BACK IN STOCK! - WestCreek RACER offset SG - $219 Reverse Offset with a few issues.
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I got this guitar thanks to your video back in early January because man, THIS is how my guitar is supposed to look. The fretwork (looking for low action) and pickups suck but man with some love put in this has become a serious modding project. Got locking tuners on it, a pair of unbranded seymour-like pickups and A LOT of action adjustments + fret work (mine had the fret rocker rock way more than yours). It is now a decent guitar and one of the best looking oddities I have around.
Oh and hopeless nut, I cut those slots waaay deeper, even sanded down the first fret a little in addition to some. So happy with it right now, thanks Ryan. But beware, interested potential buyers: It will need love, quite a lot of it. As Ryan well says towards the end, a great modding platform. Discouraging to beginners for sure because it's awkward as heck out of the box.
Once set up properly... what a rock, hard picking blues, riff machine. Never expect Ibanez fast, don't get fooled by the "Racer" part of its name - it's a different kind of racing, back when cars had less safety measures and were more likely to get you killed but made you feel more alive, probably. Something unstable and funny and just reliable enough to not fail miserably on you. Mod it wisely if you intend to ever hit a stage with it. I'm halfway there.
From first glance i can't help but notice how this came together: ESP LTD production did a mistake on one Viper in their factory. This is a Viper! Upside down (a leftie with controls for right handed). I've always loved the Viper 🤩 One of the very few metal guitars i really considered buying. Topsy turvy they're nice too 😋
ive played a esp/ltd baritone viper and i really liked it sounded great too
@@rainbowslushy223cool! I always wanted it as a baritone if ever. No shape fits a baritone better imo. Maybe one day...
fr the viper is GOAT, bang for ur buck.
Exactly what I thought about the Viper looks.. And the concept of a budget guitar brand buying a boo-boo run from a major brand is something I never thought of.
That's actually awesome of true lol
Why does a racing stripe ALWAYS make a guitar cool. Without that racing stripe, the guitar is powerless over me. But that little stripe makes me want to buy it for no reason.
That weird reverse offset makes it look really good, like a RD or whatever those are called instead of an SG.
Of all the guitars this is def one. I actually dig the whole look. The high nut throwing off intonation is something a lot of people overlook and something I didn’t realize was a factor when I was younger
I don't need another guitar! I don't need another guitar! I don't need another guitar....
Yes you do yes you do yes you do, lol 😂
@@robnolletti3603 😈😈
😅😅😅
the reversed offset sg shape looks super cool. even the headstock is kinda nice.
I just received my black racer and oh my what a great great guitar. Live in Canada. It cost me 300 bucks. What a steel quality is there plays nice sounds good. I am just dumbfounded.
That guitar would be great for the band Stryper!
Super big thank you to the patrons, love the channel
25 is PRS scale
The shape would be more accurately described as a reverse ESP Viper
Exactamente
I bought one just for the colour. It’s good bang for the buck.
Mine was delivered today. Yaller n black. Must be a new batch. And they were listening on the nut. Mine is spot on. The pups are still microphones but I didnt expect that to change. I like it so much I have a set of SD high voltage pickups coming for it. Yes the pickups cost more than the whole guitar. Not the first time Ive done that.
Just amazing what you can get for very little buckage these days. I like the look of this guitar-I love SGs-I’ve never seen a reverse offset one! Crazy idea, but it looks cool. There’s nothing wrong with that guitar that a good setup and better pickups won’t cure. If I was to buy a guitar in this price range, I’d expect to replace the pickups and probably the tuners as well. My first electric was a St George, made by Teisco, got it in 1964, and it was the ‘60s equivalent in price to this one. $85 as I recall, and it was a much lower quality instrument than this thing.
Love it!
I just ordered the DC LP jr model.. $134 on Black Friday!
This would be a perfect candidate for some wide range humbucker style offset pickups
I like the look of the racing stripe-thank you.
I went to snap one of these up because I'm a sucker for a good looker with decent reviews and a junkie's price and saw they had a purple one... so, I went purple, because purple is the deepest color. Anyway, purple showed up and it was amazingly fine-- very clean build, nice, clear, honest and responsive pickups, beautiful fretboard and such a smooth play. Love it. So, my eye was always on that none more yellow so swveral months later, price still low, I ordered up the yellow. By comparison, both fretboards are equally lush, but the similarities kind of end there. Yellow has more of a baseball bat neck, glossed to match the candy apple coating across the body (purple was matte, like the body, fairly flat neck, especially by comparison), yellow's pickups smokier than purple (purple uncovered, maybe a good example of the whole covers debate), but other than these differences (significant) they're both really fun and comfortable and mega great for the money. My yellow gloss also came with a pickup selector poker chip (not pictured) and purple matte had black hardware and no stripes (just aesthetics.) Anyway, these were both sweet for 190 clams. 💜💛
Despite the minor flaws, the fact this axe is sold-out from Amazon shows it's a good value for the money!
