To the dyrus haters. If you look at his facial expression everytime he dies, he never seems annoyed. Its a big part of their strategy to give him a champion that can still carry with less farm, and let them camp him. If you remember the games where they don't camp dyrus, he gets ridicilously ahead and starts carrying the game. Dyrus always finds a way to stay in the game no matter how far he gets behind in the lane (when talking about kills) It is very rare that the tsm jungler is top. If he is there, it is to get an objective, "never" for something measly as a kill - Unless its safe for them to do so
Yeah I played as top laner for a ranked 5v5s team for a while in low diamond and as a top laner your job is just to deal with all the shit that the enemy throws at you.
Holypikemanz Do you remember in season 3 when Dyrus would carry? That doesn't happen anymore because now they have Bjergsen and Turtle to get fed. The strategy is to have Dyrus push up and draw ganks, while Turtle and Bjergsen outfarm and outplay their lanes while Santorin ganks for them.
You would think after 3 years of trying to camp Dyrus and failing other teams would get a clue. If you cannot get the kill clean without loosing other objectives then it is a failed tactic. This team found out the hard way you cannot shut down the #1 top Laner in LOL history. Lots of top laners come and go but non help their team as much as Dyrus.
...Actually, historically, Dyrus losing lane has meant he was totally worthless. That's actually the general story of TSM and their faltering in international play. Especially season 2-3 World Championships. I'd say Dyrus managed to finally learn how to avoid dying to camping and that was his greatest contribution to the team. He's not the #1 top laner in LOL history either, just fairly prolific and very lasting.
Just because he's one of the longest lasting players doesn't make him the best. The only thing he has going for him is that he's consistent and he does his job. Impact, Looper and Gogoing can contend for the best top laner in LOL history. Hell, even Quas has a better chance as making it to the list of contenders.
The reason Dyrus is getting a lot of credit for being a top, top laner is because he has been able to play in every meta and play overall solid. Sure there are times he makes some dumb plays where a simple skill shot into a bush or a single ward would save his life but most the time that he gets put down and camped he still comes out even and is capable of having an impact in team fights. Very few players could play as long as he has through a lot of different metas and still be in contention for being a top player.
Teh1AnnOwnLeeByukk I'm sorry but your Quas statement threw out all your credibility. Sure he is capable of carrying at times but his teams have never had a overall winning record and he is only in his second season.
HiImWind I can tell you only play blind pick haha but here it is...they ban champions because in Draft pick before you pick the champion you play each team bans 3 champions. Draft pick is standard in all competitive leagues and is also the standard in ranked matches for MOBA's.
Maybe a stupid question but cant they watch their own matches when they play it on that moment, if someone is dead for 70 sec cant he go on the riotgames stream to watch the enemies even though the 10 sec delay?
The computers are done for LoL only, so you can't just leave the game. I think you can't bring any other device like your phone on the stage either, so that would be pretty impossible
As someone who has watched LoL from season 1 and seen every TSM game let me share a thought. Did they win the game? Was it despite Dyrus? I can remember at least 50 games where Dyrus is camped and TSM takes objectives each time in compensation. Its called strategy. Dyrus has the Lowest KDA of all Top lane players. But he also has the highest gold per min. That's an incredible stat. That means his team lets him get camped from other objective compensation and yet he still out farms his lane opponents who get the benefit from his kills. This is a tried and true strategy and it works like a charm. Dyrus is not a liability he is an asset for his #1 NA world championship team.
Thantanus I completely agree. Lately there's been lots of comments about how TSM should get rid of Dyrus because "he feeds so hard" or "he gets camped and ganked all game". That's sort of the point. TSM *_wants_* the opposing team to focus Dyrus so they can take objectives elsewhere and push lanes. There has been so many times when 2 or 3 people go top to gank Dyrus, and a kill is almost immediately returned in mid or bot - feeding either Bjergsen or WidTurtle, the two carries of TSM. Sometimes those kills turn into rotations for Dragon - and sometimes those rotations to dragon turn into even *_more_* kills. Dyrus being behind barely has an impact on the game before the rest of his team can get so far ahead while the opposing team tries to shutdown Dyrus - which never even works in the end anyways.
They had a bad experience against Viktor in the preliminary match vs TSM. Viktor was changed a few times in the last year and now does "tons of damage". And they just didn't want to play against something they haven't practiced for.
People have to realize that if they don't want something to be spoiled, don't read the comment section. Don't complain if you're gonna be such a dumbass.
Camping Dyrus won't help if you don't let him farm or get exp, he'll become worthless in terms of gold and experience and he won't rage quit over getting camped, this is not solo Q, i think they hate him or something.
The burgerflipp his laning phase is wank but his tf is awesome. it's why tsm tends to put him on rumble and lulu- two champs that can go behind and still make big plays later
Will Harness His laning phase is wank? Highest GPM of all NA top laners. In fact despite being used as the sacrificial lamb for TSM Dyrus still out performs all other top laners in LoL history. Look at his longevity its because he knows his role and perfroms it better than the new people coming up.
