At this point I don't even have the money for the itx cases or any the stuff Ali shows but I'm just here for every video because of how clean they are. Best PC RUclipsr
Just built in this case and have some updates: It has 3-slot GPU support and despite what the manual says, I was able to install 3x120mm 25mm thick intake fans in the bottom, as well as an ASUS 360AIO up top alongside a full ATX 170mm long Seasonic Prime Titanium 1000W PSU in the case with absolutely no problems. I'm running the ASUS ROG Z690 ITX, 2x16GB Dom Plats 5600 C36 and a 12600K with a Gigabyte Vision 3080Ti. I only have complaint about the case in the the included feet seem too short, so I purchased a set of rubber feet for $10 US and installed them using the included foot screws to add a full inch / 2.5 cm of standoff between the desk and bottom of the case. I cannot overstate how solid this case is built and how many screws there are holding the internal structure together- it's a tank, albeit a small one. I went with the TG sides to keep the chimney effect intact and the GPU is staying under 60 degrees under full load. It is a bit loud as I'm not undervolting or using high end fans, but I'm very impressed with the build quality and would recommend the case for those seeking a more compact build with amazing compatibility. It's not very portable, but it is dwarfed by an 011. Build quality is top notch and I'm very happy with the purchase. Thanks for the review! Edit: I went with this because despite being 'for sale off and on', the NR200P Max is still hard to get a hold and this case offers much more layout / cooling flexibility (albeit at the sacrifice of volume).
@@SchwertKruemel Sandwich mode to accommodate the 170mm ATX PSU. I believe one could use horizontal mode with an ATX PSU up to ~160mm if you only install 25mm thick top fans and no radiator, but I have not tried this config yet.
@@SchwertKruemel Update: swapped to standard layout due to a core upgrade to 7800X3D / 4080 Super. Had to move to an SFX-L Loki PSU due to Z-height limitations with top 360AIO, but it fits a Zotac Extreme AIRO 3.5-slot, 355mm GPU (ZT-D40820B-10P)! Good clearance from the bottom intake with no installed case fans / no wind noise at full load. Can't use the front-mounted 2.5" sled with a GPU this long and had to remove the GPU backplane to accommodate for the IO cover on the ASUS B650E-I Gaming Wifi, but it all fits!
Dare to say best on the internet. The way he keeps things compact and personal is what I enjoy from this channel. It feels like it’s just you, him and straight to the point.
a real sneaky one, the biggest shill in SFF PC market. He never mentioned how many liters is it in this video. Why is he hiding this essential information for SFF build? And he always downplays the noise in his reviews.
It really is not. He has absolutely stunning visuals and a really neutral attitude towards certain topics. He also reads into stuff before making a video on that. Good guy overall
Jonsbo tends to have some of the nicest looking cases out there. Sadly, not many review them (properly) or show some modern hardware in it. The Jonsplus BO 100 looks super nice, hope you can review that one too. The Jonsbo U1-Plus and the T8 are another two ITX cases that look clean and very modern, hope one day you can do videos on those too.
My gawd. Jonsplus i100 Pro, SSUPD Meshlicious, Cooler Master NR200. 2021 is the year I dabble into "Large-ITX/Small-ATX" PC builds! As always, mahalo for the inspiration Ali!
That describes nearly any computer component at the moment, not just new ITX cases. Even last-gen GPUs are overpriced and out of stock due to shortages.
Just received mine 2days ago. Can buy directly from Taobao. Prepare for expensive shipping fee. bought the black version of this. Use with 3 slot gpu with nhd15. Rog strix 3070, temp is good around 63~. No need to add extra slim fans.
@@aa65064 I went from a ~400 € Cosmos to a ~550 € Cosmos Black to then a ~400 € Cosmos II and now just bought a 92 € NR200 in prevision to build a new rig at some moment in this year (when the GPUs become available). I would say that SFF cases are usually dirty unexpensive compared to full towers, in my experience...
@@Buran01 NR200 has changed the game. I went from a Louqe Ghost S1 that I paid almost $300 USD for to an NR200 for $80 so that I could actually fit a new GPU into it. It's still very compact and good looking. Mainly just much taller.
Dude, i want to build Biceps and ITXs for life as well, but you simply cant find ITX cases around here in brazil! hahah Great video, makes me wanna leave my redragon ironhide so badly💪😁
I honestly feel it’s worth mentioning none of the other smaller cases have dust filters, while the jonsbo does. For someone who has a super dusty room (that carpet produces dust like there’s no tomorrow) this is essential. Either way, thanks for the review!
Looking forward to seeing the custom loop build in that case. I (like a lot of people, I imagine) am taking the opportunity to thoroughly shop/watch for an ideal build configuration to put together after all of the supply and tariff shenanigans have resolve themselves.
A 'bit' bigger, sure - but this thing is freaking HUGE. It's the same size as a Bitfenix Prodigy, which is so bulky it's difficult to carry even with the handles.
@@werdfeefs7027 I feel like a large part off the ITX community actually doesn't care too much for mobility. A lot off the builds just seem to be for minimalism/not wanting a huge desktop anymore.
