Was The Players the BEST PGA TOUR event ever?
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Sorry for the slight audio issue! Will be fixed for the next episode!
bathroom echo 😂
got to remember to turn those mic's on! haha.
Love it when Sophie is on the channel. She's so well versed and well spoken about the game.
Loved Sophie's input. She added great perspective to the show!
We don't need a joint Ryder Cup!! Not everything has to be a joint thing!! Both Solheim Cup and Ryder Cup work great apart!!
Brian Harmon is sneaky and added to the drama, he gets lost in the mix. Short game is incredible.
Rick you’ve gotta check out the Cabot courses up here in Canada. Cabot Cliffs is the #1 ranked course in the country and Cabot Links is top 10
Always enjoy when Sophie is on the Show, Such a positive outlook on both the Men and Ladies game. Need to see her more in the future
Not sure I love the idea of the second podcast. Sometimes feels like you lads struggle to fill the full hour on a Monday. My only feedback would be, please dont let Monday podcast become 25 mins about "how was the weekend?"
Agreed... instead (Rick), you should be practicing. Get your "handicap" down to scratch so you'll get invited to PGA Qualifiers!!
Wasn’t H.I.T supposed to be weekly too? There hasn’t been a video uploaded in 5 months
Sorry to say but this podcast just dribbled along, don’t let a second one flounder - totally agree, be happier to see/hear less if the guys diverted their time to practice and getting back to their origins
Whuuut I enjoyed this one. Sophie’s insight is so interesting.
@@jayjay1drum1skate I enjoyed this podcast too. I listen to/watch them all. I'm just getting a bit fed up with the LIV chat every week. It gets repetitive and then the idea of an already repetitive podcast doing another short form podcast on a Friday concerns me for the content of the main weekly one. I think it's fair feedback. I'm not being an asshole about it lol.
“We need the PGAT to help the LPGA”…how about get more women to support women? That’s the problem. Women don’t watch/support sports at the same rate men do. That’s just the bottom line nobody wants to admit.
Personally, I think more men watch the LPGA than women do. I watch it and my golfing wife doesn't. I prefer the LPGA because their swings are pure and distances more relatable to my game than the freaks on the PGA Tour.
There's just no one on the LPGA who's brought that star power and hype, that charisma to go along with being a top notch player.
Also, it's a deep rooted problem in society that has led to this. Too much politics from the sports world has led to people tuning out, too much of athletes and broadcasters attempting to push their agendas and trying to lecture people on how they should think. People want to just get away from all that crap in the world and just watch sports.
Also plain and simple, women's sports just isn't as popular as men's and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's simply a matter of interest.
How many women are into fashion, makeup, etc. compared to men? There are endless hobbies and interests that differ between men and women.
Sports, with golf in particular, just isn't as appealing to women as it is to men, and again there's nothing wrong with this.
Well said. The USA womens soccer/football team were complaining about not getting paid as much as the men. It turned out the women are actually on a higher pay rate than the men. “It's because the men's World Cup generates $6 billion in revenue, the Women's World Cup generates $131 million in revenue. “If you want to talk about pay disparity, the Women's World Cup players get paid out 20 per cent of the total revenue. “The men get paid out seven per cent. I call for equal pay for men and women. Give the men a pay rise.
Another thing to consider is the substandard production value of Lpga, Champion's tour, European tour etc events. When you compare the quality of the cameras used for Pga tour events to the other tours, it's like the other tours are using 8mm video. I enjoy watching the women play, but I can't stand the low resolution cameras.
I do like the take on the PGA versus F1. Never thought of it that way. I agree PGA has too many tournaments and diminishes the importance of winning. Majors are the only ones that matter.
The audio quality absolutely first class I mean genuinely pure.
Sophie is great, glad to see her on
A lot of people don’t know, Phil Mickelson and ¿David Toms? Played a Shells Wonderful World of Golf episode at Citrus Farms formerly called World Woods Pine Barrens
I played that course at least 5 times , shame it's not there anymore . Rolling Oaks was my favorite of the two .
Sofie is great!! Enjoyed this podcast.
