Honestly most of these seem like the reason they’re “not that easy” is because someone working for a promotion/commission would have to put time and effort into the process. That’s not really a good reason to not fix a problem.
Like the only problems with the Whitman gloves was it has to be tested more and to go through an approval process. How are those valid reason for not implementing new potentially better gloves.
@@ethanedwards7756 the issue that Whitman wouldn't sell them the rights to the gloves, they wanted to sell them the gloves as a finished product. As a business you can't do that, imagine if the NFL outsourced footballs and then one season the company that made them makes them twice as expensive. As a company the NFL can either get ripped off, or have to change the iconic ball.
Incompetent commissions is the real for half of MMAs main issues, such as judges like Sal D'AMATO & Chris Lee giving terrible score cards every year without any punishments given despite being terrible at their jobs.
About the gloves... It's exactly 100% "we don't use them, cause we don't use them". It's not like making better gloves is impossible, we don't have material or something like that, it's just some people saying no and most of the community doesn't care so it's not big enough deal. Similar case to instant replays during the fight. UFC can design new gloves and sell it for huge amount of money, commissions supposed to be there for athletes safety so... It would be pretty irrational to deny using safer gloves. Also other types of gloves are not tested, cause we're not testing other types of gloves. It's time to start.
Spot on. This is every Boomer excuse for the past 50 years, we can't/don't/won't because. Not doing something because it would be difficult or time consuming is weak.
You know what they say: The best time To start looking for new gloves was 10yrs ago. The second best time is today. I can't believe the point against them is literally just the sunk costs fallacy with no qualifiers.
There is a simple and effective way to fix the weight cutting problem. I wrestled all through school and we weighed in an hour or two before the meet started. If you cut an unhealthy amount you can't preform well so athletes just don't do it. Problem solved. And rarely did anyone miss weight.
Yeah except you are not depending on school wrestling to fund your life (pay your rent immediately). Fighters will still try to cut weight anyway, and it is a recipe for brain damage.
UFC fighters would absolutely still compete. And be far more drained come fight time. Or fights would be canceled after PPVs were already bought. Why not have walk-in weigh ins? Make your entrance, don't make weight, fights canceled, thanks for your money. I'd prefer multiple weigh ins leading up to the fight. It would atleast stop the drastic cutting in a short time. Too big too close to a fight? Your off, and it gives time to find a replacement.
Honestly, a lot of these issues were presented disingenuously and followed up with “it would never work” or “how would it work”. Seems a little too shallow for these topics considering the other option is staying the same which everyone has issues with. At least implementing any of these changes would open up better discussion because right now every talk like this is for naught
Yeah, they forget that MMA became a thing because it changed the way of how people watch fights and how people actually fight, change is in the name of the game from the beginning
My biggest problem with the video is Number #1 and #2. Like, he says its a harder problem for fighters to get paid more. It's not. The UFC is a public company. You can see how much they make and spend. Last time I checked, fighter pay was something like 18% of their spending whereas other sports it's closer to around 50%. I won't say that fighter pay is as simplistic as just "Pay them more" because more money doesn't just appear out of nowhere. They would either have to cut from another area or make more. That doesn't mean that it couldn't change within a year if they were forced it. And then there's the "Union" issue. While the legal paperwork of forming a union and using it as a legal bargaining tool to sign agreements with fighters as a whole, it ignores the very simplistic purpose of a union, which is group bargaining power. They wouldn't need an actual union if every fighter on the roster agreed that looking out for your fellow fighter will benefit them more in the long term. As they say, a riding tide raises all ships. Instead you have fighters who have bought the UFC's pitch, which is you only get what you deserve. If you're not paid enough, it's not Dana's or the UFCs fault for paying so little, it's yours. I wouldn't be surprised, either, if the highest paid fighters had the mindset of "Fuck you, I got mine. Get your own the way I did." Tommy cant argue against the fact that if the biggest draws of the UFC refused to fight until fighter pay for EVERYONE was raised. The kick in the teeth of this whole mess is the UFC taking fighters ability to make money on their own. The UFC wants to take advantage of the "free market" and tell fighters "Don't like it? Go fight somewhere else." while simultaneously restricting them from taking advantage of the market. It's disgraceful and it should have gotten the same backlash and outrage as the WWE trying to ban "talent" from having Twitch channels.
I want tournaments to come back. It just allows more talented fighters to get a title opportunity without waiting in line forever and being unfairly over looked.
100% tournaments would be such an amazing addition to UFC. But reserved for the big cards. Imagine IFW but with a one night bantamweight tournament for example. Shit would go off.
Na. Bc this is MMA a guy like (I.e. Song yadong catches a guy like petr tan and knocks him out.) now he wins a belt and skips past people like Aldo? Tj dillashaw? Na I don’t think so this is MMA where anything ca happen I don’t see anything wrong with rankings or how fights are put out. Please don’t ever write something as stupid as this in your life
tournaments for a King of the Octagon with a guaranteed title shot before the year is over makes sense because Khabib Priviledge appears to be a mono type relationship to Islam to get to the top of the division while being a virgin to the top ten in the division. People like him cherry picked all the easy fights till this point so he would do the same in the event he was ever a champ of any kind. The tournament should also be optional for all fighters in the division so if no one wants to risk the biscuit except for one dude, guess who is getting a free title shot. It is a good idea
Yea if they do a one night tournament, none of those fighters will see the octagon again. I swear some of you people do not think 😂 this video is whack if you actually know the shit. Only thing I agree on are the gloves and weight cuts
By this logic, anything difficult or anything that encounters challenges should not be attempted because there might be some difficulties along the way regardless if it improves the quality of the sport
That's not the point of the video The point of the video isn't tht it's too hard we shouldn't do it It's your making it seem a lot easier than it actually is hence going back to the "just tackle him" analogy
@@lockdown550 except it is, it is dismissing the fixes without any solutions, as somebody said “Someone needing to put effort in to implement this” is not a valid argument
@@Saber23 it is the point of the video, it is dismissing the fixes without any solutions, as somebody said “Someone needing to put effort in to implement this” is not a valid argument
This video should be titled: "Top 10 excuses plus excuses to simple problems" If everyone saw the problem and no solution mankind would have been long gone
On the East Coast of Australia the early prelims start at 8AM, the prelims at 10AM, the main card at noon on Sunday. It is awesome, because it promotes daytime drinking. 🍻👊🥂
In Poland main card starts usually at 3 am and the worst part is extremely long trailers before main event... Damn how many times i have to rewatch fights, cause i was just falling asleep.
@@davidfoster2629 I just hope guys take this criticism to heart and see that we as fans only want them to get back to their old ways, giving us good content. I don't want them to ingore it as some "hating" bs, cause that's not what it is.
They should really consider a “week-long” weigh in phase. Something along the lines of you have to be within a certain percentage 5 days before weigh in. That way you’re not cutting all your weight in he last days. Make it a longer process. Fighters will learn to better manage their weight in the week (or 2) leading up to a fight. Like if you need to make 155 for the fight, you need to be no more than 170 or 165 the week before. Something like that. I’m just spit-balling.
Disagree. I say make them weigh in 365 times a year and your fight class is what you weighed most of the year. No more 240 pound middleweights. No more weight cut misses surprising everyone week of the fight. Make them fight at the weight they actually are all yearlong, not the weight they can get to for 15 minutes 3 times a year.
Weight cuts should basically be hamstrung to the point where you have to be fight weight for your fight. If you’re 1 lb over your weight class when it comes time for the actual contest, you’re overweight.
@@TW7S95 The point isn’t to be dehydrated. The point is to have a natural lower weight. Guys aren’t gonna be able to cut water weight if the weigh in period is a week-long thing.
@@paulsletten8985 Then we'll have to expand the number of weight classes. There are guys at 155 who weigh all the way from high 160's to as much as low 190's when they aren't training. Also the lower weight classes would become non existent. My only issues with weighing in around the year is weight it so inconsistent. Before even cutting weight these guys drop a ton of weight just working out as hard as they can everyday, and they spend more time outside of camp. Meaning most of their weigh ins are gonna be significantly higher than when they're actually at peak performance after a hard camp with better nutrition.
Respectfully, there’s a difference between someone cavalierly stating something unattainable vs something difficult to attain but a legitimate objective. This boils down to executing any of these is high risk business. But doesn’t make it less worthy of pursuing. Weigh ins is obviously doable tiered on stages. This is the old ncaa way of drug testing for short sprinters which is all I can speak to. Same with body fat% limits. You monitor on the lead up to championship season to catch swings. There would be misses which is bad for business. Gloves, all good points. But they made Reebok happen. Regardless fair point. They COULD do this but it’ll be at an eye watering cost. Unified might be close to impossible given the regulations needing legislature, and thus, bureaucracy. Tough video and position to take but feels like a good reminder that the ufc is a successful business for a reason. And if something hasn’t happened, it’s not always bc they can’t do it. It still has to be good for said business.
I boxed in college and we had same day weigh-ins. It wasn’t an issue and holds people to their truer weight. It actually gives people a better idea of their weight rather than trying to cut weight for weigh-ins the day before the fight and then be surprised by the scale when they miss.
It isn't a problem. No idea why he's trying to make it sound like a problem. It's been solved for years. They don't do it for the big time stuff like this because they love having the fighters cut weight like crazy so they look good in the weigh in promo pics. They don't care about fighter health, just sales.
This makes sense, like if everyone is cutting weight to fight another person also cutting weight then why not just fight each other at your normal weight and weigh in the day of the fight. Who knows?
We did same day for wrestling, regular meets roughly 45mins to 1.5 hours before competition starts. We had to weigh in once wity a hydration test and bodyfat test at the beginning of the season. Not before every competition though. Tournaments gave people who could get a bye round the ability to cut more weight and still be back to form when they compete due to having more time, and we have more weight clases, going from one to a lower one isn't as huge of a drop.
@@chucklebutt4470 you’re right. My comment was mainly to say that same day weigh-ins are not an issue like it’s made out to be. Fighters are equally responsible for deciding to try and cut weight to have an advantage.