Love your channel and your reviews. This is not a comment about you or your review. But for me if I’m going ITX - I want small. I have an NCase and absolutely love it. Yes there are some compromises but I think they are the right ones. This one is a giant by comparison.
3:59 it actually would make heaps of sense to liquid cool your gpu over your cpu if you had the chance, gpu's produce way more heat than cpu's these days. Or am i missing something here?
I have tested the Jonsbo A4, the Jonsbo V10 with vented side panels and also the Jonsbo V10 with TG and I have to say that the V10 with vented side panels gives the best result for GPU and CPU temperature if you're using a sandwich layout. Noise levels are comparable but I have to say that I've deshrouded the graphics card and attached 3 slim 92mm Noctua fans to keep the noise level down.
Would love to see you do a review of the Jonsbo D30. Just built my first SFF build, this was the main contender for case, but I ended up going for the Jonsbo D30 (from the parent company), just as it provided a bit better support for DTX / mATX motherboards, and I preferred the layout with the PSU being side on in the top corner as it left plenty of room for RGB controller, fan controller, 2 SSDs and solid cable management, while still fitting a 240 AIO up top, a 120 fan on the exhaust, and 2 140 fans on the bottom.
I bought the smaller A4 and I was really genuinely surprised how well the airflow works. I am running a 5800x @ 75W with a passive cooler in it that was made for max. 47W TDP...
This is basically as small as you can get without any compromises in (air)cooling. It seems to be ideal for de-fanned 2,5-slot GPUs and will fit any CPU aircooler. They could make it modular to allow for 3-slot GPUs, though.
Are you going to do a review of the Sliger S620? It sort of fits in this area of massive air cooler and gpu support, but is sized a lot closer to the ncase m1 and nr200
I bought this case a year ago with pretty much exactly the aircooled setup shown in this video. while it is easily as, if not better build than recent lian li cases, and gets the job done, i did not really fell in love with it. despite not beeing volume optimized and having unused spaces everywhere, there are some really odd angles and shapes that make cable routing a pain. for example, there is protruding 90° metal lip on the mainboard holder i needed to dremel away to get the sata cables onto the motherboard. that lip is used to screw the psu cage to, but could easily been removed below in factory. that psu cage is another non needed oddity that makes routing cables a nightmare. especially the usb-c front panel connector cable is really stiff and there is not enough room to bent it. there is also only a really small breakout to get two sata and power cables to the 2.5" drive holder behind the front plate and you have to bent them in a really tight angle (90° cables dont fit either) which exert constant force onto the connectors. only having space for a 2 slot graphics card despite the size is also something that becomes more and more unreasonable with newer GPUs. there are some other things that mainly having to do with sub-par layout and sizing problems too. and i am not new to building itx systems by no means. its just not a well designed case on the inside. i would go with an alternative, like the fractal torrent nano next time.
Well now. I’m torn. That looks so nice. Imagine that in white with the z590i vision, a nhd15 white chromax when that finally launches, and either a white 3090 strix or vision with all white chromax fans, white custom cables, white ram, and a white painted psu. That just might be my new dream build. Yeah. Sold.
Please take a look at the Jonsplus BO 100! Another smaller case from Jonsplus, with a retro aesthetic! Has space for a 120mm radiator so might be cool for a mini custom loop! Thanks!!
i've built a few matx's with jonsbo aluminium and they're actually quite sweet. cooling is always a challenge but omg the result is beautiful. small neat pro looking machines
3:58 It's an odd setup, yes, but watercooling your GPU makes a ton more sense than watercooling your CPU, so maybe it's about time youtubers start talking about this more...
@@mikeymaiku In one of my pcs, I use a Kraken G12 to cool my 2080. Originally, that card was a blower style card... Needless to say it's day and night. For my other PC, I managed to get a 3070. Didn't get much off a choice for which model, and it's noisy while gaming. G12 isn't compatible, and it seems water locks for 3070s are hard to find too, so at the moment, I'm stuck. But if I could water cool that card I'd do it right away. Both PC's have a Ryzen 5 5600x in them. With a good Noctua cooler, no need for water-cooling at all...
Idk wether you have heard of the new slim 120mm fans from Arctic but if you did what are your thoughts on them? I remember you saying that the 25mm ones were really good fans for their price, but can the same be said about the new slimmer ones?
I'm waiting on last fittings for my custom loop build in Jonsbo A4. I have my PC already set up in it without the sides on stock coolers. Also has nice build quality and isn't flimsy like most cheap PC cases. Saying that I also wouldn't put it in a budget category. I think the only issue that I have with the A4 for now is that it's split down the middle too evenly and that wastes a lot of space on both sides. Anyway. Hope the airflow setup works out and I manage to keep it cool with just the single 240mm rad.
I'm looking to build my second computer (first itx) and I've been following your channel for a while. I'm so glad you reviewed this case since it's already on sale in my country. I'm thinking this case, CM nr200, or the Jonsbo A4. Hoping you can review the a4 too!