Enjoyed Sophie’s input as a guest
Just talking about golf is ok; it passes the time. I always enjoy getting new insights like Sophie talking about the caddie hand signals to the announcers. She's class!
I was really surprised Rick and Guy didn't know hand signals are used by the caddies. It is not always visible on the broadcast but watching the Texas Open today Scottie S got his club and you could see the caddie flash 5 fingers. Next thing you hear from the announcer was 'this is a 5 iron'
I loved the inside info from Sophie. Thank you
I really enjoyed the Matt/Alex Fitzpatrick episode of Full Swing. I've watched both series and that was one of my favourite ones.
30:33 So interesting about the hand signals. Im going to keep my eyes out and try spot it next time
Rick, Sophie adds so much to this format. Her presence first and foremost, but then her knowledge of the game makes her so appealing on this podcast format. If you guys are able to do this more often I do believe you would have a great product to offer. You guys mentioned in this podcast the need for men’s and women’s golf to be more complimentary of each other, you guys could literally do that with this format. She is very good at this.
I've long thought they should bring in a 3rd permanent host. Sophie or Iona would be amazing!
I'd like to see / hear a recreating of when Barry, Larry or Garry came up to Rick and goes.. "eh Rick, you know that round of golf in Sawgrass where you shot 69 and had a hole in one on 17, well, Its gone. I can't find it, so you'll just have to tell people you bridied 17 to make it more believable"
4.14 million watched the players final round. (75% men.) Get 5% of the viewer age women in the US to watch the LPGA and it would beat the men and you would get paid the most. (80m. So 4m weekly)
Women are causing the women not to get paid. But they have no problem watching the "reality drama" shows.
No... When a large swathe of the best golfers aren't in the tournament, it can never be the "best"...
Sophie is a fabulous guest. Always gives a great insight into various aspects of the game
Always wondered how commentators could call an iron selection from a player…….now it all makes sense…🤯. thanks Sophie
Would love to see Sophie do on course commentary for a full Break 75 video or 10 shot challenge! Would be a cool layer to the content.
More RickShielsGolfShow podcasts is always a good thing! I must say I’m dying for more H.I.T. content😢
Brilliant to see the amazing Sophie Walker back on the pod. Always fantastic and so insightful.
And I genuinely think she should mention Rory more often.
Sophie was amazing, as always! Really liked her insight on the caddie signals. Will change the way I watch golf.
The Players looked like a minor league event without 3 of the 5 last majors winners. I am ok with all these new PGAT winners this year. Why not just limit these PGAT events to American golfers? It is called the regional/national - Professional Golf Association of the country America after all.
The Players was great compared to the PGAT event where it looked like a beer bash - and some PGAT fans pissed themselves on TV/video.
Maybe the Players winners can at some point - earn spots on LIV/or whatever the new big money International Tours - pay? The Players doesn’t compare with Majors without top International Golfers all fairly ranked.
Hope golf tours start to collaborate & the world rankings are taken over by a new credible entity.😀
Foolish dribble from a LIV shill. The Players Championship this year was stacked with talent and tremendously entertaining. Five of the top seven finishers at The Players have each won one of the last nine majors played. Six of the last nine major winners were in the field. Add Shane Lowry, Morikawa & Woodland and you have nine major winners in the last five years. Only six major winners from the last five years currently play for LIV ... Mickelson, who is hardly playing world class golf now, is one of those six.
TPC Sawgrass has some of the best finishing holes (16, 17 & 18) I can think of. And, overall, the fans seemed pretty well behaved. I'm not a big fan of the 16th at Phoenix either. It reminds me of a LIV event.
I don't blame the likes of Rahm, Koepka, DJ, Cam Smith & Niemann for chasing the PIF money. But, those decisions by those players have fractured golf and watered down the fields everywhere.
@@patce999 Hey - Phil tied for 2nd in the last Masters. That is world class.
Like I said - present LIV players have won 3 of the last 5 Majors.
If the PGA players are playing more for tradition than money - why is the PGAT bothering to increase prizes at PGAT events? And why is PGAT not staying as a not for profit Charity Organization?