I’d like for judges to have to submit a short justification of their scoring for each round. Not much, just “fighter x had more control time but took 3 heavy shots, so I gave fighter y a 10-9.” It’s not a complete solution, but it would force more discussion and clarity
This is a pretty decent idea, people wouldn’t be so left in the dark with what that judge saw if they gave a brief explanation. Problem is these athletic commissions who hire these refs and judges are all mafia ran, there’s a reason why the judges scoring is on point and completely off at times and that’s because the house never loses. It all ties into Vegas which is where all the betting odds are based from and they very much rig the game in their favor as much as they can
They'd strike over that lol. You see how little they can handle criticism of bad calls already, when their reasoning is there for you to poke holes in it would be way worse
Increasing fighter pay would involve increase the percentage of the revenue that goes to the fighters. As opposed to the current 12-15%, it could match other American sports that reach 50% split. Also adjusting contracts from independent contractors vs employees would cause a big difference
Figthers are definitely employees, especially since implementation of USADA. And you are right, but some moron running this channel will tell you that UFC would just die without their 80+ percent. I used to love those guys but fuck, they are shilling for UFC so hard now.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 idk about this channel being shills but I was disappointed that fighter pay was one thing they mentioned here. I'm fairly certain ufc fighters aren't considered employees but rather independent contractors. They, however, get all the negatives of being an independent contractor (no health insurance, travel benefits, retirement benefits and no training costs covered) while getting none of the advantages of being independent contractors. A move taken directly from wwes handbook of sleazy moves. Not to forget the god awful sponsorship control that UFC has on the fighters. Its definitely doable and not something that's impossible. Just not very beneficial for the company on a whole which is a load of bs
@Fu Duck you seem to have a tone of outrage as well oddly enough. Maybe he could have made more of a concise argument but it's a comment section ffs. If you dont see that the fighters are getting shafted then you are drinking some DFW kool aid. Other than the argument of "if u got the answers just go do.it yourself" being piss poor, that line of thinking nobody can complain about anything. Dont like how the president's handling things? Stfu and just run for president yourself if it's so easy...😑 The main problem is revenue splits, and yes the UFC is screwing the fighters. Bellator fighters receive 45% of revenue splits and Bellator is still turning a profit despite having a much smaller market share. Theres definitely overheads we dont know about when it comes to paying combat sport athletes but if you think that 16% is their fair market value I want whatever you're smoking. Yes Dana built the company up to where it is now (with the help of his billionaire buddies who put up all the money).and hes been more than fairly compensated. Hes worth several hundred million, just from his share of UFC while paying athletes that risk their health more than any other sport by far a few thousand dollars for show money in some cases. As obnoxious as McGregor can be, the amount of revenue he brought into the UFC vs his pay in the beginning was an absolute joke. Should have been getting at least 20mil before ppv points, not 2mil during the height of McGregor mania...that's a fkn joke. Since theres no union they're gonna continue to get horrible compensation for the value they bring because it's a dictatorship as of right now and the leader is only beholden to his shareholders and increasing profit margins, not what's in the best interest of the fighters which is why the UFC needs a union more than any other sport....you'll see if there ever is a union all the sudden fighters will magically get paid way more and the UFC wont go out of business, kind of proving the point why so many people are rightfully in favor of increased fighter pay and workplace rights
@Fu Duck yes we love the UFC bootlicker right here, they’re severely underpaid, 15/20% of a fixed billion dollars without even ppv numbers etc is an awful deal, they dont get paid what they’re worth either
I'm from the UK, I almost always watch the card first thing on Sunday morning, I sometimes work Sundays and ill go to work early to watch it, I wouldn't dream of paying $80 though, I pay £20/month for BT Sport which gives me all UFC/Rugby/Football etc
Yeah same here, thank god for BT sport making the PPV's as part of the normal monthly plan. They did trial out making us pay for PPV (they did this for Jones vs DC) and everyone complained so they scrapped it... they do still make anh conor fight a PPV too but in the grand scheme of things I guess that's understandable
I'd say a mix of on-the-day weigh-ins or incremental weigh-ins throughout the year. Stick more near a healthy weight vs stumbling around the day before or ending up in the hospital or missing the fight. The glove issue seems to be purely that UFC wants to own the gloves vs it being an MMA-wide thing.
Yes, the same thing I thought. If these guys are really 'athletes' dedicated to their craft and getting paid like it, most importantly, then they should be able to stay around a certain weight all year round. I can and I am not a professional fighter. I am 6´3" and hover around 180 12 months a year. I get sick? Down to 170. Holidays and beer (stopped drinking back in '14), 190-195. Point is, never more than 15 pounds from 180. Never in probably 20+ years.
Absolutely. Take the fighters weight randomly once a quarter or more and that determines their weight class. That would solve the bulk of the health issues. No solution is perfect, but we can do better to protect these fighters.
Do a list of the following: -vibranium chins -flashiest styles -best head movement -fighters who are definitely being protected by USADA -smartest game plans that backfired somehow
- Female fighters who don't have daddy issues. - Male fighters who are probably gay but would never admit it. - Ben Rosett's top fights that were never filmed.
What kind of shitty logic is that? "Same day weigh ins are stupid to get rid of weight cutting because the fighters have to still cut weight" Well how about they just fight at their natural weight, which this would force them to do
One thing to remember about “rules” and “sport” is that no one wants to watch their favorite fighters die in the octagon, especially if there’s “anything” we can do about it. If you watched the original UFC (and liked it as I have), you’ll remember that there was no such thing as a “doctor stoppage”, someone almost had to die before big Jon stopped it. That’s where the “rules” began. So IDGAF, I like safe and competitive fights, not one sided executions. Just my two pennies, also “super necessary”.
@@dun0790 Can’t argue with you there. That comes down to “legalities” and “governing” bodies. In all reality, we as free individuals can do whatever the hell it is that we want. If we want to fight in a back alley, go for it! But, if you want to make money off of it, then that shit needs to be regulated because some people will set up fights with absolutely no fux to give. That’s where the “governing bodies” come into play. Let’s be real, it’s a racket, it’s a mob, you have to pay the mob tax to get the mob off your back. Uncle Dana has been paying a lot of mob tax to bring us the blood and gore that we so lovingly crave. Are you not entertained? Lol But really, yes, there are stupid rules 🤦♂️🤷♂️ it is what it is 🤷♂️
@@dun0790 Progress takes time. Eventually if it becomes a large enough problem (eg - fighters losing eyesight due to pokes), the commissions could change the regulations and the UFC would be obligated to comply. In the meantime, it benefits the UFC more to use the design they're currently using than to use a design they don't own the patent on, meaning they could be required to pay licensing fees in order to manufacture them, and could have issues with selling licensed gear.
ye, the first UFC events were rough, no one wants to go back there. I think pride was just fine, there were no more or less major injuries than in any other combat sport. my perception is, that most rules are very favorable for grapplers because they limit the ability to strike and I think fights would be better if people could not just turtle up on the floor or put down a knee (cough aljo cough) and limit their opponents' weapons by doing so.
I've been watching your videos for a couple of years now, and am a HUGE fan of your work... (of course there's a "but" coming) But... Your tongue was firmly up the UFC's ass today. There are tonnes of solutions to (most) of these issues that may not be perfect, but would be much better than the status quo. Let's get back to our roots, boys. No one likes the UFC's media engine. It's one video, but be careful!!!
I will just copy my other comment here: Weight misses on the day of the card? Boo-fucking-hoo, move up a weightclass then. Rumble had to, Costa had to. Also stop shilling for the UFC, I know you work with them kinda close now but fuck, do you hear yourselves guys? You telling us that "UFC Logo" is more important than fighters not getting poked as much? As for judging, there are new judges coming Herzog is great for example, Keith Peterson no slouch either. Do we really need I Smoke Too Much Herb Dean? Hard to get on his level? What fucking level? That union stuff with GSP "fell apart at the start"? Right, but you know why and you aren't mentioning it here. Wonder why?
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 oh, absolutely! MMA On Point will find out really quick that the only people they’ve got left to talk to are the people who think Sean O’Malley is going to be champ.
Colorados athletic commission to my understanding has fully approved the One championship rule set, from their judging, to knees on the ground, to even their weigh in system. If One ever makes it over here and starts doing cards in Colorado, and wherever else they can get approved, then it could get interesting comparing those to the UFC cards also happening in the US.
You'd see a fighters union happen overnight if just days before a major card like 276 champions like Izzy and Volk refuse to compete until there's some sort of collective bargaining agreement. The reason why union efforts of the past failed is that they were headed by people already retired (gsp, Randy Couture), on their way to retirement (cowboy) or journeymen (Leslie smith), its kinda easy for them to put their necks on the line. No major sports union was created by over the hill and middling competitors, You need people who are currently at the top of the sport willing to put their professional accomplishments on the line to spark that change. You hear guys like Jorge, Colby, Jones, Diaz and Ngannou speak out on fighter pay and other grievances but when daddy Dana dangles a carrort in front of them suddenly they get quiet, once they get something out of their public statements they quickly forget the " *WE* " in those statements. And that's why Dana and the WWE can operate the way that they do cause non of their top stars are willing to miss out on a few paychecks in the short term to benefit everyone in the long-term
@@ipman49 yes kid unless you're indispensable to profits you have no leverage this is quite common knowledge amongst those with an income. Also UFC fighters crying about pay would be fighting for $50 in a parking lot without the UFC.
@@rbnz3286 ........ you might want to actually look at the history of labor unions and how much they benefit the work force. While you at it also look up how much NBA, NHL, NFL and MLB players were making before unionization and how much their pay and benefits shot up within 10 years of unionization. My department in ups is literally in charge of finding and firing undesirable employees and unless the guy outright steals something or shows up to work high on coke its almost impossible to fire them without literal years of documented incompetence, why? Cause UPS employees are teamsters and their labor reps are cold blooded
I once read an article about why bamboo isnt used more instead of wood and 90% of the reasons were basically "well we have always done it this way" this video feels very much like that.
The weight cutting is something that needs looking at cause people are risking their lives to begin with fighting so getting a guy walking around 30+ lbs heavier than their weight to drop is adding needless risks and then imagine if they are a fighter that has to jump in like masvidal did and he was heavier then needed and untrained for said fight within a reasonable time frame
0:10 This reminds me of the translated corners' simplified messages to fighters by broadcast translators who have no knowledge of the sport: "fight them. kick his legs. errr.. punch him. go forward. fight your oppoonent. win the fight. he is tired. you are not tired. kick errr take him ... give him some wrestling move... on his arm... arm-wrestle at the pub? the bar? Oh give him--do the Arm Bar....!!!!"
The point of this list isn't to say these solutions can't be/aren't viable. There's nothing in this video that says we shouldn't try to find solutions, or even use these specific solutions. Something being hard to do doesn't mean I don't want us to do it or that we shouldn't because it's hard. The point of the video is the amount of effort that would be required to make these changes that so many seem to think could just happen in a flash or so easily is more complex than people think, and in many cases is the reason we haven't yet seen these "simple" solutions implemented.
We don’t have the luxury of having been around 100 years to work out the kinks. Look at the rule changes in any sport, many are still changing rules every couple of years. They do seasons upon seasons worth of research generally. A lot of our issues aren’t as game breaking or occur as often as issues that come up in other sports so they just don’t get fixed.
On the point of event times. It really depends on where you live. For Aussies/Kiwis UFC normally starts around midday on a Sunday which is perfect to go to the pub with friends.
But it is, your video is saying that idea sucks and should be dropped because it requires effort and time. Otherwise it is a pointless video, we know it takes time and effort, nobody is that stupid to believe that
My one issue will always be the matchmaking. These guys should not have to go into press conferences as some made up character to sell their talent when the UFC can simply just make the damn fights. Why did Leon have to wait so long? Why does Beneil have to wait so long? Thank goodness we are not getting Figgy vs Moreno 4 right away. These guys need to fight based on their rank, or just go by who has the most followers on twitter if popularity trumps all.
