 12 games scoring between 20-29pts. Pretty certain that had he not had 3 games that year where he scored just 17, 13 & 11pts respectively that 37.1ppg average would have been 40+ppg instead.
I honestly don't think this era would have posed much of a challenge to him. He'd score at will as nothing could be done about it and he had no weaknesses. On most nights he could get 50+ without even hitting 3s in this era if he challenged himself to. He'd probably have turned to baseball much sooner out of sheer boredom. Another one who'd make a mockery of this era is Wilt.
@@36AccountsBlockedRIP just imagine how much he would score against the bad teams in today's game. It would be so easy for him
@@PIP-zf9yb It would be unreal watching prime MJ demolish more than half of today's teams. Especially if he challenged himself to. There's absolutely nothing they could do to stop him from driving at the rim, nevermind his insane mid-range game
@@36AccountsBlockedRIP agreed it's so much easier to score especially with Jordans game. It's a free lane to the basket in today's game there is no real big men that and you can't hand check and the game is more fast break and he would easily average in the mid 40s
Just look at the faces of coaches who faced MJ they were so scared or so worried about MJ everytime 😂. That tells you how good mj was
When i first saw mj playing back in the day i said it t0 my self this my man! This man is insane. All of his games he is in a god mode💪😅! And even if his retired he is still my idol. I remember when i was young i used to watch his plays b4 i play basketball. To inspired me and copy a little of his moves🏀😁
The 🐐 gets his reputation amongst the pros. There is nothing to argue when your peers talk about you this way.
For MJ to average 50 he would need LESS THAN 5 more points per quarter. You must be a hater to believe MJ wouldn't average that if he wanted to. He would average at least 47 and 50 plus if he wanted that.
I wonder if Jordan sees this clips... it s strange that people talk about you when you're still so young and very much alive...
Man I don't even feel qualified to comment here...just enjoying the video🤣🤣🤣
If you rule out those two seasons with the Wizards when he was basically 40, he averaged 31.5 ppg _for his entire career_ . And he wasn't "in his prime" for his entire career by definition. So if you rule out those first two seasons when he was still acclimating himself to the league, we're talking about 32.0 ppg for _eleven seasons_ , and, from '86 - '93, 33.2 ppg.
To say prime Jordan wouldn't have a season where he was at least _really close_ to 50 today is just not true.
Micheal Jordan was a true real life super hero. I'll never forget screaming "Jordan!" every shot and laying a brick every time lol. Good times in the 90's
Give JORDAN more spacing and no hand checks 🤯😳 in a game that is quicker now. Oh boy
The game is at a slower pace now. Because all that 3 shooting. They bring the ball up slower and they stop on fastbreaks when wide open to shoot 3s now
Yall do realize MJ already averaged 40ppg in the finals once, and in 7 other playoff series he averaged 40ppg... this was in the 90's against the most suffocating defenses in NBA history and for half of the deadball era... TODAY especially in the regular season hes averaging 50 that's not a question bc he already averaged 40 45 in the 90's before and it was much more physically taxing (and ppl wonder why MJ wanted retire after 9yrs in '93 lmao)... today the floor is spread out, no hand checking, paint is WAY MORE spaced out and open, guys simply aren't skilled defensively, there's gonna be at least 2x as much foul calls meaning more FTs... Jordan is averaging 50 THATS NOT A QUESTION AND THERES NO DUSPUTE... use ya brain, use rationality, use logic
You use your brain. To average 50 means you take all the shots and nothing for your teammates. Lebron and Kd could average 50 if they take 40 shots a game so this debate is so stupid.
“guys aren’t skilled defensively” 😭😭
Remember folks Harden best average was 36pts PPG. MJ best average 37.7ppg .Hardens era team scores are around 100-120 pts while MJ era team scores were around 75-95pts. Even a grade school student will realize how much higher will be his average today. Dont forget in the playoffs he averaged over 40 pts.
Tim said he used to have two bouncers guarding the paint behind him 😂😂😂 facts Fr Tho 💯💯💪🏾
Reggie explained it best. The stark difference between the game then and now especially for shooters
But I’m surprised about that one and some of these modern players are actually agreeing with this such as John Wall in KD believe that MJ can do that.
That’s it shows how great he is
But some random bron fans say either way. lol I think we all know who should we believe.
All anyone has to do is watch some jordan games on youtube and they'd see it themselves. He scored and made it look easy.
Real Facts.🔥🔥🔥🔥
Listen, the comparisons will always be there, but many people forget that MJ was the man who single-handedly brought the NBA to the world stage so that these sissies could enjoy what they have now. He is the KING of the NBA. He made the NBA what t is today- a global brand. And in today's rules where they cant touch, anyone, lord have mercy MJ would have a field day.
Let's be real , he really going to avg 50 without the 3s and if he was really in this era too , he could be dunking on these cats like crazy ..... This is BLACK JESUS FAM 💯💯💯💯 COME ON
The league was way tougher back then so imagine now and I think he can still take on Lebron even today as a OG……💪🏾🇱🇨👍🏾
What people don’t get, it’s that, no matter what era Michael Jordan would play, he would have the same mentality, and that’s what puts him above anyone else.
What Ron says at the beginning speaks volumes. Guys try and average points nowadays and still don’t sniff a lot of Jordan’s elite scoring records (especially in the playoffs). Imagine if MJ played weaker defenses today… it would get UGLY for them. He didn’t go for points. He went for wins. The MJ complex…
Forever the one and only GOAT.
Mj is the goat. The way he played and the impact he made on the court is just beyond comparable, he's that special. Respect to the other greats from that era till today, but man, Michael Jordan, when he's playin' Id be sitting in front of the TV every single time.
I lived and worked in Detroit when I became a Jordan fan. Those six championships in 8 years were the most fun I ever had. I would come home from work at 1:30 am, telling myself I would have one drink and just watch the last half. Then one of the announcers would mention something Mike did in the first half, and I would rewind the game to watch it all. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I had to see what Mike did. Good times.
I still have the "ALL BETS ARE OFF. MIKE IS BACK" tee-shirt, and the 'LAST DANCE", too.
I never got in to basketball, but I did get into Michael Jordan, even a football fan like me has the utmost respect when it comes to Jordan, he was that freaking good, my brother used to watch basketball and watching Jordan was the only time it was fun to watch for me.
Michael is a Legend. No debate necessary.