Even if it isn't perfect stock, it's unique and good enough that it seems like it'd be the perfect mod machine and good to buy if someone is trying to learn how to setup a guitar properly.
For $219 and a little work and you’re good. You’re totally right.
That’s cool it’s like a thicker esp viper it’s really cool looking
I am going on my 4th Westcreek, the Racer being my 4th. I bought the 333, Helios, and JX-20. Racer will be here around the 24th. A change of strings for all, and some bridge adjustment (JX-20 was way off) and holy crap. I love these guitars.
I've got two of these (I live in Canada), the grey one and the red one. Really nice guitars, especially the grey one, it's the first SG type guitar that doesn't neck dive on me. Be advised tho, the red one is more pink candy red then the red they have on the amazon pictures.
I live in Chinada as well, ordered the revenge model today in almost an army green color, never really in to explorers but the price and color got me, also grabbed the firefly yellow bat on Amazon wish they had more fireflys
I got this a couple of weeks ago in yellow. Tried it a rehearsal and yeah the pickups squealed bad, which was a shame as they sounded ok but completely unmanageable, and the tuners sucked really bad (turn turn turn turn, nothing. The worst I've encountered and impossible to play with serious frustration). However the nut was spot on as was the setup with perfect intonation. Changed the tuners and pickups and now the thing is great. Love it and enjoyed modding it. Nice one Ryan
They have a new purple one that I have my eye on...until that one is sold out too!
It was a coin toss for me between the purple and the yellow. I got the yellow…
That's an upside down ESP Viper.
But I bet it don't measure up to a viper 400
I’ve been thinking of buying one of these. I think swapping the hardware from silver to black would be awesome.
I screamed NO at the tv when I saw the thumbnail. I love you, but now Westcreek will be a $500 guitar.
Awesome, thanks, thinking of getting the Black one, enjoy your vid! Thanks Don 🙂 👍 🎸👏
That's a cool looking guitar. I have the Westcreek DC LP Jr. Kinda thing. It's KILLER.
You can not beat this price for a set neck, 2 humbuckers, nice fret edges, and great action!
I snagged a Censtar Saturn ( Less Paul ) with all of those features, and a slightly high cut nut, for under two bills! Too good to pass up!
None of those features make a guitar expensive. It’s like bragging about a car that has 4 tires.
Ryan says he doesn't own another yellow guitar with a yellow sparkle jag-stang over his shoulder 😂
That’s green
For crying out loud, that’s gold sparkle.😂
@@familiarpurrson8744I also vote that it’s gold sparkle with yellow undertones. Have we just discovered that Ryan might be colorblind?! 😱😂😉
@@MashaT22 You might be colorblind. It's definitely green.
All of you are colorblind! Thats green sparle with a hint of yellow🤪
Last time I looked on Amazon they still had 10 of these Westcreek Racers (4 blk, 6 red) for sale. I’m thinking about getting one.
I just grabbed one of those from Amazon. There are still a few available. Can't wait to see that yellow up close and personal
I got a yellow one, it will be here Thursday and with a coupon and tax cost 190 bucks
Me likes me some cheap-o git-fiddles. One like that in cherry red would legit suit my fancy TBH.
Great video dude!
That thing looks really cool, a couple of P-94 an you are golden
I'm liking that blue and white amp behind you. I believe that you should be able and be prepared to do basic maintenance on any guitar. If the basic body of the guitar is good, then fixerup and play.
Ryan, its an inexpensive guitar. Mixrophonic pickups dont always need replaced. Sometimes they simply arent wax potted. Doing that costs almost nothing. Try that before you pay more money for new pickups. Cheers. 🍻
I would like to see a video on that being done.
Im so glad i chose this as my first guitar.
I got something out of it because you have fun.
i saw it just yesterday and I had to buy it, now waiting for it to get home! i am going to put some pieces that I have alredy at home, such a v shape Gretsch bridge, superdistortion pickup in bridge position, lockers tuners and some better pots that i have, very excited about this beauty, it is a whole inspiration to play so fast kind of punk rock as Zeke ,Poison Idea, dwarves and some more, hihihihihihi \m/
The side profile when you hold it up looks siiickk for some reason
I have always hated this style, but when I saw the yellow and black stripe I jumped on it. It matches my Ram truck. Had it drop shipped to Michigan and then drove it back to Ontario just to get one. I wanted to hate it but in the end I couldn't. Yes I had to fix the nut but I have to do that on all the guitars I buy. I put in push poles for the humbuckers and change the tone caps to 22s. Felt no need to change the buckeyes as they sound great. I changed the tailpiece to a v-style like the gretsch streamliner series and it really makes it pop😮.
