What I DO NOT MISS about Portugal | Mon Amie
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- I am Portuguese but I have been living in Norway since 2014. Although I love and miss my home country, there are some things I do not miss at all. Here they are!
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I just spoke with a guy from Turkey yesterday about how he really loved the Norwegian burocracy! He ended up on hold, and he got the option of pressing a certain button, and he could hang up and the place would call him back! And this was apparently revolutionary for him XD
I would not recommend making friends with Turks.
You're adorable! We will be moving to Portugal from Germany (We're American, been living/working in Germany for a little over 6 years) when I retire in about a year. I lived in the Azores for about 6 years total back in the 1970s and early 1980s and understand about the homes not being insulated and being so cold in winter, as well as the bureaucracy! It is good to hear the downsides from your point of view, as well as others. No place on the planet is perfect, so it is nice to have an idea of what to expect. Thank you!
Everything is a matter of culture. When I arrived in Canada, 50 years ago, dinner at 6 p.m., was nonsense. Now, if dinner is postponed to 7:00 p.m. I consider it as being too late. Nevertheless, you can’t imagine how much I miss those “brandos costumes da nossa terra”. Even now I consider that social rules should not be dictated by the clock, as professional rules should be. On smoking, I completely agree with you. You know what I miss the most here? It is exactly that camaraderie, that friendship, along with those dinners, until late at night. Am I happier here? Of course not. But the force of habit, the children and grandchildren, that is what keeps me in this glacial land, as to confirm what Pessoa said, that "we have a small country to be born and the whole world to die!"
I’m from England and I’ve in Portugal for years until I returned home. You are so right about the Portuguese winters.
I'm Portuguese as well and I have never ever felt that discomfort you seem to have felt while living in Portugal.
Cold winters? Raining all the time? Nothing to do in winter days? Portugal is one of the sunniest countries in Europe. What about those cold but sunny winter days when you go outside to walk the dog, ride your bike, do some physical exercise, for example? As you can see from the comments, problems like traffic, bureaucracy, etc. are everywhere. I live in Setúbal, with some of the best beaches in Portugal. Cold water? What seems to be the problem? This is the Atlantic, what would you expect? The Mediterranean is too polluted.
You seem to be in the right place for you. Portugal is the right place for me. There is no such thing as the perfect county/place!
Onde eu morava, em Bragança, no inverno passava semanas sem ver sol. Era só nevoeiro e imenso frio. Muito duro.
In the North it can get pretty cold, wet and dark since it's the same weather system as UK and Ireland; same thing with Northern Spain. It's also greener in the North as a result.
>from Setubal
thats why LMAO maybe listen to what she says properly first and then give your take? she clearly mentions the North particularly. I dont expect someone from Setubal to know that it can get extremely rainy and cold in several places here. I dont think she meant to talk for the southern of the country, and her experience matches mine in north portugal 100%
@@DaninaPetroskova Queres ver q na Noruega e melhor...
luis marques Talvez. Aqui as casas são muito frias. Temos frio dentro e fora de casa.
I feel like you're talking about India rather than Portugal, I can relate to every single point even though I am an Indian haha!
So true!!! Haha specially post office thing
Hahaha I can imagine you can relate to the bureaucracy. We live in Norway but my wife has worked in the Indian embassy. While she really liked working there because of the people (she liked Indians), she really hated how everything worked. It was especially frustrating since she is a foreigner and is used to dealing with Norwegian bureaucracy which is generally quite efficient. With Indian bureaucracy it seems like there is just no way of winning. She would always get people screaming at her because she demanded papers they didn't have. Now they didn't have those papers because the website didn't say they needed those papers. And my wife tried to update the website to list all they needed. But I guess in Indian fashion those at the bottom have zero authority over anything. They cannot do anything. Changing the site requires authorization and decisions from the highest possible level. And and that level nobody gave a shit about my wife's "mundane" requests. Or I guess they where swapped because they had to micro manage everything below them.
I have also worked with Indians on a number of occasions. I really like Indians on a personal level, but I don't like the work culture. Indians are hard workers. Harder workers than us. But they are used to the boss making every damn little decision. So if you have an Indian boss like my wife you cannot get anything done. OTOH if you are the boss of an India, nothing will often get done unless you explicitly tell them in detail exactly what to do. Nobody dares do anything on their own initiate. I am not sure if you get punished or something for doing things on your own initiative in India. But yeah definitely a difficult culture crash to deal with. Although it seems to work itself for Indians working in Norway. It is much more difficult to coordinate stuff remotely which each person is in their own culture.
If you want wet winters, with little or no snow but with high humidity, you should try spending a winter in Western Norway.
In the Algarve, south, the humidity is only in the winter. No rain for 2 months in the summer. Summers are low humidity, with a light breeze. Texas, Chicago, Florida, etc have high summer humidity. So 95 degrees is cooler in Pt because of
low humidity.
