It's made out of a high-temp resistant polyester with 10% carbon fiber. Disc heat is never a consideration that close to the hub. However, locking the bike in a hot van or leaving somewhere rather hot like certain parts of Arizona/Australia used to be a problem with the previous material I used which would go through glass transition at ~60°C, new one is good one up to 85°C so no worries. :)
perhaps you could include some shimms so the installer can set their depth by shims like on car axel differential carriers. have you put these on onyx racing hubs in a vado 4.0? i want to buy one for this application.
Perhaps you could re-watch the video and pay attention to the fact that the tool is not necessary and it never was, it's only there for default combinations to help people who don't listen to installation instructions get it correct on the first attempt. It's the empty device test that will confirm if you got this right. If the hub is compatible, PLANET3 installation depth was always achievable 100% correctly just by aligning the first edge of the sun gear with the edge/lip of the ring gear. This makes it completely independent of the hub tolerances which do vary by up to 0.8 mm.
@@planet3bike I was just thinking about engineering out the stupid but if it varies by that much, nearly a millimeter, no great way to do that. In automotive axles and automatic transmissions it's common to have maybe 0.2 variance and shim by .03 at a time, 0.8 is a massive difference...
@@beardedgaming1337 Yep.. for the purposes of PLANET3 even a tenth or two is a problem if there's bending momentum trapped in the ring gear because it continues to exert pressure on the sun gear and over time the press fit goes to hell and the planet wears out.. hence the empty device test which has to be absolutely quiet, but I'll be re-doing all the installation videos in the upcoming few weeks and treating people more like "users" i.e. patronizing the shit out of them. :D
I bought a 2019 Levo Gen2 and there were no chips around at the time. It snowed for nearly 2 weeks straight and it just sat in the living room. Second day of staring at it upside down because I was adjusting the derailleur I looked at the braking side with the magnet and the thought literally appeared out of nowhere "I can prolly squeeze a planetary gearset there". Off to the Bauhaus for 2 sets of feeler gauges and 2 days later I had the profile of the rear end measured (gaps from the rotor to the frame in areas of interest) and the prototype modeled in SolidWorks. Asked 3 firms for offers to 3D print the parts, was quoted 113 EUR, 86 EUR and 45 EUR, respectively. Went with the 113 EUR one cause "quality costs, bro", it turned out to be utter shit. Then went with the 45 EUR one, worked like a charm and looked great. Once I knew it worked, I looked online for similar products and found a thread on emtb forums from an American who basically did the "same thing". My heart fucken sank to my heels because it would've been the 7th time in a row I thought of something only to find out it's already been done 150 years ago by an Englishman or some shit. However, after the initial disappointment I looked at what he did and fucken jumped for joy because he was a moron. Basically, he designed it the wrong way - the thing that should stand still - rotates, and the other way around. So, I had to keep quiet for the next 2 months while I wrote a patent submission because if you say anything in public which can be found on the internet or anywhere (drawing on a cave wall on Mars photographed by NASA etc.) it becomes public domain and it cannot be patented. Then mid-April 2019 I got it registered for a patent and waited like a moron until "I make a webshop and everything and prepare for a proper product launch". This was the wrong thing to do because I ran out of money :P So, in July people were still asking on Facebook groups "how do you derestrict the new Levo" and I just replied with a photo of my gizmo and said "well, I made this.. works pretty nicely." The rest is history.. The webshop is still not fully functional or public but that didn't stop 5000 people from getting one. The guy to thank initially is Jim Ridley from the UK. He was the first customer, bought two (for himself and the wife) and this loudmouth, of his own accord, took photos during install, wrote a glowing review and posted it on 3 separate Facebook groups for Levo/Kenevo owners. Next day, 17 emails... Well, fuck. Sorry, Mike.. didn't mean to write a novel, but it just kept going since nobody asked this before. :P
@@planet3bike As a MTBr and Auto Mechanic and I found yr reply most excellent :-) I am off to yr website now to purchase yr kit for my new Giant Reign E+ Pro... The first video of yrs I watched I thought...I like his sense of humour .. Im sold already...:-)
@@planet3bike You're a true legend. We need more fine engineers like you. Simple is always best! P.s. I ordered mine on Tuesday; arrived today and I haven't even picked my Creo Expert yet :P No problem from DHL (it looks like they no longer have an issue with a simple gear?!). I'm off to boast to everyone about this fine piece of engineering :)
@@superfost2001 Yeah, the note was there because with Brexit I didn't know what to expect but ZERO parcels were ever stopped when going to UK. In the meantime I've registered for UK VAT and forward it to them directly.. but still, wasn't registered for 7 months and zero issues. Might remove the warning :)
Well, you can pay for shipping and I can send you one.. BUT, the point of this video was for users to realize the importance of proper installation depth which was ALWAYS possible to achieve by simply using the visual method of edge alignment as explained in the Creo SL installation instructions at this timecode: ruclips.net/video/rbZ55SyJq2E/видео.html This is both a better and more reliable method that will always work.
This guy is a genius. Worked perfectly on my Specialized Levo
Hi from USA! Can you help with a product/solution for a 2022 Heckler w/I9 101 hubs?
Do you have install video about turbo levo gen3(2022) ?
awesome product! What kind of plastic is the device made out of? Will the disc heat not eventually warp it?