So I just got this case and now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to make the most of it with an EVGA FTW3 3080Ti. I like the air cooled set up so I got the NH-D15S, it looks great. The problem is, even 15mm slim fans won’t fit under the FTW3 3080Ti shroud. It might be fine without them but I deshrouded the card anyway, however, the fan slots do not line up well with the heat sink and I would need 30mm for no gap. Instead I zip tied two NF-A12s to the heatsink. Going to see how that performs but I’m leaning more towards water cooling the GPU while keeping the D15S on the 5900x. Maybe I should just get two rads and watercool the CPU too but it does seem a little simpler to just do the GPU with it’s own dedicated rad and loop. There would be more negative pressure with two rads and better airflow with only one. It is the tempered glass version so having good vertical airflow will probably be crucial for optimal thermals. Not really sure what to do and don’t want to spend too much more. I didn’t even want a 3080Ti but I couldn’t find a 3080 for a decent price. I got the 3080Ti for $1500 sealed.
Definitely excited to see a custom loop in this case, seems a bit like there’d be no room for a traditional pump res with the PSU to the right of the MOBO and above the GPU, maybe a pump block combo will do the trick
For a guy who makes such good looking PC's, I'm surprised you haven't bought a dedicated 12 pin cable for your PSU(s). It makes a huge difference to aesthetics and cable tidiness.
I'm one of those who prefers air cooling over liquid. Not that I think there's a risk with liquid cooling. It's more like there's a bit more maintenance to do with liquid and I'm often too busy/lazy to want to maintain stuff too often. Air coolers will generally be fine even if you only clean once or twice a year. Yeah it'll probably be dirty but at most you'll be getting a few degrees hotter, if even that. I also don't build showpieces: I only build PCs for practical use. My purpose for wanting small form factor builds is also practicality, because I actually move around a lot (prior to the pandemic I even moved around between countries with my PC). So liquid cooling makes even less sense. My rules for building can be summed up into whatever gets me decent enough performance in the simplest and most cost-effective way is good enough.
I'm looking forward to seeing this thing go underwater, it's huge and has a lot of waste space for an SFF but it's attractive and looks like it will allow you to make decent use of the space when you start adding radiators.
I use this case with custom watercooling, GPU is vertical mounted. in this way, I feel everything in the case, even the m.2 ssd on backside of MB are cooling very well. most important it's really quiet.
Big fan of high end air cooling. My CPU is cooled by a big Noctua tower cooler and my GPU is cooled by a Raijintek Morpheus II with two Noctua fans mounted to it. Air cooling means fewer noisy moving parts. An AIO has both fans and a pump, a big air cooler has only the fans. Sure the cooling potential is greater with a water cooler, especially with sustained loads, but desktop CPUs just don't produce that much heat. I can understand liquid cooling in servers with multiple 280w CPUs, but not with a modern 65-105w desktop CPU.
depending on use, a watercooled GPU with air cooled CPU might actually be more efficient there are AIO GPUs out there with 240mm radiators and by putting the radiator from the GPU slightly to the front (basically avoiding the top fan mount that's directly pointing at the CPU cooler), you could mostly avoid the warm air coming from the CPU
I've got the case and it is indeed focused on air cooling. P L E N T Y of air cooling performance it's almost comparable to an open test bench temps due to how *perforated* it is, literally.
What I'd like to see is this same Air cooler, and having a custom loop with both 360mm radiators for the GPU. Most often for gaming you don't need a powerful CPU at all, like my 5600x is low voltage and barely goes above 50% load ever while running 4k 144fps on APEX, but on APEX my game will run 144fps while the GPU is cold and level out at 90FPS while it maintains 75 degrees at max load.
Wonder if a Kraken G12 and 240mm or 360mm Kraken cooler will fit and still have 25mm thick intake fans. You can skip the 92mm fan on the G12 if 25mm fans can fit depending on how the tubes can be kept out of the way.
As always a great video. Thank you for your work :) Not really appealing to me as a NR200 owner, but I agree that it might be a good contestant for compact cases with potent air cooling to reduce noise levels. The price is a bit steep though compared to its competitors.
The sandwich layout in a huge case like this makes no sense. And only having 2 PCIe brackets is a huge omission. On the bigger end of what most people would need, and not with the best space optimization. That being said though, if you don't mind the compromises, it looks like a solid case.
Well, it is optional. But yeah, it isn't an efficient use of the space. And pci-e slot deficit is an oversight. Its not really a SFF build, it's just a small midtower with no matx support
How did you wire the fans? I have a 5800X and a B550-I, i dont have so much SYS-FAN connectors... Did you take several y-connectors and then plug them into the existing Sys Fan? Or did you install a Commander Pro? Or did you install a small hub and then plug it into the SYS FAN? I have exactly the same case and am just thinking about what is best. Thank you btw for your time :)
Meant to get a M1, not available, got an Nr200 instead / to pass the time. Might get this one instead tbh, custom loop with top monted 360mm rad and glass sidepanel... Sounds pretty neat to me. If its gonna be in stock and available in black that is
FYI: It is only possible to rotate the Noctua cooler with Intel sockets. With AMD it is not possible and you have to take a similar setup as with a NCase M1 - pull in fresh via the back!
I'd really love to see more case reviews with air cooling. Whether it be solely air cooling or both (individually) water loop and air cooling for the reviews.