Great video, as always. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I feel like the fighter pay issue really isn't a hard one to solve. Lower win 'bonuses' and add that money to show. Of course everyone wants higher payouts period, but that every job ever. I'm not saying there should be no incentive for winning, but half your check isn't an incentive. Even fighting 4 times a year, which has gotten more difficult as the sport progresses, at 12:12 is a joke. And yes it's a lot of paperwork, but the UFC does control it entirely and already spends money and time fighting to keep payouts low.
I think a good way to fix the weight cutting situation is to have a walk around weight limit for each division that you would have to be close enough to to discourage weight cutting severely
Yeah, they could randomly test your weight as well as your urine, or have you weigh in at the beginning of camp and only be allowed to cut a certain percentage from then.
I can't agree with these because they're reduced to "it's too hard so it wouldn't work". If promoters had this mindset, MMA would still be an underground production waiting for approval. If fighters had this mindset then let's face it the sport would be empty. A solution can't be thrown out the window just because it's difficult.
The only thing I have a problem with here is weight cutting as a long time wrestler I seen the weight cutting that was happening before my state instated exactly what you said and after the whole point is fight at your healthy weight.
“But what if someone cuts too much and is dehydrated on fight night” then they shouldn’t be fighting at that weight class if they can’t make weight it in a healthy safe way. How that is not an easy solution I’ll never understand.
@@ethanedwards7756 Yes, that makes sense to us, but are any of the arguments in this video to the benefit of the fighters? It seems like everything is about protecting Dana's wallet first and the brand second. Fighter's health is barely a consideration for the list maker here.
@@ethanedwards7756 Health often takes a back seat to gaining a performance-enhancing advantage; weight cuts are no exception. Weight cuts effectively make weigh-ins (and even weight classes) pointless, especially when the last weigh-in is more than a full day before the fight, which gives fighters time to put all of that water weight back on before the fight starts. Fighters have figured out how to cheat the system to give themselves a weight advantage. Weight cuts (particularly the "water weight" cuts that have become the norm) are only a thing because they allow fighters to fight at weights significantly above the upper weight limit of the division they are officially fighting in. One option would be to implement a rule that requires your fight weight to not only be within the weight limits of the weight class you are fighting in, but be within 5% of your average walk-around weight over the ninety days before a fight or you fail the weigh-in, and have documented daily weigh-ins to monitor average weight in order to ensure that fighters weigh what they claim to weigh, including a weigh-in right before they enter the cage on fight day, which would be their official fight weight. This would completely eliminate unhealthy "water weight" cuts and almost entirely mitigate any need to cut more than a few pounds for any given fight. Just as important, it still allows fighters to change weight classes if they want (and even fight in multiple weight classes). Most fighters would balk at that idea though, because it takes away their ability to game the system. I see and hear a lot of bullshit excuses being given for why drastic "water weight" cuts are "necessary" and "unavoidable', and they are laughable every single time. If fighters were required to fight at or near the same weight they walk around at, unhealthy "water weight" cuts like we see many times every single weekend would be completely eliminated, and none of the recurring weight cut "problems" we so often see would be a thing. I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen, though.
600 bucks to judge 1 fight? Holy shit where do i sign up? Even if it's not rolling in money it's still higher then minimum wage if you do 3 fights a week
Tommy moaning about the main card starting at 10 and post fight pressers finishing at 2am while I’m here in the uk main event starting at 3 and lucky to make it to the post fight pressers.
Honestly I think Soccer kicks and knees to downed opponents being illegal is one of the best rule changes made in the UFC. What skill is used in stomping a dudes face in until he's unconscious? That isn't a "mixed martial art" lmao. If I wanted to see that, I's go look up street fights on RUclips since it takes no skill and literally ANYONE can do it. Seeing martial artists perfect their form and win using their skills instead of simply holding a dude down and kneeing/ kicking him in the face is way more fun to watch, and it shows the fighters skill
While it's implementation would be extremely complicated with numerous stakeholders and regulations that would need to be considered and accounted for, a fighters union would solve a lot of the problems with the UFC. Especially fighter pay. The complexity of it's execution, doesn't invalidate the merits of a solution Its almost like pervasive problems warrant comprehensive and sophisticated solutions
I spoke to Marc Goddard at a seminar discussing the unified rules and he said the reason the 12 to 6 elbow is still illegal is because it is actually a dangerous strike. He said it would primarily be used in a ground and pound situation and in that case the elbow fits naturally/comfortably slides into the orbital bone/eye socket and would hit there most often. That can cause serious, long term damage to the skull and permanent blindness quite easily.
I love MMA on Point and I love Tommy Toe Hold but this video was not it. It was basically 15 minutes of “but ackshually things are more complicated than that”. Take the gloves one: there’s nothing actually stopping the UFC, other than their need to control the branding in EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE BROADCAST, from adopting safer and more effective gloves. So they wouldn’t have their Logo slathered all over the gloves that are moving at high speed and barely legible? And? The UFC logo is on the cage, on the canvas, on the screen between every round and between fights, etc etc etc. Imagine if the NFL banned Nike cleats because they didn’t want wide receivers running around with the Swoosh logo on their feet. It would be stupid. This whole video seems to try to dunk on what people are tweeting when twitter is not a place to propose fleshed out solutions anyway. The gloves should be changed to Whittman’s design, end of story. The fact that they haven’t yet isn’t because the “issue is complicated” it’s because the UFC is actively choosing not to address it.
I get that this is the reality but this list ended up being extremely redundant. Most of it boiled down to “it’s too hard and takes too much time not gonna happen 🤷🏼♂️”
adding a couple judges who exclusively watch and score the fight by watching the broadcast on a screen , without commentary,so they see what we see, and so the commentators don’t sway them. Perhaps even without the crowd to taint there decision. I think this could help with scoring as I sometimes wonder if a judges position cageside could be the cause of some of the wacky scores we see. If the action is all happening on the other side of the cage then you can’t accurately score the fight from your position. Also monitor judges finances and pay them better. Fighters have to agree to be tested randomly by USADA as part of fighting, I think it wouldn’t be too much to ask if as a judge you are scrutinized a little more than usual, and as a sweetener for this they get paid a bit more . Or just plain and simple, judges should be held accountable and made to explain some of the wacky scores . Wow! Can’t believe you read all that, cheers 🍻😉
One issue that exists with a fighters union is that, it would need the top fighters/champions to be members in order to have leverage. And in MMA, there's a shorter shelf life as a champion or contender, which could give them that leverage. Also, as someone mentioned below, if right now Adesanya or Oliveira, started talking about a union, Dana will dangle a nice dollar amount to keep them quiet and happy.
O'malley's punch to the left eye of Pedro is what did the damage not that little eye poke to the right eye of Pedro, that's why Pedro's left eye is the one swollen shut
@@dersatansschuh4426 cause O'Malley blinded him with an overhand right to his left eye, and then accidentally poked his right eye so pedro took the way out of the fight he had no way to win, also its you're own problem if you don't know what you're watching pedro landed zero strikes to head or body and more than half his leg kicks were checked, checked leg kicks count against the person throwing them, doesn't matter either way though tko doctor stoppage
You know how Vince McMahon has the WWE Network on Peacock? Doesn't Dana White and the UFC have a deal Fite? If not then they should because then we could watch MMA fights whenever we want.
I'm curious to see what fighters kidneys will look like later in life. It can't be good to dehydrate yourself so severely so many times like fighters do. Like Joe says "weight cutting is just legal cheating, you way the weigh in weight for 10 minutes then the next day you're 15-30 pounds heavier
Gleison Tibau was over 200 pounds when fighting at 155. That was from a compilation of fight night weight that fighters/coaches themselves shared. No idea who he fought against that particular night tho.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 that's crazy. That was when IVs were still allowed though so it made rehydration alot easier. Since they banned them it makes it alot harder to lose that much weight
The weight cutting thing is kinda hilarious. Wrestling solved this problem 20 years ago. My first two years in college were under the old rules (which are pretty much the UFC rules), but then they changed to the current system (same day weigh in within an hour or two of the start of competition). Wrestlers still cut weight, but its incredibly manageable, and no one is engaging in physically weight cuts that are dangerous to their health because it leaves them to weak to compete.
Safe to say these problems are being made bigger than than the solutions that have been laid out by people that have been named in this video lol. I get it though, gotta make this video has some sort of credit so might as well try to discredit other people's perfectly viable solutions to most problems in this video like the gloves or scoring system.
Nah it’s literally as simple as this - up the % of revenue which is paid to athletes. That. Is. It. Hating on Jake Paul really worth arguing with increasing fighter pay? That’s a man fighting for the right things so get behind it don’t defend the business bs
Dude the fact that you're complaining that you have to go to bed at 1-2 AM cause the main card is "oN tOo LaTe" really has me laughing as a guy living in Spain where the main card usually starts at 4 AM meaning that if I'm lucky I sleep at 7 AM LOL
The weight cutting I heard from onefc is that it pairs down the 20% weight cuts to 10%. I feel like the better solution is usada random weigh in 3 months before the card to ensure the fighter is within reasonable range before the fight.
Yes, they need to do something like this, because the real competition becomes who can risk their life the most by cutting the most weight in the shortest time, so you have people in a weight class above fighting in a weight class or even 2 below, which is inherent unfair. The competition is supposed to be fighting, not weight cutting.
The problem with scoring fights is that it will always be subjective. Regardless of the way you judge them whether it's 10-9 or just "choosing" who won its still subjective. Some people put a lot of stock into damage, but some fighters cut up easy and others don't. It will never be cut and dry. 10-9 I think offers standards that are easier to follow IMO
Living in Australia, all the UFC events start in the morning and finish at midday or mid-afternoon. On Sunday. It's like church. No problem with UFC start times.
Nah, the best way to deal with eye pokes is to take a point on every one, intentional or no, and also give the judges the ability to take that point from a replay. When it actually can impact the outcome of a fight, you'll see a lot less of them, and if it can be evaluated in replay to actually catch it every time it happens, fighters will start keeping their hands closed in striking and then opening them for grappling rather than keep them open because there are really no consequences.
Weight cutting can be fixed... Miss 2 times your fired .. your a professional god damnit... Have backups waiting for every fight. Half the roster are at the fights anyway. .stars that will evolve will be able to make weight so you won't have to worry about their fights getting cancelled.. if you miss weight it means all the expenses from camps fighters that miss weight will have to pay without getting a paycheck...teams will not stick behind fighters that can't make weight when they don't get paid... It can be done if weigh ins are same day... Levels the playing field... Fighters that fight their natural weight are at a disadvantage now... New stars will emerge to replace the cheaters cutting 30lbs a fight... No more excuses of a bad fight due to weight cut.. I can go on and on...there are positive and negatives with everything... All sports are and/or have been fixed if not for outcome then to have the event in the first place
Agreed! If the Wittman gloves are untested, then use the Pride gloves since Zuffa bought up Pride anyway. If the issue is with state athletic commissions, well at least submit them for those annoying hearings and if they do get turned down, fans will know which state's governors to call.
