i cannot imagine the hatred that sparks and grows inside you, when you realize your partents send you to prison, because the cannot handle conflict like adults.
I guess it's the delusion of people telling themselves they do it because they love their kids but in reality it's because they're lazy. I guess the same could be said about belting and spanking your kid vs rationalizing an incentive structure.
@@gold-818 I think it's really not laziness but simply them genuinely not knowing what to do. Not everyone has the education to know how to raise kids, especially in a country like China that still has a lot of poor and uneducated people. So, they remember their own youth and parents instead and try to raise them as they were raised. That's probably not going to work though, but the parents simply don't know any other way of raising children. And from all the headlines and news they will genuinely think that their child is in actual danger and they have to stop them. To them it must sound like their child goes to hang out with drug addicts or something like that. So when the government then comes around with this program that has proven success (allegedly) and will make their child into a good citizen (allegedly), wouldn't they be bad parents if they didn't send their child? Again, don't forget how severely limited the access to the outside world is for most Chinese, especially if they are from the generation that doesn't use any internet.
@@lubue5795agree, these parents tried way too hard for their children so that none of them realized what are the actual correct solutions for those problems. Chinese education system is experiencing similar problems, the entrance to colleges is strictly guarded by a national exam for high school graduates, and the only way to get into a top university is to get a high score. The exam itself was aimed to test students’ abilities, not necessarily their abilities to *do the questions*. But unfortunately Chinese educators deem the exam is the only true goal, so they developed a system that forces students to spend 13 hours a day (middle-schoolers) and perhaps 15 hours in high school to learn answering exam questions. That’s a deviation from the original purpose of the exams and it ended up in a negative strengthening cycle which only makes the students get more and more schoolwork over time. I believe it is one of the most important problems for Chinese people, and they will solve it soon (at least in a decade). Unfunny facts: Some students drop out of their windows due to extreme pressure. (literally, this is not funny, I don’t want to use that word)
@@realbosstakea That is a VERY bold assumption. Every experience regarding abuse is very different depending on the person and family. Sometimes it's not even a grudge that people hold over their parents. They could understand and forgive. But even then they just don't want to associate or even contact with them because some wounds are just not able to heal as long as you are aware that you can meet that person and potentially hurt yourself again. Grudge is not the only thing that eats you alive. It's the constant collision of conscience between wanting to make peace with your past and wanting peace with your present.
imagine being taken away from your escape from reality, and instead of being put into reality youre put into a torture camp where reality is used against you, and then youre expected to somehow NOT want to escape reality anymore. shits crazy
Imagine your parents handing you this amazing device that allows you to completely zone out from your real life, where every day is a struggle, and then your parents believe you use this device too much so they send you to prison for using the device that they gave you too much.
Traditional parents who typically call their children rebellious almost always view their children as a robot with a flaw, rather than as a human being.
They always enforce discipline so they can get a specific type of child and so they can get the pre-conceived responses they want and they use all that to inform themselves on who the child is.
They’ll enforce a programmed set of desirable responses that they wanna see out of their child and anything unexpected or not in the responses makes them condemn the child, even if the response was a fundamentally good one, they will condemn them because it wasn’t the programmed one. It wasn’t the one they wanted and they do this to even extremes. Let’s say, for instance, a child wanted to be a police officer, but their parents predestined them to be doctors. For simply having an interest in being a police officer instead, they’ll likely reinforce behaviors that lead to being a doctor and condemn behaviors that even remind them of a police officer and they’ll do this for the rest of your life without any sincere attempt to empathetic understand, communicate, or hold anything other than an egocentric bias.
I am living through this, currently. Why can people be so psychologically stubborn? Why? Most people, upon reaction, will only say one or two things. And they forget. So easy do we forget. We all shut up and overlook everything. No one cares. No one's brave enough to do anything about anything and it results in never-ending pain for all. I am sure I have PTSD by now. I am not diagnosed, but I keep remembering. I haven't forgetten what has happened to me, even if what has happened is a far cry from what is shown in this video. I haven't forgetten what happened to others. And I hope I will never forget.
As a Chinese, I really don’t understand why many parents think that success must be linked to suffering, so they create suffering even if there is no suffering, and the more suffering there is, the better the outcome will be. However, they never think about whether suffering is really linked to success and maturity.
I believe it comes from their own experience of suffering. They suffered at the hands of their own parents and of their times; yet in the end they turned out okay and perhaps even became successful in life. They then rationalise their trauma through the logic that "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger," so they believe that suffering is necessary for self-growth and success. These parents then want to replicate the conditions of their own success with their children, after all, being successful in life is universally good.
I'm half Chinese (that side's lived in Taiwan for several generations), and I've seen that. Although I also think it's the Chinese government's example with the Uighur concentration camps, and more recently how their buddies in the Kremlin are treating Russia's minorities. Except worse, because it's parent-child rather than aspirations towards the empires of yore.
As a chinese person, i told my mom if she would send me to one of those places and she broke down in tears thinking about it. These programs are truly fucked up and should be stopped worldwide.
@@alexstewart4762 lol, did you even watch the video? The narrator literally called out the troubled teen industry in the US. Pay attention before trying to act smart.
From what I understand is that it can be a trigger word for ppl with suicide ideation sensitivity. "Murder" on the other word well I don't think a lot of ppl out there will get overwhelmed by an urge to go on a rampage just by hearing it. But it might not be the case I'm no expert.
@@timebladeare you ok ? Just remember your life is worth so much more than you know. You are special. You are loved and blessed by God. Get better soon.
I can't even blame the kid who let his mother starve to death after being sent to one of those camps. How could someone ever trust their parents again after such a breach of trust?
Pretty sure that she (child) had the right idea. The phrase "with friends like these, who needs enemies?" comes to mind, though, there isn't really any "enemies" equivalent for "parents". If parents are to provide safety and stability for their child, then, well, this mother was providing the diametric opposite, and... with her out of the way, the kid was probably better off.
@@caam0000Like seriously guys how are Japan and America beating China at their own game? How is it possible that Japan made a better Romance of the Three Kingdoms retelling than whatever China put out, or how America made a better kungfu movie than anything from China (not counting Hong Kong, but their heyday was during the pre-CCP era which only proves my point)?
@@Moonstone-Redux despite the “internet addiction” stigma China actually does have some eSports teams… and, surprise, they’re constantly losing to Japanese teams
i'm chinese, and i was born in china, and after a few years my parents decided to move me to Australia because they didn't like the way the teachers were treating their students. They had a metal rod and they would whip misbehaving students with it and often shout and humiliate students. after long years stay at Australia, i went back to china for a holiday, and they decided to put me into the schools at china again for a few months. my mental health dropped so low that they got worried that i was gonna get a bit suicidal so they never put me back into Chinese schools again after that holiday. now just imagine what the camps are like.
@@stanisawlewandowski2148 not permanently, i have a visa and I don’t count as local Australian citizen even tho I’m perm stay at Australia even if it against the laws but who th gives a piece of poo
I was sent to Phillips Exeter Academy for a high school summer training program. I had a lesson with Juilliard who told me, after hearing a piece of Bartok, to be a robot. I find your comment amusing because these institutions are the highest level of education available on the East Coast of the United States. Maybe they were torture camps and I didn't notice. Now I'm thinking more about it. I did leave because it was too hot.
I'm a Chinese kid who was put in a place like this when I was 10. After I was allowed to leave, I had trouble adapting back to society for YEARS. Then, everyone in the outside world, (who never experienced trauma) saw that I behaved autistic and bullied the crap out of me... There is no sympathy in this cruel world.
@@blagovest3239 Well, I'm now 15 and I spend like 22 hours a day in my bedroom and I only talk to people online now. I hope I can go to college and do whatever I want after that. And yeah that does mean the attempt to make me quit the internet failed cause it's my only way to talk to people now.
@@XSillyGooberX I'm American. I'm also deaf too. I communicate to people in the outside world online instead of in the real world. I was not in the same situation as you, but at 10, I nearly did something that would have reversed my life but I changed somehow. Whatever trust I had in people, especially those who exhibit terrible personalities or are manipulative, I often reject and avoid. Being friends with them are a time waster. I hope you get better man. I'm much older than you and have lived pretty much alone past my 30s. Good luck in whatever you do when it comes to college and don't give up.
They call it an addiction just because they don’t like it, by that logic surely you could call anything an addiction, “grid mindset addiction” “going to work addiction” “studying and getting good grades addiction”
That's the thing... They would rather you get addicted to studying and working than playing games because at least it would "do you good" My parents would rather see me exhausted from studying, get nosebleed because of stress rather than see me play games because: Studying> top grades> get good college/university> get rich> would be thankful for parents> repay parents for everything> retire and have a good life
China is a communist country. They don't believe in freedom. The government tells you how to live your life. If you disagree then they put you in a labor camp. Just a gulag by another name. Same in every communist country. I don't concern myself with the hell that happens in China because there is nothing we can do about it. My worry is the people who want to bring that kind of system to America. Communist sympathies are growing among young people but they have no idea what they are getting themselves into. American far leftists need to be educated about what will happen if communism takes root in America.
According to Murican YT propaganda... they butcher kids in the US ('gender change') but always more concerned about imaginary 'crimes' in China, Russia, NK, Iran, Venezuela and everyone else not serving the Empire.
I know somebody who was sent to one of those troubled youth camps here in the US. Place called Diamond Ranch Academy, they were tossed into simulated homelessness and forced to sit in the grueling desert sun with no water. They suffered many atrocities all the while their website showed green pastures, horse riding and more. When their parents came to visit they were mortified and thankfully pulled them out despite the camp pushing against it. Many people who were sent there wound up commiting suicide later in life and the Ranch itself has recently shut down after several kids have died due to neglect/abuse. There are many more places like that in the US however and they are truly some of the most vile and disgusting places on the planet! Torturing and absuing troubled youth in need of help for profit. does it get any more deplorable than that.
It does, when organized and funded by government like in China and most likely NK too. God forbid if tyrannic regime in my country survives long enough to establish something similar.
And there they are chinese nationalists . This is projection and nothing will change in your country , when you don't recognise this your country is doomed.
Yeah but it's better for views to do propaganda against China than the US. For anyone actually informed, they realize both countries are more similar than the opposite.
When I was 12 and it was summer break, one of my friend's mom suggested me to train in one of those "Camps" because I plays a lot of games back then. I remember that my parents firmly disagreed with the deal, and eventually friend's mom gave up. After the summer break, I saw my friend a lot less, and he talked a lot less. I still doesn't know what happened to him during his stay at that place, but he changed so much and left my friend group.
As a chinese, this shit is actually true. YangYongXing (which is the organizer for the electroshock torture camp) is still not being captured or sued and was living normally for the rest of his lives, and didn't face like any consequences. Which i think its really fucked up; This is scary because, still in china, there are these teen camps that captured those teens without their own will. Some of the organizer pretend their the "military" or "cops" and capture the teens offline through brutal force. And many teens are being electroshocked and faced inhumane torture, and are locked up like in prisons. There are many people actually trying to report these things to the cops, but sometimes its just effortless work. I really think this shit shouldn't occur in my country, which i'm really sad of it (sorry if this is confusing; my english is kinda bad, i did my best :( )
Your english is good mate. Don't pressure yourself. Contempt culture sucks in general. What should gain you respect, is how good you treat others, not how bad you let others treat you. The best way to help someone is the way you are both comfortable with, not the way it is required by anyone else. Don't follow pride, follow what you think and feel is good.
It’s so sad that a bilibili content creator and his team who dedicated their time and effort on debunking these schools had come out to say that a lot of his friends were sent extreme death threats from the school (like funeral equipment to their doorstep) and some even took their own lives. This deserves to be spoken up about.
@@vikibg-wt2to Ha. You should do some research into the Chinese Internet. The CCP has complete authority over the entire internet. All social media platforms require their users to submit their real names and identification as proof to make an account. Anything that can be even remotely be construed as anti CCP no matter how small or insignificant is immediately shut down and wiped from the internet, and the person who posted it can expect a knock on the door from CCP goons. Often times leading to them being disappeared for ever.
@@theroyalwhale i hate the firewall because it's not even good at being a firewall. Anyone who wants information gets information, so the only reason it exists is to prey on the poorer/less technologically inclined people who don't use or even know what a VPN is.
These types of "behavioral schools" for "troubled" kids also exist in the U.S., kidnapping/abuse and all. I'll never understand the reasoning behind sending your kid to a place like this no matter what they do. I feel like it's just people refusing to admit they're not good parents.
And your feeling is correct. The parents can't handle conflict with their children or they don't like that their children are independent and don't want to be brainwashed into their parents believes.
For anyone curious, I cannot recommend Joe vs. Elan (elan. school)enough. It’s a comic by a former „inmate“ at one of those „wilderness schools“ and it’s horrifying
@@qq84yeah I was in a family too broke for the wilderness therapy, so I was just shuffled from psych ward to psych ward. I was often starved or locked into rooms screaming for mercy. I was forced to take medications I was allergic too not once, but twice. when I denied them they just injected it. Horrid.
I studied piano with Juilliard as a teenager and then entered a torture environment later on that had a keyboard in the "community room." I was playing Schumann's First Loss, which might be the saddest piece of piano music ever written. Suddenly, I was charged at by a gigantic young male who had a video game fixation. He ran directly at me (I am very small) and nearly knocked me off the piano bench, throwing me into the wall. Then he stopped and informed me that I "must stop playing" because he had to play video games. He required that the entire room be empty and refused to share space with anyone, insisting that he owned the entire art/exercise/music/movie room. It snowballed and was an absolute nightmare.
i think the issue with gaming addiction in china isnt that kids nowadays are just that lazy or that games are THAT addicting (although they can certainly suck you in) but its that these kids these PEOPLE are so incredibly stressed by the outside world in a way that they themselves might not even recognize, that the fun escapism that games are meant to provide basically becomes a heaven for them. the fact that their standard for whether someone is addicted to games is that they prefer games over studying, immediately demonizing computers and computer games, without even trying to understand the person or the technology is very telling of how that society thinks. addictions are not just physical, they are also emotional. they use games to help themselves feel better, but because the problem is still there and never fixed, they can only want more and more of what is pleasing, which is why they get addicted to games the same way someone who's very stressed might get addicted to drugs, tobacco/nicotine, or alcohol. the problem is not games or the children. the problem is a society that is expecting more and more, wanting these people to be better than perfect and for them to act like robots. they're now so desperate to escape those expectations that the emotional pleasure games give them are comparable to the pleasure you feel from taking actual drugs.