Thantanus He isnt even the best this year lets not even get history Huni and Impact shit all over his credentials. Lets not forget how bad he did in lane against the best the world had to offer last year at worlds, yes hes good but best will never be within his reach, lustboy and bjergsen carry that team and if you cant see that you are more blind than lee sin.
Bjergsen and Santorin are NA players now. They are originally from EU, but they developed their talents and use their talents on the NA scene: in NA LCS and NA solo queue. EU is the weakest region right now, so stay salty you EU fanboy.
Picks and ban : 2:54
Game Start: 10:51
27:07 Janna Ult into Rumble Ult into Lissandra stun. Good god I feel bad for WE. I have never seen a gank gone so bad
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To the dyrus haters. If you look at his facial expression everytime he dies, he never seems annoyed. Its a big part of their strategy to give him a champion that can still carry with less farm, and let them camp him. If you remember the games where they don't camp dyrus, he gets ridicilously ahead and starts carrying the game. Dyrus always finds a way to stay in the game no matter how far he gets behind in the lane (when talking about kills) It is very rare that the tsm jungler is top. If he is there, it is to get an objective, "never" for something measly as a kill - Unless its safe for them to do so
Exactly what happens in Game 3 vs We.
+Thantanus Funny thing is, that i wrote the comment before i watched game 3
Yeah I played as top laner for a ranked 5v5s team for a while in low diamond and as a top laner your job is just to deal with all the shit that the enemy throws at you.
It's that Darien feed-to-win strat
Holypikemanz Do you remember in season 3 when Dyrus would carry? That doesn't happen anymore because now they have Bjergsen and Turtle to get fed. The strategy is to have Dyrus push up and draw ganks, while Turtle and Bjergsen outfarm and outplay their lanes while Santorin ganks for them.
You would think after 3 years of trying to camp Dyrus and failing other teams would get a clue. If you cannot get the kill clean without loosing other objectives then it is a failed tactic. This team found out the hard way you cannot shut down the #1 top Laner in LOL history. Lots of top laners come and go but non help their team as much as Dyrus.
In history? Dude he never won a international tournament before today calm down.
...Actually, historically, Dyrus losing lane has meant he was totally worthless. That's actually the general story of TSM and their faltering in international play. Especially season 2-3 World Championships. I'd say Dyrus managed to finally learn how to avoid dying to camping and that was his greatest contribution to the team.
He's not the #1 top laner in LOL history either, just fairly prolific and very lasting.
Just because he's one of the longest lasting players doesn't make him the best. The only thing he has going for him is that he's consistent and he does his job. Impact, Looper and Gogoing can contend for the best top laner in LOL history. Hell, even Quas has a better chance as making it to the list of contenders.
The reason Dyrus is getting a lot of credit for being a top, top laner is because he has been able to play in every meta and play overall solid. Sure there are times he makes some dumb plays where a simple skill shot into a bush or a single ward would save his life but most the time that he gets put down and camped he still comes out even and is capable of having an impact in team fights.
Very few players could play as long as he has through a lot of different metas and still be in contention for being a top player.
Teh1AnnOwnLeeByukk
I'm sorry but your Quas statement threw out all your credibility. Sure he is capable of carrying at times but his teams have never had a overall winning record and he is only in his second season.
Dyrus the Master Baiter
blackhawks911 Best master baiter NA.
Neonemerld I thought that was Locodoco though
Termininja mother of god
CRUMBS THE ALL-KNOWING!!
LOL @ 12:50 "the master-bait indeed" im dying.
"The master bait from dyrus"
Tony Hawk Shana :D
Tony Hawk LOL looks like im not the only one who notice that line XD
Tony Hawk dyrus is the master baiter.
THE MASTER BAIT HAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm still slowly waiting for that good guy who upload the time of "picks&ban" and "game start".
Draft starts at 2:53
I love how Santorin doesn't even want Dyrus to get any kills when he ganks for him! Santorin just wants to carry! :D
Amazing vision control, but no teamwork. Ickle firsties always have so much to learn, but yet you can still learn a lot from them. Good finals.
Did anyone notice WildTurtle brought 2 different Sivir skins into these 2 games?
Just a general question; why is there banned champions when they choose champions?
HiImWind I can tell you only play blind pick haha but here it is...they ban champions because in Draft pick before you pick the champion you play each team bans 3 champions.
Draft pick is standard in all competitive leagues and is also the standard in ranked matches for MOBA's.
lol the "master bait"
These Leona ultimates
Maybe a stupid question but cant they watch their own matches when they play it on that moment, if someone is dead for 70 sec cant he go on the riotgames stream to watch the enemies even though the 10 sec delay?
The computers are done for LoL only, so you can't just leave the game. I think you can't bring any other device like your phone on the stage either, so that would be pretty impossible
:( still tt
Ty*
no this is Esports that is considered cheating.