Dude 5'11 fighting people who are 5'6 no different than a High Schooler beating up on Middle Schoolers, if he wants to be the best maybe he should face someone his size and prove it...
Fighter pay is simple. The UFC currently pays 12-15% of the revenue from cards to the fighters. That’s simply ridiculously low to start with, and increasing this revenue split would increase fighter pay. I believe the NFL is a 50% split.
The NFL is the most popular sport in the United States. Giving away 500mil when you get 500mil when you have a built-in fanbase is probably easier than giving 5mil away when you "only" get 5mil. Obviously not the real numbers, but yknow
If you are a professional fighter with professional coaches, nutritionists and so on you should be able to keep your weight steady. You dont have to come in on fight day exactly on the maximum allowed weight you can be a bit lower. And it would make the weight of the fighters during the fightnigt closer to each other than the current system because right know depending how much weight you are able to cut you might bulk up way more than your opponent. So its that simple. Weightins right before the fight (maybe early in the morning or a few hours earlier). But the fighters should keep their weight within the range the weightclass is supposed to be. For example if you know you are allowed to weight a maximum of 155 but could also weight like 150 then you keep your weight within that range and voila problem solved. No dangerous weight cutting, even range of the weight differences would be smaller for sure. Ofcourse maybe a few times people get bulkier/fatter/dont want to train as hard/whatever the reason might be to get heavier, but its not like with the actual weight cuttin there are no fighters not making weight.... And as you can just keep a weight during the fight camp you now way earlier if you can reach your goal because you dont have to cut it last minute but you have basically your full camp to get to the weight you want to keep. You could even throw in a pre-weightin with 5 pounds higher range a week earlier or half a month earlier.
I think half point scoring would solve a lot of the problems without having to overhaul all the rules. Coin flip rounds are 10-9.5, normal rounds are 10-9, dominant rounds with control/moderate damage 10-8.5, dominant rounds with knockdowns/ref should’ve stopped it probably 10-8. Not a perfect system, but it would stop 10-9s from being everything between 10-9.99 and 10-8.01 like it is now.
I had a similar idea, 3 point system: 0 for an even round. +1 for winning a close round. +2 for solidly winning a round. +3 for dominantly winning a round.
I really think O'Malley did a good job pointing out the absurdity of the Judges in the post fight interview. Judging needs evolving. It needs to be improved. We need replay reviews. MMA guru pointed out O'Malley damaged Pedro's eye with that super accurate punch. Great video man. It's spot on! Literally its the correct eye, he showed how he started having issues with his eye from that punch then on, so everyone who said Pedro was milking getting his right eye touched was correct because its Pedro's left eye that's destroyed. O'Malley deserves credit for literally damaging Pedro to the point of stopping with in a round essentially... So I hope they see what that video pointed out because it is spot on. I'm really disappointed in the weasel's video. I really thought he was going to make a better breakdown but apparently he was so much of a Pedro fan that he couldn't even accurately asses the fight... Check out the mma guru RUclips channel he breaks down exactly what actually happened that we all missed in real time. O'Malley's just that fast.
Fixing the weight cutting problem: every time a ufc fighter gets usada tested, they get weighed. You take the 5-10 weights the fighter came in at and you assign them a minimum weight class at the end of that year. It’d be a mess for a few months with titles having to be moved, re-fought for, etc but imagine the fights we’d see if fighters didn’t have to cut serious weight. Maybe 5-6 lbs and that’s it. The fights would get better and the worst part about being an mma fighter(having to cut weight) disappears. You’d get guys are their best and no more weight bullying. More fair, more safe and better fights.
I live in south africa so being a ufc/combat sports fan means I have to wake up at 01:00 to start watching and it ends around 07:30-08:00. I usually cancel everything the next day and sleep the whole Sunday to be fresh for work on Monday
I think the biggest issue around judging fights is the 10-9 must, and closed scoring. Not only should we use open scoring, which yes I understand comes with a set of its own problems, but if we are gonna use the 10-9 must which we do, it needs to be tweaked. Not every round is even. Someone could narrowly scrape a 10-9 in a round that ultimately could have gone either way, but in another round score the same 10-9 in a round they won every second of. Judges should start implementing 10-8s more liberally. You can see rounds where even multiple knockdowns are scored where it’s still scored a 10-9. I think a 10-7 should be a round we all today think of as a 10-8 round. The last time I can remember a 10-7 is one judge giving that to max Holloway after he went super Saiyan god mode on kattar and even then, it might have also been just multiple 10-8. I think if a fighter narrowly wins a round, it’s a 10-9. If the round could go either way, 10-10, and if a fighter dominantly wins every second of a round 10-8. 10-7 can be a dominant round, where a fighter also scores knockdowns. When you factor this in and the more liberal useage of scoring other then just your standard 10-9 for everything outside of a utter domination, on top of open scoring, it would really help out. Yes I get that this could result in more draws, but with open scoring it means the fighter who’s up if they decide to coast could lose a fight they’d normally have won coasting, and a fighter who’s down will go into overdrive to try and win, and even if it does result in draws, in my opinion that is a LOT better then fighters winning controversial decisions because we are treating every round as equal when they clearly aren’t.
I agree 100%, I think what a lot of fans just want to say is "stop being s*** do better.." but saying that to a fighter doesn't really help them out as a matter of fact I think it does quite the opposite
Weight them 24 hours before the fight. Then weigh them again before they step in the cage literally. The two numbers must be in a tolerance based on weight class.
#8 could be possible, you would have to get all the states to agree that a centralised regulatory body decides what the "unified" rules are, much like how the UFC got MMA "legalised" across the country. If there is a rule change/modification, then a vote would be proposed, and if it passes with a majority, then that is the new rule across the board.
Correct me if I’m wrong but #1 feels a bit dumb. Why would you cut weight right before a match? You need to actually fight. What’s the point if you’re so dehydrated you can barely stand? Any fighter in their right mind would be in optimal health for a fight. I think it would promote a more fair weight class - where fighters strive to be as close to the cut, while fully hydrated and healthy - but most would probably be a bit under the limits, as opposed to above.
Fucking love this channel, only dreamed of something like this growing up. Heaps of effort put into videos, well researched, great points and no definitive truth, little to no bias. Well done mate(s), best of luck to you all and congrats on the new channel. Also, just my opinion but great move on your part investing in personality driven MMA content.
if you watch how the UFC books the rankings, you realize it's a little bit more of a tier system at this point over hard set individual numbers. Top 3-5 are almost always people you'd see in a title fight, whether just a win away or whatever. They're all fighters that can usually be put in a title fight. 6-10 is usually your gatekeepers, midcard lifers, and upcoming fighters, and 11-15 tends to be gatekeepers, struggling fighters, and newcomers just breaking through. Still subject to bookers discrepancy, but its not super inconsistent from this formula
I can’t relate to what it feels like to weight cut, but every time I see that footage of Cyborg I can tell it’s pure hell….. unless you Izzy, he does that like butter….But he’s an outlier
I want to see specific weight classes in the ufc for better match making & flexibility on match making. I also think if we added one or two more rounds but limited the rounds from 5 to lets say 4 minute rounds would be a lot more entertaining
Honestly most of these seem like the reason they’re “not that easy” is because someone working for a promotion/commission would have to put time and effort into the process. That’s not really a good reason to not fix a problem.
Like the only problems with the Whitman gloves was it has to be tested more and to go through an approval process. How are those valid reason for not implementing new potentially better gloves.
@@ethanedwards7756 but hey, ufc logo is more important than fighters not getting poked as much, right? This channel changed a lot. A lot.
@@ethanedwards7756 the issue that Whitman wouldn't sell them the rights to the gloves, they wanted to sell them the gloves as a finished product. As a business you can't do that, imagine if the NFL outsourced footballs and then one season the company that made them makes them twice as expensive. As a company the NFL can either get ripped off, or have to change the iconic ball.
Incompetent commissions is the real for half of MMAs main issues, such as judges like Sal D'AMATO & Chris Lee giving terrible score cards every year without any punishments given despite being terrible at their jobs.
lol right
About the gloves... It's exactly 100% "we don't use them, cause we don't use them". It's not like making better gloves is impossible, we don't have material or something like that, it's just some people saying no and most of the community doesn't care so it's not big enough deal. Similar case to instant replays during the fight. UFC can design new gloves and sell it for huge amount of money, commissions supposed to be there for athletes safety so... It would be pretty irrational to deny using safer gloves. Also other types of gloves are not tested, cause we're not testing other types of gloves. It's time to start.
Spot on. This is every Boomer excuse for the past 50 years, we can't/don't/won't because. Not doing something because it would be difficult or time consuming is weak.
@@mgriffe54 fr it's very obvious health risks and other shit and their like, nah we don't wanna
You know what they say: The best time To start looking for new gloves was 10yrs ago. The second best time is today.
I can't believe the point against them is literally just the sunk costs fallacy with no qualifiers.
Except Dana wants an exclusive rights only to Trevor’s gloves. Trevor wants the global market….and why wouldn’t he?
Exactly! No excuses. How many years have they used these inferior gloves? They just don’t care enough.
There is a simple and effective way to fix the weight cutting problem. I wrestled all through school and we weighed in an hour or two before the meet started. If you cut an unhealthy amount you can't preform well so athletes just don't do it. Problem solved. And rarely did anyone miss weight.
Yes, his argument that people get dehidrated and get hurt doesn't make sense. You don't do a Khabib weight cut if you have 2hr before the fight
Yes, his argument that people get dehidrated and get hurt doesn't make sense. You don't do a Khabib weight cut if you have 2hr before the fight
Yeah except you are not depending on school wrestling to fund your life (pay your rent immediately). Fighters will still try to cut weight anyway, and it is a recipe for brain damage.
@@FManga18 imagine though. Khabib would actually have to fight Kamaru Usman. Colby would have to fight Poirier and nobody has any excuse 😂
UFC fighters would absolutely still compete. And be far more drained come fight time. Or fights would be canceled after PPVs were already bought. Why not have walk-in weigh ins? Make your entrance, don't make weight, fights canceled, thanks for your money. I'd prefer multiple weigh ins leading up to the fight. It would atleast stop the drastic cutting in a short time. Too big too close to a fight? Your off, and it gives time to find a replacement.
Honestly, a lot of these issues were presented disingenuously and followed up with “it would never work” or “how would it work”. Seems a little too shallow for these topics considering the other option is staying the same which everyone has issues with. At least implementing any of these changes would open up better discussion because right now every talk like this is for naught
Yeah, they forget that MMA became a thing because it changed the way of how people watch fights and how people actually fight, change is in the name of the game from the beginning
My biggest problem with the video is Number #1 and #2.
Like, he says its a harder problem for fighters to get paid more.