Exactly. It's the same like the drug epidemics in the west. Instead of fighting the reason why people abuse drugs in the first place they just fight the drugs. That's like ignoring a broken leg and only swallowing painkillers instead of taking care of the broken leg. This makes me assume that it's not really about health but submission. To create obedient worker drones that serve the government's interest, even if the worker drones die in the process.
@@laaaliiiluuu i genuinely dont think its a conspiracy like that, but i certainly do think that the parents just have absolutely NO clue what is actually wrong since there is so much misinformation that is pushed by nearly all other adults, government and professionals included. parents want their kid to be healthy, but fail to realize that the real issue is not a mysterious hypnotizing computer game, but the horrific conditions of stress that these children are subject to. and they think this because they're constantly engrossed in the idea that studying harder is ALWAYS good, so unless something big happens to truly open their eyes, they refuse to think of the possibility that the insane academic pressure is the real issue. the obsession with academics is a deep rooted cultural and historical thing too, so i can understand why this would be the case, and so i hope that chinese society can open their minds to a deeper understanding of our problems soon, and not let this kind of thing haunt us.
@@yosdeiselpetrol9496the question than becomes WHY is the misinformation spread in the first place and why did it become so popular? money or control imo
@@delta-1 nope! or well, its not that simple at least. imo, the misinformation isnt spread maliciously, at least not in the vast majority of cases. however, people do try to capitalize off of the issue, BUT this is often because they themselves are also misinformed people who truly believe in that kind of stuff, so much that they get very cruel with their methods of "fixing" these children. the misinformation issue is very serious in east asia, likely because iirc this technology comes from the west, and bc people don't understand it and also don't want to take the westerns' word for some things (much of the older generations think westerners are stupid, etc and thats why they think how they do) they instead treat this tech and the reactions to it with some level of paranoia. bc they don't think anything can be wrong with their own society (cognitive bias), they instead assume that stuff like video games are some sort of horrible "magical drug" that has ruined their children and even many adults when really it IS the societal norms that are at fault here.
As someone who probably actually has an internet addiction, it enrages me that the problem was rightfully recognized so early in China, yet that they proceeded with the worst way possible of dealing with it
There is a well codified process on diagnosing issues so that they don't pop up again, but too often people don't follow up on it either because it takes up too much work or it would lead to the discovery of some very uncomfortable truths that might end up implicating the one who asked. It's used a lot in manufacturing because failure to do so means very expensive cleanup and repair bills for the company. Yet in society, people tend to not realise what the costs of not regularly implementing root cause analysis are. Internet addiction at its base, is but a symptom of larger societal and psychological problems that need to be addressed before the symptom of Internet addiction goes away, just like any other kind of addiction. But in the context of Chinese society, trying to get down to the root causes would have you run into some of the hardest questions that people, especially politicians, would be embarrassed to have asked of them, so it is often not done.
I think Chinese people consider internet addiction something much lighter than what American parents say internet addiction is. Addiction is not something that's easy to define precisely. Same may think addiction starts at 3 hours a week while others say it's 10 hours a day. Considering the insane amount of strictness of asian parents those teens are not in danger of the internet probably. Or to put it in other words doing anything but studying is dangerous there, internet is just one activity that some of them can escape with from the harsh long hours of constant concentration.
@@Kepitano I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess stuff like human rights abuses like the right to privacy, freedom of expression/information, freedom of religion, right to protest against the state, non-existent health and safety regulations, worker's rights, institutionalised corruption, mass censorship/propaganda, wealth inequality, housing crisis, population crisis (eg one child policy; gender gap), economic uncertainty, tofu dreg construction 😅
yeah, like how is that even remotely legal i know its China, but still, can a family really send there 30 year old Onkel to de facto prison for "internet addiction" without his consent for months? deprivation of liberty without a court sentence or even a trial. dystopian
It is worth mentioning that this kind of facility is in completely different states in different regions of China. I live in Beijing, and none of my classmates have ever experienced this kind of thing. However, in less developed cities, you can even see advertisements and advertisements for "Internet addiction treatment agencies" on the streets. In addition, this video has been translated and uploaded to Chinese video websites, and the comments on both sides are surprisingly consistent this time🤣
@@stephanideleon7215because the dude you just replied to is being paid to flap their lips about bullshit, that's how lol Either that or actual bot, though they can feel free to prove the bot allegations wrong.
As a citizen of an Asian country, I can confirm that education is very very competitive in most countries of Asia. Most Asian parents think that engineer or doctor is the only future for their child. If someone wants to do some business or online things, it is mostly considered failure by Asian parents. This kind of competitive education has destroyed many child's young ages and they are now just nothing but some heartless robot.
And the suicide rates are sky high and life satisfaction is Abysmal. Yet the brain dead government and parents blame videos games instead of a cancerous work culture.
for a 16 year old girl to let their own mother starve to death after being sent to one of those camps is insane, if the girl was that emotionally scarred and abused to do that to her own mother then that just shows how abusive these camps are. and the fact this is supposed to cure “internet addiction” is off limits when they literally torture kids and even adults to the point where they literally are scarred for life and defeats the purpose of curing anything when it makes more problems. Conclusion; these “rehabilitation” camps are just glorified prisons you get sent to for playing games for a bit too long, oh and i forgot to mention they also mentally and physically abuse you for months on end for no reason when just prison alone is already enough to traumatize any kid for life, let alone this dystopian bullshit they employ to these poor kids.
I’m so happy I don’t live in china. The closest experience I have to this has been spending a month in the psych ward which that alone traumatized me for life and this is in America. With fascism and authoritarianism on the rise in this country, I really hope the USA doesn’t go down the same path as China. The trauma they’re experiencing is unbelievable and I’m so grateful that I live here for now.
This is almost IDENTICAL to The Elan School in Maine, USA. Actually insane it continued for so many decades with parents paying huge fees for the torture of their own kids.
@@JamesR624 Neither CCP camps or Élan School were even slightly religious in any way. They both suppressed religious expression. Sounds like you agree with them.
We had this in Britain when I was young. They were called borstals. The men in charge were often very violent and engaged in sexual abuse and a lot of physical abuse. They treated you like an animal and the punishments were intended to degrade and frighten you
@Alcatroz_officail You might not know this, but the people behind fern already did something similiar. Only with their german channel "Simplicissimus" in german TV (ARD) with a documentary about russia, called "Putin's Bären" / "Putin's bears". Sadly it's only in german, as far as I know.
whose gonna tell you people in netflix are communists , they have very heavy left leaning tinking sytem so anything that hurts the reputaion of communists is improable
Its even better than netflix cause he doesnt take a story that can be explained in 20 mins and split it into 8 needlessy long episode that have no pace and feel boring after half an hour like netflix does. This is solid straight to the point, loving it
I'm Chinese and used to live in China. I wanna add one more side note to this whole thing, the most infamous "doctor"/facility owner is Yang Yongxin, he is also the original inspiration for Dead By Daylight's Killer "Doctor" as thousands of gamers in China wanted to have him forever remembered as a killer. For people who are interested in what he did you should google it, but I believe most of the detailed context will be in Chinese results, still, even just by scratching the surface with limited English results, you'll get a good idea on how fucked up it is.
I was wondering what type of torture methods the doctor was using in room 13. Electoshock therapy definitely caught me off guard. Then to hear that it was done for minutes with no anesthesia really got me. Those poor kids that had to go through that. Electroshock therapy can be known to leave the patient with serious side effects in some cases. One of the side effects is memory loss, which is kinda ironic. You worry about your kid spending too much time on the computer and not studying. To then send him to a juvenile detention center (what they really are) where they can end up with brain damage, which could permanently affect their learning and memory. Fear really makes you do illogical things.
Something similar happened to me in Mexico when I was a teenager. I used to utilize the computer day and night and not go out very much, my older sister who was worried convinced my parents to take me to a similar place, there were mainly drug addict, rape victims, and me. It was like psychological torture camp with sprinkles of religion, very traumatic.
I'm from Goa, my case was a bit different. My grades were fine and all and there were no issues at school. It was just that my parents felt it was their right to control every aspect of my life and I did not comply. They initially sent me to a psychiatrist to see if anything was wrong and when they did not get the results they wanted they took matters in their own. It was mental torture at first, began with public belittling, insulting beating with almost anything they could get their hands on especially metal rods. When this didn't work, they being the religious nuts that they were put me through more than 3 hours of exorcism, where they bound me to a bed and had those catholic priests carry out their crap. After this they even tried hypnotherapy. I survived through all this torture, but was transferred to boarding school in another state where they made sure to have full control of my life without my knowledge. After finding out, I made a vow that I would never forgive them even if they were dying in front of me. Later I managed to escape that hellhole by getting accepted in the UK to complete my masters.
I have been to one of these boot camps. I lived in China 10-15 years ago and was taken to one as part of a group outreach/volunteer thing. It was the middle of winter and they had no heat at all in any of the rooms other than a very small coal burning stove in the office for staff only. This was on purpose - either to save money or torture the kids, probably both. They had no hot water and in fact only had running water a few hours a day. They had to spend long hours standing or running in the courtyard - and I truly mean _hours._ If one kid got in trouble they all were punished in this way. Kids would sometimes escape but it was on a mountain in a remote area so they'd always be caught and brought back before they got anywhere. Aside from punishment, the rest of their time was spent in the classroom; they got no free time at all. And this was all because they were supposedly addicted to the internet. Some of the other foreigners in the group I was with decided to volunteer weekly to teach the kids English, reasoning that they were the only little bright spot in the poor kids' week, at least they could try to bring a little bit of happiness to them. I, however, refused. I was furious that the group even organized the trip. That trip was basically used as a photo opportunity for the owner to get good press. And I felt like between that trip and the others going regularly, the owner would use that as a big selling point to parents. At that time and in that area of China having actual Americans, Brits, Australians, etc. teaching at your school was very prestigious. So while they might be bringing a little bit of happiness to the kids, in the long run they were enabling the school to continue to exist and attract more parents to send their kids there. I don't think I'd ever been so furious as I was on that trip, seeing the conditions the kids had to live in and knowing my presence was just going to help the owner torture more kids.
Unfortunately, you get it wrong. What you attended was a high school "军训 military training" that the Chinese government used as a nominal substitute for military service. Junior high school, senior high school and university students are required to undergo military training for one month when they just enter school. The leader of the school you taught at may have had a problem in his mind when he invited a group of foreigners to observe military training with the connotation of national defense education. In those days, many people liked to show "international" their organization are by just adding some random foreigners in their photos.
@@williamwan3712 Yeah, no. They were specifically there because they were "addicted" to the internet or video games. Many of them had been there for months/years, they were of various ages, they did not do any military trainings or wear any military uniforms, many of them had been tricked or basically kidnapped and brought there. I have also seen the military training students go through and this wasn't that. Try not to speak about something you honestly have no clue about - it really speaks volumes about your intelligence, but unfortunately not in a good way.
This is also an extended, and unintended, consequence of the infamous One Child Policy. When your only kid just wants to have fun, the parents often panic, because literally their ONLY lifeline to financially support the family and continue the family into the future is NOT working. Compounding this issue is the GaoKao, the university entrance exam that literally determines your entire future. One shot. No redos. Finally, these parents are from the generation that grew up through the Cultural Revolution, which was a brutal 10 year period where all societal trust was shattered, leaving the adults of today with terrible emotional regulation, trauma, and a sad willingness to want to use violence to enforce control over what they have. Put these three things together, and you have an entire society that runs on extreme anxiety and low empathy. I don’t get along with my parents most of the time, but I’m still grateful we left China all those decades ago so that I can build a less stressful future for my family in the West.
This comment just showed me how clueless I am about the modern history and culture of China and how wrong I was to hold the competitiveness of Chinese society to such a high standard. Thank you bro
The One Child Policy. The gift that keeps on giving. @@konstantinosdimitropoulos3533 That's kinda the problem. We don't actually learn about modern society, and we venerate shitty behaviour that gives results on paper. In Canada, we're about 3 steps away from this with our education system, and yet stupid rednecks champion for following in China and Japan's footsteps. They do this because they are clueless about the bigger picture. We complain about how we're losing to China and Japan, and how we need harsher schools with higher math scores instead of all this pussy woke stuff and feelings, yet completely ignore that China and Japan are imploding on every level because of this same behaviour.
@@ViewOf lol she got delicious smelling meats hanging all around the mom & plays dissonant piano all day long singing “mommy would u like some sausage”
My best friend (now adopted sister) got sent off to a extreme religious school for "Soul Therapy" for questioning their families religion by asking the harder questions in the bible, thats was it. It was not a boarding school like her parents told her, it was a compound in a different state. But luckily it was escapable one but if she left she would be excommunicated instantly. She had managed to hide the phone she had in secret, she had it for a long time then as the situation with her church was turning sour long ago an this cellphone was her lifeline. We had planned once her brother turned 18 we were going to get them both but then this happened an tossed a wrench into things but we still got her brother later on. The evil things she an her brother went through they still struggle telling us to this day. The things they went through was insanely abusive and that's before she ever got tossed in the torture school. But they are with us and actually thriving an I am so grateful to have them as family.
Words can't describe how disgusting and horrifying these camps are, I feel so bad for every one of the victims subjected to them. Even for the genuinely internet-addicted people, they deserve proper medical care, not whatever this nonsense is.
Had anybody else ever felt in their youth that their parents would rather blame everything else than themselves? "Get off your phone, go out, do something productive" - They punish kid's desires, yet rarely provide alternatives appealing enough to interest their child. "Don't touch that egg, you'll break it" - Kill the curiosity, to save something cheap and abundant instead of encouraging the kids to experiment. This goes on and on. Then comes the school and something that should have been fun is turned into a stressful, life-sucking competition. "do well or else..."
Or in my case never let me outside yet complained I was overweight antisocial and had no friends outside of school Never let me have a school sport or club and I never stayed for detention because I wasn’t allowed so I’d have marks on my record for skipping detention despite not having permission Then when I’m an adult I’m chastised for having “poor social skills” even though he’s the ONLY person who has an issue with it, and tells me I should’ve stayed in the autistic speech class even though I never had autism and they taught barebones speech excersizes that made me feel like a kindergartener rather than a high schooler.