I think we can all agree - we at least don’t want to see drunken PGA fans pissing themselves at a PGAT event on television. I am just glad Jon Rahm didn’t have to see and play in that embarrassment/disgrace of the PGAT. I think that can be fixed via the LIV talks with PGAT players interests input. That has never happened at a LIV event - so your prejudice is pretty obvious. I am a fan of all golf tours including ones like the Canadian tour.
I would love to see the PGA (Professional Golf Association of America) fields restricted only to American Golfers. Why wouldn’t a Professional Golf of America not be just for promoting American Golfers? They are good enough.😀
There are plenty in the USA? Do you support taking away opportunities from American Golfers at PGA events and making the PGAT a profit seeking money grabbing tour now?😀 All pro golfers play for money, otherwise they remain as amateurs. Let the elite golfers like John Rahm, Phil, Cam Smith and perhaps - Rory looks like he might join LIV/International Tours to play against the best.
Rory says he wants to (he advocates a LIV merger right away) & there is no point in Rory playing against weaker PGA (only) competitors and only to be cut at the Masters, as what happened to him last year with his phoney #1 world ranking. Funny & interesting!
Rory played well in Europe last fall - when he was back amongst the great International players again. Rory certainly doesn’t deserve the abuse - of being a sacrificial lamb of PGA Executives that expense pro golf tours for personal gains. The best thing for golf is if Rory takes a $600 Million package with LIV right away.😀
The Players was good because the top players showed up, otherwise outside of the Majors, the regular PGA tour event is the perfect cure for insomnia...
Possibility your most interesting podcast yet
Absolutely best guest ever, very engaging and informing
Get her on as a permanent podcast host?? She's great.
This episode was one of the best so far!!👌
Just wish they'd figure out a way to get the LIV boys into a couple more tourneys a year, the majors are gonna pop off this year
Seriously...how can an event be best ever if 20 of the best players in the world were banned from playing?
Because they chose to leave? They weren't forced out. Plus, they wouldn't play Sunday, too many holes.
Fantastic podcast ❤
I thought Sophie had a good take on the LIV vs PGA. Shorter PGA season which would attract more sponsors and whoever wants to play more can play LIV as an exhibition extended season. LIV could actually land a TV deal and more folks would probably watch.
What about pairs competitions combining men and women from PGA and LPGA tours?
Podcast was brilliant back on top form 👍
Felt like Ludvig Åberg would’ve won the Players if he had putted better round2
That guy is a monster when he putts well
He is saving the putts for Augusta
@@danieljohansson7299 You mean to say, he hopes to win less money at Augusta (winner gets $3.25 million) than the Players (Scottie won $4.5 million)?
@@3nCounting less money, but it’s a Major and a Green Jacket. Do think most players would take a win at the Masters over Players, you still get allt of money. But also in this case, the Masters is Ludvigs goal this year
Stand corrected Rick. Great podcast after all!!
I’ve known the caddy signals for 30 years. I’m shocked they are just now learning that 😂
This is just an idea: for the team golf thing. why cant they make it more akin to F1. Have the teams based on the equipment manufacturers, if i love playing Callaway stuff and i see there is a Callaway team that can only use those products that would be very interesting. Team Taylormade and Callaway and Bridgestone all going at it to sign their favorite golfers and have them compete in team format would be incredible. They already sponser the golfers. This could also give incredible exposure into the R&D stuff, make it so some of the newest things these companies are working on can be used in the matches much like F1 upgrades happen mid season. dont make it as strict as a PGA event, make it more fun and interesting.
Completely agree. Plus, brands who want to get into the game like Malbon or Takomo Golf can have a buy in for a team and slowly they can expand. Really cool idea for winter golf.
Need a video on the caddy hand signals
I personally thought the pga coverage was terrible. Way too many commercials and they focused too much on the analysts. There would be 30 minute bouts where they didn’t show any golf just the announcers talking.
I assume this was American coverage? UK coverage was superb.
Scottie and Ted put God and family first above all else. That's why he's number one. Two of the best men in the game.