Fantastic video! I am originally from Marrakech and lived for about 8 years in Doha and now I live in Montreal. A couple of things I don't miss about Morocco:
- The bureaucracy and nepotism. I think slow bureaucratic governments are common across a lot of the Mediterranean countries but I think the nepotism and corruption is more widespread in the North African countries along the Med.
- The chaos...on the roads, in procedures, no concept of a waiting line or queue, I second the total disregard for appointment times (let's meet in the afternoon)
- Non-existent insulation in most houses, I froze to death in Marrakech in winters and never felt warmer at home than in -21 degrees Montreal xD.
- Lack of central A/C meant that most summers were deadly hot. Those tiny A/C units we hang in the walls didn't cut it. The fans were pretty much useless xD
- Our police, hecklers, horrible customer service, pushy sells people, a general sense of tension/anger/frustration etc...
A couple of things I don't miss about Qatar:
- The crazy speeds at which people drove in the roads (those land cruisers flashing light behind you)
- No sidewalks, and no public transit (there is a metro now). There could be a grocery store 10 or 15 meters away from your house, but you would need to drive to get to it because there was a freaking highway in between. Anyone who's been to the Gulf will know what I am talking about, highways in the middle of downtowns!
- The heat. Summers were deadly! Flip side, everything is air conditioned so it's good to keep a little jacket in case they A/C is cranked up in August
- The mall centric culture, malls were the center of the social life, along with bars in hotels. It gets boring after a while and feels fake.
- Lack of greenery, landscapes and elevation: it was a given since it's a desert but after a while, it gets to you. Qatar didn't have any lakes or rivers, it's a super flat country and has a boring yellow landscape. I think the highest elevation point was at 150m....
- Lack of civil/Individual liberties: this one is self-explanatory
I was born in Portugal and now live in the US. I go there every few years to visit family.
I mostly go there in December. I almost never had to wear a Winter coat. I wore a windbreaker most of the time and sometimes just a sweatshirt.
The people there wear heavy coats like they live in the north pole even when the weather is mild.
Maybe it was good fortune that the weather was good while I was there but I was never really cold.
00:35 So true about cold in Portuguese winter. Most houses don´t have heating. And those who have it (like mine) usually people think in costs (electricity is very expensive in Portugal) So in Winter i use 2 or even 3 layers of clothes inside my house. I understand that this may be a surprise for a Norwegian
I think its not only about the cost. Its mostly because the houses in PT, arent well insolatected( isolamento)
Yup, as a Norwegian, the coldest winter I ever spent was somehow in India! Absolutely no insulation in the houses, and it can get really cold at night!
@@pettermct Insulated
Absolutely! The worlds most expensive water and electricity! Well said sir.
In Chicago, USA in January I pay $200 for heat, so it is not that expensive in Portugal to me. But I am not on a locals income. Portugal calls a heatpump an ac, which also provides heat in the south, the Algarve, where my condo is. When I go in January I have to run the 2 ac/heaters 3 days to warm the concrete walls/ceilings. Plus an electric heater in the bathroom. A ceiling fan warms the floor. Jan temperatures are warmer than Lisboa. 45 at night and 62 and sunny in the day if it isn't raining.
Moro no sul do Brasil e aqui as casas são frias! Aquecimento é caro, se elétrico, assim, muitas pessoas andam de casaco e blusão de lã dentro de casa e mesmo assim estão com frio! Há quem tenha lareiras, mas na minha opinião não ajudam muito! A umidade é terrível no inverno e chove bastante! Burocracia é semelhante a Portugal, tráfico dependendo da hora idem! Parabéns por você estar morando no Jardim do Éden! Muitas felicidades! Ótimo vídeo. :)
My Great Grandfather stowed away on a ship in the 1880s to get away from the Azores. He stayed on that ship for a year to get to California shoveling coal into the boilers.
I am from South Africa and have a lot of the same experiences as you! people always say "oh you must hate the cold winter here" and I always try explaining to them because the houses are soooo cold the winters are actually colder in SA. Exactly the same at the bureaucracy point as well. So crazy how we have the same experiences.
I am watching this and it sounds like sitting in SARS with a ticket waiting to resolve an issue. I also saw the average corporate salaries are almost as low in Portugal as they are in South Africa. Yes our houses are not made for winters too.
Ahhh. the late meals in Portugal.. My father worked for a year in Porto, and we went to visit him in the summer. I was in my teens so I usually woke up a bit late ;-) and then we has small breakfast before my father came and picked us up for lunch in the siesta. I of course ate a lot (pizza, meat etc). Then the beach, hot on land, freezing i the ocean. In the evening, around ten, there was dinner with business people, and of course more food :-D
After a week I started eating more fish and running on the beach because I'd gained so much weight in a few days :-D
And yes, my mothers hair lived its own life in Portugal.
didn't cach your point... it's about eating three times a day? something weird perhaps?