Sadly i'm not impressed with these kind of case form factor anymore. I'm really longing for a more accessible alternative to skyreach 4/console type form factor
Could you do an update video on the camera equipment that you use nowadays? Its been quite a while since the last video you made about it, i'd definitely be interested in seeing that
They could have done a micro atx layout in the same space by moving the psu to the front, moving the motherboard up to the three top fans and adding the remaining two slots, maybe three extra slots. You will be limited to only air cooled but it will probide an uption for other users that are aircooling anyway.
I would love to see you test more Jonsbo cases (as example the new V10, priced around 100$). They often look great, but i would love some decent testing on performance.
I have this case and loving it. What can setup would you recommend as I have a triple slot GPU which I can’t fit any intake fan below. I’m using Fuma 2 air cooler as well. Should I put 3 fans to exhaust or intake at the top?
Wow really nice case! you can probably do a deshroud on a strix card, and get really sweet temps. The cpu temps should be really awesome aswell Top exhaust, bottom exhaust (solid vented panels).
gotta appreciate a well designed, clean case without any logos tbh
Yes! That's one reason why I got a Jonsbo U4 Plus!
Never seen that word spelled that way before.
@@bamtombam let's start using it that way
Mad respect for the size comparisons bro. It's always tough to judge size from a video. These comparisons provide a clear picture.
Try comparesffpc.com though. It helps a bit
@@ScuffedIonian that's nuts! I didn't know about this tool. Thanks!
I think Optimum Tech is one of the only youtubers that actually understand consumers
I can count with one hand how many I rely on and trust. There is 3-4 that I still follow.
For real! I'll watch some LTT videos and think "Hey that looks totally badass and cool!", but everything in the video costs a bajillion dollars
@@MatthewF21 I'm not sure that LTT videos are exactly "consumer-centric" as they are entertainment.
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At this point I don't even have the money for the itx cases or any the stuff Ali shows but I'm just here for every video because of how clean they are. Best PC RUclipsr
Just built in this case and have some updates: It has 3-slot GPU support and despite what the manual says, I was able to install 3x120mm 25mm thick intake fans in the bottom, as well as an ASUS 360AIO up top alongside a full ATX 170mm long Seasonic Prime Titanium 1000W PSU in the case with absolutely no problems. I'm running the ASUS ROG Z690 ITX, 2x16GB Dom Plats 5600 C36 and a 12600K with a Gigabyte Vision 3080Ti. I only have complaint about the case in the the included feet seem too short, so I purchased a set of rubber feet for $10 US and installed them using the included foot screws to add a full inch / 2.5 cm of standoff between the desk and bottom of the case. I cannot overstate how solid this case is built and how many screws there are holding the internal structure together- it's a tank, albeit a small one. I went with the TG sides to keep the chimney effect intact and the GPU is staying under 60 degrees under full load. It is a bit loud as I'm not undervolting or using high end fans, but I'm very impressed with the build quality and would recommend the case for those seeking a more compact build with amazing compatibility. It's not very portable, but it is dwarfed by an 011. Build quality is top notch and I'm very happy with the purchase. Thanks for the review! Edit: I went with this because despite being 'for sale off and on', the NR200P Max is still hard to get a hold and this case offers much more layout / cooling flexibility (albeit at the sacrifice of volume).
are you running it in sandwich layout with a tripple slot gpu or in the horizontal mode?
@@SchwertKruemel Sandwich mode to accommodate the 170mm ATX PSU. I believe one could use horizontal mode with an ATX PSU up to ~160mm if you only install 25mm thick top fans and no radiator, but I have not tried this config yet.
@@SchwertKruemel Update: swapped to standard layout due to a core upgrade to 7800X3D / 4080 Super. Had to move to an SFX-L Loki PSU due to Z-height limitations with top 360AIO, but it fits a Zotac Extreme AIRO 3.5-slot, 355mm GPU (ZT-D40820B-10P)! Good clearance from the bottom intake with no installed case fans / no wind noise at full load. Can't use the front-mounted 2.5" sled with a GPU this long and had to remove the GPU backplane to accommodate for the IO cover on the ASUS B650E-I Gaming Wifi, but it all fits!
thanks for this , I'd like the FSP Hydro Ti , 4080 Super & have an EK CR240 - appears it'll all fit - appreciate your time
This is really one of the best tech channels on RUclips.
Dare to say best on the internet. The way he keeps things compact and personal is what I enjoy from this channel. It feels like it’s just you, him and straight to the point.
a real sneaky one, the biggest shill in SFF PC market. He never mentioned how many liters is it in this video. Why is he hiding this essential information for SFF build?
And he always downplays the noise in his reviews.
It really is not. He has absolutely stunning visuals and a really neutral attitude towards certain topics. He also reads into stuff before making a video on that. Good guy overall
@@allansh828 says its 26 liters in volume at @ 1:06...
@@allansh828 He said 26 liters.
Although I don't think I would be able to do an ITX build, I love watching this channel. Truly one of the best tech channels. Cheers!