Why do you need to break an egg for yourself to understand that it will break? Do you need to go to space yourself to believe it exists? Do you need to create an engine yourself to know it will power a vehicle? Do need to drown to understand that you cannot breathe underwater? Almost everything you know is second-hand. Why highlight this random specific thing?
@@KonglomeratYT Because if you have a kid that's a couple years old, you want them to experiment, touch things, see things, feel them, learn how they work, get interested. Yet people would rather tell their kids "don't touch it or it will break" rather than give them the said egg and guide them through something like boiling it and making a sandwich. They would rather save a few damn cents like they're made of gold than support the curiosity of their children. That's how you end up with a janitor dissinterested in life, rather than an architect, an artist, a scientist or literally anything productive. On the side note - You probably haven't broken enough of them since you clearly missunderstood what I was saying.
@@KonglomeratYTThe alternative is to believe everything you read. I used to want to dismantle old tech to look at it and was told i couldnt due to the mess it would make. It can be good to satisfy curiosity for learning and can foster development of new hobbies
Unfortunately, it really happened to me half a year ago, but it destroyed everything and caused me immense pain. I reported it to the police while I was in the internet addiction treatment school, but they chose to ignore it. After I got out of the school, I also reported the school to the police, but they still chose to ignore it and threatened to detain me, forcing me to delete the videos I took of the school and warning me not to post them online. When I needed help, the Chinese government chose to ignore it and prevented me from revealing the truth. I firmly believe that such a government will eventually perish.
I'm really interessted where China will be in 10-20 years when all these traumatized children have become adults and are the ones deciding how things should be.
there are enough people in the country who havent gone to these camps that these troubled adults could easily just be forgotten by society. china is big enough that ccp elites who run the gov won't be affected at all and there will still be more than enough people who haven't had their lives destroyed in the camps to be picked to become lower party members who carry out the orders and rise through the ranks
These kids most likely will not get to decide on anything. There's always rich second gens that get political powers through nepotism. Possibilities are almost completely closed down on regular people.
Bro how the hell is this allowed to be legal? Why do people think to raise a child you must be violent towards them, this is a whole other level. I'm glad fern managed to make this video, this is such a traumatizing thing to go through. These parents are just continuing this chain of suffering and turning their children into heartless robots.
I just couldn't imagine being sent off to torture by your own parents. The ones who are supposed to love you, shelter you, and nurture you. That stinging feeling of betrayal is what I believe would hurt even more than the torture itself.
The unending feeling of the world being inherently unsafe is worse than either of them, especially when you're surrounded by people who insist the world is good.
im a survivor of one, there are many in the US that operate unimpeded, i still struggle to form connections with people, and i experience ptsd symptoms similar to what youd see in a veteran from Iraq or Afghanistan, complete mood shift on the drop of a dime, insomnia, flashes of memory that completely envelope your mind till you either unalive yourself or eventually fall asleep from exaughstion . mine was park ridge valley, chattanooga . i was raped , beaten, isolated, druged and starved. thankfully everyone involved was fired and some were charged with child abuse but many are free on the streets
Thousands of children are in programs like this in the US as we speak. There are frequent deaths and claims of abuse, yet somehow they're allowed to legally operate with little to no oversight from the state. Parents are lied to, often not allowed to communicate with their children for months at a time, and many children come out permanently traumatized and end up homeless or in prison. Look into the troubled teen industry, it is beyond sickening that this type of shit is legal.
@@santaclaus5411 essentially they send "troubled teens" to wilderness camps where they are starved and abused for years and come out horribly traumatized (or don't come back at all)
@@santaclaus5411 There's a Webcomic called "ELAN School" where someone who was placed in one of these 'troubled teen' facilities wrote about his experience, it's a hard read, but probably the best insight you could get into it.
actually I spent some time in China and oh boy... internet addiction (especially mobile phones and social media) is a nightmare there; we talk about 80% of the society; extremely ubiquitous problem
To clarify and add on, "Uncle Yang" 羊叔 is a derogatory title to Yang Yongxin. It literally translates to "sheep uncle, " coined because the character for "sheep," yang, has the same pronunciation as his last name. He has a similar nickname 羊叫兽 (Yang Jiaoshou)，which sounds exactly like "Professor Yang," except jiaoshou here doesn't mean professor, but "noisy animal." The majority of the Chinese netizens today refer to him as a devil, which is even noted on his Baidu page (think of it as the Chinese version of Wikipedia). I am extremely disappointed that he managed to get away with everything he has done. Justice has not been served, and I can only hope that one day I'll see him pay for his actions.
This is why, as a student of fully Chinese descent living in China who performs above average, I spend my free time learning German, with the aim of - you guessed it - legally studying and living in Germany (or Switzerland). It's no secret that good grades are the key to success in China. So what do I do with mine? Try to be successful, of course. By leaving, and only coming back when the time is right. Viel Glück wünsche ich noch allen, die dieses ebenfalls versuchen. Viel Glück wünsche ich ebenfalls meine chinesischen Landesgenossen, die in einer solchen Zukunft leben müssen.
They will know but they can't speak about it. They have their own way of pointing out fraud when they witness it on their state ran social media platforms. But they can't ever speak the truth...
Born and raised in China. Fun fact: These concentration camps still exist in the disguise of "Traditional Chinese Schools". And yes, about 60% of the elder generation that I know still thinks that the Internet ruins their kids' future. I'm currently 18 and got admitted by a T10 school in US for undergrad. When my dad shared that news to my relatives, their common reaction was, "WHAT? HOW! HE PLAYS VIDEO GAMES SO OFTEN! HE SHOULD SUCK AT STUDYING! I THOUGHT HE COULDN'T EVEN GET INTO A COLLEGE! " .......bruh. I don't know whether I should be angry or sad about their statements. It just feels like all of my grind, sweat and tears are being written off only because I play Counter Strike and Valorant, and I can't even get mad about it since I have to "respect the elderly". People just have the tendency to believe that once you play video games, you will be a failure.
Congratulations on making it to the school, but I’m sorry that your own relatives think that you are a failure just because you play video games. 😢❤ KEEP ON GOING!! You are not a FAILURE🙏🏼🙌❤️
It's unthinkable what kind of atrocities are going on even today in every country there is. Great interview and video overall. Even though it highlights an issue that shouldn't be here in the 21st century, it makes my blood boil. Thank You for shining a light on this.
@@sandwich5344 Yeah, but I van't stand worrying about other countries' problems when my nation has its own. It's just going to add to my ever-growing cynicism.
also Yang and his "experts" alluded to a possible outcome of internet influence being murder then refers broadly to increased crime rates as support for his claims. a lot of crimes are small things where whether or not they are prosecuted is left to the discretion of the supposed victims which means it is influenced by the victims' perceptions. now imagine 2 people commit the same crime but 1 is an athlete and the other is constantly on the internet. which one do you think will be reported by these adults who have a negative opinion about the internet. if he wants to bolster his claims then he should narrow the crime stats to the murder rates or at least to felonies where law enforcement always takes it seriously then we can see if it is really worse.
Why is it always bad treatment with kid problems? If you suffer from drugs or gambling addictions, depression, disability or whatever else, it will be treated well, but if it’s something mostly kids do, like puberty, gaming, social media and others, it is fought so harshly? I understand that it is more significant when you’re a child, but it’s still insane
When I was at a UK university, I wrote an essay which argued that counter to the major academic claims, there is no great faceless 'machine' that disappears people, instead there exists vast swathes of complicit human beings who wilfully organise the torture of their own; suggesting there is a deep, cultural problem with the Chinese people that if left unchecked, would create torture and concentration camps to come into existence. My professor, a witness to the Tiananmen Sq. massacre, who was known to be heavily sponsored by the CCP, said the the theory was nonsense, my viewpoint was colonialist and that such travesties would never happen in the modern age. Watching this documentary and looking at what is happening in Xinxiang, I've never been happy to have been proven right and still, that professor has never changed her stance.
There is a book/movies called „The wave“ (Die Welle). It‘s fictional, but touches on dangerous social dynamics and how they can take on a life on it’s own. Basically a home room teacher is faced with somewhat dismissive students when teaching about WW2. They can’t really empathize with why people would have followed Hitler so easily, never really spoke up about the concentration camps and don’t think this would ever be possible today. So the teacher decides to do an experiment in which he re-creates similar social dynamics used during the reign of The Third Reich and of course it takes on a life on it‘s own. Basically first establishing an „us“ vs „them“, then introducing incentives to belong to the „us“, and then slowly punishing „them“ for not being like „us“. People who followed the NaZi Party and where part of organisations like the Hitlerjugend benefited greatly from social mobility and a sense of directions and belonging while people wo spoke out against the regime or even helped the jews/foreigners/cripples were punished or „disappeared“ themselves. So yes, in that sense, humans create and enforce their own „imprisonment and torcher“ by being complicit. But it also raises the moral/ethical question of: how much is it actually a choice? At what point can complicity still be considered a choice if the (perceived) alternative is social (and/or literal) death??“ And I think that‘s the point here: the actual or perceived alternative a person THINKS they have. And that is often directed by a „faceless dark entity“ aka fear. This idea really applies to both, the prisoners (the ones in good standing helped punishing the ones in bad standing to stay in good standing aka they were conplicit to avoid punishment themselves) as well as the parents (parents decided to turn a blind eye thinking ‚what is a short amount of pain for my kid’ vs. the (perceived) alternative of being a decade long outlier to chinese society. Not trying to excuse the parents behavior here, but there can be an argument made that if the system (aka faceless entity) were different, parents would not fear suffering under Chinese society and the incentive to send their kids to camps like that would not exist. Not sure if that touched at all on your essay. My point is that simply because Humans „decide“ to create their own prisons, it does not mean that there is not a „faceless entity“ pulling the strings willing them into action.
Been thinking this the whole time, these camps are so frustrating to me because wow, almost like treating people so subhuman isn’t gonna help them grow and change or whatever. real shocker indeed (sarcasm)
Disclaimer, as a Chinese, my English may contain grammar mistakes, point it out and I'm willing to correct it ；D Many Chinese parents would rather send their poor kids to these "totally legitimate compounds" rather than claiming their wrong way of education (Extremely high study pressure) casuing their kids to a point where the children tried to escape reality (through playing games). The parents would rather their kids to be corrected the most brutal way possible in the camps than having a talk with their kids and acknowledge their difficulties. What a shame... For those who are more interested in this topic, there is actually a game named "Breakout13", which it's Chinese name is translated to escape from room 13, with it's style like Detroit Become Human, perfectly explaining the dark truth behind. 10/10 for those who are willing to explore on this topic more, it is also shown in the end of the video for a second, easy to miss it. This "cure" is just pure chaos after all.
Very interesting to hear from a chinese! I cant imagine how chinese teens survive school, its already hell for me in school. And a little mistake I found "The parents would rather *let* their kids...". Your english is very good compared to most people!
When you say "Concentrated Camps" do you mean a prison-like place for people who aren't criminals? What are the Chinese characters for what you translated as "Concentrated Camps"? Here in the West those places are generally called "concentration camps" or "internment camps". Unfortunately many people here say "concentration camp" to mean "execution camp" (a prison-like place that intentionally kills/murders their inmates) so the meaning of "concentration camp" can get a bit confusing at times.
@@gjvnq Oh I see, thanks for correcting me first, what I meant by concentration camps I do wanna mean like the place which imprison teens for whatever reason and make them suffer. Really sorry to confuse you. I will correct it now.
that's how Christensen who was a TA or professor killed a student. pretended to be an authority figure when he wasn't and got a girl to get into his car. he tried this twice or more until he succeeded. pretending to be a police officer or making a false police report is a crime. the first target knew this and called in a report.
"We're from the government, we're here to help" - Ronald Reagan joking about the horrors of governmental overreach. The guy who started the war on drugs.
It was already a bit Dbd (montreal videogame ) use this guy as a base for one of their character like more that 5y back. Which now explain why their character is so creepy. (The doctor in dbd is you want to see)
the west is really biased against China. There is only one voice--an anti-China one--in the west now, but any other voice is banned, and anyone who said such kind of words is punished. French professor Christian Mestre at the University of Strasbourg once visited Xinjiang in 2019. He conducted independent investigations in many places there, talked with many Uyghurs, and later concluded that it was important for the Chinese government to take such measures to fight against terrorism. He also said that terrorism is a very serious problem in France and that France should learn from China to take such measures. He said so two years ago, but the professor recently had problems. Journalist Jérémy André Florès at “La Opinión” complained Prof. Mestre of saying so. Why does Mr. Florès accuse Prof. Mestre of supporting China? Because Prof. Mestre is currently serving as the ethics officer for the Eurometropolis project in which the city of Strasbourg is involved, and the city is debating whether to allow Huawei's 5G project to deploy in the city. See? In order to stop Huawei from entering the European market, Mr. Florès brought up the past to take down Prof. Mestre. Western people often say that there is no freedom of speech in China, but is there in the western world?
Such a bad idea for parents. Even if you force the kids into behaving differently, that doesn't mean they are going to be happy with you about it. When you are old, why will they take care of you after that mistreatment?
Honestly the girl who starved her mother for that is completely valid, imagine sending your own child to a prison camp instead of raising your kid properly
Imagine how fucked the culture of a country must be, when not only does the government create/endorse such places, but your own parents would willingly send you to them.
Uncle Yang literally sounds like a Hydra doctor. The whole administering electro shock on a person for thirty minutes at a time literally sounds like what Bucky went through in the Winter Soldier. It's very unfortunate that teens are being tortured just for being on the internet.
@@David-mj4gwDid you not see the point? The point was that the torture was so depraved he thought it was something that only happened in movies and not something an actual living human would actually do to another human.