I am living in Belgium for almost the same time as you do in Norway and I subscribe all the points you've remarked, especially about the cold during Winter time.
When I say to people here that sometimes I feel colder in Almada (my home town) with 8 or 9 degrees than here in Belgium with 1 or 2 degrees everybody look at me in a funny way, and with that look like I must be kidding or have taken something green that put me in a delusional state.
Why do so many foreigners think Portugal is a tropical paradise is puzzling... mainly when they discover we have mountains (and some of them not so small). Anyway, even if the weather is cold there is light, which unfortunately I miss here a lot. Bye beautiful blue, welcome eternal gray...
Very nice Mon ! I love your videos! I have the same impression as you about Portugal!
From some of the things you described about Portugal it sounds like the times I go and visit my wife's family in California, they are all Portuguese. I enjoy your videos, tusen takk. vi ses!
Your description of the rush traffic in Lisbon really reminds me of the daily commute from Østfold in to Oslo during rush hours. Cruising along at a leisurely pace, and then suddenly you hit Vestby, and everything grinds down to a standstill. A few hours later, reaching Manglerud, things start loosening up. :-S
If you live in the city, and use a bicycle or public transport, the commute in Oslo is of course a lot easier. :-)
And yeah, we insulate our houses well, and are smart about our heating. I notice here in Ireland, they’re not so smart when it comes to heating. I fitted smart thermostats to help save money by not heating when I’m out of the house, so I can totally relate to wearing T-shirts indoors even in the winter. Besides, it’s better for you to not wear too much indoors, and you won’t feel so cold when you do put on the warm stuff and go outside.
I think Norway is dogged by bureaucracy, but fortunately, it’s modern enough that identification is simple, just present a bank card or driving license, and you’re good to go. Here in Ireland, I often need to bring two printed utility bills as proof of address, in addition to some other form of ID, and a letter of endorsement. Er som å stå på hodet og drite i vinkel.
Meu Deus como eu me identifico com este vídeo! Estou ainda a viver em Portugal no Algarve e tudo o que disse no vídeo está mais que certo! Principalmente a água Fria das praias 😅 obrigada pelos vídeos ajudam me bastante! ❤
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Hey girl! I started watching your channel recently. I think you are adorable and have a great personality:) keep it up girl! All the good things coming your way!
Thank you! 🥰
Nice video Mon, very interesting actually I liked this video yes!!!! :)
I have made a big effort in the past few years to be on time for our social events, but it's still a work in progress =D Miss you! Xx
Hahaha I won't complain about you 🥰💕
speaking of punctual, we are at the point where we don't wait for anyone anymore. We eat, celebrate, get on a train at the time agreed to. We've left people behind, ate half the meal without them, sang happy birthday, you get the point.
A minha casinha em Portugal é bem quentinha no inverno..🤗🤗
You might be offended, but you are a very beautiful lady.
Hmm... Maybe I shouldn't have watched this video... I've been considering moving back to Portugal from Sweden, but you've just reminded me about all those things I hate about Portugal. I can totally relate!
Such an interesting video, obrigado! Smoking inside is indeed horrible... Even outside sometimes I get disturbed by this disgusting smell. And the early meals are really good for the health!
Totally agree! ☺️
I love your videos!!
Wait another 10 or so years abroad and you will miss what you do not miss about Portugal. :))
Thanks for a wonderful video. You make some important points for those who may be considering living in Portugal. I like Porto in the summer, but maybe the winters there wouldn't be so pleasant. On the other hand, down in the south the summers may be too hot for my comfort. Even up north in the Douro region the summers can be really hot! I discovered that a couple year ago.
Maybe choose an in-between like mid Portugal ☺️
Across the border in Sweden you can wait 5 to 6 months to get a problem fixed and usually it ius a problem the agency made, not you. Yo can also with anywhere from 10 to 23 hours to see a doctor if you have an accidnet and go to the emergency room. I eat anywhere from 7 to 9 pm and that is in Sweden. So, the grass is always not greener on the other side of the fence. I was nice to hear your opinions on Portugal. Found it interesting. I have only vacationed there so my experiences are limitied.
I've been looking at property in Portugal in preparation to move abroad. Of the list of drawbacks you mentioned the only thing that concerns me is the cold. The region I'm interested in purchasing a country property is between Santarém and Tomar. What do you think about the winters along that stretch? I hate the cold. That's one of the things that drew me to Portugal.
It's more about the type of house you live in than the area of Portugal. In winter it can be warmer outside than inside, really! If cold concerns you, make sure you buy a modern house with central heating, good insulation and a good energy rating, at least a 'C' or better. All houses for sale in the EU must have an energy rating unless exempt. Remember that winters are usually mild in Portugal, and last 2-3 months. Nothing better than being on the sofa with a wood burner pumping out heat, and watching the flames lick their way round the wood.
