The Tesla Model S Plaid Goes Way Farther Than We Thought In Our 70-MPH Highway Range Test
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2022
- Kyle heads out for our typical 70-mph highway loop style EV range test but this time in the Tesla Model S Plaid. This car is on the 19" aero wheels and still is pretty fresh so let's see how far we can go on a charge!
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At the end of each range video you should put in a chart showing how this car compares to other cars you’ve tested. With rankings
Like Bjorn does. I appreciate him putting it up at the end so instead of having to watch the full 20-30 minute video every time you can just watch the last 5 minutes or so where he shows exactly how much range it got, how cold it was, and how other cars performed in the same weather
@@philorgneopolotin8762 Bjorn is masterful. Out of spec is still a bit iffy on what some number (could) mean, I get the impression. Really close to Bjorn levels of understanding, though.
Would love Kyle to visualize the data more for us to compare on a website. Similar to what Linus tech tips is doing with LTT Labs for computer hardware
That’d be perfect, similar to Doug’s score system how he shows all the similar vehicles. Should make a chart of their mileage at 75%,50%,25%
I started a spreadsheet! If you want to help me populate it I would love the help.
That's CRAZY efficient, took delivery of a new MYP on Aug 25th and took a 2K road trip and I averaged 294 wh/mi. I have since dumped the 21" Uberturbines for some TSportLine 18s with 245/50 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. They are still breaking in but I can tell I'm getting some of the efficiency back. Great test as usual. Thanks for all you do for the EV community.
What's your new MYP expected range with TSportline 18" rims & tire combo? 330 miles? I'm thinking of doing the same to increase range/efficiency.
PS A/S tires are 10% less efficient than Primacy mxm4 just so you know
You should see some decent improvement in efficiency. Genuine question; what do you mean you’re “breaking in” new wheels? 🤔
Lucid is even crazier
How do you like the 18" ride? Ordering winter setup in 18" from TS. Can't wait to take the Uber's off.
It’s a bit loud because it’s got the 285 fat tires…Lucid has those skinny tires
Nice test results! Looking forward to more awesome Plaid content.
I love your positivity! Keep up the great videos!
I need a set of 19s for road trips; it seems more practical and probably more comfortable with a taller sidewall. I've only made a few trips in my Model S Plaid, but I have the 21" wheel package, and I felt like the range was probably nowhere near the advertised EPA range. I will admit that driving at 70 MPH on most highways will get many people tailing you, almost crashing into you, etc. I was closer to 80MPH on both my road trips, and I know that impacts the range. Great video!
That's their problem not yours. Dumb excuses are dumb.
Yeah... When you said 245, I was like; what? I thought the S has 255/45R19 tires up front...?
Your video confirms you said the wrong dimension.
yea
he even filmed the tire sidewall after saying that and he didnt correct himself, must be tired or something, not a big deal
Man 365 is awesome! Can’t wait for all mainstream EV’s to get 300+ in the real world.
Crazy amounts of videos. Well done
So far I have had no range problems going up and down the east coast for travel and business in my Tesla model S plaid overall I can go about 350 miles total I opted for the 21 inch wheels with a white exterior and a white interior.
Just took delivery of my 2022 Tesla Model Y LR with the 20” wheels and I am getting an estimated range of 330 miles at 93% according to the car. I was extremely surprised by that.
Under energy tab or the battery indicator? Battery indicator is EPA and doesn't factor in your driving. Look at the energy tab
Very impressie result indeed! Thanks for the video.
1. That "small little ten-thousand-dollar impact with the curb." 2. Alyssa the Range Whisperer.
Excellent demonstration. Just subscribed. Great job..............
Great video Kyle!
Amazing video as usual Kyle 🎉
this was very interesting. can't believe I just watched a 30 min video with full attention! kudos to u guys.
@8:35 "no regen at all, wow!" Yeah, that's how things are all winter where I live because the battery is initially too cold. Tesla recently added a firmware option to simulate regen with the friction brakes. ... Controls > Pedals & Steering > Apply Brakes When Regenerative Braking Is Limited.