@@Moonstone-Redux I do see the point but it’s such a limited world view. If the video covered someone who was comically evil I’d understand but dr Yang and the other camps are more depressing than shocking. It’s all in good faith though
@@marny3559 ew at us for being ace? Your point doesn’t even make sense lol. Oooh the woman over there doesn’t want a sexual relationship, how terrifying!! Grow up
My girlfriend is an MTF. She once had to go through this institution where she endured all sorts of torture. They kept her awake for days, deprived her of food, and wouldn't even let her drink water. There were so many other victims there, but they only provided a small amount of food, so most people went hungry. For other reasons, they forced my girlfriend to take massive doses of androgens and growth hormones. This messed up her hormones badly, causing ulcers to break out all over her body. If I remember correctly, they even executed a victim in front of many others in that place. When my girlfriend got out, she was left with severe PTSD, depression, and anxiety. The horrors she went through still haunt her to this day.
It's always miserable to be made aware of the ignorance of the masses and the government. Even more frustrating is how superficial the idea of "success" is in the mind of adults; how it is only reflected in grades and later the salary, social standing or work position of a person.
Whats even crazier is that this happens in the US too. Some wilderness programs are absolutely nuts. Wilderness goons take you in the night into the middle of nowhere, asking you to strip naked in front of them and then throwing you into a camp.
There are well-documented cases of death, abuse, and other potentially traumatic situations associated with or caused by wilderness programs, including the following cases: February 1990 - Three teenagers drown at Convict Lake whilst enrolled at Camp O'Neal.[18] Camp director Bobbi Trott, who was in charge during the teenagers' death, would go on to found Crater Lake School[19] and be a founding member of NATSAP.[20] May 9, 1990 - Michelle Lynn Sutton from California dies from dehydration whilst enrolled at the Summit Quest program.[21] 1990 - Kristen Chase dies three days into the Challenger Wilderness Program.[22] January 15, 1995 - Aaron Bacon dies from acute peritonitis whilst attending the North Star Wilderness Program.[23] 2001: The New York Times reports that there have been 31 deaths at outdoor camps for troubled youths in 11 states since 1980.[24] May 27, 2002 - Erica Harvey dies from heat stroke and dehydration.[25] July 15, 2002 - Ian August dies during a hike whilst attending the Skyline Journey Wilderness therapy program.[26] August 2002 - 11 teens are found in distress at a wilderness therapy program camp and taken into protective custody by Montana Department of Public Health and Human Services child and family services division.[27] September 18, 2002 - William Edward Lee suffers damage to vertebral artery after being restrained.[25] October 14, 2003 - Charles “Chase” Moody asphyxiates and dies after staff improperly restrains him at the On Track wilderness program in Texas.[28] March 23, 2003 - Cory Baines dies after a tree limb falls on his tent during the Catherine Freer Wilderness Therapy program.[25] August 28, 2009 - Sergey Blashchishen dies from dehydration and hyperthermia whilst at Sagewalk Wilderness Therapy Program.[29] November 23, 2014 - Alec Lansing dies from hypothermia and broken femur whilst trying to run away.[30] December 2015 - Six students are evacuated from Open Sky Wilderness Program and flown to Denver, Colorado with frostbite; the Open Sky Wilderness Program is accredited by Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Council, Association for Experiential Education, and the Department of Human Services for Colorado and Utah.[31] February 2024- A 12-year-old boy was found dead at a camp located in Lake Toxaway, North Carolina. He had arrived at the camp less than 24 hours before he was found dead by camp staff. [32] Days later, a woman files a lawsuit alleging she was sexually assaulted by a fellow camper at age 12 at the same camp. [33]
*Su1c!de has been overly simplified and exaggerated as commonplace. What results in that is a lack of people TRULY understanding it (🤐or differentiating when the government makes to happen). MOST people who say they have "*Su1c!de al" thoughts are NOT completely honest, or committed to the process, and may be using it for attention (justified or not) Having the actual condition which goes beyond emotion is very very VERY sad. Anyways I have no ****idal thoughts - i sincerely hope no one in this comment section does either.
As a teen who struggled with mental health issues in the 2000s, I used computers and video games a lot as an escape. I didn't have today's Internet back then, and I wasn't into multiplayer games, but it was still bad. I could've been one of these unfortunate teens; I seriously doubt I'd survive. I did get treatment later in college. While it wasn't as bad as this, it was still rough. I bumped into "bad apples" in the psych field outside of these camps that could do more harm than good, and educating my Filipino parents was (and still is) tough. But I'm gotten thru it and gotten better. And I now advocate for not just proper and accessible MH treatment but also MH education, which I think would resolve/prevent a lot of problems.
"You tired of parenting? Here, let a doctor do it instead! Surely that will work better!" What is happening is parents lacking common sense, falling prey to predators and paying for the privilege literally and metaphorically.
And here you can see the stark difference between actual military training and forced labor. This "militaristic" type of training only works if the people who are in it are doing it mostly out of their own will. If you look at those stories of navy seals who explain what they went through, yes it is semi abuse and yes they mentally torment you. However, they also give you the freedom to stop and go at any point in training. It's more of a filtering the ones who are not fit, while strengthening the ones that do get through. That plus the fact you're collectively working towards something and getting through with it, makes that much of a difference
As a Chinese, I'm glad somebody finally make video about this topic ,revealing this darkness 感谢你做这个视频，做的挺好的 Thank you for making this video, its pretty good
@@drebue7065 Well, as far as I know, he use violence to threat all the victims to not spread the truth, and he also disclaimer those illegal activities are all rumors.
I feel like Fern are very conscious of the subject matter that is driving the best response, which means we’re only ever going to get videos about true crime, torture and fraudsters moving forward
i cannot imagine the hatred that sparks and grows inside you, when you realize your partents send you to prison, because the cannot handle conflict like adults.
Chinese parents often think they are just doing the right thing for their children and are too stubborn to listen to them
I guess it's the delusion of people telling themselves they do it because they love their kids but in reality it's because they're lazy. I guess the same could be said about belting and spanking your kid vs rationalizing an incentive structure.
When the child act more like an adult then the actual adults
@@gold-818 I think it's really not laziness but simply them genuinely not knowing what to do.
Not everyone has the education to know how to raise kids, especially in a country like China that still has a lot of poor and uneducated people. So, they remember their own youth and parents instead and try to raise them as they were raised.
That's probably not going to work though, but the parents simply don't know any other way of raising children. And from all the headlines and news they will genuinely think that their child is in actual danger and they have to stop them. To them it must sound like their child goes to hang out with drug addicts or something like that.
So when the government then comes around with this program that has proven success (allegedly) and will make their child into a good citizen (allegedly), wouldn't they be bad parents if they didn't send their child?
Again, don't forget how severely limited the access to the outside world is for most Chinese, especially if they are from the generation that doesn't use any internet.
@@lubue5795agree, these parents tried way too hard for their children so that none of them realized what are the actual correct solutions for those problems.
Chinese education system is experiencing similar problems, the entrance to colleges is strictly guarded by a national exam for high school graduates, and the only way to get into a top university is to get a high score. The exam itself was aimed to test students’ abilities, not necessarily their abilities to *do the questions*. But unfortunately Chinese educators deem the exam is the only true goal, so they developed a system that forces students to spend 13 hours a day (middle-schoolers) and perhaps 15 hours in high school to learn answering exam questions.
That’s a deviation from the original purpose of the exams and it ended up in a negative strengthening cycle which only makes the students get more and more schoolwork over time.
I believe it is one of the most important problems for Chinese people, and they will solve it soon (at least in a decade).
Unfunny facts: Some students drop out of their windows due to extreme pressure. (literally, this is not funny, I don’t want to use that word)
“Why doesn’t my kid talk to me anymore?”
They will only realize what theyve done after its too late and most of the kids will forgive their parents ..
@@realbosstakeamost… that’s an optimistic assumption
@@drewdonaghy6944 Its china so they can likely be legally forced to talk to their parents. Even if they don't internally forgive them.
@@realbosstakea That is a VERY bold assumption. Every experience regarding abuse is very different depending on the person and family. Sometimes it's not even a grudge that people hold over their parents. They could understand and forgive. But even then they just don't want to associate or even contact with them because some wounds are just not able to heal as long as you are aware that you can meet that person and potentially hurt yourself again. Grudge is not the only thing that eats you alive. It's the constant collision of conscience between wanting to make peace with your past and wanting peace with your present.
@@realbosstakeanot entirely true. I was emotionally and physically abused. Not only did I stop all contact, but I'll NEVER forgive and forget.
imagine being taken away from your escape from reality, and instead of being put into reality youre put into a torture camp where reality is used against you, and then youre expected to somehow NOT want to escape reality anymore. shits crazy
reality is the tool of the powerful
commies arent the smartest
@@spawel1damn I’m gonna remember that quote for a while
deep,
i got the 420th like and im smoking a spliff.
@@spawel1 That's a good quote
Imagine your parents handing you this amazing device that allows you to completely zone out from your real life, where every day is a struggle, and then your parents believe you use this device too much so they send you to prison for using the device that they gave you too much.
yea ur absolutltka right
@@sen77777 absolutltka
i guess chinese parents dont like to fucking take responsibility of what they do
Eh I mean there still must be a balance, have you seen what happens to people who play for 6+ hours a day? Some of those people are actually sick
@@gamechip06 i play for around 12 hours a day
'Anti Internet'
'One shower a week'
In the west we would call that a contradiction.
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@@EEEEEEEE I guess so?
nice name lol
In the west we call that a smash player
@@RMONEY2555nah that's a redditor
Traditional parents who typically call their children rebellious almost always view their children as a robot with a flaw, rather than as a human being.
They always enforce discipline so they can get a specific type of child and so they can get the pre-conceived responses they want and they use all that to inform themselves on who the child is.
They’ll enforce a programmed set of desirable responses that they wanna see out of their child and anything unexpected or not in the responses makes them condemn the child, even if the response was a fundamentally good one, they will condemn them because it wasn’t the programmed one. It wasn’t the one they wanted and they do this to even extremes. Let’s say, for instance, a child wanted to be a police officer, but their parents predestined them to be doctors. For simply having an interest in being a police officer instead, they’ll likely reinforce behaviors that lead to being a doctor and condemn behaviors that even remind them of a police officer and they’ll do this for the rest of your life without any sincere attempt to empathetic understand, communicate, or hold anything other than an egocentric bias.
Sounds like my parents growing up. They weren't too happy about me going for art since I was "the smart one" and my brother could only be "the artist"
were you hurt growing up
I am living through this, currently. Why can people be so psychologically stubborn? Why? Most people, upon reaction, will only say one or two things. And they forget. So easy do we forget.
We all shut up and overlook everything. No one cares. No one's brave enough to do anything about anything and it results in never-ending pain for all.
I am sure I have PTSD by now. I am not diagnosed, but I keep remembering. I haven't forgetten what has happened to me, even if what has happened is a far cry from what is shown in this video. I haven't forgetten what happened to others. And I hope I will never forget.
As a Chinese, I really don’t understand why many parents think that success must be linked to suffering, so they create suffering even if there is no suffering, and the more suffering there is, the better the outcome will be. However, they never think about whether suffering is really linked to success and maturity.
I believe it comes from their own experience of suffering. They suffered at the hands of their own parents and of their times; yet in the end they turned out okay and perhaps even became successful in life. They then rationalise their trauma through the logic that "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger," so they believe that suffering is necessary for self-growth and success. These parents then want to replicate the conditions of their own success with their children, after all, being successful in life is universally good.
"A little childhood trauma builds character."
-Eddy
Mhm
I'm half Chinese (that side's lived in Taiwan for several generations), and I've seen that. Although I also think it's the Chinese government's example with the Uighur concentration camps, and more recently how their buddies in the Kremlin are treating Russia's minorities. Except worse, because it's parent-child rather than aspirations towards the empires of yore.
The Chinese government is communist; they hold similar if not the exact same beliefs the Soviet Union once did about hard work and effort.
As a chinese person, i told my mom if she would send me to one of those places and she broke down in tears thinking about it. These programs are truly fucked up and should be stopped worldwide.
Your white boy 😅😅😅😅
I'm happy for you that you have a decent mother, sad that so many others don't.
These facilities are in *China*, they aren’t worldwide.
@@alexstewart4762 they probably exist in other strict countries.
@@alexstewart4762 lol, did you even watch the video? The narrator literally called out the troubled teen industry in the US. Pay attention before trying to act smart.
Crazy how suicide has to be censored but murder doesn’t
From what I understand is that it can be a trigger word for ppl with suicide ideation sensitivity.
"Murder" on the other word well I don't think a lot of ppl out there will get overwhelmed by an urge to go on a rampage just by hearing it.
But it might not be the case I'm no expert.
Meanwhile some countries have assisted su!c!de legalized
Because there is another meaning for the word “murder” which doesnt need to be censored
@@timebladeare you ok ? Just remember your life is worth so much more than you know. You are special. You are loved and blessed by God. Get better soon.
@@bagfruit123 you mean like crows
I can't even blame the kid who let his mother starve to death after being sent to one of those camps. How could someone ever trust their parents again after such a breach of trust?
"Breach of trust" is quite the understatement in all honesty.
Pretty sure that she (child) had the right idea.
The phrase "with friends like these, who needs enemies?" comes to mind, though, there isn't really any "enemies" equivalent for "parents". If parents are to provide safety and stability for their child, then, well, this mother was providing the diametric opposite, and... with her out of the way, the kid was probably better off.
Right?
@wowzersfyi*his
@@Personificationedwatch the video again it was a girl
Your parents send you to military school because you want to drum instead of be a doctor? Jesus christ
And people don't understand why china has no cultural export.
@@caam0000Like seriously guys how are Japan and America beating China at their own game? How is it possible that Japan made a better Romance of the Three Kingdoms retelling than whatever China put out, or how America made a better kungfu movie than anything from China (not counting Hong Kong, but their heyday was during the pre-CCP era which only proves my point)?
@@Moonstone-Redux despite the “internet addiction” stigma China actually does have some eSports teams… and, surprise, they’re constantly losing to Japanese teams
@@caam0000only ameorca does have clutral exports
@@CantTellYouAnd the “Chinese” teams are for some reason, mostly people from Korea
i'm chinese, and i was born in china, and after a few years my parents decided to move me to Australia because they didn't like the way the teachers were treating their students. They had a metal rod and they would whip misbehaving students with it and often shout and humiliate students. after long years stay at Australia, i went back to china for a holiday, and they decided to put me into the schools at china again for a few months. my mental health dropped so low that they got worried that i was gonna get a bit suicidal so they never put me back into Chinese schools again after that holiday. now just imagine what the camps are like.
wait a sec, sorry I don't know exactly but how can you just move out of China? I thought that you can't just move out of the country permanently
@@stanisawlewandowski2148 not permanently, i have a visa and I don’t count as local Australian citizen even tho I’m perm stay at Australia even if it against the laws but who th gives a piece of poo
@@KorGiiYt ooo ok
@@KorGiiYt nobody cares about it you can stay your whole this earth belongs to God
I was also in China for school at one point, yet I never had any problems. Guess it’s not the same all around
After treatment like this, your child is no longer your "child." You've turned them into a robot.