Its like to talk about Greece 😂. Except the cold water.I have been last summer in oslo and i see so many different think's.I love your video's.Kisses from Greece.❤️
😘 oohh I have to visit Greece! 💕
YES! You did mention the food issue, thank god. I am sick of either starving until 12 or not being hungry enough and missing out because I am not at the restaurant between 12-1300 it's archaic and needs to change.
Thanks for an interesting video! I haven`t heard about most of these things before. Especially I was surprised about the cold winters in Portugal
From what I’ve read Portuguese buildings are made of concrete after the big earthquake and have terrible insulation. Plus to be fair... she is female... most women are always cold no matter what
Great advice!
I've been twice to Portugal during January and I didn't find it bad at all. Maybe I was lucky and had decent weather especially compared to the weather we have in New England at the same time of year. I stayed in a guesthouse and they had good heating so it wasn't a problem. I have been other times of the year too and love Portugal. So much so, I am thinking of moving there. BTW, your English is wonderful. It sounds like you spent time in the US or Canada. Is it hard to make friends in Norway?I have heard that is so.
I love Portugal as well! And I am sure other countries are way worse hehe ☺️ thanks! I haven't lived in a English speaking country, but I went to an mixed Portuguese and British school from 4 to 11 years old. I am sure that helped a lot with my English 😁
I really like this channel....and I am so far away! !
Smoking is something that has been changing a lot in the last few years. The issue is when people go outside and smoke at the entrance of places, then you have to endure that cloud of smoke when getting into or out of the place. The only establishments that still allow smoking inside are shopping centers (some of them have specific smoker corners inside and it stinks all around it), and bigger restaurants which in that case need to have a specific separate area for smokers. It's not mixed in with the rest of the people. So yeah, progress ! Still not 100% there yet though for sure. I do agree with most of the other points. I'd say the most annoying thing is punctuality for sure. I grew up abroad and have this cultural thing of trying to be on time... Never works here, I'll be waiting for everyone for an hour hehe
Smoking om some bars and discotecs os also allowed and I absolutely hate it 😣
In Florida the ocean water temperature is warmer than the air temperature. But wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. Warm winters
Yes, for Florida!! 🌴🌞
Lunch at 1 to 2 PM is just perfect for me . I almost never it dinner and lunch is my main meal. So far so good.
Norway is alot colder other places. I have been unfortunate enugh to live in the coldest parts in eastern Norway, Oslo is pretty warm due to the polution. I do not think it usually get colder then -10 there, but some places -20 is normal. I think Finnmark have had like -50 or something, so I am not complaning. We do have that mess of a burocracy, but it is allat one place, NAV. Guess it is more digital now, so not as bad unless it is the back and forth "that is another department"-thing.
There's more bureaucracy in Norway then in Portugal! But the public system in Norway is better. :)
I loved this video. The beauroCRAZY IS off the charts. And the heater by the bed! You forgot the mold on the bedroom wall and bathroom! I have never in my life had as cold a winter (and i came from New York!!) in my entire life. Cold . to. the. bone.... I literally wore sweaters on my legs. Lol. Very much considering leaving. Great video. Thanks again!
Same experience! Are you still in Portugal?
You will know exactly bureaucracy is when you live in Brazil!!
I just checked humidity in Lisbon. It is between 60 and 70%. Only in January it is 80%. So, no this is not very humid. Obviously you don't know what is like to be in very humid place. I recommend you to visit Florida or central Asia.
Great video!
Jeg skjønner godt at du ikke savner de tingene du tok opp. Du har åpenbart absorbert norskhet i løpet av dine år i Norge, og det er jo veldig bra, Monica.
Hahaha Takk! 😅
Yes, just like Spain. Most properties don´t have proper insulation or heating. It´s horrible. Cold and damp is also not healthy and people get sick and even get pneumonia. In Mallorca, we do have warmer water, that´s true, but do avoid July and August when it is unbearably hot and most beaches will be packed unless you go to somewhere very remote on the island. Also, most people in Mallorca have cars and some families have one car for each person, so traffic has become quite bad and finding parking in Palma is absolute nightmare.
Why do people have to wait one to two hours if they were given an appointment at a particular time? I think people turning up very late to a dinner etc is extremely disrespectful and inconsiderate of others, no matter which country this happens in.
When I went to Lisbon about 12 years ago, I was shocked at how much smoking was going on in the airport. At that time, people were still allowed to smoke in public places. I felt very ill breathing that smoke while waiting for my flight. I think the rules have changed by now though (I hope).
Serbian winter is SO cold but we have good heating ,BUT Autumn is the worst cause my house is so cold ,the central heating doesn't start until November omg aaaaaaaaaaaah.But I swear I need to wear LAYERS of clothes during spring and autumn cause the central heating doesn't work than.I catch a cold inside only ,never outside lol
Norway is amazingly beautiful but is very gloomy in Winter, with very short daytimes -how do you deal with that ?