Way to do it on the 19 wheels before the MPP rotors get installed.
Driving deep into the buffer is so bad for the battery. I'm glad you did it but I would never do it deliberately
I don’t normally comment until after I watch the video but a couple things stand out right away.
1. The Tesla model S is still one of the best looking cars on the road.
2. Call the electrician so Alyssa doesn’t have to charge the Rivian at a fast charger.
I assume they'll have charging options at the new office/storage place. Not sure if she'll be working there but that would be perfect to charge there for a few hours. If not, then yes, they need more options at the house.
The modelS is not a good looking car at all it’s hideous tbh! It has nothing special when you look at it Stfu!!!!
@@carholic-sz3qv Are you 13?
Lucid Air looks better.
I'm curious. Tesla has the low poer mode to limit a/c and motor power dilevery...I dont recall seeing that pressed in the video...Would that be something you do or for fairness no?
You seem to always use the vehicles distance from the trip meter. Should you not be using a GPS distance travelled for consistency across the tests?
Awesome test, kinda like I knew it would be. Thank you for this! If we r to do a direct comparison with a Lucid, u would have to get ur hands on a regular Model S with 19". I'd lend u mine but I live way too far away from CO.
Or maybe get a Lucid AGT Performance which we can then compare to this result for the Plaid.
I have a strong suspicion that the range difference between both cars would be negligible.
HI Out of Spec, thanks for all the content. I'm wondering what you've found to be the most efficient tires currently available for the Model S. Are these the ones? Can't tell whether these were all-season or not, but the 285 seems to be scarce/not exist.
Any comment on the automatic high beams. Any problems with it or works fine?
Great test! 👍
Nice work, thank you
Sick spec. Black with white guts and carbon 🔥 same as me! Cheers
Indeed superb efficiency.
I recently purchased a CCS (EVBase) adapter for my Model Y 2022 Long range. I tested charging on EVgo 350kw. The initial battery level was about 52%. I didn't precondition the battery and charging started at 75kw. My adapter brand is EVBase. Do you know, if it is a good adapter? Not sure if I should buy a Tesla OEM CCS adapter or EVbase provide the same quality/speed of charging? Thanks!
So rated, to get the 396 is about 245 wh / mile. I suspect if you'd done this test in warmer temps, like mid 70s and on medium instead of low, you'd see even better results. You might think the lowest suspension setting will get you the best range, but the change in total toe can more than wipe out the slight gain in reduced drag. My MXP get's a few percent better in "low" vs "very low" (slightly different labels than MSP).
Testing out the new energy graph last night, I took it easy in my MXP for the 124 mile commute home. The energy graph says I paid a total 0.8% penalty for increased elevation. My X Plaid (with 20" wheels) got 268 wh / mile. The outside temp was mid 70s and I averaged 65 rather than 70. So under those conditions, I think you'd hit 245 wh / mile in your S Plaid.
EPA rated you might get at cruising speed closer to 60-65 mph.
Bjorn Nyland gets WLTP-like numbers with 90 kph (56? mph) cruising. Usually still too fast to match WLTP even in lovely summer weather. Super click aero cars can go a bit quicker on a cruise to match rated.
Would love to see what it does on the Martin wheels.
Alyssa has super powers....
when are you testing the new model s long range? pleassee nobody did this test yet lol
She's not a witch, she's your wife!🤣
Assuming Alyssa is Kyle’s partner, he probably got the couch that night. A Scottish dinner was available at the charging spot. Hopefully, they chose dining more upscale while in a $140K car.
How do you charge at that CCS station, you have to download a app from the charging provider?
i found Teslas rated range is about the same as cruising at 65mph
so these results make sense
Krazy Kyle or King EV Kyle. I like both. 😂
You need to have Alyssa go buy some lottery tickets. LoL! Great video!
Beta FSD makes autopilot a lot better. Occasional ghost braking turns into a slight hesitation, almost there. 27K on my plaid
I have 2388 miles on my Model S Plaid. My first road trip is ahead of us. I love my yoke. What is the most impressive about noise, is how good the audio system is. Looking forward to testing my range as well. Thanks for the videos.