It's not. The UFC is a public company. You can see how much they make and spend. Last time I checked, fighter pay was something like 18% of their spending whereas other sports it's closer to around 50%. I won't say that fighter pay is as simplistic as just "Pay them more" because more money doesn't just appear out of nowhere. They would either have to cut from another area or make more. That doesn't mean that it couldn't change within a year if they were forced it.
And then there's the "Union" issue. While the legal paperwork of forming a union and using it as a legal bargaining tool to sign agreements with fighters as a whole, it ignores the very simplistic purpose of a union, which is group bargaining power. They wouldn't need an actual union if every fighter on the roster agreed that looking out for your fellow fighter will benefit them more in the long term. As they say, a riding tide raises all ships. Instead you have fighters who have bought the UFC's pitch, which is you only get what you deserve. If you're not paid enough, it's not Dana's or the UFCs fault for paying so little, it's yours.
I wouldn't be surprised, either, if the highest paid fighters had the mindset of "Fuck you, I got mine. Get your own the way I did." Tommy cant argue against the fact that if the biggest draws of the UFC refused to fight until fighter pay for EVERYONE was raised. The kick in the teeth of this whole mess is the UFC taking fighters ability to make money on their own. The UFC wants to take advantage of the "free market" and tell fighters "Don't like it? Go fight somewhere else." while simultaneously restricting them from taking advantage of the market. It's disgraceful and it should have gotten the same backlash and outrage as the WWE trying to ban "talent" from having Twitch channels.
I want tournaments to come back. It just allows more talented fighters to get a title opportunity without waiting in line forever and being unfairly over looked.
100% tournaments would be such an amazing addition to UFC. But reserved for the big cards. Imagine IFW but with a one night bantamweight tournament for example. Shit would go off.
Na. Bc this is MMA a guy like (I.e. Song yadong catches a guy like petr tan and knocks him out.) now he wins a belt and skips past people like Aldo? Tj dillashaw? Na I don’t think so this is MMA where anything ca happen I don’t see anything wrong with rankings or how fights are put out. Please don’t ever write something as stupid as this in your life
Pretty sure ONE has tournaments
tournaments for a King of the Octagon with a guaranteed title shot before the year is over makes sense because Khabib Priviledge appears to be a mono type relationship to Islam to get to the top of the division while being a virgin to the top ten in the division. People like him cherry picked all the easy fights till this point so he would do the same in the event he was ever a champ of any kind. The tournament should also be optional for all fighters in the division so if no one wants to risk the biscuit except for one dude, guess who is getting a free title shot. It is a good idea
Yea if they do a one night tournament, none of those fighters will see the octagon again. I swear some of you people do not think 😂 this video is whack if you actually know the shit. Only thing I agree on are the gloves and weight cuts
By this logic, anything difficult or anything that encounters challenges should not be attempted because there might be some difficulties along the way regardless if it improves the quality of the sport
That's not the point of the video
The point of the video isn't tht it's too hard we shouldn't do it
It's your making it seem a lot easier than it actually is hence going back to the "just tackle him" analogy
That’s not the point of the video bruh the list is about stuff we think is “easy” but really isn’t
Well prove Tommy and his logic wrong by helping to change things in MMA.
Good luck!
@@lockdown550 except it is, it is dismissing the fixes without any solutions, as somebody said “Someone needing to put effort in to implement this” is not a valid argument
@@Saber23 it is the point of the video, it is dismissing the fixes without any solutions, as somebody said “Someone needing to put effort in to implement this” is not a valid argument
This video should be titled:
"Top 10 excuses plus excuses to simple problems"
If everyone saw the problem and no solution mankind would have been long gone
On the East Coast of Australia the early prelims start at 8AM, the prelims at 10AM, the main card at noon on Sunday.
It is awesome, because it promotes daytime drinking.
🍻👊🥂
Good for you bro the prelims start at 1 am and the main card normally start at 5 am in south Africa 🇿🇦
This would actually be one of the upsides of my time backpacking Oz and NZ haha. Definitely better than staying up in the UK
In Poland main card starts usually at 3 am and the worst part is extremely long trailers before main event... Damn how many times i have to rewatch fights, cause i was just falling asleep.
Yep, as far as AEST goes, I love the Sunday arvo fight cards. Sorry UK.
Easy for you obedient sheep, you just sit home, watch TV and drink.
“Someone needing to put effort in to implement this” is not a valid argument
It is if your channel now needs to shill for UFC since they started working closer with you.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 The next list should be top MMA content creators Dana bought out
Or "there would be an adjustment period" like no shit, that's part of change
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 This is exactly it. Channel has gotten noticeably worse recently.
@@davidfoster2629 I just hope guys take this criticism to heart and see that we as fans only want them to get back to their old ways, giving us good content. I don't want them to ingore it as some "hating" bs, cause that's not what it is.
They should really consider a “week-long” weigh in phase. Something along the lines of you have to be within a certain percentage 5 days before weigh in. That way you’re not cutting all your weight in he last days. Make it a longer process. Fighters will learn to better manage their weight in the week (or 2) leading up to a fight.
Like if you need to make 155 for the fight, you need to be no more than 170 or 165 the week before. Something like that. I’m just spit-balling.
Disagree. I say make them weigh in 365 times a year and your fight class is what you weighed most of the year. No more 240 pound middleweights.
No more weight cut misses surprising everyone week of the fight.
Make them fight at the weight they actually are all yearlong, not the weight they can get to for 15 minutes 3 times a year.
Weight cuts should basically be hamstrung to the point where you have to be fight weight for your fight. If you’re 1 lb over your weight class when it comes time for the actual contest, you’re overweight.
@@TW7S95 The point isn’t to be dehydrated. The point is to have a natural lower weight. Guys aren’t gonna be able to cut water weight if the weigh in period is a week-long thing.
@@kman9884 I can get behind that idea.
@@paulsletten8985 Then we'll have to expand the number of weight classes. There are guys at 155 who weigh all the way from high 160's to as much as low 190's when they aren't training. Also the lower weight classes would become non existent. My only issues with weighing in around the year is weight it so inconsistent. Before even cutting weight these guys drop a ton of weight just working out as hard as they can everyday, and they spend more time outside of camp. Meaning most of their weigh ins are gonna be significantly higher than when they're actually at peak performance after a hard camp with better nutrition.
the biggest MMA problem is Sal D'amato
facts
And Chris lee
For real
I do not know how that man is always somehow wrong. Everybody else could get it right, and he still would judge like his eyes were removed.
😂😂😂yes yes yes
Respectfully, there’s a difference between someone cavalierly stating something unattainable vs something difficult to attain but a legitimate objective. This boils down to executing any of these is high risk business. But doesn’t make it less worthy of pursuing.
Weigh ins is obviously doable tiered on stages. This is the old ncaa way of drug testing for short sprinters which is all I can speak to. Same with body fat% limits. You monitor on the lead up to championship season to catch swings. There would be misses which is bad for business.
Gloves, all good points. But they made Reebok happen. Regardless fair point. They COULD do this but it’ll be at an eye watering cost.
Unified might be close to impossible given the regulations needing legislature, and thus, bureaucracy.
Tough video and position to take but feels like a good reminder that the ufc is a successful business for a reason. And if something hasn’t happened, it’s not always bc they can’t do it. It still has to be good for said business.
I could not agree more
I boxed in college and we had same day weigh-ins. It wasn’t an issue and holds people to their truer weight. It actually gives people a better idea of their weight rather than trying to cut weight for weigh-ins the day before the fight and then be surprised by the scale when they miss.
It isn't a problem. No idea why he's trying to make it sound like a problem. It's been solved for years. They don't do it for the big time stuff like this because they love having the fighters cut weight like crazy so they look good in the weigh in promo pics. They don't care about fighter health, just sales.
This makes sense, like if everyone is cutting weight to fight another person also cutting weight then why not just fight each other at your normal weight and weigh in the day of the fight. Who knows?
We did same day for wrestling, regular meets roughly 45mins to 1.5 hours before competition starts. We had to weigh in once wity a hydration test and bodyfat test at the beginning of the season. Not before every competition though. Tournaments gave people who could get a bye round the ability to cut more weight and still be back to form when they compete due to having more time, and we have more weight clases, going from one to a lower one isn't as huge of a drop.
Yeah it makes no sense. Guy basically described how same day weigh ins work and then called it a problem with no sensible basis.
@@chucklebutt4470 you’re right. My comment was mainly to say that same day weigh-ins are not an issue like it’s made out to be. Fighters are equally responsible for deciding to try and cut weight to have an advantage.
I’d like for judges to have to submit a short justification of their scoring for each round. Not much, just “fighter x had more control time but took 3 heavy shots, so I gave fighter y a 10-9.” It’s not a complete solution, but it would force more discussion and clarity
Gives me high-school flash backs
This is a pretty decent idea, people wouldn’t be so left in the dark with what that judge saw if they gave a brief explanation. Problem is these athletic commissions who hire these refs and judges are all mafia ran, there’s a reason why the judges scoring is on point and completely off at times and that’s because the house never loses. It all ties into Vegas which is where all the betting odds are based from and they very much rig the game in their favor as much as they can
They actually have to do that, just behind closed doors.
They'd strike over that lol. You see how little they can handle criticism of bad calls already, when their reasoning is there for you to poke holes in it would be way worse
Aint writing no essays for 600 bucks to be torn apart by morons worldwide
Increasing fighter pay would involve increase the percentage of the revenue that goes to the fighters. As opposed to the current 12-15%, it could match other American sports that reach 50% split. Also adjusting contracts from independent contractors vs employees would cause a big difference
Figthers are definitely employees, especially since implementation of USADA. And you are right, but some moron running this channel will tell you that UFC would just die without their 80+ percent. I used to love those guys but fuck, they are shilling for UFC so hard now.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 idk about this channel being shills but I was disappointed that fighter pay was one thing they mentioned here. I'm fairly certain ufc fighters aren't considered employees but rather independent contractors. They, however, get all the negatives of being an independent contractor (no health insurance, travel benefits, retirement benefits and no training costs covered) while getting none of the advantages of being independent contractors. A move taken directly from wwes handbook of sleazy moves. Not to forget the god awful sponsorship control that UFC has on the fighters. Its definitely doable and not something that's impossible. Just not very beneficial for the company on a whole which is a load of bs
@@basselderhalli4673 On sponsorship I always found it funny that octagon is plastered with it but fighters can get a small logo on their shorts.
@Fu Duck you seem to have a tone of outrage as well oddly enough. Maybe he could have made more of a concise argument but it's a comment section ffs. If you dont see that the fighters are getting shafted then you are drinking some DFW kool aid.
Other than the argument of "if u got the answers just go do.it yourself" being piss poor, that line of thinking nobody can complain about anything. Dont like how the president's handling things? Stfu and just run for president yourself if it's so easy...😑 The main problem is revenue splits, and yes the UFC is screwing the fighters. Bellator fighters receive 45% of revenue splits and Bellator is still turning a profit despite having a much smaller market share. Theres definitely overheads we dont know about when it comes to paying combat sport athletes but if you think that 16% is their fair market value I want whatever you're smoking.