@Q2FwaXRhbGlzbSBiYWQu right
Well fk youre right
someone is angry at their dad
@@sbubwoofer commie propaganda bot detected
I was sent to Phillips Exeter Academy for a high school summer training program. I had a lesson with Juilliard who told me, after hearing a piece of Bartok, to be a robot. I find your comment amusing because these institutions are the highest level of education available on the East Coast of the United States. Maybe they were torture camps and I didn't notice. Now I'm thinking more about it. I did leave because it was too hot.
I'm a Chinese kid who was put in a place like this when I was 10. After I was allowed to leave, I had trouble adapting back to society for YEARS. Then, everyone in the outside world, (who never experienced trauma) saw that I behaved autistic and bullied the crap out of me...
There is no sympathy in this cruel world.
父母生了就不想管，就会送你这地方。这种学校里面的都是这样的。所谓的戒网瘾，其实很多时候就是父母认为自己的投资失败了不想管了，看了生厌又有传统的进学校总比进社会好思想就会送进去。不知道这只是批着学校外皮的集中营而已。
Man... I hope you're living at least ok now. That's horrible.
@@blagovest3239 Well, I'm now 15 and I spend like 22 hours a day in my bedroom and I only talk to people online now. I hope I can go to college and do whatever I want after that. And yeah that does mean the attempt to make me quit the internet failed cause it's my only way to talk to people now.
@@XSillyGooberX I'm American. I'm also deaf too. I communicate to people in the outside world online instead of in the real world. I was not in the same situation as you, but at 10, I nearly did something that would have reversed my life but I changed somehow. Whatever trust I had in people, especially those who exhibit terrible personalities or are manipulative, I often reject and avoid. Being friends with them are a time waster.
I hope you get better man. I'm much older than you and have lived pretty much alone past my 30s. Good luck in whatever you do when it comes to college and don't give up.
@@nosywendigo592 Thanks, I will remember this! I hope you have a good life as well.
They call it an addiction just because they don’t like it, by that logic surely you could call anything an addiction, “grid mindset addiction” “going to work addiction” “studying and getting good grades addiction”
That's the thing... They would rather you get addicted to studying and working than playing games because at least it would "do you good"
My parents would rather see me exhausted from studying, get nosebleed because of stress rather than see me play games because:
Studying> top grades> get good college/university> get rich> would be thankful for parents> repay parents for everything> retire and have a good life
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NO WAY I HAVE AN EATING AND BREATHING ADDICTION???
China is a communist country. They don't believe in freedom. The government tells you how to live your life. If you disagree then they put you in a labor camp. Just a gulag by another name. Same in every communist country. I don't concern myself with the hell that happens in China because there is nothing we can do about it. My worry is the people who want to bring that kind of system to America. Communist sympathies are growing among young people but they have no idea what they are getting themselves into. American far leftists need to be educated about what will happen if communism takes root in America.
No, the internet can definitely be an addiction. Doesn't mean they are going about curing it the right way tho
THEY SENT FUCKING SIX YEAR OLDS TO THESE PLACES???
在中国，这类事情绝对习以为常。
@@4_Helcurt_4Same thing happens in the west too. They’re just call wilderness camps and trouble kids/teens programs here.
It is their parents that made the decision for them...sadly
According to Murican YT propaganda... they butcher kids in the US ('gender change') but always more concerned about imaginary 'crimes' in China, Russia, NK, Iran, Venezuela and everyone else not serving the Empire.
@@fruit4423holy 谢😢
I know somebody who was sent to one of those troubled youth camps here in the US. Place called Diamond Ranch Academy, they were tossed into simulated homelessness and forced to sit in the grueling desert sun with no water. They suffered many atrocities all the while their website showed green pastures, horse riding and more. When their parents came to visit they were mortified and thankfully pulled them out despite the camp pushing against it.
Many people who were sent there wound up commiting suicide later in life and the Ranch itself has recently shut down after several kids have died due to neglect/abuse. There are many more places like that in the US however and they are truly some of the most vile and disgusting places on the planet! Torturing and absuing troubled youth in need of help for profit. does it get any more deplorable than that.
It does, when organized and funded by government like in China and most likely NK too. God forbid if tyrannic regime in my country survives long enough to establish something similar.
The movie holes?
And there they are chinese nationalists . This is projection and nothing will change in your country , when you don't recognise this your country is doomed.
Similar thing happens in america with gay conversion camps, and they're still legal in many states.
Yeah but it's better for views to do propaganda against China than the US. For anyone actually informed, they realize both countries are more similar than the opposite.
When I was 12 and it was summer break, one of my friend's mom suggested me to train in one of those "Camps" because I plays a lot of games back then. I remember that my parents firmly disagreed with the deal, and eventually friend's mom gave up. After the summer break, I saw my friend a lot less, and he talked a lot less. I still doesn't know what happened to him during his stay at that place, but he changed so much and left my friend group.
man i hope he's okay
Me too @@rikimura_rishi
thats actually insane knowing that someone you know experienced this
我不知道该不该恭喜你
@@fruit4423bro are you using an vpn ?
As a chinese, this shit is actually true. YangYongXing (which is the organizer for the electroshock torture camp) is still not being captured or sued and was living normally for the rest of his lives, and didn't face like any consequences. Which i think its really fucked up; This is scary because, still in china, there are these teen camps that captured those teens without their own will. Some of the organizer pretend their the "military" or "cops" and capture the teens offline through brutal force. And many teens are being electroshocked and faced inhumane torture, and are locked up like in prisons. There are many people actually trying to report these things to the cops, but sometimes its just effortless work. I really think this shit shouldn't occur in my country, which i'm really sad of it (sorry if this is confusing; my english is kinda bad, i did my best :( )
your English is good
Don't worry, your English is totally fine. Only the use of a ; is odd since it's extremely rare that somebody, especially on the internet, uses that.
Ur english is great bro trust me everything was crystal clear
Your english is good mate. Don't pressure yourself. Contempt culture sucks in general. What should gain you respect, is how good you treat others, not how bad you let others treat you. The best way to help someone is the way you are both comfortable with, not the way it is required by anyone else. Don't follow pride, follow what you think and feel is good.
you guys didn't think my reply was enough?
Some people just shouldnt be parents
Every child deserves a parent. Not every parent deserves a child.
Yeah. I wouldn’t trust people like these “loving” parents from this video to care for a houseplant, let alone a child.
It’s so sad that a bilibili content creator and his team who dedicated their time and effort on debunking these schools had come out to say that a lot of his friends were sent extreme death threats from the school (like funeral equipment to their doorstep) and some even took their own lives. This deserves to be spoken up about.
who is it? what's the name of ghe creator?
@@JackyEverlast i doubt anything on the web can FULLY go right? what about the way back machine? theres gotta be some tool
@@vikibg-wt2to welcome to chinese firewall!!
@@vikibg-wt2to Ha. You should do some research into the Chinese Internet. The CCP has complete authority over the entire internet. All social media platforms require their users to submit their real names and identification as proof to make an account. Anything that can be even remotely be construed as anti CCP no matter how small or insignificant is immediately shut down and wiped from the internet, and the person who posted it can expect a knock on the door from CCP goons. Often times leading to them being disappeared for ever.
@@theroyalwhale i hate the firewall because it's not even good at being a firewall. Anyone who wants information gets information, so the only reason it exists is to prey on the poorer/less technologically inclined people who don't use or even know what a VPN is.
These types of "behavioral schools" for "troubled" kids also exist in the U.S., kidnapping/abuse and all. I'll never understand the reasoning behind sending your kid to a place like this no matter what they do. I feel like it's just people refusing to admit they're not good parents.
And your feeling is correct. The parents can't handle conflict with their children or they don't like that their children are independent and don't want to be brainwashed into their parents believes.
This happens in Utah, USA too.
For anyone curious, I cannot recommend Joe vs. Elan (elan. school)enough. It’s a comic by a former „inmate“ at one of those „wilderness schools“ and it’s horrifying
There are behaviour schools and there a torture camps. There is a big gap
Not same
Making a whole videogame to explain the horrible experience young people suffered just because they played videogames is so great
"videogame addiction" was just the excuse, as "troubled teen" is the excuse in the West.
@@qq84yeah I was in a family too broke for the wilderness therapy, so I was just shuffled from psych ward to psych ward. I was often starved or locked into rooms screaming for mercy. I was forced to take medications I was allergic too not once, but twice. when I denied them they just injected it. Horrid.
@@matthewfranklin2137 oh man I hope you're better now
I studied piano with Juilliard as a teenager and then entered a torture environment later on that had a keyboard in the "community room." I was playing Schumann's First Loss, which might be the saddest piece of piano music ever written. Suddenly, I was charged at by a gigantic young male who had a video game fixation. He ran directly at me (I am very small) and nearly knocked me off the piano bench, throwing me into the wall. Then he stopped and informed me that I "must stop playing" because he had to play video games. He required that the entire room be empty and refused to share space with anyone, insisting that he owned the entire art/exercise/music/movie room. It snowballed and was an absolute nightmare.
i think the issue with gaming addiction in china isnt that kids nowadays are just that lazy or that games are THAT addicting (although they can certainly suck you in) but its that these kids these PEOPLE are so incredibly stressed by the outside world in a way that they themselves might not even recognize, that the fun escapism that games are meant to provide basically becomes a heaven for them. the fact that their standard for whether someone is addicted to games is that they prefer games over studying, immediately demonizing computers and computer games, without even trying to understand the person or the technology is very telling of how that society thinks. addictions are not just physical, they are also emotional. they use games to help themselves feel better, but because the problem is still there and never fixed, they can only want more and more of what is pleasing, which is why they get addicted to games the same way someone who's very stressed might get addicted to drugs, tobacco/nicotine, or alcohol. the problem is not games or the children. the problem is a society that is expecting more and more, wanting these people to be better than perfect and for them to act like robots. they're now so desperate to escape those expectations that the emotional pleasure games give them are comparable to the pleasure you feel from taking actual drugs.
Exactly. It's the same like the drug epidemics in the west. Instead of fighting the reason why people abuse drugs in the first place they just fight the drugs. That's like ignoring a broken leg and only swallowing painkillers instead of taking care of the broken leg.
This makes me assume that it's not really about health but submission. To create obedient worker drones that serve the government's interest, even if the worker drones die in the process.
@@laaaliiiluuu i genuinely dont think its a conspiracy like that, but i certainly do think that the parents just have absolutely NO clue what is actually wrong since there is so much misinformation that is pushed by nearly all other adults, government and professionals included. parents want their kid to be healthy, but fail to realize that the real issue is not a mysterious hypnotizing computer game, but the horrific conditions of stress that these children are subject to. and they think this because they're constantly engrossed in the idea that studying harder is ALWAYS good, so unless something big happens to truly open their eyes, they refuse to think of the possibility that the insane academic pressure is the real issue. the obsession with academics is a deep rooted cultural and historical thing too, so i can understand why this would be the case, and so i hope that chinese society can open their minds to a deeper understanding of our problems soon, and not let this kind of thing haunt us.
@@yosdeiselpetrol9496 I wished I was as optimistic as you are about the motivations of those who allow these things to happen, haha.
@@yosdeiselpetrol9496the question than becomes WHY is the misinformation spread in the first place and why did it become
so popular? money or control imo
@@delta-1 nope! or well, its not that simple at least. imo, the misinformation isnt spread maliciously, at least not in the vast majority of cases. however, people do try to capitalize off of the issue, BUT this is often because they themselves are also misinformed people who truly believe in that kind of stuff, so much that they get very cruel with their methods of "fixing" these children. the misinformation issue is very serious in east asia, likely because iirc this technology comes from the west, and bc people don't understand it and also don't want to take the westerns' word for some things (much of the older generations think westerners are stupid, etc and thats why they think how they do) they instead treat this tech and the reactions to it with some level of paranoia. bc they don't think anything can be wrong with their own society (cognitive bias), they instead assume that stuff like video games are some sort of horrible "magical drug" that has ruined their children and even many adults when really it IS the societal norms that are at fault here.
As someone who probably actually has an internet addiction, it enrages me that the problem was rightfully recognized so early in China, yet that they proceeded with the worst way possible of dealing with it
There is a well codified process on diagnosing issues so that they don't pop up again, but too often people don't follow up on it either because it takes up too much work or it would lead to the discovery of some very uncomfortable truths that might end up implicating the one who asked. It's used a lot in manufacturing because failure to do so means very expensive cleanup and repair bills for the company. Yet in society, people tend to not realise what the costs of not regularly implementing root cause analysis are.
Internet addiction at its base, is but a symptom of larger societal and psychological problems that need to be addressed before the symptom of Internet addiction goes away, just like any other kind of addiction. But in the context of Chinese society, trying to get down to the root causes would have you run into some of the hardest questions that people, especially politicians, would be embarrassed to have asked of them, so it is often not done.
It's not the addiction they care about, it's submission.
I think Chinese people consider internet addiction something much lighter than what American parents say internet addiction is. Addiction is not something that's easy to define precisely. Same may think addiction starts at 3 hours a week while others say it's 10 hours a day. Considering the insane amount of strictness of asian parents those teens are not in danger of the internet probably. Or to put it in other words doing anything but studying is dangerous there, internet is just one activity that some of them can escape with from the harsh long hours of constant concentration.
@@Moonstone-Reduxtruths or questions such as what? Please enlighten us.
@@Kepitano I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess stuff like human rights abuses like the right to privacy, freedom of expression/information, freedom of religion, right to protest against the state, non-existent health and safety regulations, worker's rights, institutionalised corruption, mass censorship/propaganda, wealth inequality, housing crisis, population crisis (eg one child policy; gender gap), economic uncertainty, tofu dreg construction 😅
Here before the CCP restricts the video
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too late -10,000 Credit score 🇨🇳
Same...