Lol….. the noise and audio system are noting compared to Mercedes, Bmw and others
@@carholic-sz3qv I beg to defer. I sold my 2017 750I to get this Tesla and I assure you the Tesla sound system is better. As a matter of fact, in Theater mode, it rivals indoor Theater sound systems. My guess is, your referring to a Model Y or Model 3.
@@theplumbingwholesale lol….. that’s your opinion and also are you serious!? Comparing a 5 years old car to this tesla!!! Grow up!!!! Also what justifies that you ever owned a bmw 750i? Gtfo!!!
@@carholic-sz3qv Same reason I owned a Mercedes and Genesis 5.0 R spec. I love vehicles. BTW, what do you drive? My truck is a 2019 Denali if you're interested. BTW, ask other Tesla Model S Plaid owners about their sound system.
Tim I also love my model s Plaid sound system, I had a fully loaded 2021 A8 and this sound system kicks its butt. Carholic has never even sat inside a Tesla... Typical Tesla hater... it happens
you said model s is significantly louder than lucid air, is bmw iX the more silent of all these cars? what about suspension comfort between all these cars?
There is a huge difference in tire size between the 19" Plaid and the Lucid Air on 19" wheels. Run both cars in the same tires just for fun.
Yep lucid has several tricks up their sleeve besides their apparently very efficient motors
@@bob15479 and lucid is even heavier vehicle
@@carholic-sz3qv and yet it’s still more efficient. Very impressive
@@bob15479 Looks like you guys are misunderstanding, the Tesla is running significantly wider tires at the rear compared to the Lucid so that's impressive for Tesla not Lucid.
@@boostav we are in agreement. lucid touts their 12% efficiency advantage. but they leave out that they do it with narrow tires.
I think their powertrain is indeed more efficienct apples for apples. but not 12%.
24:44 this part made me laugh lmao
Can you recommend some apps which make EV ownership "easier" ? For people like me looking for first EV. Thanks
Why are there never any in-town, stop and go type range tests?
Does your driver side mirror shake on the non smooth pavement?
Hey thanks! Why did you chose 70mph? Also, I believe the ideal ambient temperature is 74.
I average 180kw in our M3LR when driving super conservatively with autopilot. It's pretty flat here though.
Love that car - coming soon to Denmark
I would appreciate a little stats recap in metric units at the end of the video, keep going with the good work!
Great and impressive test, 265Wh/mi at 70mph?! That's about as good as my Model 3 RWD!
Kudos to range-psychic Alyssa, hah, just ask next time to save some hours!
You might want to wait and re-do some Tesla range tests after 2022.36 update comes out, apparently it expands the Energy app to show % efficiency losses from drivetrain, HVAC, computer/screen, etc while driving, plus phantom drain parked (sentry, cabin overheat protection, etc) and %diff from car's projections. Might give more insight into how much loss there is for HVAC and things..
You need to ask Alyssa about stock prices.
Of course it uses only one motor going at those constant slower speeds what did you expect!? And it’s not even slippery road
Does the circumference of the tire affect the mile traveled? Where does Tesla's speedometer get its information from?
The top pros verify the car's indicated trip meter on a known stretch to come to a trip over/under %.
This usually needs to be taken in/out of indicated consumption as this is calculated based on INDICATED distance, which is not real distance.
I think most cars just count whele revolution and use a GUESSED circumference. For SOME reason, they don't cross-reference GPS in the background to come to a proper number on the dash. I don't know why they can't pretend to care about numbers they present. But Tesla is the greatest offender when it comes to quoting anything that can be exprssed through a number...
What is the benefit of ccs charging vs supercharging? Got my raffle ticket.
Is there a list of all the cars that you range tested???
Kyle, how much greater range do you think the non-Plaid with stock 19” wheels achieves on this 70mph test? It’s a lighter vehicle with one less motor and rear tires possibly smaller. The rear tires are 10” wide vs front at 9”. I’m guessing 30-35 miles more.
Same wheel and tire options between the LR and Plaid. The extra range would come pretty much exclusively from the weight savings. Maybe you get another 10-15 miles. Unlikely to get more than that.