It's made out of a high-temp resistant polyester with 10% carbon fiber. Disc heat is never a consideration that close to the hub. However, locking the bike in a hot van or leaving somewhere rather hot like certain parts of Arizona/Australia used to be a problem with the previous material I used which would go through glass transition at ~60°C, new one is good one up to 85°C so no worries. :)
perhaps you could include some shimms so the installer can set their depth by shims like on car axel differential carriers. have you put these on onyx racing hubs in a vado 4.0? i want to buy one for this application.
Perhaps you could re-watch the video and pay attention to the fact that the tool is not necessary and it never was, it's only there for default combinations to help people who don't listen to installation instructions get it correct on the first attempt. It's the empty device test that will confirm if you got this right. If the hub is compatible, PLANET3 installation depth was always achievable 100% correctly just by aligning the first edge of the sun gear with the edge/lip of the ring gear. This makes it completely independent of the hub tolerances which do vary by up to 0.8 mm.
@@planet3bike I was just thinking about engineering out the stupid but if it varies by that much, nearly a millimeter, no great way to do that. In automotive axles and automatic transmissions it's common to have maybe 0.2 variance and shim by .03 at a time, 0.8 is a massive difference...
@@beardedgaming1337 Yep.. for the purposes of PLANET3 even a tenth or two is a problem if there's bending momentum trapped in the ring gear because it continues to exert pressure on the sun gear and over time the press fit goes to hell and the planet wears out.. hence the empty device test which has to be absolutely quiet, but I'll be re-doing all the installation videos in the upcoming few weeks and treating people more like "users" i.e. patronizing the shit out of them. :D
How did you come up with this device/idea? were u looking for a solution for ages? or just musing and bingo? :-)
I bought a 2019 Levo Gen2 and there were no chips around at the time. It snowed for nearly 2 weeks straight and it just sat in the living room. Second day of staring at it upside down because I was adjusting the derailleur I looked at the braking side with the magnet and the thought literally appeared out of nowhere "I can prolly squeeze a planetary gearset there". Off to the Bauhaus for 2 sets of feeler gauges and 2 days later I had the profile of the rear end measured (gaps from the rotor to the frame in areas of interest) and the prototype modeled in SolidWorks. Asked 3 firms for offers to 3D print the parts, was quoted 113 EUR, 86 EUR and 45 EUR, respectively. Went with the 113 EUR one cause "quality costs, bro", it turned out to be utter shit. Then went with the 45 EUR one, worked like a charm and looked great. Once I knew it worked, I looked online for similar products and found a thread on emtb forums from an American who basically did the "same thing". My heart fucken sank to my heels because it would've been the 7th time in a row I thought of something only to find out it's already been done 150 years ago by an Englishman or some shit. However, after the initial disappointment I looked at what he did and fucken jumped for joy because he was a moron. Basically, he designed it the wrong way - the thing that should stand still - rotates, and the other way around. So, I had to keep quiet for the next 2 months while I wrote a patent submission because if you say anything in public which can be found on the internet or anywhere (drawing on a cave wall on Mars photographed by NASA etc.) it becomes public domain and it cannot be patented. Then mid-April 2019 I got it registered for a patent and waited like a moron until "I make a webshop and everything and prepare for a proper product launch". This was the wrong thing to do because I ran out of money :P So, in July people were still asking on Facebook groups "how do you derestrict the new Levo" and I just replied with a photo of my gizmo and said "well, I made this.. works pretty nicely." The rest is history.. The webshop is still not fully functional or public but that didn't stop 5000 people from getting one. The guy to thank initially is Jim Ridley from the UK. He was the first customer, bought two (for himself and the wife) and this loudmouth, of his own accord, took photos during install, wrote a glowing review and posted it on 3 separate Facebook groups for Levo/Kenevo owners. Next day, 17 emails... Well, fuck. Sorry, Mike.. didn't mean to write a novel, but it just kept going since nobody asked this before. :P
@@planet3bike As a MTBr and Auto Mechanic and I found yr reply most excellent :-) I am off to yr website now to purchase yr kit for my new Giant Reign E+ Pro... The first video of yrs I watched I thought...I like his sense of humour .. Im sold already...:-)
@@planet3bike You're a true legend. We need more fine engineers like you. Simple is always best! P.s. I ordered mine on Tuesday; arrived today and I haven't even picked my Creo Expert yet :P
No problem from DHL (it looks like they no longer have an issue with a simple gear?!). I'm off to boast to everyone about this fine piece of engineering :)
@@superfost2001 Yeah, the note was there because with Brexit I didn't know what to expect but ZERO parcels were ever stopped when going to UK. In the meantime I've registered for UK VAT and forward it to them directly.. but still, wasn't registered for 7 months and zero issues. Might remove the warning :)
@@planet3bike cool story! Enjoyed that! I’m going to purchase your kit for my 2022 trance x advanced e+o if you do one for that? Thanks
How can I get one of these leveling tool for my Planet 3. I've a Creo SL
Well, you can pay for shipping and I can send you one.. BUT, the point of this video was for users to realize the importance of proper installation depth which was ALWAYS possible to achieve by simply using the visual method of edge alignment as explained in the Creo SL installation instructions at this timecode: ruclips.net/video/rbZ55SyJq2E/видео.html This is both a better and more reliable method that will always work.