Gotta play it on 2x speed
shin chan CHONG shasheshusha A , -10,000,000,000 social credits
The fact a family can send their 30+ year old family member there is insane
Or a 6 year old, wtf.
yeah, like how is that even remotely legal i know its China, but still, can a family really send there 30 year old Onkel to de facto prison for "internet addiction" without his consent for months? deprivation of liberty without a court sentence or even a trial. dystopian
It is worth mentioning that this kind of facility is in completely different states in different regions of China. I live in Beijing, and none of my classmates have ever experienced this kind of thing. However, in less developed cities, you can even see advertisements and advertisements for "Internet addiction treatment agencies" on the streets. In addition, this video has been translated and uploaded to Chinese video websites, and the comments on both sides are surprisingly consistent this time🤣
holy, I never know the first camp was established in Beijing😰
This video (and this entire channel) is cringe CIA propaganda.
@@bdleo300 and june 4 1989 never happened
@@bdleo300 how
@@stephanideleon7215because the dude you just replied to is being paid to flap their lips about bullshit, that's how lol
Either that or actual bot, though they can feel free to prove the bot allegations wrong.
As a citizen of an Asian country, I can confirm that education is very very competitive in most countries of Asia. Most Asian parents think that engineer or doctor is the only future for their child. If someone wants to do some business or online things, it is mostly considered failure by Asian parents.
This kind of competitive education has destroyed many child's young ages and they are now just nothing but some heartless robot.
And the suicide rates are sky high and life satisfaction is Abysmal. Yet the brain dead government and parents blame videos games instead of a cancerous work culture.
Here in America, they’re already starting with this doctor and engineer bullshit because its a profession on demand.
steven he be like : S T O O B I D
@@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky the level of pressure is different. Not to mention american colleges focus less on education and more on... emotional stuff.
@@lotus_flower2001 Asian cultures love the illusion of productivity.
for a 16 year old girl to let their own mother starve to death after being sent to one of those camps is insane, if the girl was that emotionally scarred and abused to do that to her own mother then that just shows how abusive these camps are. and the fact this is supposed to cure “internet addiction” is off limits when they literally torture kids and even adults to the point where they literally are scarred for life and defeats the purpose of curing anything when it makes more problems.
Conclusion; these “rehabilitation” camps are just glorified prisons you get sent to for playing games for a bit too long, oh and i forgot to mention they also mentally and physically abuse you for months on end for no reason when just prison alone is already enough to traumatize any kid for life, let alone this dystopian bullshit they employ to these poor kids.
thats kinda what the video said
@@Aspencio yea i just wanted to break it down
It's ALWAYS the rehabilitation camps, always adults deciding over what's good for kids, sending them to prison for a week, or one of these camps
@@Thrustql may god save these kids 💔
I’m so happy I don’t live in china. The closest experience I have to this has been spending a month in the psych ward which that alone traumatized me for life and this is in America. With fascism and authoritarianism on the rise in this country, I really hope the USA doesn’t go down the same path as China. The trauma they’re experiencing is unbelievable and I’m so grateful that I live here for now.
This is almost IDENTICAL to The Elan School in Maine, USA.
Actually insane it continued for so many decades with parents paying huge fees for the torture of their own kids.
i was thinking about that similarity too
there are still many operating to this day. The "troubled teen" industry shouldn't be legal anywhere.
THIS DUDES VOICE IS LAME NEED TO USE OTHER GIY
When you let religion run free and 'respect it', you can get thousands to be okay with all kinds of horrific stuff.
@@JamesR624 Neither CCP camps or Élan School were even slightly religious in any way. They both suppressed religious expression. Sounds like you agree with them.
We had this in Britain when I was young. They were called borstals. The men in charge were often very violent and engaged in sexual abuse and a lot of physical abuse. They treated you like an animal and the punishments were intended to degrade and frighten you
i swear if the team at fern are hired and asked to make a series at Netflix i wouldn't even be surprised because of the quality of their vids
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@Alcatroz_officail You might not know this, but the people behind fern already did something similiar.
Only with their german channel "Simplicissimus" in german TV (ARD) with a documentary about russia, called "Putin's Bären" / "Putin's bears".
Sadly it's only in german, as far as I know.
@@Colorado0091 i hope that gets translated into english in the future
whose gonna tell you people in netflix are communists , they have very heavy left leaning tinking sytem so anything that hurts the reputaion of communists is improable
these animations are so good i feel like im watching a netflix doco
yess! and the narration adds so much to it!
Its even better than netflix cause he doesnt take a story that can be explained in 20 mins and split it into 8 needlessy long episode that have no pace and feel boring after half an hour like netflix does. This is solid straight to the point, loving it
Bro is glazing this hard? 😂
boy you gots to be kidding, this looks like it's made by ai 😂
yeah
I'm Chinese and used to live in China. I wanna add one more side note to this whole thing, the most infamous "doctor"/facility owner is Yang Yongxin, he is also the original inspiration for Dead By Daylight's Killer "Doctor" as thousands of gamers in China wanted to have him forever remembered as a killer. For people who are interested in what he did you should google it, but I believe most of the detailed context will be in Chinese results, still, even just by scratching the surface with limited English results, you'll get a good idea on how fucked up it is.
@@UnaliverOfChildren LMAO what a sad little man you are
He is the Thor…he controls thunder and electricity 😂
电磁步兵杨永信是吧😂
You are right
Thank you
I was wondering what type of torture methods the doctor was using in room 13. Electoshock therapy definitely caught me off guard. Then to hear that it was done for minutes with no anesthesia really got me. Those poor kids that had to go through that. Electroshock therapy can be known to leave the patient with serious side effects in some cases. One of the side effects is memory loss, which is kinda ironic. You worry about your kid spending too much time on the computer and not studying. To then send him to a juvenile detention center (what they really are) where they can end up with brain damage, which could permanently affect their learning and memory. Fear really makes you do illogical things.
12:54 Being sent to a "correction camp" at the age of 6 by your own parents is madness.
And then these parents will wonder why their children don’t even want to talk to them and care for them when they’re old.
Usa isn't innocent too after researching they've done as bad sometimes even worse and are still doing bad things
They probably have retirement camps too
Almost as much as changing your gender/removing genitals at the age of 6.... but I guess Murican propaganda videos are more concerned about China.
In fact,the youngest being sent there were at the age of 4 or 5,the oldest can be over 45
At this point your production quality is higher than Netflix
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yup dis true
That's not a compliment though 😅
Netflix sucks
@@Remigratorlol ma man roasted netflix in a single sentence
Something similar happened to me in Mexico when I was a teenager. I used to utilize the computer day and night and not go out very much, my older sister who was worried convinced my parents to take me to a similar place, there were mainly drug addict, rape victims, and me. It was like psychological torture camp with sprinkles of religion, very traumatic.
What was your parents and sisters reaction after being sent to that hellhole?
That sounds like my experience at the psych ward
Dude…
Are you okay?
@@Bloxfruitsistrashlmaocope fr like it's so common to the point where you'd find ppl on the internet who've experienced it. i hate it. so much.
If my parents pulled that shit they'd find themselves in a nursing home real quick.
I'm from Goa, my case was a bit different. My grades were fine and all and there were no issues at school. It was just that my parents felt it was their right to control every aspect of my life and I did not comply. They initially sent me to a psychiatrist to see if anything was wrong and when they did not get the results they wanted they took matters in their own. It was mental torture at first, began with public belittling, insulting beating with almost anything they could get their hands on especially metal rods. When this didn't work, they being the religious nuts that they were put me through more than 3 hours of exorcism, where they bound me to a bed and had those catholic priests carry out their crap. After this they even tried hypnotherapy. I survived through all this torture, but was transferred to boarding school in another state where they made sure to have full control of my life without my knowledge. After finding out, I made a vow that I would never forgive them even if they were dying in front of me. Later I managed to escape that hellhole by getting accepted in the UK to complete my masters.
Do you plan to go back there after you graduate?
I have been to one of these boot camps. I lived in China 10-15 years ago and was taken to one as part of a group outreach/volunteer thing. It was the middle of winter and they had no heat at all in any of the rooms other than a very small coal burning stove in the office for staff only. This was on purpose - either to save money or torture the kids, probably both. They had no hot water and in fact only had running water a few hours a day. They had to spend long hours standing or running in the courtyard - and I truly mean _hours._ If one kid got in trouble they all were punished in this way. Kids would sometimes escape but it was on a mountain in a remote area so they'd always be caught and brought back before they got anywhere. Aside from punishment, the rest of their time was spent in the classroom; they got no free time at all. And this was all because they were supposedly addicted to the internet.
Some of the other foreigners in the group I was with decided to volunteer weekly to teach the kids English, reasoning that they were the only little bright spot in the poor kids' week, at least they could try to bring a little bit of happiness to them. I, however, refused. I was furious that the group even organized the trip. That trip was basically used as a photo opportunity for the owner to get good press. And I felt like between that trip and the others going regularly, the owner would use that as a big selling point to parents. At that time and in that area of China having actual Americans, Brits, Australians, etc. teaching at your school was very prestigious. So while they might be bringing a little bit of happiness to the kids, in the long run they were enabling the school to continue to exist and attract more parents to send their kids there. I don't think I'd ever been so furious as I was on that trip, seeing the conditions the kids had to live in and knowing my presence was just going to help the owner torture more kids.
Unfortunately, you get it wrong. What you attended was a high school "军训 military training" that the Chinese government used as a nominal substitute for military service. Junior high school, senior high school and university students are required to undergo military training for one month when they just enter school.
The leader of the school you taught at may have had a problem in his mind when he invited a group of foreigners to observe military training with the connotation of national defense education. In those days, many people liked to show "international" their organization are by just adding some random foreigners in their photos.
@@williamwan3712 Yeah, no. They were specifically there because they were "addicted" to the internet or video games. Many of them had been there for months/years, they were of various ages, they did not do any military trainings or wear any military uniforms, many of them had been tricked or basically kidnapped and brought there. I have also seen the military training students go through and this wasn't that. Try not to speak about something you honestly have no clue about - it really speaks volumes about your intelligence, but unfortunately not in a good way.
This is also an extended, and unintended, consequence of the infamous One Child Policy. When your only kid just wants to have fun, the parents often panic, because literally their ONLY lifeline to financially support the family and continue the family into the future is NOT working. Compounding this issue is the GaoKao, the university entrance exam that literally determines your entire future. One shot. No redos. Finally, these parents are from the generation that grew up through the Cultural Revolution, which was a brutal 10 year period where all societal trust was shattered, leaving the adults of today with terrible emotional regulation, trauma, and a sad willingness to want to use violence to enforce control over what they have. Put these three things together, and you have an entire society that runs on extreme anxiety and low empathy. I don’t get along with my parents most of the time, but I’m still grateful we left China all those decades ago so that I can build a less stressful future for my family in the West.
Kudos to your parents bro
This comment just showed me how clueless I am about the modern history and culture of China and how wrong I was to hold the competitiveness of Chinese society to such a high standard. Thank you bro
The One Child Policy. The gift that keeps on giving.
@@konstantinosdimitropoulos3533 That's kinda the problem. We don't actually learn about modern society, and we venerate shitty behaviour that gives results on paper. In Canada, we're about 3 steps away from this with our education system, and yet stupid rednecks champion for following in China and Japan's footsteps. They do this because they are clueless about the bigger picture. We complain about how we're losing to China and Japan, and how we need harsher schools with higher math scores instead of all this pussy woke stuff and feelings, yet completely ignore that China and Japan are imploding on every level because of this same behaviour.
Honestly, after the entire video, i couldn't find it in me to lend sympathy to the mother that was starved by her own daughter
Honestly, same
+1
Me neither. She should have known that her child is going to hate her.
I just imagine the daughter doing giant mukbangs in front of her mother.
@@ViewOf lol she got delicious smelling meats hanging all around the mom & plays dissonant piano all day long singing “mommy would u like some sausage”
My best friend (now adopted sister) got sent off to a extreme religious school for "Soul Therapy" for questioning their families religion by asking the harder questions in the bible, thats was it. It was not a boarding school like her parents told her, it was a compound in a different state. But luckily it was escapable one but if she left she would be excommunicated instantly. She had managed to hide the phone she had in secret, she had it for a long time then as the situation with her church was turning sour long ago an this cellphone was her lifeline. We had planned once her brother turned 18 we were going to get them both but then this happened an tossed a wrench into things but we still got her brother later on. The evil things she an her brother went through they still struggle telling us to this day. The things they went through was insanely abusive and that's before she ever got tossed in the torture school. But they are with us and actually thriving an I am so grateful to have them as family.
Whewie.. All why do parents of my religion have to be so messed up? If you dont know, you dont know. They were being very pissy. :/
Words can't describe how disgusting and horrifying these camps are, I feel so bad for every one of the victims subjected to them. Even for the genuinely internet-addicted people, they deserve proper medical care, not whatever this nonsense is.
The way "Duck" described the prison camp, isn't that just China? I mean the whole country is like a gigantic prison
Yes. If they really have an addiction they need to talk to a kind and understanding therapist, these camps are just abuse.
We have these places in the USA, or at least we used to. I went to one.
@@万恶共匪毒害中华china is a very scary country
Therapist visits were the only positive he said, the rest was just unusual punishment
When he said 'He used vpn to watch drumming tutorials..." I was sure there is an advert coming, so happy I was wrong...
We got ptsd from ad injections
@@Thegoldenaerobar2 Only to get an ad a few minutes later xD
You should keep seeing and watching those ads everywhere if you're stupid enough NOT to use Firefox + Ublock.
Yeah we got an ad eventually, but not about something we were expecting...
that's what you're concerned about?
Fern -12,000 Credit Score
The CCP already has operatives on the way. Gosh I wish that could 100% be a joke :(
@@se_008social credit score
it's social credit
@@se_008 he is referring to the alleged credit score given by ccp
The higher is ur score the higher chances of u being safe
Bruh.. 😆😆😆
Imagine the amount of betrayal feeling the kid felt. Betrayal from your loved parents is hardest thing to bring in life, and very hard to forgive.
Had anybody else ever felt in their youth that their parents would rather blame everything else than themselves?