@@degnarius the LR has 5kwh extra battery and the rears are 245 vs 285. Should see about 390 with the LR 19” with aero hub caps on.
@@jpscharged I just double checked. Wheel options are the same between LR and Plaid. Tires are summer tires on the Plaid but dimensions are the same. I’ve never heard anything about the LR having a larger battery. Pretty sure that’s incorrect.
365 highway wow. Was AC on?
so you stopped before it was dead? So what is the range then?
EQS 580 has 10 miles less EPA than the 450+ which Tom tested to be 395 miles.
Will it still beat the Plaid?
can’t - Mercedes is ancient technology for unrealistic prices!
The noise is coming from the tires. I changed out the original Continentals to Pirelli Tires incredible difference in noise reduction.
Not bad almost hit the 395 miles Tom made in the EQS.
In fact, a bit better since the EQS has a bigger battery. Furtheremore, the 580 is not the "performance" model. The AMG version of the EQS hasnt undergone real world testing but I dont think it will do this well despite the bigger battery.
Using headlights also drains some battery.
Couples that charge together stay together. ;D
I wonder if turning on drag strip mode would be a decent way to precondition
Track Mode on Model 3 Starts to cool down everything, because when tracking, getting heat is much less an issue than getting rid of it. What you can do instead is to precondition the car before starting the drive, that way the pack is at least at a decent temperature - not ideal, but not terrible either.
Edit: 3kw past hitting zero. Nice
-TLDW-
-Did you run it to "turtle mode" like the EPA does or just to zero %?-
This is important and also why fools like Edmunds keep claiming that Teslas don't hit their rated ranges despite matching their rated efficiencies in their tests. If another car (say Audi Etron) stops 100 yards after zero you just can't rely as much on those bottom percent as you can in a car where you know there is a buffer and can tell how much from the power limit.
Past 0% yes... some power restriction but maybe not completely empty...
Edmunds started including the range under 0%.
@@updlate4756 ah. Didn't know. Thank you
Have you ever done model y ?
365 is awesome but ranks below the 395 that your channel ranked with the EQS 450+. Of course the EQS is rear wheel drive only. No one is in the same category as the Lucid AT.
beautiful car
My plaid S is getting 200 miles driving locally with 19” tempest wheels so I’m sure freeway might be better this time around. Thought it gets better range locally but that’s not the case. 😢
Someone might have asked this, but was the car recalibrated for the smaller wheels? That also makes a difference on range and speed
The tires are the same height as stock. 19”s and 21”s are both wearing 28” tall tires.
When he bought the car it had 19" wheels. Then he put on Martian 20" wheels, but there's no option in the Tesla menu to set 20" wheels. It's either 19" or 21" choices.
Tesla phantom braking is one of the reasons that I have not bought a Tesla.
Will it still happen if I don't get FSD and autopilot?
Or will I need to disable the automatic emergency braking system?
it only happens when you have either Autopilot or FSD active. it doesn't just brake randomly while you're driving it yourself.
what's the difference in the long range vs the plaid? would it get a few more miles?
tesla website got updated with range and youll see the difference
I think you can hit the EPA range at 55MPH.
67mph average will hit it. You should stick with an ICE car as you have too much anxiety. 😂
got 3.5 miles out of my Tesla model s 2021 340 miles ( above 70 mph) phoenix to Las Vegas nev)
Something strange I experienced, could be a bug. ??
Great video and watch all the way through. Question?
Put my climate on 61 degrees F on auto model X and 70 - 75 mph. My efficiency was almost 40 to 50 watt hour per mile less. Even on very low suspension before it was 10 whr/mile difference.
Have you tested your Tesla at temperature settings 61 -62 degrees F to confirm that is a higher (maybe lower) consumption ?
I hope it is not too much trouble.
61 is really cold man
@@chengcao418 in the model 3 seemed colder at even 70 degrees. But the model X 2016, 61 degree is cold but not uncomfortable . I wonder if anybody else experienced a change in efficiency the past month.