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I want the red one to put my 2 humbucker sized P90's in.
I just realized, I have been watching your vids under another account of mine.. not my patreon account.
😂
Guess its all good (vic on bass)
On a cheap guitar hearing 'action is uncomfortably fast and i would probably raise it a bit' this is a great thing to hear on a budget guitar because they usually suffer from action needing to be high to because of fret or nut issues.
Great review Ryan. All the good and not so good points demonstrated in a nice and fun manner. A great jam over the loop too. And a bonus 'live' string breaking! Awesome!
I think the stock strings must be really bad because after you changed the high E it stood out and looked really bright and shiny compared to the other 😅
Super cool! Wish they were available for purchase! That thing looks super cool and fun
It looks like a reverse of the “SG” shape you can order from Warmoth, but those are always made as bolt-on bodies.
Reverend Roundhouse guitars are kind of an offset Les Paul shape… a Surfy Paul?
About the Pickups: You might get rid of dark muddiness of you adjust the pickup height. Maybe they aren't wax dipped and that is causing the feedback. I notice the pickups are 4 conductor, red, yellow, white, bare so that means you can do things like splits, tap, and out of phase.
I've never wanted an SG type until now.
Same here
Looks like a great mod platform to me.
If I didn't already have an old beater Epiphone SG, I'd play that West creek. I'd like to find a good chibson next lol. Check the neck relief with the strings off. Sean(scar my guitar) got a West creek and it had a slight back bow too. Might explain your low action, almost buzzy frets, and the nut slots being shallow
The Red ones finally got back in stock and I grabbed one. Going to put 2 P90s in it.
I've been checking everyday, still nothing!! I bought the Revenge and it is a great guitar top to bottom, can't find a flaw. They've gone out of stock several times but they always resurface. But it's not looking good for the yellow racer. The only problem I saw in a Racer review was some of the frets were uneven. So hopefully they're just making the proper adjustments and maybe they'll turn up again. Cuz these are certainly a lotta bang for your buck...
I just traded a soulless Yamaha acoustic and an unimpressive Crybaby Slash Wah for this guitar
I definitely won the trade 😊
I bought one like yours & it is as near perfect as I’ve ever seen the quality of neck& fretboard is fantastic & I love the pickups ,I’m having a problem with my hands & it’s helping me recover, the only setup change half round up on bottom of bridge, so good going to order a blue one to have for mods
Start a surf and hot rod band with this one.
There's a Bullfighter S-style guitar on Amazon, when you see it you'll know.
The yellow neck / headstock is amazing
I am sold love yellow buying one as we speak thanks love different and fun guitars you can just play and not worry about
The nut issue is so easy to fix.
I switched out the pickups to a pair of old black hot Deans and picked up a set of a black bridge and tailpiece on Amazon. It' looks so much better now! Great axe for the price.. Super weekend warrior bar banger.
wish they had more colors
Great review! Full disclosure: I'm an asshole that bought up 3 of them (one in each color) after I bought the first one and was just so impressed with it. They had a $40 coupon, so at only $170 each, I couldn't resist! All 3 showed up perfect, basically set up *ok* already, just needed a little fine tuning on the intonation. I'm always surprised to see guitar unboxing videos and playing before replacing whatever horrible strings must be on there. That's the first thing I do before even plugging in....
Such a beautiful machine!!! And I DO dig the extra bonus micro-phonic pickup "issue" - for how I play anyways! Finally,
GREAT NEWS FOLKS! Out of curiosity I messaged Westcreek a while back (after they sold out all 3 colors) and they responded, "this guitar are expected to arrive around November 13th!"
Nice! I wrote them and they never replied to me
I just got one the pickups are not microphonic and have 4 wires.
Ryan, that is a cool looking guitar - think it could use a 60 cycle hum overall? Crazy paint job (leave the racing stripe), little electronics upgrade maybe?? Either way, lovin' 60 cycle hum and the cool reviews!
I like the Westcreek Revenge I got recently. I put some decent tuners and some mid-priced pickups in it and am very pleased with the guitar.
I want to upgrade tuners on my Westcreek. What did you use? Thanks.
@@finemeat I got Grover tuners
Which color did you get? and if it happened to be the purple, is it more purple in real life than it is in the picture?
@@LiamSmall12 I got the red one.
Love the look. For the $ I would buy it.