"Get off your phone, go out, do something productive" - They punish kid's desires, yet rarely provide alternatives appealing enough to interest their child.
"Don't touch that egg, you'll break it" - Kill the curiosity, to save something cheap and abundant instead of encouraging the kids to experiment.
This goes on and on. Then comes the school and something that should have been fun is turned into a stressful, life-sucking competition. "do well or else..."
Or in my case never let me outside yet complained I was overweight antisocial and had no friends outside of school
Never let me have a school sport or club and I never stayed for detention because I wasn’t allowed so I’d have marks on my record for skipping detention despite not having permission
Then when I’m an adult I’m chastised for having “poor social skills” even though he’s the ONLY person who has an issue with it, and tells me I should’ve stayed in the autistic speech class even though I never had autism and they taught barebones speech excersizes that made me feel like a kindergartener rather than a high schooler.
Why do you need to break an egg for yourself to understand that it will break? Do you need to go to space yourself to believe it exists? Do you need to create an engine yourself to know it will power a vehicle? Do need to drown to understand that you cannot breathe underwater?
Almost everything you know is second-hand. Why highlight this random specific thing?
@@KonglomeratYT
Because if you have a kid that's a couple years old, you want them to experiment, touch things, see things, feel them, learn how they work, get interested.
Yet people would rather tell their kids "don't touch it or it will break" rather than give them the said egg and guide them through something like boiling it and making a sandwich. They would rather save a few damn cents like they're made of gold than support the curiosity of their children. That's how you end up with a janitor dissinterested in life, rather than an architect, an artist, a scientist or literally anything productive.
On the side note - You probably haven't broken enough of them since you clearly missunderstood what I was saying.
@@KonglomeratYT UNGA BUNGA I KNOW EGG BREAK
YOU NO EGG BREAKS
@@KonglomeratYTThe alternative is to believe everything you read. I used to want to dismantle old tech to look at it and was told i couldnt due to the mess it would make.
It can be good to satisfy curiosity for learning and can foster development of new hobbies
Unfortunately, it really happened to me half a year ago, but it destroyed everything and caused me immense pain. I reported it to the police while I was in the internet addiction treatment school, but they chose to ignore it. After I got out of the school, I also reported the school to the police, but they still chose to ignore it and threatened to detain me, forcing me to delete the videos I took of the school and warning me not to post them online. When I needed help, the Chinese government chose to ignore it and prevented me from revealing the truth. I firmly believe that such a government will eventually perish.
I hope you are recovering from it. it must have been a terrible experience
Me too. I was also in a situation like this. It's good to know that we are not alone.
@@XSillyGooberX I use to get woke up in 10 am in those schools
I am sorry it happened to you, How are you now? Were you able to cope up?
I'm really interessted where China will be in 10-20 years when all these traumatized children have become adults and are the ones deciding how things should be.
there are enough people in the country who havent gone to these camps that these troubled adults could easily just be forgotten by society. china is big enough that ccp elites who run the gov won't be affected at all and there will still be more than enough people who haven't had their lives destroyed in the camps to be picked to become lower party members who carry out the orders and rise through the ranks
Itll probably still suck because the CCP has that 1984 shit going on.
they will join army.
Nah, they could only decide nothing
These kids most likely will not get to decide on anything. There's always rich second gens that get political powers through nepotism. Possibilities are almost completely closed down on regular people.
Bro how the hell is this allowed to be legal? Why do people think to raise a child you must be violent towards them, this is a whole other level. I'm glad fern managed to make this video, this is such a traumatizing thing to go through. These parents are just continuing this chain of suffering and turning their children into heartless robots.
It’s china human rights don’t exist over there at least not how we know them
Its China thats probably just slightly worse than the standard chinese education
I just couldn't imagine being sent off to torture by your own parents. The ones who are supposed to love you, shelter you, and nurture you. That stinging feeling of betrayal is what I believe would hurt even more than the torture itself.
The unending feeling of the world being inherently unsafe is worse than either of them, especially when you're surrounded by people who insist the world is good.
im a survivor of one, there are many in the US that operate unimpeded, i still struggle to form connections with people, and i experience ptsd symptoms similar to what youd see in a veteran from Iraq or Afghanistan,
complete mood shift on the drop of a dime, insomnia, flashes of memory that completely envelope your mind till you either unalive yourself or eventually fall asleep from exaughstion .
mine was park ridge valley, chattanooga . i was raped , beaten, isolated, druged and starved.
thankfully everyone involved was fired and some were charged with child abuse but many are free on the streets
It’s a bit of a different culture in China. One that values conformity and collective responsibility and such
@@dylans0630 It happens in the US too.
That's why if I was in China (or rather grew up In china) I would immigrate to america the moment I turn 18
Let your kid have passions, goddamn.
we're doomed!! DOOOOMED!!!!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thousands of children are in programs like this in the US as we speak. There are frequent deaths and claims of abuse, yet somehow they're allowed to legally operate with little to no oversight from the state. Parents are lied to, often not allowed to communicate with their children for months at a time, and many children come out permanently traumatized and end up homeless or in prison. Look into the troubled teen industry, it is beyond sickening that this type of shit is legal.
Next documentary to make!
I've literally never heard of this in my life.
@@santaclaus5411 essentially they send "troubled teens" to wilderness camps where they are starved and abused for years and come out horribly traumatized (or don't come back at all)
@@santaclaus5411 There's a Webcomic called "ELAN School" where someone who was placed in one of these 'troubled teen' facilities wrote about his experience, it's a hard read, but probably the best insight you could get into it.
@@person5090 Is there a name to any organizations that host these camps?
actually I spent some time in China and oh boy... internet addiction (especially mobile phones and social media) is a nightmare there; we talk about 80% of the society; extremely ubiquitous problem
To clarify and add on, "Uncle Yang" 羊叔 is a derogatory title to Yang Yongxin. It literally translates to "sheep uncle, " coined because the character for "sheep," yang, has the same pronunciation as his last name. He has a similar nickname 羊叫兽 (Yang Jiaoshou)，which sounds exactly like "Professor Yang," except jiaoshou here doesn't mean professor, but "noisy animal." The majority of the Chinese netizens today refer to him as a devil, which is even noted on his Baidu page (think of it as the Chinese version of Wikipedia).
I am extremely disappointed that he managed to get away with everything he has done. Justice has not been served, and I can only hope that one day I'll see him pay for his actions.
Actually he is called 雷电法王 (the master of lightning), and the last name of his is 杨(a popular last name in China)(wrote by a Chinese btw)
We call him Tesla trooper here
@@ziqifang9776 "commencing shock therapy"
This is why, as a student of fully Chinese descent living in China who performs above average, I spend my free time learning German, with the aim of - you guessed it - legally studying and living in Germany (or Switzerland).
It's no secret that good grades are the key to success in China. So what do I do with mine? Try to be successful, of course. By leaving, and only coming back when the time is right.
Viel Glück wünsche ich noch allen, die dieses ebenfalls versuchen. Viel Glück wünsche ich ebenfalls meine chinesischen Landesgenossen, die in einer solchen Zukunft leben müssen.
@kyleleverence4061 Ja, die nahe Zukunft würde weder mit Joe Biden noch mit Donald Trump als amerikanischer Präsident gut aussehen.
Oha dein deutsch ist voll gut, viel Glück 🫶🏻
@@laylataetae7045remigration
Sehr gutes Deutsch! Ich hoffe, dass du‘s nach Deutschland schaffst! Vielleicht schaust du ja auch mal nach Österreich vorbei
Bro just don't go back...leave. I'm a Chinese person too looking to escape one day...
This should get Chinese subtitles so VPN Users or Chinese citizens living / studying abroad can be informed more easily.
I think you can easily find out what happened in those camps in China.
They will know but they can't speak about it. They have their own way of pointing out fraud when they witness it on their state ran social media platforms.
But they can't ever speak the truth...
good point
@@Foquroim sure chinese censorship is doing its thing
There are actually plenty of videos about it on Bilibili (chinese equivalence of RUclips) @@CrisCheese_
Born and raised in China. Fun fact: These concentration camps still exist in the disguise of "Traditional Chinese Schools". And yes, about 60% of the elder generation that I know still thinks that the Internet ruins their kids' future. I'm currently 18 and got admitted by a T10 school in US for undergrad. When my dad shared that news to my relatives, their common reaction was, "WHAT? HOW! HE PLAYS VIDEO GAMES SO OFTEN! HE SHOULD SUCK AT STUDYING! I THOUGHT HE COULDN'T EVEN GET INTO A COLLEGE! " .......bruh. I don't know whether I should be angry or sad about their statements. It just feels like all of my grind, sweat and tears are being written off only because I play Counter Strike and Valorant, and I can't even get mad about it since I have to "respect the elderly". People just have the tendency to believe that once you play video games, you will be a failure.
Congratulations on making it to the school, but I’m sorry that your own relatives think that you are a failure just because you play video games. 😢❤ KEEP ON GOING!! You are not a FAILURE🙏🏼🙌❤️
Remember Fern is NOT suicidal
Cringe
@@capsser7005real
This vomment looks strange
Bots are taking over all social medias
@@capsser7005shush
It's unthinkable what kind of atrocities are going on even today in every country there is.
Great interview and video overall. Even though it highlights an issue that shouldn't be here in the 21st century, it makes my blood boil.
Thank You for shining a light on this.
The whole shitshow there is blood boilingly screwed up. I can't stand the injustice
@@sandwich5344 Yeah, but I van't stand worrying about other countries' problems when my nation has its own. It's just going to add to my ever-growing cynicism.
@@caringheart34what nation are u form and yea he doenst care about what happens to Chinease he just wants to demonize China
@@Bell_plejdo568p Who are you talking about?
Uncle Yang: "I want to resolve a major problem that leads the youth to violence"
also Uncle Yang: *encourages youth to be violent to each other*
also Yang and his "experts" alluded to a possible outcome of internet influence being murder then refers broadly to increased crime rates as support for his claims.
a lot of crimes are small things where whether or not they are prosecuted is left to the discretion of the supposed victims which means it is influenced by the victims' perceptions.
now imagine 2 people commit the same crime but 1 is an athlete and the other is constantly on the internet. which one do you think will be reported by these adults who have a negative opinion about the internet.
if he wants to bolster his claims then he should narrow the crime stats to the murder rates or at least to felonies where law enforcement always takes it seriously then we can see if it is really worse.
Mr Yang:The Internet demon is like Herion
Also Mr Yang:*Literally employs unit 731 tactics*
i remember a chinese video game studio making fun of uncle yang by introducing a weapon into their game called "electric therapy"
Why is it always bad treatment with kid problems? If you suffer from drugs or gambling addictions, depression, disability or whatever else, it will be treated well, but if it’s something mostly kids do, like puberty, gaming, social media and others, it is fought so harshly? I understand that it is more significant when you’re a child, but it’s still insane
Lots of ppl don’t think children are considered people
Because children have no power, there is no recourse for doing these kinds of things, and young people are at the front of every cultural shift.
When I was at a UK university, I wrote an essay which argued that counter to the major academic claims, there is no great faceless 'machine' that disappears people, instead there exists vast swathes of complicit human beings who wilfully organise the torture of their own; suggesting there is a deep, cultural problem with the Chinese people that if left unchecked, would create torture and concentration camps to come into existence.
My professor, a witness to the Tiananmen Sq. massacre, who was known to be heavily sponsored by the CCP, said the the theory was nonsense, my viewpoint was colonialist and that such travesties would never happen in the modern age.
Watching this documentary and looking at what is happening in Xinxiang, I've never been happy to have been proven right and still, that professor has never changed her stance.
Sounds very interesting. Can your essay be read anywhere?
This is not unique to China as you know.
@elizabethsohler6516 tfw America did the same shit a couple years back and it's a "deep, cultural problem with the Chinese people".
There is a book/movies called „The wave“ (Die Welle). It‘s fictional, but touches on dangerous social dynamics and how they can take on a life on it’s own. Basically a home room teacher is faced with somewhat dismissive students when teaching about WW2. They can’t really empathize with why people would have followed Hitler so easily, never really spoke up about the concentration camps and don’t think this would ever be possible today. So the teacher decides to do an experiment in which he re-creates similar social dynamics used during the reign of The Third Reich and of course it takes on a life on it‘s own.
Basically first establishing an „us“ vs „them“, then introducing incentives to belong to the „us“, and then slowly punishing „them“ for not being like „us“.
People who followed the NaZi Party and where part of organisations like the Hitlerjugend benefited greatly from social mobility and a sense of directions and belonging while people wo spoke out against the regime or even helped the jews/foreigners/cripples were punished or „disappeared“ themselves. So yes, in that sense, humans create and enforce their own „imprisonment and torcher“ by being complicit. But it also raises the moral/ethical question of: how much is it actually a choice? At what point can complicity still be considered a choice if the (perceived) alternative is social (and/or literal) death??“
And I think that‘s the point here: the actual or perceived alternative a person THINKS they have. And that is often directed by a „faceless dark entity“ aka fear.
This idea really applies to both, the prisoners (the ones in good standing helped punishing the ones in bad standing to stay in good standing aka they were conplicit to avoid punishment themselves) as well as the parents (parents decided to turn a blind eye thinking ‚what is a short amount of pain for my kid’ vs. the (perceived) alternative of being a decade long outlier to chinese society.
Not trying to excuse the parents behavior here, but there can be an argument made that if the system (aka faceless entity) were different, parents would not fear suffering under Chinese society and the incentive to send their kids to camps like that would not exist.
Not sure if that touched at all on your essay. My point is that simply because Humans „decide“ to create their own prisons, it does not mean that there is not a „faceless entity“ pulling the strings willing them into action.
@@elizabethsohler6516 Nice whataboutism from a first name + number account.
14:40 wait you are telling me that a therapist is more helpful than torture to help children?
Been thinking this the whole time, these camps are so frustrating to me because wow, almost like treating people so subhuman isn’t gonna help them grow and change or whatever. real shocker indeed (sarcasm)
@@megp9id quite frankly, I think the Holocaust survivors can sympathize with the camp victims.