Yes Dana built the company up to where it is now (with the help of his billionaire buddies who put up all the money).and hes been more than fairly compensated. Hes worth several hundred million, just from his share of UFC while paying athletes that risk their health more than any other sport by far a few thousand dollars for show money in some cases. As obnoxious as McGregor can be, the amount of revenue he brought into the UFC vs his pay in the beginning was an absolute joke. Should have been getting at least 20mil before ppv points, not 2mil during the height of McGregor mania...that's a fkn joke. Since theres no union they're gonna continue to get horrible compensation for the value they bring because it's a dictatorship as of right now and the leader is only beholden to his shareholders and increasing profit margins, not what's in the best interest of the fighters which is why the UFC needs a union more than any other sport....you'll see if there ever is a union all the sudden fighters will magically get paid way more and the UFC wont go out of business, kind of proving the point why so many people are rightfully in favor of increased fighter pay and workplace rights
@Fu Duck yes we love the UFC bootlicker right here, they’re severely underpaid, 15/20% of a fixed billion dollars without even ppv numbers etc is an awful deal, they dont get paid what they’re worth either
I'm from the UK, I almost always watch the card first thing on Sunday morning, I sometimes work Sundays and ill go to work early to watch it, I wouldn't dream of paying $80 though, I pay £20/month for BT Sport which gives me all UFC/Rugby/Football etc
Yeah same here, thank god for BT sport making the PPV's as part of the normal monthly plan. They did trial out making us pay for PPV (they did this for Jones vs DC) and everyone complained so they scrapped it... they do still make anh conor fight a PPV too but in the grand scheme of things I guess that's understandable
I live in Ireland and have a fucked sleep schedule. But I have streamed every event I have ever watched
I'd say a mix of on-the-day weigh-ins or incremental weigh-ins throughout the year. Stick more near a healthy weight vs stumbling around the day before or ending up in the hospital or missing the fight.
The glove issue seems to be purely that UFC wants to own the gloves vs it being an MMA-wide thing.
Yes, the same thing I thought. If these guys are really 'athletes' dedicated to their craft and getting paid like it, most importantly, then they should be able to stay around a certain weight all year round. I can and I am not a professional fighter. I am 6´3" and hover around 180 12 months a year. I get sick? Down to 170. Holidays and beer (stopped drinking back in '14), 190-195. Point is, never more than 15 pounds from 180. Never in probably 20+ years.
Absolutely. Take the fighters weight randomly once a quarter or more and that determines their weight class. That would solve the bulk of the health issues. No solution is perfect, but we can do better to protect these fighters.
Do a list of the following:
-vibranium chins
-flashiest styles
-best head movement
-fighters who are definitely being protected by USADA
-smartest game plans that backfired somehow
Good ideas
Chins are already done
Smartest game plans that back fired somehow: #1 Rose’s strategy against Carla, it was perfect champ.
- Female fighters who don't have daddy issues.
- Male fighters who are probably gay but would never admit it.
- Ben Rosett's top fights that were never filmed.
@@joshb4898 lmao 🤣 😂 😆 💀
What kind of shitty logic is that? "Same day weigh ins are stupid to get rid of weight cutting because the fighters have to still cut weight"
Well how about they just fight at their natural weight, which this would force them to do
You lads are legendary
One thing to remember about “rules” and “sport” is that no one wants to watch their favorite fighters die in the octagon, especially if there’s “anything” we can do about it. If you watched the original UFC (and liked it as I have), you’ll remember that there was no such thing as a “doctor stoppage”, someone almost had to die before big Jon stopped it. That’s where the “rules” began. So IDGAF, I like safe and competitive fights, not one sided executions. Just my two pennies, also “super necessary”.
? But that's the thing a lot of rules are still unsafe or stupid like UFC gloves as an example
@@dun0790
Can’t argue with you there. That comes down to “legalities” and “governing” bodies. In all reality, we as free individuals can do whatever the hell it is that we want. If we want to fight in a back alley, go for it! But, if you want to make money off of it, then that shit needs to be regulated because some people will set up fights with absolutely no fux to give. That’s where the “governing bodies” come into play. Let’s be real, it’s a racket, it’s a mob, you have to pay the mob tax to get the mob off your back. Uncle Dana has been paying a lot of mob tax to bring us the blood and gore that we so lovingly crave. Are you not entertained? Lol
But really, yes, there are stupid rules 🤦♂️🤷♂️ it is what it is 🤷♂️
Me foot looked like a balloon 😂
@@dun0790 Progress takes time. Eventually if it becomes a large enough problem (eg - fighters losing eyesight due to pokes), the commissions could change the regulations and the UFC would be obligated to comply. In the meantime, it benefits the UFC more to use the design they're currently using than to use a design they don't own the patent on, meaning they could be required to pay licensing fees in order to manufacture them, and could have issues with selling licensed gear.
ye, the first UFC events were rough, no one wants to go back there.
I think pride was just fine, there were no more or less major injuries than in any other combat sport.
my perception is, that most rules are very favorable for grapplers because they limit the ability to strike and I think fights would be better if people could not just turtle up on the floor or put down a knee (cough aljo cough) and limit their opponents' weapons by doing so.
I've been watching your videos for a couple of years now, and am a HUGE fan of your work... (of course there's a "but" coming) But... Your tongue was firmly up the UFC's ass today. There are tonnes of solutions to (most) of these issues that may not be perfect, but would be much better than the status quo.
Let's get back to our roots, boys. No one likes the UFC's media engine. It's one video, but be careful!!!
I will just copy my other comment here: Weight misses on the day of the card? Boo-fucking-hoo, move up a weightclass then. Rumble had to, Costa had to. Also stop shilling for the UFC, I know you work with them kinda close now but fuck, do you hear yourselves guys? You telling us that "UFC Logo" is more important than fighters not getting poked as much? As for judging, there are new judges coming Herzog is great for example, Keith Peterson no slouch either. Do we really need I Smoke Too Much Herb Dean? Hard to get on his level? What fucking level? That union stuff with GSP "fell apart at the start"? Right, but you know why and you aren't mentioning it here. Wonder why?
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 oh, absolutely! MMA On Point will find out really quick that the only people they’ve got left to talk to are the people who think Sean O’Malley is going to be champ.
Colorados athletic commission to my understanding has fully approved the One championship rule set, from their judging, to knees on the ground, to even their weigh in system. If One ever makes it over here and starts doing cards in Colorado, and wherever else they can get approved, then it could get interesting comparing those to the UFC cards also happening in the US.
You'd see a fighters union happen overnight if just days before a major card like 276 champions like Izzy and Volk refuse to compete until there's some sort of collective bargaining agreement. The reason why union efforts of the past failed is that they were headed by people already retired (gsp, Randy Couture), on their way to retirement (cowboy) or journeymen (Leslie smith), its kinda easy for them to put their necks on the line. No major sports union was created by over the hill and middling competitors, You need people who are currently at the top of the sport willing to put their professional accomplishments on the line to spark that change. You hear guys like Jorge, Colby, Jones, Diaz and Ngannou speak out on fighter pay and other grievances but when daddy Dana dangles a carrort in front of them suddenly they get quiet, once they get something out of their public statements they quickly forget the " *WE* " in those statements. And that's why Dana and the WWE can operate the way that they do cause non of their top stars are willing to miss out on a few paychecks in the short term to benefit everyone in the long-term
100% agree. A fighters union is the future. I don't know how thry get there but it's the future.
@@1974Imperium unions in general don't work and danas stubborn, he'd cut trouble makers plus he pays his draws well.
@@rbnz3286 unions in general don't work??? R u dizzy
@@ipman49 yes kid unless you're indispensable to profits you have no leverage this is quite common knowledge amongst those with an income. Also UFC fighters crying about pay would be fighting for $50 in a parking lot without the UFC.
@@rbnz3286 ........ you might want to actually look at the history of labor unions and how much they benefit the work force. While you at it also look up how much NBA, NHL, NFL and MLB players were making before unionization and how much their pay and benefits shot up within 10 years of unionization. My department in ups is literally in charge of finding and firing undesirable employees and unless the guy outright steals something or shows up to work high on coke its almost impossible to fire them without literal years of documented incompetence, why? Cause UPS employees are teamsters and their labor reps are cold blooded
This is the first time I watch a video from MMA on Point and wholeheartedly disagree with every point made
I once read an article about why bamboo isnt used more instead of wood and 90% of the reasons were basically "well we have always done it this way" this video feels very much like that.
The weight cutting is something that needs looking at cause people are risking their lives to begin with fighting so getting a guy walking around 30+ lbs heavier than their weight to drop is adding needless risks and then imagine if they are a fighter that has to jump in like masvidal did and he was heavier then needed and untrained for said fight within a reasonable time frame
0:10 This reminds me of the translated corners' simplified messages to fighters by broadcast translators who have no knowledge of the sport: "fight them. kick his legs. errr.. punch him. go forward. fight your oppoonent. win the fight. he is tired. you are not tired. kick errr take him ... give him some wrestling move... on his arm... arm-wrestle at the pub? the bar? Oh give him--do the Arm Bar....!!!!"
The point of this list isn't to say these solutions can't be/aren't viable. There's nothing in this video that says we shouldn't try to find solutions, or even use these specific solutions. Something being hard to do doesn't mean I don't want us to do it or that we shouldn't because it's hard. The point of the video is the amount of effort that would be required to make these changes that so many seem to think could just happen in a flash or so easily is more complex than people think, and in many cases is the reason we haven't yet seen these "simple" solutions implemented.
We don’t have the luxury of having been around 100 years to work out the kinks. Look at the rule changes in any sport, many are still changing rules every couple of years. They do seasons upon seasons worth of research generally. A lot of our issues aren’t as game breaking or occur as often as issues that come up in other sports so they just don’t get fixed.
On the point of event times. It really depends on where you live. For Aussies/Kiwis UFC normally starts around midday on a Sunday which is perfect to go to the pub with friends.
But it is, your video is saying that idea sucks and should be dropped because it requires effort and time. Otherwise it is a pointless video, we know it takes time and effort, nobody is that stupid to believe that
My one issue will always be the matchmaking. These guys should not have to go into press conferences as some made up character to sell their talent when the UFC can simply just make the damn fights. Why did Leon have to wait so long? Why does Beneil have to wait so long? Thank goodness we are not getting Figgy vs Moreno 4 right away. These guys need to fight based on their rank, or just go by who has the most followers on twitter if popularity trumps all.
"That ref sucks"
*Zooms in on the greatest ref ever*
Great video, as always. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I feel like the fighter pay issue really isn't a hard one to solve. Lower win 'bonuses' and add that money to show. Of course everyone wants higher payouts period, but that every job ever. I'm not saying there should be no incentive for winning, but half your check isn't an incentive. Even fighting 4 times a year, which has gotten more difficult as the sport progresses, at 12:12 is a joke. And yes it's a lot of paperwork, but the UFC does control it entirely and already spends money and time fighting to keep payouts low.