Like are we talking Minnesota cold or colder?
I went to Portugal in January its not that cold I'm from super warm country ..
Teu inglês é ótimo!
How cold does it actually gets in the room? I see so many people complaining about it) minus 5, 10??
love your channel
Funny you mentioned punctuality as 2 days ago I went to a café that had 8:30am on the door but the person responsible tells me they only open at 9am... Like, if you´re going to open at 9 why does it say 8:30 on the door? It´s very frustrating. I am born, raised and living in Portugal but I´ve always valued punctuality... If you tell me 4pm, I will be there by 3:45 at least.
The cold inside houses depends their quality, I have an house and an apartment but none of them is cold.
Portugal is the only country in Europe that you can have a dinner "on the street" in January, I have witnesses from Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Poland, Hungary, Italy and Spain. In 2017 five small cities have temperature above 45ºC and all territory above 40ºC, balance between cold and hot weather is necessary, you live longer in Norway and you don't know nothing about urban transport, in Lisbon area you can use train, metro, buses any time you want only for 40€ month and from Lourinhâ to Palmela, so you don't need a car, finally you never said that there are more than 300 days of sunshine in Portugal a year, tenha excelentes dias
I do not live longer in Norway than I have in Portugal. I have used plenty of public transport in Portugal, Lisbon included. Although there are a lot of options like you said, transports are usually crowded, badly kept and late. Anyhow, I was referring to Portugal in general, and not just to Lisbon. As I said on the video I love my country, but there is negatives like in all countries. 😉
Yes!!
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I'm looking to connect to people and figure out my role in life and create a beautiful life!
I'm a highly sensitive person (atypical). Being sensitive, I have a nuanced nervous system and senses. I am very detail oriented and I can spot and sense things others may not see.
I'm a highly sensitive person and also very sensitive to communication ( resonance frequencies ). I don't really use my voice as it's very subtle and sensitive. Especially talking to people or listening to people, I am sensitive to their communication. And I will get sick frequently in my body if their communication frequency is dissonant to mine. My health is very effected by this concept. People get very upset and don't understand that I don't use my voice. I'm like a mime but I haven't figured out how to navigate society just yet and/or finding my voice and direction and place in life.
I traveled last year before the pandemic then stayed in Portugal for the pandemic. Recently, my best friend of 10 years and support contact from abroad has dropped support and doesn't want to be my friend anymore so I'm trying to figure out where to live, make money and navigate this totally alone which has always been difficult for me because I get confused easily. I gotta remember my accomplishments!
I'm studying a lot of quantum manifestation thinking so I can create a beautiful life! I'm contacting a lot of random people, therapists, expat groups, farms etc but it's like my message is getting blocked from the universe because it's hard to get in contact with anyone. I'm not sure if Portugal is my place because I don't resonate with a lot of things here, but I'm also trying to shift my approach to the world so I can do what I love. I have faith, but I have to want to figure out what I want.
If you ever want to chat, send me a message! You can find me on insta jenna bonnichsen
I am Portuguese too, but are you comparing houses in norway that are built for very harsh winters with houses that are not built for cold weather? Anyway are you referring to houses built 5 or 6 decades ago? Because nowadays the new building materials , double glazing, and other insulation material, it is very different construction, i own a new apartment in central portugal and hardly need any heating on throughout winter.
You complaining about traffic? Try to cross London from North to South, West to East or vice versa and it will take you two hours or more. The only thing i agree with you is the beaurocracy.
omg croatia and portugal are soo simmilar..
And not cold in Norway?
Interesting video! 1:09 Insulated and warm houses is a relatively new thing in Norway. If you meet some really old folks they may brag about how rough and tough they were as kids, when growing up in houses where the wind blew through the walls. 2:03 Too cold for comfort but not cold enough for winter sports, I understand why that is not fun. 7:52 Meanwhile northern Europeans are slaves to the clock. But I agree, showing up on time both at work and at dinners is the best.
The houses in Norway is perhaps better insulated than in Portugal ?
Yes! Definitely!
Yes, way better. They use wood and central heating.
There's also the possibility that houses in Portugal are built mainly with the hot summers in mind. I mean so they are cold inside without needing the use of AC. i'm not sure how hot summer are in portugal but here in Frane they can be pretty hot so i guess in Portugal it could be even more. Maybe @Mon amie, architect of trade, could shed a light for us on the matter ...
@@MrKLeBlanc Well, it does get hot in Portugal in the summer! But good isolation works both for when it's hot outside and when it's cold. Newer houses are mostly built with good isolation and efficient heating nowadays. But most houses aren't new :/
@@desanipt Thank you! and i guess isolating an old house is neither easy nor cheap hence the pyjama jackets. Now i'm wondering if they have old houses in Norway where they have to where eskimo pyjamas..