"Room 13" is literally straight out of Nineteen Eighty Four's room 101 what the hell, china cant even make an original torture room
next thing you know they'll start telling you 2 + 2 = 5
“Uncle Yang” also sounds like it could be the name of the “Big Brother” of Eastasia
老大哥万岁
And if you add a one to the start of 101…. in binary that’s 13
It really does
Jesus Christ, room 13 sounds like a conversion treatment I was sent to just because I preferred to hang out with girls when I was a pre-teen.
Why?
Disclaimer, as a Chinese, my English may contain grammar mistakes, point it out and I'm willing to correct it ；D
Many Chinese parents would rather send their poor kids to these "totally legitimate compounds" rather than claiming their wrong way of education (Extremely high study pressure) casuing their kids to a point where the children tried to escape reality (through playing games).
The parents would rather their kids to be corrected the most brutal way possible in the camps than having a talk with their kids and acknowledge their difficulties. What a shame...
For those who are more interested in this topic, there is actually a game named "Breakout13", which it's Chinese name is translated to escape from room 13, with it's style like Detroit Become Human, perfectly explaining the dark truth behind. 10/10 for those who are willing to explore on this topic more, it is also shown in the end of the video for a second, easy to miss it.
This "cure" is just pure chaos after all.
Your English is better than the majority of English speakers.
Don't pretend to be Chinese and spread rumors here😅
Very interesting to hear from a chinese! I cant imagine how chinese teens survive school, its already hell for me in school. And a little mistake I found "The parents would rather *let* their kids...". Your english is very good compared to most people!
When you say "Concentrated Camps" do you mean a prison-like place for people who aren't criminals? What are the Chinese characters for what you translated as "Concentrated Camps"?
Here in the West those places are generally called "concentration camps" or "internment camps". Unfortunately many people here say "concentration camp" to mean "execution camp" (a prison-like place that intentionally kills/murders their inmates) so the meaning of "concentration camp" can get a bit confusing at times.
@@gjvnq Oh I see, thanks for correcting me first, what I meant by concentration camps I do wanna mean like the place which imprison teens for whatever reason and make them suffer. Really sorry to confuse you. I will correct it now.
People in regular clothes say they’re police but want you to get in their clearly not a police car? Bruh that’s how ted Bundy got people
And a fake arm cast and VW beetle... very disarming
Undercover cops have handcruff, baton, taser ,etc(only accessible to polices team that works in police stations)
Source, I watched crime watch
that's how Christensen who was a TA or professor killed a student. pretended to be an authority figure when he wasn't and got a girl to get into his car. he tried this twice or more until he succeeded. pretending to be a police officer or making a false police report is a crime. the first target knew this and called in a report.
"We're from the government, we're here to help"
- Ronald Reagan joking about the horrors of governmental overreach. The guy who started the war on drugs.
Better always call the real police to check.
Chinese kids: “why did you send me here?”
Parents: “it’s cause you always on that damn phone!”
We had to save you from the “internet > bad grades > no friends > you are a murderer” pipeline
@@CantTellYou it's wild how parents think like that 💀
@certifiedmusician what pisses me off is that anyone can be a murderer.
I'm 32 , employed and spend 12 out of twelve hours of my shift on my phone. Where are MY parents ? 😅
@@raeofarc slippery slope fallacy is in our genes
2:34 props to "Paul" for his art direction. Whomever and wherever he may be
its baffling how both america and china can fuck up on the same area
They’re so different yet so similar
In either case you're dealing with people.
it's not as bad since in the US you actually have a fair TRIAL, and is not just immediately sent to a camp if your parents feel like it.
@@lordlofty9689can you explain? Do the US also have these kinds of facilities?
@@PondScummer those are clearly criminally operated though, not officially funded by the government like in china
I can't believe someone outside of China is finally covering Yang Yongxing and the teen torture camps in China!!! Thank you so much!!!! ❤❤❤
It was already a bit Dbd (montreal videogame ) use this guy as a base for one of their character like more that 5y back. Which now explain why their character is so creepy. (The doctor in dbd is you want to see)
Hey, do you know any chineze youtubers that covered it?
@@rchaelk2319 A lot, and he's well known for his atrocities but nothing has done to against him for his actions till this day
@@rchaelk2319 Not on RUclips, but Yang YongXing is actually pretty widely covered on Chinese social media platforms.
If that’s how they treat kids, imagine how badly they treat the uighur people they put in camps
Average Sinophobic comment:
the west is really biased against China. There is only one voice--an anti-China one--in the west now, but any other voice is banned, and anyone who said such kind of words is punished.
French professor Christian Mestre at the University of Strasbourg once visited Xinjiang in 2019. He conducted independent investigations in many places there, talked with many Uyghurs, and later concluded that it was important for the Chinese government to take such measures to fight against terrorism.
He also said that terrorism is a very serious problem in France and that France should learn from China to take such measures.
He said so two years ago, but the professor recently had problems. Journalist Jérémy André Florès at “La Opinión” complained Prof. Mestre of saying so.
Why does Mr. Florès accuse Prof. Mestre of supporting China? Because Prof. Mestre is currently serving as the ethics officer for the Eurometropolis project in which the city of Strasbourg is involved, and the city is debating whether to allow Huawei's 5G project to deploy in the city.
See? In order to stop Huawei from entering the European market, Mr. Florès brought up the past to take down Prof. Mestre.
Western people often say that there is no freedom of speech in China, but is there in the western world?
@@보키더록 so you support the genocide?
@@보키더록 Average bot comment
@@보키더록the chinese government is not the same as the chinese people
Such a bad idea for parents. Even if you force the kids into behaving differently, that doesn't mean they are going to be happy with you about it. When you are old, why will they take care of you after that mistreatment?
Honestly the girl who starved her mother for that is completely valid, imagine sending your own child to a prison camp instead of raising your kid properly
“It’s that damn phone” taken to the utmost extremes.
One shower a week seems pretty chronically online to me☠️
Dangg 😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine how fucked the culture of a country must be, when not only does the government create/endorse such places, but your own parents would willingly send you to them.
Uncle Yang literally sounds like a Hydra doctor. The whole administering electro shock on a person for thirty minutes at a time literally sounds like what Bucky went through in the Winter Soldier. It's very unfortunate that teens are being tortured just for being on the internet.
No way you’re comparing a marvel movie to actual child torture. “It’s unfortunate”, bro it’s tragic
@@David-mj4gwFr 💀
Fun fact: the Doctor from Death By Daylight is actually based on him.
@@David-mj4gwDid you not see the point? The point was that the torture was so depraved he thought it was something that only happened in movies and not something an actual living human would actually do to another human.
@@Moonstone-Redux I do see the point but it’s such a limited world view. If the video covered someone who was comically evil I’d understand but dr Yang and the other camps are more depressing than shocking. It’s all in good faith though
So the troubled teen industry is worldwide…
I see you fellow ace 💪😤
@@IbnRushd-mv3fp EW
is the teen troubled? or is our sick society?
@@marny3559your daddy never hugged you it's okay
@@marny3559 ew at us for being ace? Your point doesn’t even make sense lol. Oooh the woman over there doesn’t want a sexual relationship, how terrifying!! Grow up
My girlfriend is an MTF. She once had to go through this institution where she endured all sorts of torture. They kept her awake for days, deprived her of food, and wouldn't even let her drink water. There were so many other victims there, but they only provided a small amount of food, so most people went hungry.
For other reasons, they forced my girlfriend to take massive doses of androgens and growth hormones. This messed up her hormones badly, causing ulcers to break out all over her body. If I remember correctly, they even executed a victim in front of many others in that place.
When my girlfriend got out, she was left with severe PTSD, depression, and anxiety. The horrors she went through still haunt her to this day.
I am so, so sorry to hear about that. I send out my condolences to her, and I hope she’s in a safe place after enduring all that horrific abuse.
Fucking hell
Hi! If it's okay, may I ask you some questions about this incident privately? I just want to learn how to keep myself safe.
I am really sorry to hear that, I hope she recovers from the trauma
Fresh hell! I hope she's doing alright man :((
I can’t express with words the gratitude of being born in a democracy and freedom over such incompetent regimes.
It's always miserable to be made aware of the ignorance of the masses and the government. Even more frustrating is how superficial the idea of "success" is in the mind of adults; how it is only reflected in grades and later the salary, social standing or work position of a person.
Whats even crazier is that this happens in the US too. Some wilderness programs are absolutely nuts. Wilderness goons take you in the night into the middle of nowhere, asking you to strip naked in front of them and then throwing you into a camp.
What place is this?
@@briannelson3830 most bootcamps in usa has it
What kind of bullshit is this?
There are well-documented cases of death, abuse, and other potentially traumatic situations associated with or caused by wilderness programs, including the following cases:
February 1990 - Three teenagers drown at Convict Lake whilst enrolled at Camp O'Neal.[18] Camp director Bobbi Trott, who was in charge during the teenagers' death, would go on to found Crater Lake School[19] and be a founding member of NATSAP.[20]
May 9, 1990 - Michelle Lynn Sutton from California dies from dehydration whilst enrolled at the Summit Quest program.[21]
1990 - Kristen Chase dies three days into the Challenger Wilderness Program.[22]
January 15, 1995 - Aaron Bacon dies from acute peritonitis whilst attending the North Star Wilderness Program.[23]
2001: The New York Times reports that there have been 31 deaths at outdoor camps for troubled youths in 11 states since 1980.[24]
May 27, 2002 - Erica Harvey dies from heat stroke and dehydration.[25]
July 15, 2002 - Ian August dies during a hike whilst attending the Skyline Journey Wilderness therapy program.[26]
August 2002 - 11 teens are found in distress at a wilderness therapy program camp and taken into protective custody by Montana Department of Public Health and Human Services child and family services division.[27]
September 18, 2002 - William Edward Lee suffers damage to vertebral artery after being restrained.[25]
October 14, 2003 - Charles “Chase” Moody asphyxiates and dies after staff improperly restrains him at the On Track wilderness program in Texas.[28]
March 23, 2003 - Cory Baines dies after a tree limb falls on his tent during the Catherine Freer Wilderness Therapy program.[25]
August 28, 2009 - Sergey Blashchishen dies from dehydration and hyperthermia whilst at Sagewalk Wilderness Therapy Program.[29]
November 23, 2014 - Alec Lansing dies from hypothermia and broken femur whilst trying to run away.[30]
December 2015 - Six students are evacuated from Open Sky Wilderness Program and flown to Denver, Colorado with frostbite; the Open Sky Wilderness Program is accredited by Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Council, Association for Experiential Education, and the Department of Human Services for Colorado and Utah.[31]
February 2024- A 12-year-old boy was found dead at a camp located in Lake Toxaway, North Carolina. He had arrived at the camp less than 24 hours before he was found dead by camp staff. [32] Days later, a woman files a lawsuit alleging she was sexually assaulted by a fellow camper at age 12 at the same camp. [33]
@@briannelson3830 places like elan school. Read the joe vs elan school webcomic
“If I’m found dead, know I do not have suicidal thoughts” ahh video
*Su1c!de has been overly simplified and exaggerated as commonplace. What results in that is a lack of people TRULY understanding it (🤐or differentiating when the government makes to happen).
MOST people who say they have "*Su1c!de al" thoughts are NOT completely honest, or committed to the process, and may be using it for attention (justified or not)
Having the actual condition which goes beyond emotion is very very VERY sad. Anyways I have no ****idal thoughts - i sincerely hope no one in this comment section does either.
“Your child seems to have disregarded your screen time rules, let’s fix that with a controlled shock.” - Dr Yang, literally
it’s crazy how easy these things get brushed off, great video fern!
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This happens in Utah, USA too!
Unfortunately we live in a world where many children are seen as an investment or an object that the parents decide the fate of.
*fern posted*
-go to sleep since its 3am and watch the video later-
watch the movie now ✔️
As a teen who struggled with mental health issues in the 2000s, I used computers and video games a lot as an escape. I didn't have today's Internet back then, and I wasn't into multiplayer games, but it was still bad. I could've been one of these unfortunate teens; I seriously doubt I'd survive.
I did get treatment later in college. While it wasn't as bad as this, it was still rough. I bumped into "bad apples" in the psych field outside of these camps that could do more harm than good, and educating my Filipino parents was (and still is) tough. But I'm gotten thru it and gotten better. And I now advocate for not just proper and accessible MH treatment but also MH education, which I think would resolve/prevent a lot of problems.
MH?
@@zekerdeathmental health.
"You tired of parenting? Here, let a doctor do it instead! Surely that will work better!"
What is happening is parents lacking common sense, falling prey to predators and paying for the privilege literally and metaphorically.
Always the best when fern posts
Agreed!
It ist totally like that
@@Fragender2what is fra gender?
@@CrisCheese_ Its german and comes from the word fragen (asking)
@@Fragender2Nice seeing you here, klaramente 🪿 👍
“It condemns online games like World of Warcraft as digital heroin.” Okay well they might have been right about that one
@@SizzleCorndog A... clock that moves its hands around erratically is right quite a few times a day.
But heroin is better?
I was in Jinan recently and I actually was able to see this school as well as the international school. The contrast is huge.
And here you can see the stark difference between actual military training and forced labor. This "militaristic" type of training only works if the people who are in it are doing it mostly out of their own will. If you look at those stories of navy seals who explain what they went through, yes it is semi abuse and yes they mentally torment you. However, they also give you the freedom to stop and go at any point in training. It's more of a filtering the ones who are not fit, while strengthening the ones that do get through. That plus the fact you're collectively working towards something and getting through with it, makes that much of a difference
As a Chinese, I'm glad somebody finally make video about this topic ,revealing this darkness
感谢你做这个视频，做的挺好的
Thank you for making this video, its pretty good
Yeah it’s dark
Why uncle Yang was never arrested?
@@drebue7065 Well, as far as I know, he use violence to threat all the victims to not spread the truth, and he also disclaimer those illegal activities are all rumors.
Another good documentary! China boutta invade Fern's house for this one!
why did bro write this comment after 3 mins of this documentary being published. he really watched 26 mins on 3 mins
I don't think it's neglect we just can't do anything about it
@@flx.real_ Prolly a bot
@@flx.real_ nah dude he just watched it at 10x speed, get good bro
What are you doing about the abusive troubled teen camps in the US?
Why doesn't my child talk to me anymore?
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I feel like Fern are very conscious of the subject matter that is driving the best response, which means we’re only ever going to get videos about true crime, torture and fraudsters moving forward