Tiger sure didn't and he was the best for over a decade and is considered by many the best to ever play. It's skill, not heavenly intervention.
I think golfers are keen to travel… as long as the prize money suits!
This was an excellent podcast!
sophie is wonderful, nice to see her on the podcast
Here is an idea to fix to PGA Tour/LIV dilemma. The biggest issue now is the separation of talent, too many events. Majors will have some extra excitement with the inclusion of some of the LIV guys. I would combine the tours, sell the LIV model teams to sponsors (akin to F1..team redbull etc.), Have a sort of split season with mostly the PGA Tour individual tournament model with Majors, etc. Then you have a short season of team golf and more fun type events (combo tours, skill based events, shootouts, etc). The logistics would need to be ironed out, but it could work out for the benefit of the players and the viewing public.
What do you do with the players that stayed? Can't NOT give them some type of cash out. I like this idea and would make winter golf tolerable, but I am curious how the overcome the money part (other than just give everyone a stack of cash because they can)
@@ben2942 Tough question. Not sure how they would navigate. If you give them some cash it somewhat evens out the whole LIV departure thing (to an extent). However one could argue that if they did not leave this might not have happened, so it is a tricky subject. I think that anyone on the tour who was offered a contract with LIV and turned it down (assuming they merge) would be compensated. Then when those things are sorted and feelings are dealt with, you move forward with the new tour.
Not sure if it’s me being new to golf or what it is but I need my weekly golf fix definitely not to many tournaments I look forward to Thursdays to start watching every tournament!
2024 predictions for the Majors: Rory won't win a Major, at least 2 (possibly 3) of the Majors will be won by a LIV golfer.
Sophie is great!
This is the first PGA tournament where I felt like missing the likes of Rahm, Bryson, DJ, Koepka, Cam Smith felt like a big loss. Felt like personalities were lacking. Especially with Spieth and JT etc struggling.
I actually felt the opposite. For me, this was so exciting that I didn't even think of any of them.
Ricks a great lad but that lid needs to say goodbye
The hand signals to show what club is being hit are the same as we used on the trading floor.
United! United! United! Proud day for Manchester United
Guys face when he learns about the signalling lol
GGMU RICKIE!
Always wonderful to see sofie!
For all the people that left for liv I honestly I don’t miss them others have just stepped up on the PGA tour
you can feel Rick and Guy's relief that PGAT finally had a decent tournament
How are Liv tournaments going? Getting more than 10,000 viewers watching at one time on RUclips?
@@joshramirez7 try just watching golf, there is room for both
The audio is how you say- bad?
Ehh, I'm not sure how I feel about the second podcast. The current pod feels a bit thin at times.
We will see if scheffler is any good at the majors. These pga tour rosters are terrible
More people watch this podcast than Liv golf 😂
Is that you Guy ?
No this wasn't the BEST PGA tour event ever because it didn't include the world's best players!! No Rahm, no Koepka, no Smith, no DeChambeau, etc. the PGA is ruining itself in a pissing contest between Norman, Mickelson and Monahan!! The LPGA is able to work with the PIF!! The Aramco Team Series sponsored by PIF offers Rolex World Ranking points and Solheim Cup points to the INDIVIDUAL players AND doesn't make the ladies choose between the LPGA and the Aramco Team Series!! Get it together MEN!!
Just shave it off Rick. The time has come
A men and women's scramble pairs would be great to watch.
Ratings would blow
A men's/women's ryder cup feel would be amazing for the sport. We all know Nelly/Lexi, but this would add something for those that are playing crazy good golf but not a household name.
What about the scandinavian mixed? It's literally a mixed comp between men and women and is part of the dp world tour.
It was a great The Players, no * needed close to the winner's name (that's ridiculous), BUT let's not be blind - the likes of Jon Rahm, Brooks Koepka, Cam Smith, Bryson Dechambeu, Patrick Reed, Joaquin Newman, DJ, etc… like them or not, would have included all the current best players in the world in the same tournament… would Scottie had won anyway? Why not… maybe and probably yes… but the true is that not all the best players were in the competition. And that's a fact
That was their decision
@@jerryky2580 did I say anything about why they were not playing?? I'm not discussing who decided to leave and the consequences… the after-fact is: that not all the best players in the world were in the competition. Period. Any PGA or LIV fanboy (both pathetic in my humble opinion) can admit that neither the PGA nor the LIV have all the best players in the world competing against each other (not even in the majors). That’s it.