Got to say the content on this channel is top notch. Super informative and the visuals are always a pleasure
Jonsbo tends to have some of the nicest looking cases out there. Sadly, not many review them (properly) or show some modern hardware in it. The Jonsplus BO 100 looks super nice, hope you can review that one too. The Jonsbo U1-Plus and the T8 are another two ITX cases that look clean and very modern, hope one day you can do videos on those too.
First time I saw one of your videos you had 10k subs. Seeing you hit almost 500k is super nice and totally deserved!
Could you look into the Jonsbo A4. Its a beautiful ITX case and Id love to see you do a custom loop in it and review it.
the gray version looks so sexy, if i didn't have a Dan A4....
@@MKR3238 I got the black version and Im waiting to start my build in it as I need to figure out how I want to build the loop in it still.
+1
Jonsbo A4 and V10 are both very interesting cases. The A4 defnitely looks sper sexy and I'd be eager to see how it performs with a decent fan setup.
My gawd. Jonsplus i100 Pro, SSUPD Meshlicious, Cooler Master NR200. 2021 is the year I dabble into "Large-ITX/Small-ATX" PC builds! As always, mahalo for the inspiration Ali!
Best ITX review site period. I get so excited a new case review comes out!!
Impossible to buy, high price, must be a new ITX case.
you can buy from taobao. and yes it is new and expensive. I bought the other one bo100 which was released at the same time.
@@kenny_n_k_e do you have google?
That describes nearly any computer component at the moment, not just new ITX cases. Even last-gen GPUs are overpriced and out of stock due to shortages.
@@TimBoundy 2021 is the worst year for diy fans
@@yuhufeng5370 2021, 2020 and late 2019 were the absolute worst.
Just received mine 2days ago. Can buy directly from Taobao. Prepare for expensive shipping fee. bought the black version of this. Use with 3 slot gpu with nhd15. Rog strix 3070, temp is good around 63~. No need to add extra slim fans.
*reads title* ''oh man finally a case for my budget air cooled build''
*hears price* ''ok nvm''
Get the NR200 instead. ;) Better space optimization, GPU support and price.
You must be new to SFFPC
Get sg13 with Corsair h60 and Arctic p12 fan
Or get Cougar QBX
@@aa65064 I went from a ~400 € Cosmos to a ~550 € Cosmos Black to then a ~400 € Cosmos II and now just bought a 92 € NR200 in prevision to build a new rig at some moment in this year (when the GPUs become available). I would say that SFF cases are usually dirty unexpensive compared to full towers, in my experience...
@@Buran01 NR200 has changed the game. I went from a Louqe Ghost S1 that I paid almost $300 USD for to an NR200 for $80 so that I could actually fit a new GPU into it. It's still very compact and good looking. Mainly just much taller.
For an ITX case that large, it's almost unforgiveable for it to not offer triple slot card support.
Here comes Mr. Dremel (◉ʖ◉)
WTF lol
bruh
it has 3 slot support
@@vailpcs4040 Yes, but no. It has space for 3 slots Cards, but not 3 PCi slots per se (just 2), as stated in the video.
looks pretty interesting. too bad they didn't make the final steps: full mesh panels option + triple slot gpu support
It does have 3-slot support as of May 22. I'd say that even a 3.5 slot GPU would fit.
@@vailpcs4040 67mm
Dude, i want to build Biceps and ITXs for life as well, but you simply cant find ITX cases around here in brazil! hahah Great video, makes me wanna leave my redragon ironhide so badly💪😁
@Gabriel foda né.. :/
Import not an option I take it? Guess you'll just have to double the biceps effort!
Esses caras se lixam pra brasileiro cara. Por isso eu sempre digo: parem de babar "ovo" dessa raça estado unidense e canadense, ingleses no geral.
I honestly feel it’s worth mentioning none of the other smaller cases have dust filters, while the jonsbo does. For someone who has a super dusty room (that carpet produces dust like there’s no tomorrow) this is essential.
Either way, thanks for the review!
Looking forward to seeing the custom loop build in that case. I (like a lot of people, I imagine) am taking the opportunity to thoroughly shop/watch for an ideal build configuration to put together after all of the supply and tariff shenanigans have resolve themselves.
Awesome review, thanks. Personally, I don't really mind ITX cases being a bit bigger for a solid size/heat balance. Looks interesting!
A 'bit' bigger, sure - but this thing is freaking HUGE. It's the same size as a Bitfenix Prodigy, which is so bulky it's difficult to carry even with the handles.
@@werdfeefs7027 I feel like a large part off the ITX community actually doesn't care too much for mobility. A lot off the builds just seem to be for minimalism/not wanting a huge desktop anymore.
@@werdfeefs7027 smaller than the h210i and 011 dynamic, lul
Love your channel and your reviews. This is not a comment about you or your review. But for me if I’m going ITX - I want small.
I have an NCase and absolutely love it. Yes there are some compromises but I think they are the right ones. This one is a giant by comparison.
3:59 it actually would make heaps of sense to liquid cool your gpu over your cpu if you had the chance, gpu's produce way more heat than cpu's these days. Or am i missing something here?
That's what I'm thinking too, in my air cooled system my gpu is 10x louder than anything else (under load)
@@mikael5677 youll never get a kit that involves a gpu only loop.