Glad you won!! Must not have been termites
As a portuguese working in Norway...the worst for me is the bureaucracy!
Hey, could you give me some advice? I'm from the UK and was considering moving to Lisbon for warmer winters. When you say it's cold, do you just mean the house/apartment which may not have central heating? I thought it was normally around 15*c during the day in January?
Its a point of view. For me 15º is still cold. But in Lisbon in the coldest nights of January temperature can drop to 2-3º (but never negative temperatures) and without heating its unbearable even for a Englishman
In Lisbon my flat has an AC unit near the ceiling in one room. It was practically useless (no insulation/heat didn't dissipate) (and the unit was noisy) so I never used it. As soon as I got home I wore a onesie and slept with 2 duvets. It may be 7-10oc outside but it feels much colder inside, and it's cold to the bone. I have spent winters in subsiberian climates and that was a breeze compared to winter in Lisbon.
About the traffic: isn't there good public transportation in Portugal?
In my opinion, no :/
Lisbon is ok in public transports, the rest of the country not so much. Same crap in England, and I expect that a lot of countries have the same reality. So it’s not a unique phenomena. The thing is, when people go to visit other countries very rarely do they go to Crapville, Middle of Nowhere and see how people live out in the sticks. So what do you do when you’re a tourist? You rent a car so you can go everywhere and not waste the few days you have available, and that makes it harder for foreigners to realize what the reality is for the majority of the nationals. I’m exaggerating of course, in order to make a point. Most cities have some form of public transport, however, it’s not economically viable to do so in small rural areas, which means that they will have few buses that run quite a bit apart from each other. Forget about the subway, that would just become a money pit, you would never get your investment back even if it would improve people’s lives and make it more attractive for others to settle there. Now the Crapvilles out there have their own charm and plenty of qualities, it’s just that it involves more effort for the locals to move about, essentially owing their private form of transport or else it’s quite hard to be competitive and to achieve goals in a society that expects you to step up your game. It’s not uncommon that especially young adults feel that life is passing them by, others in the capital are doing so much better, so they would want to move there. This isn’t anything new, in mainland Portugal a quarter of the population lives the greater Lisbon area. Something quite similar to the UK, and possibly France just to name a couple of countries. A larger population concentration makes it more viable to implement structured transport systems, as an investor you get your money back, or in the case of the State, you benefit a large part of the population and that equals satisfaction for those people and therefore votes when elections come in. No wonder politicians love the combination of ribbons and scissors, it gives a great photo opp and it will look nice hanging in your office wall. That being said, I do prefer the Crapvilles out there, and to me those are just gold when I can go in and relax. Hate the hustle in larger cities, I would just live in the countryside if I was able to. Nature’s hidden gemstones are much better than monuments and wide avenues, heavy traffic and pollution all around. To be able to do it is a huge step if you were born in the city, it all seems beautiful and at the same time alien, it takes a lot of adjustments. I might get the chance to when I retire, don’t want some fancy thing. Just a house big enough for me and my wife, a small backyard where I can grow a few vegetables, have a couple of fruit trees and let the dogs run around. A lot closer to minimalism, possessions are too much of a hassle you tend to forget to live because you’re always tending to something, then you die and you can’t take any of it with you. The Pharaohs tried and they are still getting dug up, so what’s the point? Life should be more about the experience and less about obligations. (I really went off in a tangent there didn’t I?) That’s pretty much it in my opinion. Stay safe everyone
I live in Setúbal, 40 km away from Lisboa and the public transport is good.
i feel like you are talking about tunisia ! haha it s exactly the same facts same things that i reaaallyyy hate there and i m leaving in Austria now where u never find this things :p
Hoje aprendi que muitos dos problemas do Brasil (e do Rio, em especial) são problemas de Portugal. Filho de peixe, peixinho é (existe isso em Portugal)?
Obrigado por expor suas queixas. Acho que me sinto um pouco menos pior com relação ao meu país...? Se bem que não deveria, só significa que, na verdade, livrarmos-nos disso tudo é ainda mais difícil.
Em Portugal dizemos "filho de peixe sabe nadar.", é muito parecido.😀
@Filipe Lobo Querem dizer exactamente a mesma coisa e são duas expressões muito comuns
Traffic? Try driving around the beltway in Washington, D.C.
That's the worst traffic.
;-P
The late thing. Being from the US, where 15 minutes late is considered rude, and I would get up and leave unless they were in a horrible accident, lol. That would make me crazy!!
Mon amie,vivo em Lisboa e adoro os teus videos. Estás a trabalhar em que profissao na Noruega, ou estas a estudar?
Olá!!! ☺️ Sou arquitecta!