What’s with the audio? Sounds like there’s no point in Rick and Guy holding those mics
Dude... they're in an untreated room with hard surfaces and glass. They're at a golf course clubhouse and not in a sound-proofed and treated studio.
What is your thoughts on scandinavian mixed? 50% of the fields are women and 50 is men playing at the same time. Last year Linn won. i do think it is a very good event on the dp/Let tour
If Clarke had left the flag in on 18 like Mygolfspy has proved you should that put would have gone in
The second season of full swing was just not as good as the first unfortunately. I hope 3rd season if there is one will get better or back to how awesome the first one was. Also love the idea of an extra podcast!!
Er excuse me Friday is a break 75 day!!!!
It cannot be the best ever, not all the best allowed to play. It’s true you can only beat the field but currently some of the best are banned.
C'mon United 😍
The team Golf element in Liv Golf is pathetic. It has no gravitas or meaning at all. They’re actually isn’t any team element to it other than the team scores being put together at the end of the tournament and a calculation being done. It reminds me of junior school when used to have a group of friends and you come up with a name for your gang. at the end of the day, Golf in its purist form, is not a team sport other other than the Ryder Cup, which has history and maybe the president cup ,any other effort to create team events in professional Golf is as engaging as watching paint dry. golf needs to try and replicate events like this weeks players championship in recent times. This has been all too lacking.
Apologies for the grammar. Still trying to get the hand of dictating!
Rick, your channel and brand was built on golf lessons and golf product reviews. Now you have so many products that it’s over kill. This new podcast idea doesn’t excite much… when you built your studio, that was exciting, yet you don’t post much that channel. We are losing track of all you’re producing that it’s no longer attractive.
No hats in the clubhouse? good to see
love Sophie but how can any women's sport get paid the same as the men its impossible there is not as much people watching so that knocks on to tv money and so on if the LPGA paid the same for one year it would be broke in months
What do you think to LIV going to JCB?
Another podcast ?? Not sure I'm on board with it? Id rather see you do more on the HIT channel. I don't think you've scratched the surface with what you could do in there.
If your doing another podcast it would need to be a 20 min thing. Though I'm not sure why you couldn't just do upcoming events in the regular podcast etc. Less LiV bashing would give you more time.
This is anecdotal obviously but the youngest ladies that I see playing at my club are in their 40s.
Most younger women are raising kids or getting flown out and ran through
Definitely needed some soft surfaces in that room, the audio made this unlistenable.
Never .. golf at the moment is all over the place if you can’t see that you are not qualified ✌️
Don't like the idea of LPGA following PGA Tour at any course. A tournament beats up a course as it is. From all the divots and the crowd trampling down the rough, the course needs time to recover after a tournament. Not really fair to the ladies to have them go round after the men and deal with those conditions.
What’s going on with HIT? Nothing on there for 5 months
Why don´t have a couple of Team events in the PGA where everybody from different tours are invited and can compete. I would love a Team Nordic with Hovland, Åberg, Höjgaard & Valimaki. That would be absolutely great to see and I guess the americans could come up with a few fantastic teams as would other nationalities. Just a thought!
While I could see it working a little. 75% viewers are men. This may get a small percentage of men watching LPGA. How do you get the women demo to watch women's sports? That's the real question.
A second podcast... hopefully ypu use that more than you use HIT channel. I personally would prefer more product in one place rather than chasing around youtube hole.
Next will be another channel just for the break 75 series or pro games
The headline asks a pretty dumb Question....which might actually b be true,............ unless you have been watching Liv Golf
I wonder how many LIV players secretly wish they were still playing the signature pga tour events.
Glory Man U!
Who do you think your fooling holding those mics we know they don’t work 🤣
Sophie is excellent watch her videos