I just got my Red Racer Today. Either I got lucky or they have stepped up their QC. My cowboy chords are spot on. ( I did notice some pinging while tuning) I lowered the bridge down some so I was 1.75 on the 12 fret low E and 1.5 on the High E. No buzzing or dead frets found. I did raised the Bridge pickups so they matched the volume of the Neck pickup. Paint job is flawless. I don't play extreme high gain so dont know if the pickups are microphonic but I'm replacing them with Humbucker sized P90s anyways.
They should at least re-release that color.
I have been trying to tell people that a reverse SG would look cool and they nailed that.
I watched on my phone, and despite the microphonic part, I thought those pickups sounded pretty good.
I’ve been wanting to try their DC model. Only $162 on Amazon.
I have an Italia Speedster, which has a similar color scheme and style. Unique body shape, too.
Experiment time: melt a little wax on the pickups and see if the microphonics goes away.
At least you can coil split them if you wanted to
It reminds me of my LTD Viper, but with all the cool mojo of being yellow with race stripes!
Someone at the ltd factory probably " hey man? What are we going to do with all these left over viper 100 bodies?"
Ooooo, fun😍. Wish there was a short scale version.
Upside down ltd viper in yellow?! Yes please!
i got the solid purple. nice frets but small fast neck inotated out of the box very nicely packed looked hard for blemishes couldn't find any. i like this baby, no black finger tips feels good
I got one in black with a white stripe. Only color available at the time.I like it in yellow the stripe goes through to the headstock. 👍
They’re back on Amazon…
I dig it and great idea with keeping the neck pup microphonic.
These are $175 for Black Friday
I honestly would really love to get one of these and upgrade the pickups
Its not orange peel, its banana peel!
Lol
That took me a second
Cool looking guitar. I would never have noticed that sound at the nut. If you didn't mention it. The microphonic kinda bugs me. Still a super looking guitar.
Im pleasantly surprised. A lot of low end guitars, while they may play well for the value, simply look like knockoffs - overuse of veneer, 6-7 pieces of wood for the body but refusing to use a solid color finish because they want to seem premium, super thick glossy poly finishes, and a schecter level of binding, fake pearl, questionable rosewood imitations, and fake abalone that's supposed to convey quality but really is just over-decorated and gross.
This one? Dark board (looks a lot better than the indian laurel I often see), tasteful, simple, and original inlays (really love the 12th fret one here), a unique shape, and a solid color paint job. It's loud but not too much visually, and outside of the headstock face design I don't think anything would need to be changed. Also it's quite novel to offset the SG the *other* way than is typical. Most offsets push the headstock further from you in a sitting position (or there are really big non-offset guitars that do the same like the explorer and firebird as well as the SG which has a much longer neck joint than a les paul). This one brings it closer, opposite what a usual SG would do. Love it.
Yeah it’s really fun! Hopefully they make more of these
@@60CycleHumcast Really liked how you described it as a hobbyist platform. I'm a hobbyist myself. Thankfully for my wallet they're out of stock right now.
Can there be any better reason to buy a guitar than it comes in a colour you don't already have? No, didn't think so :D
15:26 Surf-Doom!🔥🏄🏼
Lemon Drop yellow. I love it.
If you didnt ruin the nut the other day try Guitar Madness pickups, stick to the sets with steel baseplates. The Overwound Alnico 2 set is the Tonerider Rocksong set on paper, they're good. On eBone and Reverberate.
(BTW, scale length is measured on the high E--)
Yeah it's probably 24.75 scale length. But appreciate the info on the pups!
it's got a Mosrite underbite.
"I don't have any other yellow guitars right now!" he says as there's a yellow guitar over his right shoulder.
:)
ITS GOLD. GOLD IS DIFFERENT THAN YELLOW.
Wow, I am relatively impressed with this thing. Some wax potting would be a pretty easy fix to eliminate the microphonic feedback. Pretty cheap solution too, beeswax and paraffin both work. The pickups themselves actually sounded pretty decent.
I love cheap guitars like this, I own several now- my favorite score was an Arbor SG jr I picked up at a pawnshop for $70. It didn't need any work at all, cleaned it up a bit, threw some decent strings on, and it plays like a champ! Plays and sounds like guitars you would find in the $500 range, Epiphone, Squier, etc
Oh if you want to replace the pickups in this on a budget, get some (UK based) Entwistle HV58 pickups in there. They changed my life, Pickups that make SD look lazy and uncaring for a fraction of the cost. I now find it really hard to buy other brands for experiments because I know Entwistles leave so many brands in the dust , no I am not an affiliate.
Same body as the Harley Benton DC-580 CH Vintage Series
Almost bought one when you mentioned it in a previous video. Guess I should have.
I have noticed a lot of metric guitars have the 25" scale- 635mm.
Cost me 35 bucks to get the nut set up on my re neck fender and for how much work that is i would not think twice about fixing the nut issue for a student