I'm using their A4 case with all air cooling on 2070 Super + R5 3600, really happy with the choice.
I have tested the Jonsbo A4, the Jonsbo V10 with vented side panels and also the Jonsbo V10 with TG and I have to say that the V10 with vented side panels gives the best result for GPU and CPU temperature if you're using a sandwich layout.
Noise levels are comparable but I have to say that I've deshrouded the graphics card and attached 3 slim 92mm Noctua fans to keep the noise level down.
Great work on your videos, sir! Love the visual aesthetic, too!
Would love to see you do a review of the Jonsbo D30.
Just built my first SFF build, this was the main contender for case, but I ended up going for the Jonsbo D30 (from the parent company), just as it provided a bit better support for DTX / mATX motherboards, and I preferred the layout with the PSU being side on in the top corner as it left plenty of room for RGB controller, fan controller, 2 SSDs and solid cable management, while still fitting a 240 AIO up top, a 120 fan on the exhaust, and 2 140 fans on the bottom.
Huge oversight on the motherboard! It should be adjustable. Another great review Ali! 👏 👏 👏
I bought the smaller A4 and I was really genuinely surprised how well the airflow works.
I am running a 5800x @ 75W with a passive cooler in it that was made for max. 47W TDP...
This is basically as small as you can get without any compromises in (air)cooling.
It seems to be ideal for de-fanned 2,5-slot GPUs and will fit any CPU aircooler. They could make it modular to allow for 3-slot GPUs, though.
Are you going to do a review of the Sliger S620? It sort of fits in this area of massive air cooler and gpu support, but is sized a lot closer to the ncase m1 and nr200
Seconded also the S610 if possible
I bought this case a year ago with pretty much exactly the aircooled setup shown in this video. while it is easily as, if not better build than recent lian li cases, and gets the job done, i did not really fell in love with it. despite not beeing volume optimized and having unused spaces everywhere, there are some really odd angles and shapes that make cable routing a pain. for example, there is protruding 90° metal lip on the mainboard holder i needed to dremel away to get the sata cables onto the motherboard. that lip is used to screw the psu cage to, but could easily been removed below in factory. that psu cage is another non needed oddity that makes routing cables a nightmare. especially the usb-c front panel connector cable is really stiff and there is not enough room to bent it.
there is also only a really small breakout to get two sata and power cables to the 2.5" drive holder behind the front plate and you have to bent them in a really tight angle (90° cables dont fit either) which exert constant force onto the connectors.
only having space for a 2 slot graphics card despite the size is also something that becomes more and more unreasonable with newer GPUs.
there are some other things that mainly having to do with sub-par layout and sizing problems too. and i am not new to building itx systems by no means. its just not a well designed case on the inside. i would go with an alternative, like the fractal torrent nano next time.
You finally tested this case, I am very happy! Unfortunately you did not try the case with an aio. I hope u will try soon the Jonsbo A4
Thanks for keeping the reviews short and to the point
Nice to see a Jonsbo case on your channel!
Hugely underrated brand imo
So it’s bigger than an SFF (
it's a wopping 26L, over 3X the volumn of Dan case.
@@allansh828 yeah it’s huge
Well now. I’m torn. That looks so nice. Imagine that in white with the z590i vision, a nhd15 white chromax when that finally launches, and either a white 3090 strix or vision with all white chromax fans, white custom cables, white ram, and a white painted psu. That just might be my new dream build. Yeah. Sold.
Please take a look at the Jonsplus BO 100! Another smaller case from Jonsplus, with a retro aesthetic! Has space for a 120mm radiator so might be cool for a mini custom loop! Thanks!!
i've built a few matx's with jonsbo aluminium and they're actually quite sweet. cooling is always a challenge but omg the result is beautiful. small neat pro looking machines
3:58 It's an odd setup, yes, but watercooling your GPU makes a ton more sense than watercooling your CPU, so maybe it's about time youtubers start talking about this more...
One day we might get gpu onky diy kits... but manufacturers probly make a killing peice meal
@@mikeymaiku In one of my pcs, I use a Kraken G12 to cool my 2080. Originally, that card was a blower style card... Needless to say it's day and night. For my other PC, I managed to get a 3070. Didn't get much off a choice for which model, and it's noisy while gaming. G12 isn't compatible, and it seems water locks for 3070s are hard to find too, so at the moment, I'm stuck. But if I could water cool that card I'd do it right away. Both PC's have a Ryzen 5 5600x in them. With a good Noctua cooler, no need for water-cooling at all...
That looks absolutely sick with that Noctua heat sink like that. I find unlike the NR200 it fits in well with the PSU housing looks wise.
Idk wether you have heard of the new slim 120mm fans from Arctic but if you did what are your thoughts on them? I remember you saying that the 25mm ones were really good fans for their price, but can the same be said about the new slimmer ones?
You are the best architect for all kind of pc cases
Dual TG panels and sandwich layout would be cool! Just slap fans in pull push from bottom to top and it'd be a pretty sweet setup.
With that airflow and the case design this makes for a nice little room heater.