I think a good way to fix the weight cutting situation is to have a walk around weight limit for each division that you would have to be close enough to to discourage weight cutting severely
Yeah, they could randomly test your weight as well as your urine, or have you weigh in at the beginning of camp and only be allowed to cut a certain percentage from then.
They could have a UFC official weighing them every 3-4 days in camp, making them stay around the weight they’ll fight at.
@@J0HNJ0RDAN it's gonna be peak for paddy pimblet 😂
I can't agree with these because they're reduced to "it's too hard so it wouldn't work". If promoters had this mindset, MMA would still be an underground production waiting for approval. If fighters had this mindset then let's face it the sport would be empty.
A solution can't be thrown out the window just because it's difficult.
The only thing I have a problem with here is weight cutting as a long time wrestler I seen the weight cutting that was happening before my state instated exactly what you said and after the whole point is fight at your healthy weight.
“But what if someone cuts too much and is dehydrated on fight night” then they shouldn’t be fighting at that weight class if they can’t make weight it in a healthy safe way. How that is not an easy solution I’ll never understand.
@@ethanedwards7756 Yes, that makes sense to us, but are any of the arguments in this video to the benefit of the fighters? It seems like everything is about protecting Dana's wallet first and the brand second. Fighter's health is barely a consideration for the list maker here.
@@ethanedwards7756 Health often takes a back seat to gaining a performance-enhancing advantage; weight cuts are no exception. Weight cuts effectively make weigh-ins (and even weight classes) pointless, especially when the last weigh-in is more than a full day before the fight, which gives fighters time to put all of that water weight back on before the fight starts. Fighters have figured out how to cheat the system to give themselves a weight advantage. Weight cuts (particularly the "water weight" cuts that have become the norm) are only a thing because they allow fighters to fight at weights significantly above the upper weight limit of the division they are officially fighting in.
One option would be to implement a rule that requires your fight weight to not only be within the weight limits of the weight class you are fighting in, but be within 5% of your average walk-around weight over the ninety days before a fight or you fail the weigh-in, and have documented daily weigh-ins to monitor average weight in order to ensure that fighters weigh what they claim to weigh, including a weigh-in right before they enter the cage on fight day, which would be their official fight weight. This would completely eliminate unhealthy "water weight" cuts and almost entirely mitigate any need to cut more than a few pounds for any given fight. Just as important, it still allows fighters to change weight classes if they want (and even fight in multiple weight classes). Most fighters would balk at that idea though, because it takes away their ability to game the system. I see and hear a lot of bullshit excuses being given for why drastic "water weight" cuts are "necessary" and "unavoidable', and they are laughable every single time.
If fighters were required to fight at or near the same weight they walk around at, unhealthy "water weight" cuts like we see many times every single weekend would be completely eliminated, and none of the recurring weight cut "problems" we so often see would be a thing. I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen, though.
600 bucks to judge 1 fight? Holy shit where do i sign up? Even if it's not rolling in money it's still higher then minimum wage if you do 3 fights a week
Tommy moaning about the main card starting at 10 and post fight pressers finishing at 2am while I’m here in the uk main event starting at 3 and lucky to make it to the post fight pressers.
As an Australian, we love the UFC start times. Most main cards start at 12pm on a Sunday and it is glorious
Honestly I think Soccer kicks and knees to downed opponents being illegal is one of the best rule changes made in the UFC. What skill is used in stomping a dudes face in until he's unconscious? That isn't a "mixed martial art" lmao. If I wanted to see that, I's go look up street fights on RUclips since it takes no skill and literally ANYONE can do it. Seeing martial artists perfect their form and win using their skills instead of simply holding a dude down and kneeing/ kicking him in the face is way more fun to watch, and it shows the fighters skill
While it's implementation would be extremely complicated with numerous stakeholders and regulations that would need to be considered and accounted for, a fighters union would solve a lot of the problems with the UFC. Especially fighter pay.
The complexity of it's execution, doesn't invalidate the merits of a solution
Its almost like pervasive problems warrant comprehensive and sophisticated solutions
New drinking game: Take a shot every time this guy says "It's not that easy"
Start times surprisingly are great in New Zealand. Main card starts at 2pm on Sunday
Sounds lovely
Same for Aus. Midday start for the main card of a ppv. It's perfect
I spoke to Marc Goddard at a seminar discussing the unified rules and he said the reason the 12 to 6 elbow is still illegal is because it is actually a dangerous strike.
He said it would primarily be used in a ground and pound situation and in that case the elbow fits naturally/comfortably slides into the orbital bone/eye socket and would hit there most often. That can cause serious, long term damage to the skull and permanent blindness quite easily.
I love MMA on Point and I love Tommy Toe Hold but this video was not it. It was basically 15 minutes of “but ackshually things are more complicated than that”. Take the gloves one: there’s nothing actually stopping the UFC, other than their need to control the branding in EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE BROADCAST, from adopting safer and more effective gloves. So they wouldn’t have their Logo slathered all over the gloves that are moving at high speed and barely legible? And? The UFC logo is on the cage, on the canvas, on the screen between every round and between fights, etc etc etc. Imagine if the NFL banned Nike cleats because they didn’t want wide receivers running around with the Swoosh logo on their feet. It would be stupid. This whole video seems to try to dunk on what people are tweeting when twitter is not a place to propose fleshed out solutions anyway. The gloves should be changed to Whittman’s design, end of story. The fact that they haven’t yet isn’t because the “issue is complicated” it’s because the UFC is actively choosing not to address it.
Yep, tons of UFC asslicking in today's video. Writing was terrible too.
Here in South Africa the prelims start at 2 AM and the main card starts at 4 AM
I get that this is the reality but this list ended up being extremely redundant. Most of it boiled down to “it’s too hard and takes too much time not gonna happen 🤷🏼♂️”
That tackle 0:16 though, dayymmm from the UK
adding a couple judges who exclusively watch and score the fight by watching the broadcast on a screen , without commentary,so they see what we see, and so the commentators don’t sway them. Perhaps even without the crowd to taint there decision.
I think this could help with scoring as I sometimes wonder if a judges position cageside could be the cause of some of the wacky scores we see.
If the action is all happening on the other side of the cage then you can’t accurately score the fight from your position.
Also monitor judges finances and pay them better.
Fighters have to agree to be tested randomly by USADA as part of fighting, I think it wouldn’t be too much to ask if as a judge you are scrutinized a little more than usual, and as a sweetener for this they get paid a bit more .
Or just plain and simple, judges should be held accountable and made to explain some of the wacky scores .
Wow! Can’t believe you read all that, cheers 🍻😉
I agree that a huge improvement would just be to have judges publicly explain why they scored a round the way they did
One issue that exists with a fighters union is that, it would need the top fighters/champions to be members in order to have leverage. And in MMA, there's a shorter shelf life as a champion or contender, which could give them that leverage. Also, as someone mentioned below, if right now Adesanya or Oliveira, started talking about a union, Dana will dangle a nice dollar amount to keep them quiet and happy.
Title: 10 simple fixes
Video content: these problems are insurmountably complex and will never change
you need to stay up until 10pm? aw that's a shame, I NEED TO STAY UP TILL 6/7AM TO WATCH A FIGHT
O'malley's punch to the left eye of Pedro is what did the damage not that little eye poke to the right eye of Pedro, that's why Pedro's left eye is the one swollen shut
Charles Barkley knows what's up.
Why would a guy who fought some of the greatest 135/45ers ever quit in a fight against O'Malley when he was winning?
@@dersatansschuh4426 cause O'Malley blinded him with an overhand right to his left eye, and then accidentally poked his right eye so pedro took the way out of the fight he had no way to win, also its you're own problem if you don't know what you're watching pedro landed zero strikes to head or body and more than half his leg kicks were checked, checked leg kicks count against the person throwing them, doesn't matter either way though tko doctor stoppage
O'Malley was losing. He underperformed against a handpicked opponent.
You know how Vince McMahon has the WWE Network on Peacock? Doesn't Dana White and the UFC have a deal Fite? If not then they should because then we could watch MMA fights whenever we want.
Imaging critisizing main events starting at 10pm when in Europe they start at 4am, it's my DREAM to watch main events at 10pm
So just started watching this video and we’re 0-1 in finding “simple fixes” for issues in the ufc?
I'm curious to see what fighters kidneys will look like later in life. It can't be good to dehydrate yourself so severely so many times like fighters do. Like Joe says "weight cutting is just legal cheating, you way the weigh in weight for 10 minutes then the next day you're 15-30 pounds heavier
Gleison Tibau was over 200 pounds when fighting at 155. That was from a compilation of fight night weight that fighters/coaches themselves shared. No idea who he fought against that particular night tho.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 that's crazy. That was when IVs were still allowed though so it made rehydration alot easier. Since they banned them it makes it alot harder to lose that much weight
The weight cutting thing is kinda hilarious. Wrestling solved this problem 20 years ago. My first two years in college were under the old rules (which are pretty much the UFC rules), but then they changed to the current system (same day weigh in within an hour or two of the start of competition). Wrestlers still cut weight, but its incredibly manageable, and no one is engaging in physically weight cuts that are dangerous to their health because it leaves them to weak to compete.
Safe to say these problems are being made bigger than than the solutions that have been laid out by people that have been named in this video lol. I get it though, gotta make this video has some sort of credit so might as well try to discredit other people's perfectly viable solutions to most problems in this video like the gloves or scoring system.
Nah it’s literally as simple as this - up the % of revenue which is paid to athletes. That. Is. It. Hating on Jake Paul really worth arguing with increasing fighter pay? That’s a man fighting for the right things so get behind it don’t defend the business bs
WE don’t fix nothing
Dude the fact that you're complaining that you have to go to bed at 1-2 AM cause the main card is "oN tOo LaTe" really has me laughing as a guy living in Spain where the main card usually starts at 4 AM meaning that if I'm lucky I sleep at 7 AM LOL
The weight cutting I heard from onefc is that it pairs down the 20% weight cuts to 10%. I feel like the better solution is usada random weigh in 3 months before the card to ensure the fighter is within reasonable range before the fight.
Roughly yes, it saves probably 5lb at atmweght and 7lb at fly, after that fughters don't seem to be more bulcky in any class than in UFC
How about no
@@Kegman24
Yes, they need to do something like this, because the real competition becomes who can risk their life the most by cutting the most weight in the shortest time, so you have people in a weight class above fighting in a weight class or even 2 below, which is inherent unfair. The competition is supposed to be fighting, not weight cutting.
Nice fursona icon btw
as a filipino i like the time of ppvs usually starts around 9-10 am here
The problem with scoring fights is that it will always be subjective. Regardless of the way you judge them whether it's 10-9 or just "choosing" who won its still subjective. Some people put a lot of stock into damage, but some fighters cut up easy and others don't. It will never be cut and dry. 10-9 I think offers standards that are easier to follow IMO
Living in Australia, all the UFC events start in the morning and finish at midday or mid-afternoon. On Sunday. It's like church. No problem with UFC start times.