Do you know what your numbers mean! Believe me, your efficiency was not 40 to 50 kilowatt hours per mile less! (Hint: kWh versus Wh)
@@MrAdopado thank you so sorry for the mistake. I edited the mistake I meant watt hour per mile. I haven’t tested much lately but my daily commute consumption has improved. I want to test it with a trailer but the same one I tested the past. (?) I am more curious if the new can achieve longer range base on same conditions.
@@chengcao418 family seem ok on the long trip.
Given that the tesla has a heat pump it may even outrange a lucid if it is slightly chilly out
Elon said running a tesla down to 0% does irreversible damage. Thanks for taking one for the team for this range video.
When did he say that? Irreversible damage is always being done even just sitting there aging. Running it down to 0% is nowhere near as bad as charging to 100% and leaving it there.
I was an early adopter and there were almost no chargers. I was at 12 miles remaining range and 4 miles from the. Harper when it scrolled to zero and died. 😢2013
I HATE the phantom breaking.
awesome range, but still a long way to go to reach ice range :(
Diesel is about 3 times that range 😅😅😅😅 someone recently did a trip from the UK to Italy or somewhere south Europe one tank over 900 miles
You didn't explain why you CCS charged instead of supercharged.
Is Tesla ever going to address the phantom breaking issue?
I would have shut the AC and extracted a little more range. Ideally you should load your car with weight of 4 persons. The results in PNW would be different due to hilly nature.
What is average speed?
How does it feel driving with a rectangle?
The Model S is a beauty. It's ICE Pickup trucks that look like giant square blocks.
Does it have as good a ride as a EV6.....
Two of you in the car and yet the driver is the one who needs to hold the phone to video.
RUclips video short: Range psychic Alyssa -- with under lighting, an appropriate Halloween outfit, and a sinister laugh -- makes range prediction of the Tesla Model S Plaid with Martian Wheels
My Model S LR had WAY more phantom braking than my 2022 Model Y LR. Could it be the LiDAR?
Neither has Lidar
@@VegarHenriksen Are you sure? I thought the refreshed 2021 Model S LR still had it.
Lidar no
Radar most likely
Model s plaid 19 inch 255 front, 285 rear, efficiency is 3.80 at 70 mph (365 miles 96kwh, 92.5% of epa) vs lucid air gt 19 inch front 245, rear 265, efficiency is 3.88 at 70 mph(735 miles 112kwh, 84.3% of epa). It is impressive tesla. It will improve by 2-3% by using like lucid low profile tyres. And make a google spread sheet to show us all the test result
I like the yoke in my model S. I think I'm the only Tesla in Cheyenne with the yoke so far.
I'm not too far from you and have Plaid also
@@shawnbillings6591 you in the Cheyenne area too? I've only seen the older model s driving around.
@@mrdabbler545 No. I live east of Rawlins. So not too far away.
@@shawnbillings6591 I noticed a fair amount of Tesla's in Wyoming the farther east I go when I have to go to Green River for my job.
Wow,my guess while I was watching was 340...I'm shocked..
hello.....i was curious ....when you say the plaid is significantly louder on the inside versus the rivan......how significant it? maybe u should get db readings and compare them. love your vids by the way...great job!!
Yeah if he can said it’s louder it mean ms it’s significantly louder because he actually tested a lot of other cars! I bet you some ICE are even way quieter than that tesla at higher speeds
Alyssa, the Range seer? :)
Deff agree about half a steering wheel, other than the lack of obstruction to screen it seems ppl like'em just for the novelty which will wear off.
LOL... Go Alyssa!
Sorry if I missed it, how many miles do you have on your S? I was having a lot of phantom braking until I passed about 2500-3000 miles on it and now there have been very few, if any since then and just passed 7500 miles on my Y (all in under 3 months of ownership 😅). Wondering if it’s all still the car learning/camera calibration?
Curious to also know what the Long Range with the aero rims would do after those results? The Plaid is cool but more likely to upgrade to the regular S in the next few years.
updates improved software
Entertaining, ahhh.
Don't try this at home but I'm not at home so it's fine 😂