I'm waiting on last fittings for my custom loop build in Jonsbo A4. I have my PC already set up in it without the sides on stock coolers. Also has nice build quality and isn't flimsy like most cheap PC cases. Saying that I also wouldn't put it in a budget category. I think the only issue that I have with the A4 for now is that it's split down the middle too evenly and that wastes a lot of space on both sides. Anyway. Hope the airflow setup works out and I manage to keep it cool with just the single 240mm rad.
since u can fit coolers upto 165mm in height in sliger s620 - (16 litres)
This ones in kind of a tough spot.
too bad sliger not shipping to my country. Their cases are nice.
I'm looking to build my second computer (first itx) and I've been following your channel for a while. I'm so glad you reviewed this case since it's already on sale in my country. I'm thinking this case, CM nr200, or the Jonsbo A4. Hoping you can review the a4 too!
So I just got this case and now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to make the most of it with an EVGA FTW3 3080Ti. I like the air cooled set up so I got the NH-D15S, it looks great. The problem is, even 15mm slim fans won’t fit under the FTW3 3080Ti shroud. It might be fine without them but I deshrouded the card anyway, however, the fan slots do not line up well with the heat sink and I would need 30mm for no gap. Instead I zip tied two NF-A12s to the heatsink. Going to see how that performs but I’m leaning more towards water cooling the GPU while keeping the D15S on the 5900x. Maybe I should just get two rads and watercool the CPU too but it does seem a little simpler to just do the GPU with it’s own dedicated rad and loop. There would be more negative pressure with two rads and better airflow with only one. It is the tempered glass version so having good vertical airflow will probably be crucial for optimal thermals. Not really sure what to do and don’t want to spend too much more. I didn’t even want a 3080Ti but I couldn’t find a 3080 for a decent price. I got the 3080Ti for $1500 sealed.
Definitely excited to see a custom loop in this case, seems a bit like there’d be no room for a traditional pump res with the PSU to the right of the MOBO and above the GPU, maybe a pump block combo will do the trick
This is a really good case for fitting the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin in an ITX case.
I just built my first ITX in a Lian Li TU150 Its awesome.
At first I thought that's a ripoff of my Jonsbo A4. But after you said it's a subbrand from Jonsbo it was clearly why it looks similar.
Loving the push from the Chinese market. Finally, more variety which hopefully means lower prices and better availability. Either way, about time.
Test the Arctic P12 Slim. New fan that just came out, seems to perform similar to the P12 25mm but sounds better.
Awesome looking black build. Nice case airflow design.
I like the more personal approach you doing here
Wow! Finally a nice dual 360 rad itx case! Might actually snag this
WOW. If I had this case in my country I would sure buy it even it
For a guy who makes such good looking PC's, I'm surprised you haven't bought a dedicated 12 pin cable for your PSU(s). It makes a huge difference to aesthetics and cable tidiness.
I'm one of those who prefers air cooling over liquid. Not that I think there's a risk with liquid cooling. It's more like there's a bit more maintenance to do with liquid and I'm often too busy/lazy to want to maintain stuff too often. Air coolers will generally be fine even if you only clean once or twice a year. Yeah it'll probably be dirty but at most you'll be getting a few degrees hotter, if even that.
I also don't build showpieces: I only build PCs for practical use. My purpose for wanting small form factor builds is also practicality, because I actually move around a lot (prior to the pandemic I even moved around between countries with my PC). So liquid cooling makes even less sense.
My rules for building can be summed up into whatever gets me decent enough performance in the simplest and most cost-effective way is good enough.
I'm looking forward to seeing this thing go underwater, it's huge and has a lot of waste space for an SFF but it's attractive and looks like it will allow you to make decent use of the space when you start adding radiators.
Nice! Keep up the good work!
I use this case with custom watercooling, GPU is vertical mounted. in this way, I feel everything in the case, even the m.2 ssd on backside of MB are cooling very well. most important it's really quiet.
Would like to see a comparison with the TU150! It should fit a D15 too.
This is perfect timing. Was looking for an ITX
Big fan of high end air cooling. My CPU is cooled by a big Noctua tower cooler and my GPU is cooled by a Raijintek Morpheus II with two Noctua fans mounted to it.
Air cooling means fewer noisy moving parts. An AIO has both fans and a pump, a big air cooler has only the fans.
Sure the cooling potential is greater with a water cooler, especially with sustained loads, but desktop CPUs just don't produce that much heat. I can understand liquid cooling in servers with multiple 280w CPUs, but not with a modern 65-105w desktop CPU.
depending on use, a watercooled GPU with air cooled CPU might actually be more efficient
there are AIO GPUs out there with 240mm radiators and by putting the radiator from the GPU slightly to the front (basically avoiding the top fan mount that's directly pointing at the CPU cooler), you could mostly avoid the warm air coming from the CPU
Cool case with a very interesting set of compromises. I like these cases that stay a bit above the 20L mark. Seems great for flexibility
You gotta check out JOAT 14.9, the smallest itx that can house D15 afaik
I've got the case and it is indeed focused on air cooling. P L E N T Y of air cooling performance it's almost comparable to an open test bench temps due to how *perforated* it is, literally.
@@ijtl999 sad that it is sold out
4:25
Deal breaker for many... Bigger box but can't fit bigger GPUs.. even the M1 has 3 slots...