@@MonAmieDesserts Otimo! Eu terminei a licenciatura em Direito na FDUL e tenho pensado muito na forma como os paises "escandinavos" vivem, mas nao faço ideia qual a oportunidade para portugueses que queiram trabalhar nas areas juridicas e economicas na noruega, nem vi posts sobre isto na internet. Achas que te posso enviar mensagem no Facebook, tens uma pagina no fb pelo que vi, certo?
Muito obrigado pela resposta! Continua com os videos, sao ótimos, e pelo menos em portugal és a unica a fazer deste conteudo!
Lol,I like it when you tell us that the Portugese people now slowly start to show up more punctually at work!Better late than never!
Você vive na Noruega?
Eu vivo na Suécia e sou Moçabicana. Beijinhos e bom fim do Ano. 😀😀😀😀😀
So cold in Portugal in the winter....LOL! Soooo cold!!! Brrrr..... not in the Algarve for sure where you can grow mango trees, or Lisbon region where you can grow bananas or papayas trees, or even the south east region of Beira Baixa where you can grow pecan trees, not to mention Madeira island or the south west islands of the Azores..... do you really know Portugal?
Do you know that in Lisbon on the Parque das Nações region the houses are connected to a cold and a hot net for cooling and heating? www.climaespaco.pt/images/BrochuraClimaespaco2012.pdf
Winter in Portugal is sad, cold and rain.......LOL! Are you talking about England?
Where in Norway can you get more than 20ºC on January? We have it in Lisbon region or in the Algarve for example. In the Algarve and south Alentejo you "only" have 300 full sunny days per year.
Here you can find what you don't know about Portugal´s off season by a danish young couple:
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By the way, have you ever been to the east coast of the Algarve from mid August to mid October? Do you know that the sea water by that time it's warmer and the temperature on the range of 22ºC~26ºC? Or Porto Santo always above 20ºC from mid June to the end of October? Or even on the Azores eastern islands, always arround 22ºC during the summer season?
@Filipe Lobo The south of Pt had about a 2 year drought, and the reseveroirs were almost empty. Lucky it rained a lot 7 months ago.
Po crl boi
The point is in Portugal you notice the cold much more because many many places are not adequately heated or insulated
Concordo contigo 💯
É do mesmo jeitinho no Brasil. Exceto pela água fria. Hahahaha
Congrats on beeing a Norweigan !
ai ai !
Tem a certeza que viveu em Portugal? conheço muito bem Bergen,chove o ano inteiro... sinceramente gosto muito mais de Portugal e muito mais dos Portugueses!
Minha crítica é a seguinte. Os portugueses não são muito bons com atendimento ao cliente em restaurantes, as refeições são servidas de 12 a 2 como se íssemos comer entre essas horas, caso contrário você fica com fome até a noite. Já vi os clientes sair com raiva porque seu prato está esgotado, e tiveram cozinheiros se recusar a cozinhar um prato porque eu não venho cedo para uma refeição. O resto do mundo, incluindo o resto da Europa, modernizou os horários de almoço e jantar. Quando eu morava em Milão, itália, eu era capaz de comer sempre que eu queria, eu não tinha que ir baseado fora da agenda de outras pessoas.
Estava com medo do frio mas já me compraste com a pouca chuva e a pouca humidade na Noruega. Ta céu cinzento? Ah que se dane. 🤣
Panama relocation tours!!
O inverno aqui no uk e tão quente 🥵 😅🤣😂
I've just moved to Portugal. Maybe I shouldn't have watched this 😂
😅😂
Oh my God, I've been considering moving to Portugal and now this is scaring me... about the cold weather. I can't do the cold weather. I lived it too many years in Chicago. Maybe I'll just go during nice weather seasons.
@@rebeccagutierrez1960 my bf says doesn’t get really cold but don’t let that stop you! It’s a beautiful country and great living there
@@rebeccagutierrez1960 i live in northern italy and trust me. Portugal has warmer winters then the northern italy😂
@@rebeccagutierrez1960 Leaving Chicago for 2 months in the winter is one of the best decisions I have made. But I plug in heaters for 3 days to warm my condo when I arrive.
Cold - move to the south, Lisbon, Alentejo, Algarve are the suniest places in Europe, in the north buy a fireplace of invest in a heating system. Norway is cooooooolder
Humidity - because is warner than Norway
Lack to do - well, same for Norway besides skiing. Lots of sunny days in winter, much more than in Norway
"It rains in Portugal" less everyyear unfortunatly, we need a lot more. Fortunatly few snow, thanks god, another plus for Portugal
Cold water is good indeed and our good fish is awesome because of that, you get use to it
Traffic - agree!
Burocracy - getting better, some northern countries also have it, it is life and they can be very rude
Pontuality - we are latins ;) nothing to do about it ..