Prodigal Ink okay ty.
TSM very good mid player.
At the beginning of the game, the Minions had barely spawned when TSM took 2 kills. That's what I call risky.
what is the name of the pick song?
it is kinda funny for dyrus & maokai walk all the way to red base lol
dame its hurt when dyrus i fantsy team
Dyrus is a hole in the TSM
Dyrus seems to be the "Achilles Heel" of TSM.
As someone who has watched LoL from season 1 and seen every TSM game let me share a thought. Did they win the game? Was it despite Dyrus? I can remember at least 50 games where Dyrus is camped and TSM takes objectives each time in compensation. Its called strategy. Dyrus has the Lowest KDA of all Top lane players. But he also has the highest gold per min. That's an incredible stat. That means his team lets him get camped from other objective compensation and yet he still out farms his lane opponents who get the benefit from his kills. This is a tried and true strategy and it works like a charm. Dyrus is not a liability he is an asset for his #1 NA world championship team.
Thantanus True
Thantanus Last season he had the highest KDA of the top laners in NA. It may seem like he falls behind a lot, but dang is he good.
*****
he got the highest KDA, because he didnt die for like 6 games in a row... dispite being camped
Thantanus I completely agree. Lately there's been lots of comments about how TSM should get rid of Dyrus because "he feeds so hard" or "he gets camped and ganked all game". That's sort of the point. TSM *_wants_* the opposing team to focus Dyrus so they can take objectives elsewhere and push lanes. There has been so many times when 2 or 3 people go top to gank Dyrus, and a kill is almost immediately returned in mid or bot - feeding either Bjergsen or WidTurtle, the two carries of TSM. Sometimes those kills turn into rotations for Dragon - and sometimes those rotations to dragon turn into even *_more_* kills. Dyrus being behind barely has an impact on the game before the rest of his team can get so far ahead while the opposing team tries to shutdown Dyrus - which never even works in the end anyways.
12:44 phrasing
Sivir just counters Leona
As Sivir you just use your spell shield when Leona E's you so that you dont get stunned by her Q
TSM is the second coming of Jesus within 6 guys(including Locodoco).
was anyone else moving their mouse or is it just me
DYRONE THE MASTER BAITER AND LUSTCENA
TSM Wonnered?
havent watched LoL for about a year and viktor is a banned champion?? what the hell
You haven't watched Lol for about a year and NA is still better than EU :)
They had a bad experience against Viktor in the preliminary match vs TSM. Viktor was changed a few times in the last year and now does "tons of damage". And they just didn't want to play against something they haven't practiced for.
tsm won 3-0
norm ja twat
There is only 3 games uploaded. You could have figured that out for yourself. plus if you don't spoilers, then you shouldn't read the comments.
People have to realize that if they don't want something to be spoiled, don't read the comment section. Don't complain if you're gonna be such a dumbass.
***** You would risk spoilers for 30 seconds of seeking through the video. Shame on you.
*****
literally takes 1 click and about 2 seconds of brain work to skip to game start...
THE CASTERS DONT KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT XD
Well, it's a late rape game... Cheers to everyone watching this live.
Too ez.
Dyrus is a Vyrus
skripi skripi
1st. 240p plz
TSM IS VAN PICK VICTORY.
Camping Dyrus won't help if you don't let him farm or get exp, he'll become worthless in terms of gold and experience and he won't rage quit over getting camped, this is not solo Q, i think they hate him or something.
Master Bait here Master bait!? EH! EH !EHHHHH!
Wtf is wrong with Dyrus?
The burgerflipp his laning phase is wank but his tf is awesome. it's why tsm tends to put him on rumble and lulu- two champs that can go behind and still make big plays later
Will Harness His laning phase is wank? Highest GPM of all NA top laners. In fact despite being used as the sacrificial lamb for TSM Dyrus still out performs all other top laners in LoL history. Look at his longevity its because he knows his role and perfroms it better than the new people coming up.
Thantanus He isnt even the best this year lets not even get history Huni and Impact shit all over his credentials. Lets not forget how bad he did in lane against the best the world had to offer last year at worlds, yes hes good but best will never be within his reach, lustboy and bjergsen carry that team and if you cant see that you are more blind than lee sin.
he's a master baiter
Zach Melvard i'm blind!
kill the dyrus is simply not a legit strat
Dyrus has no friggin idea how to play Rumble!! Stop fking ulting at 5% hp.
Hero's of the storm > LoL
Atticus X Atleast you tried C:
WE lose van pick.
lolololo EU > NA since bjergsen and santorin carry. ez noob na scrubs hurrrrr
Bjergsen and Santorin are NA players now. They are originally from EU, but they developed their talents and use their talents on the NA scene: in NA LCS and NA solo queue. EU is the weakest region right now, so stay salty you EU fanboy.
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weiofnewioafnioas hahahaha EU CARRY NA SCRUB!!!!
Master bait :D