Nah, the best way to deal with eye pokes is to take a point on every one, intentional or no, and also give the judges the ability to take that point from a replay. When it actually can impact the outcome of a fight, you'll see a lot less of them, and if it can be evaluated in replay to actually catch it every time it happens, fighters will start keeping their hands closed in striking and then opening them for grappling rather than keep them open because there are really no consequences.
Dumb takes like this just shouldn't be allowed on RUclips
I hope they leave the start times... Get to watch Sunday morning in Australia.
Weight cutting can be fixed... Miss 2 times your fired .. your a professional god damnit... Have backups waiting for every fight. Half the roster are at the fights anyway. .stars that will evolve will be able to make weight so you won't have to worry about their fights getting cancelled.. if you miss weight it means all the expenses from camps fighters that miss weight will have to pay without getting a paycheck...teams will not stick behind fighters that can't make weight when they don't get paid... It can be done if weigh ins are same day... Levels the playing field... Fighters that fight their natural weight are at a disadvantage now... New stars will emerge to replace the cheaters cutting 30lbs a fight... No more excuses of a bad fight due to weight cut.. I can go on and on...there are positive and negatives with everything... All sports are and/or have been fixed if not for outcome then to have the event in the first place
And if there's not backups just do a catchweight fight. This video had really poor writing and reasoning.
Imagine going into the 4th quarter, 9th inning, 3rd period and not knowing if you're winning the game.
MMA needs to fix the point system.
The gripes against the glove "quick fix" is a reach
Agreed! If the Wittman gloves are untested, then use the Pride gloves since Zuffa bought up Pride anyway. If the issue is with state athletic commissions, well at least submit them for those annoying hearings and if they do get turned down, fans will know which state's governors to call.
So basically, every single point on here is the top level guys going "NU UH!! YOU!!" rather than the solutions actually sucking
Ur argument for same day doesn’t mean jack in wrestling you weigh in that day then compete multiple times
Yes, his argument that people get dehidrated and get hurt doesn't make sense. You don't do a Khabib weight cut if you have 2hr before the fight
I love the start times living in New Zealand. The main card usually starts at 2pm on a Sunday.
That finish in o mally’s fight sucked
Whole fight sucked dude puts more time into painting his nails than actually backing up his words
Start time thing cracks me up. In NZ it's just in time for me to wake up on Sunday afternoon
Sean O’Malley is the first man to finish Pedro, sorta.
Mentally 17-0 baby!
Lmao that’s the right way to look at it
No he actually did finish Pedro. The scratched cornea was from a closed fist strike and was on the opposite side of the alleged eyepoke
@@TheMMAKasual I agree with this statement but it was already declared a no contest, right?
If winning to you is losing the 1st round and then groin kicking and eye gouging in the second... LOL you Tik Tok kids are funny asf
Dude 5'11 fighting people who are 5'6 no different than a High Schooler beating up on Middle Schoolers, if he wants to be the best maybe he should face someone his size and prove it...
Fighter pay is simple. The UFC currently pays 12-15% of the revenue from cards to the fighters. That’s simply ridiculously low to start with, and increasing this revenue split would increase fighter pay. I believe the NFL is a 50% split.
The NFL is the most popular sport in the United States. Giving away 500mil when you get 500mil when you have a built-in fanbase is probably easier than giving 5mil away when you "only" get 5mil. Obviously not the real numbers, but yknow
Fix number 1: Removing women's divisions
I hate to be that guy but I do agree. It’s just not as entertaining. At least move them off main card ppv
Bro hates women
Cringe
It’s not for entertainment it’s a professional sport on display away back to 1970
No
If you are a professional fighter with professional coaches, nutritionists and so on you should be able to keep your weight steady. You dont have to come in on fight day exactly on the maximum allowed weight you can be a bit lower. And it would make the weight of the fighters during the fightnigt closer to each other than the current system because right know depending how much weight you are able to cut you might bulk up way more than your opponent.
So its that simple. Weightins right before the fight (maybe early in the morning or a few hours earlier). But the fighters should keep their weight within the range the weightclass is supposed to be.
For example if you know you are allowed to weight a maximum of 155 but could also weight like 150 then you keep your weight within that range and voila problem solved. No dangerous weight cutting, even range of the weight differences would be smaller for sure. Ofcourse maybe a few times people get bulkier/fatter/dont want to train as hard/whatever the reason might be to get heavier, but its not like with the actual weight cuttin there are no fighters not making weight.... And as you can just keep a weight during the fight camp you now way earlier if you can reach your goal because you dont have to cut it last minute but you have basically your full camp to get to the weight you want to keep. You could even throw in a pre-weightin with 5 pounds higher range a week earlier or half a month earlier.
There were people fighting at 155 who were over 200 at fight night. This shit is crazy.
I think half point scoring would solve a lot of the problems without having to overhaul all the rules. Coin flip rounds are 10-9.5, normal rounds are 10-9, dominant rounds with control/moderate damage 10-8.5, dominant rounds with knockdowns/ref should’ve stopped it probably 10-8.
Not a perfect system, but it would stop 10-9s from being everything between 10-9.99 and 10-8.01 like it is now.
I had a similar idea, 3 point system:
0 for an even round.
+1 for winning a close round.
+2 for solidly winning a round.
+3 for dominantly winning a round.
bros complaining he has to watch ufc at 10pm lmaoo. I would literally kill to be able to watch ufc that early
I really think O'Malley did a good job pointing out the absurdity of the Judges in the post fight interview. Judging needs evolving. It needs to be improved. We need replay reviews. MMA guru pointed out O'Malley damaged Pedro's eye with that super accurate punch. Great video man. It's spot on! Literally its the correct eye, he showed how he started having issues with his eye from that punch then on, so everyone who said Pedro was milking getting his right eye touched was correct because its Pedro's left eye that's destroyed. O'Malley deserves credit for literally damaging Pedro to the point of stopping with in a round essentially... So I hope they see what that video pointed out because it is spot on. I'm really disappointed in the weasel's video. I really thought he was going to make a better breakdown but apparently he was so much of a Pedro fan that he couldn't even accurately asses the fight... Check out the mma guru RUclips channel he breaks down exactly what actually happened that we all missed in real time. O'Malley's just that fast.
Fixing the weight cutting problem: every time a ufc fighter gets usada tested, they get weighed. You take the 5-10 weights the fighter came in at and you assign them a minimum weight class at the end of that year. It’d be a mess for a few months with titles having to be moved, re-fought for, etc but imagine the fights we’d see if fighters didn’t have to cut serious weight. Maybe 5-6 lbs and that’s it. The fights would get better and the worst part about being an mma fighter(having to cut weight) disappears. You’d get guys are their best and no more weight bullying. More fair, more safe and better fights.
I live in south africa so being a ufc/combat sports fan means I have to wake up at 01:00 to start watching and it ends around 07:30-08:00.
I usually cancel everything the next day and sleep the whole Sunday to be fresh for work on Monday
I really want to see that video of the ref f-ing up those taekwondo guys lol that looked hilarious 😂😂
Having a clip of DT when he says "hit 'em" is sick genius.
I think the biggest issue around judging fights is the 10-9 must, and closed scoring. Not only should we use open scoring, which yes I understand comes with a set of its own problems, but if we are gonna use the 10-9 must which we do, it needs to be tweaked. Not every round is even. Someone could narrowly scrape a 10-9 in a round that ultimately could have gone either way, but in another round score the same 10-9 in a round they won every second of. Judges should start implementing 10-8s more liberally. You can see rounds where even multiple knockdowns are scored where it’s still scored a 10-9. I think a 10-7 should be a round we all today think of as a 10-8 round. The last time I can remember a 10-7 is one judge giving that to max Holloway after he went super Saiyan god mode on kattar and even then, it might have also been just multiple 10-8. I think if a fighter narrowly wins a round, it’s a 10-9. If the round could go either way, 10-10, and if a fighter dominantly wins every second of a round 10-8. 10-7 can be a dominant round, where a fighter also scores knockdowns. When you factor this in and the more liberal useage of scoring other then just your standard 10-9 for everything outside of a utter domination, on top of open scoring, it would really help out. Yes I get that this could result in more draws, but with open scoring it means the fighter who’s up if they decide to coast could lose a fight they’d normally have won coasting, and a fighter who’s down will go into overdrive to try and win, and even if it does result in draws, in my opinion that is a LOT better then fighters winning controversial decisions because we are treating every round as equal when they clearly aren’t.
I agree 100%, I think what a lot of fans just want to say is "stop being s*** do better.." but saying that to a fighter doesn't really help them out as a matter of fact I think it does quite the opposite
This channel makes my work days so much better lol
Weight them 24 hours before the fight. Then weigh them again before they step in the cage literally. The two numbers must be in a tolerance based on weight class.
#8 could be possible, you would have to get all the states to agree that a centralised regulatory body decides what the "unified" rules are, much like how the UFC got MMA "legalised" across the country. If there is a rule change/modification, then a vote would be proposed, and if it passes with a majority, then that is the new rule across the board.
Correct me if I’m wrong but #1 feels a bit dumb.
Why would you cut weight right before a match? You need to actually fight. What’s the point if you’re so dehydrated you can barely stand? Any fighter in their right mind would be in optimal health for a fight. I think it would promote a more fair weight class - where fighters strive to be as close to the cut, while fully hydrated and healthy - but most would probably be a bit under the limits, as opposed to above.
Fucking love this channel, only dreamed of something like this growing up. Heaps of effort put into videos, well researched, great points and no definitive truth, little to no bias. Well done mate(s), best of luck to you all and congrats on the new channel. Also, just my opinion but great move on your part investing in personality driven MMA content.
if you watch how the UFC books the rankings, you realize it's a little bit more of a tier system at this point over hard set individual numbers. Top 3-5 are almost always people you'd see in a title fight, whether just a win away or whatever. They're all fighters that can usually be put in a title fight. 6-10 is usually your gatekeepers, midcard lifers, and upcoming fighters, and 11-15 tends to be gatekeepers, struggling fighters, and newcomers just breaking through. Still subject to bookers discrepancy, but its not super inconsistent from this formula
Always love when I see a new video! Keep up the good work!
About ranking it would be nice to have at least a few tournaments a year on competitive UFC divisions
If i had a life or friends, i love Tommy 😂😂😂😂
I can’t relate to what it feels like to weight cut, but every time I see that footage of Cyborg I can tell it’s pure hell….. unless you Izzy, he does that like butter….But he’s an outlier
I want to see specific weight classes in the ufc for better match making & flexibility on match making. I also think if we added one or two more rounds but limited the rounds from 5 to lets say 4 minute rounds would be a lot more entertaining
Real title of this video should be “Reasons we think the UFC is the best company ever and does no wrong” 🤦🏻♀️