Smooking - not more than the northern countries...
luis marques Portuguese people are a mix of different tribes, it’s only their language that is mostly based in Latin. The Lusitanians were a mix of Celtic & Iberians & scared the Romans. Germanic & Celtic tribes tended to colonize the North & the Moors in the centre & south of Portugal.
@@Lori79Butterfly ????
luis marques seriously dude! She can live wherever she wants! I too have travelled & lived in Portugal & I know that speaks the truth. It’s not just about weather but OPPORTUNITIES!
luis marques you said that we are Latins, which is inaccurate & simplistic, that’s why I explained about all the tribes that today’s Portuguese are descendants of & Portuguese, like French, Spanish, Italian, Romansch & Romanian are Latin-based but they do have other influences in there too, it’s not pure Latin!🙄
@@Lori79Butterfly did i say that she cannot live wherever She wants?
Bora
Compared to Norway, it is way better. Should have got heating installed in your house.
I like you🌹🙏
What about the corona virus of your country?
Same one all over the world pretty much
01:14 Depende. Na casa que construí acabei por incluir aquecimento central.
02:13 Não concordo, literalmente. O inverno tem obviamente um encanto que noutras alturas não há, e há muitos dias em Portugal no inverno com sol e muitos mais que na Noruega - é uma altura perfeita para visitar museus, ver paisagens, visitar cidades, o que com 35°C no verão é insuportável. Neve é algo que em Portugal é raro.
02:50 Verdade. Os invernos em Portugal são húmidos, mas os verões são muito secos.
03:55 Não concordo. O Sotavento Algarvio tem águas quentes, com uma média de 24°C em Agosto segundo o IPMA. Mais uma vez, depende muito da região do país.
04:30 Óbvio, as cidades da Noruega são muito menos populosas e têm uma organização que as cidades em Portugal simplesmente não têm. No entanto, tal comparação seria inválida se tivesses ido para França ou Alemanha.
Pois, vieste de Lisboa e da minha zona. Estava a ver...
Não sabes porque é que a 25 de Abril está congestionada? Olha para o tráfego diário e depois para a capacidade da ponte e já verás o porquê...
05:39 Mais uma vez, se tivesses ido para a Holanda, França, Alemanha ou Espanha terias uma conversa diferente.
07:51 Certo, os portugueses não são lá muito conhecidos por serem pontuais. Lá isso é verdade.
09:17 A coisa tem melhorado bastante nos últimos tempos desde que a lei da proibição do tabaco em espaços fechados foi avante em 2017. Desde essa altura que nunca mais apanhei ninguém a fumar nos restaurantes. Acredita em mim: há 20 anos atrás era bem pior...
09:35 Isso é uma tradição do Sul da Europa, faz parte da nossa cultura. Em Espanha e Itália é bem pior.
Em Espanha têm duas horas de almoço.
Fiquei com a ideia que a realidade de Portugal que foi relatada é a de quando se foi embora e depois parou no tempo.... hoje Portugal é considerado o melhor destino turístico do mundo pela World Travel Awards, as ilhas do arquipélago da Madeira como as melhores ilhas do mundo, os passadíços do Paiva como a melhor atração turística de aventura da Europa, etc, etc......
Todas as casas novas desde há cerca de 15 anos têm que ter isolamento térmico obrigatóriamente.
Quanto ao trânsito, Portugal, um país muito mais pequeno que a Noruega tem o dobro da população ao que acrescenta em média 2 milhões de turistas por mês, o que não seria normal é que o trânsito fosse menos complicado..
@@Jesuscger Sim. Mesmo noutros vídeos, dá para ver que ela literalmente não veio muito a Portugal nos últimos anos e ainda tem na sua cabeça a realidade de 2014, quando já estamos em 2020, e em seis anos o país mudou bastante...
What are you doing in Norway??? Move to the islands of Azores
I myself love Azores but wonder if it would be practical to live there for long term as a non Portuguese
The job opportunities are better in Scandinavia & there’s less misogyny in Scandinavia!
@@Lori79Butterfly sorry you felt that way ....not what I normally hear and heard it is one of the better places...unlike France or Spain where women are treated unfairly
Money?
Awesome video mon u are beautiful god bless I plan to shit to Portugal I am from goa live in Ukraine
Are you joke with everybody in Norway the winter is very long and very cold , in portugal in costa is dump but never snow in north interior is cold and snow like 15 days only the snow but the summer's very warm same days more 40 degrees Celsius very hot, In norway summer time 20 at 25 degrees Celsius, in Portugal the old houses de fact is more colder because not have the center heating, but the modern houses has different isolation, and about the atlantic ocean is same ocean the Norway , the Atlantic in Norway is more colder south countries the Europe not comparable weather the Portugal for weather Norway, finland ,Denmark, Sweden,......etc...
**laughs in Egyptian**
Good vid but pls skip the :Oh my Gods". Thanks!
It all has to do with culture and standard of living.