Lol thats still like 15% at best of cards today. There are many "3 slot" cards but how many are "true" 3 slot cards?
@@mikeymaiku Hardly the point though....
I'd love to see reviews on taobao cases, since some are cheaper but do the same as similar US designs.
You can fit an nd15 in the nr200 mesh just need to drill slightly bigger holes for the protruding heatsink ends, if only they made it a few mm bigger
I'm an air cooling guy. Thanks, this is my new itx case.
I built a dual rad custom loop in this case a couple months ago. Took some modding but it can be done.
What I'd like to see is this same Air cooler, and having a custom loop with both 360mm radiators for the GPU. Most often for gaming you don't need a powerful CPU at all, like my 5600x is low voltage and barely goes above 50% load ever while running 4k 144fps on APEX, but on APEX my game will run 144fps while the GPU is cold and level out at 90FPS while it maintains 75 degrees at max load.
Wonder if a Kraken G12 and 240mm or 360mm Kraken cooler will fit and still have 25mm thick intake fans. You can skip the 92mm fan on the G12 if 25mm fans can fit depending on how the tubes can be kept out of the way.
As always a great video. Thank you for your work :) Not really appealing to me as a NR200 owner, but I agree that it might be a good contestant for compact cases with potent air cooling to reduce noise levels. The price is a bit steep though compared to its competitors.
The sandwich layout in a huge case like this makes no sense. And only having 2 PCIe brackets is a huge omission. On the bigger end of what most people would need, and not with the best space optimization. That being said though, if you don't mind the compromises, it looks like a solid case.
Well, it is optional.
But yeah, it isn't an efficient use of the space. And pci-e slot deficit is an oversight.
Its not really a SFF build, it's just a small midtower with no matx support
How did you wire the fans?
I have a 5800X and a B550-I, i dont have so much SYS-FAN connectors...
Did you take several y-connectors and then plug them into the existing Sys Fan?
Or did you install a Commander Pro?
Or did you install a small hub and then plug it into the SYS FAN?
I have exactly the same case and am just thinking about what is best.
Thank you btw for your time :)
A 26l case with support for two 360mm rads? Sounds very interesting for an OP build with a 5950X and RTX 3090!
Meant to get a M1, not available, got an Nr200 instead / to pass the time. Might get this one instead tbh, custom loop with top monted 360mm rad and glass sidepanel... Sounds pretty neat to me. If its gonna be in stock and available in black that is
FYI: It is only possible to rotate the Noctua cooler with Intel sockets. With AMD it is not possible and you have to take a similar setup as with a NCase M1 - pull in fresh via the back!
You can request a mounting kit from Noctua (or buy it new for ~ $10 if you don't want to wait) that allows AM4 rotation
Nice video as always from OT, but I randomly wonder, what's the point of any PC building related videos if you can't buy any graphics card? :/
I'd really love to see more case reviews with air cooling. Whether it be solely air cooling or both (individually) water loop and air cooling for the reviews.
Sadly i'm not impressed with these kind of case form factor anymore. I'm really longing for a more accessible alternative to skyreach 4/console type form factor
Agreed
Same. I just went with a nzxt h400 since it has the needed space for custom cooling and it didn’t cost me an arm and leg.
Agreed. I'm looking for some innovation in the "fits under my TV" space to tempt me away from my Silverstone SG13.
It's not the absolute most optimized case, but the Sliger CL520 is pretty cool imo. Reviewed on this channel a while back in case you missed it.
@@erich.5326 it still not as readily available.
Could you do an update video on the camera equipment that you use nowadays? Its been quite a while since the last video you made about it, i'd definitely be interested in seeing that
They could have done a micro atx layout in the same space by moving the psu to the front, moving the motherboard up to the three top fans and adding the remaining two slots, maybe three extra slots. You will be limited to only air cooled but it will probide an uption for other users that are aircooling anyway.
great video, a shame that this "big" case doesn't support matx, anyways, could you test those new p12 slim from arctic?
I'd love to see a review of the Sliger S620. It's a smaller at 16L but still supports big air coolers like the Noctua D15
Would love to see a "Behind the scenes"- video!
What about drive support though? We don't all have a fancy NAS.
Damn if this could fit 3 slot cards, this'd probably be one of the best compact air cooling cases on the market
Dremel and some touch up paint will do the job.
I’m pretty sure he says it’s 3-slot around 4 minutes.
3 slot cards work, you just can't put extra fans under the gpu
I would love to see you test more Jonsbo cases (as example the new V10, priced around 100$). They often look great, but i would love some decent testing on performance.
I have this case and loving it. What can setup would you recommend as I have a triple slot GPU which I can’t fit any intake fan below. I’m using Fuma 2 air cooler as well. Should I put 3 fans to exhaust or intake at the top?
Wow really nice case!
you can probably do a deshroud on a strix card, and get really sweet temps.
The cpu temps should be really awesome aswell
Top exhaust, bottom exhaust (solid vented panels).
simplicity of air cooling & arctic fan for me too
Brilliant review!
I love this! IMO this is begging for a dual 360 endgame build to dethrone your NCase M1. Build it!!