CFMOTO CFORCE Clutch Bearing & Shifter Issue Fix After Going Too Deep!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2021
- In this video we talk about a issue that we have noticed a few people experience with their CFORCE ATV.. Either the cforce 600 cforce 800 or even the 500 and 400 model could experience this. If your secondary clutch is engaging at idle or that your primary clutch is squealing or if your not able to shift sometimes; watch this video and we will show you what the problem most likely is and how to fix it. In this video specifically is a 2021 cforce 800.
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This was a great video. I have learned a lot. I just started having this issue right after I put on a new belt. Now because of you guys experiencing this issue and fixing the problem helped me alot. Thanks for the knowledge. Keep posting videos like this. This helps avoid going to the shop and paying alot of money.
I love how easy the clutch cover comes off, and how quickly serviceable the clutches are on these. I’ve had a few can am’s and they require special tools
Love these videos Blake, thank you, and kudos to Joel too.
I’ve been watching you guys from above the 49th parallel here in Ontario, Canada. You have made me seriously lean towards Cfmoto when considering a new ATV purchase. My current ‘88 Moto 4 Yamaha 225 (2wd) quad will need to be replaced at some point … and the 2021 Cforce 800 XC EPS LX in orange has definitely caught my eye!
The more I watch your videos … the more confirmation I feel about going with this brand. You are presenting and representing CFMOTO really well. Congrats on that. You’ve won me over.
Just waiting for the right timing to take the plunge into the new quad world. I may even do an online review when I do!
Keep the videos coming guys.
Love this stuff!
From a pal in the North.
Joel
It is great to hear from you Joel! I hope it works out to where you can get one soon!
Just did the exact same thing to that skid plate today, thankfully my son was following and saw it and I was able to tear it off the last bolt holding it, preventing what could of been a disaster later in the day while taking my 800XC boating
Excellent video -- thanks for sharing! You guys have really refined your videos and shown every aspect of how to do stuff -- much appreciated! 🙂
Thanks for continuing to tell us the size of the nuts & which way the threads are
Thanks for the video, taught me a bunch about my bike and gave me the “how to” to attempt work on mine. Very informative and greatly appreciated guys.
Glad we could help bro!!
Another great informative vid. Love the accessibility of the clutches on these machines.
Thanks 👍
Such a great video I just bought the 1000 and dis the same thing couldent figure out why that clutch was squealing ! Thanks guys 100 percent the issue snorkel kit for sure lol
Lubie Wasz Kanał! Dobre Filmy duzo sie ucze mam cf 625s 2022, Pozdrawiam z Polski
Thanks so much needed this for my cf moto 500 I purchased couple weeks ago very helpful !!! I’m going to try to clean bearings out first tho before purchased a new one pretty expensive lol
Very helpful, Thank you from Lebanon 🇱🇧
You are welcome!
Thanks I was confused didn’t know what my problem was with my transmission
Grazie per le chiare istruzioni di manutenzione.
Thanks for the videos and effort you put into them… and you might’ve answered this already, but I didn’t read all the comments, what products did you use to clean the belt housing and pulleys?
great video man! thanks for sharing
My daughters can am 450 bolt on secondary clutch sheared off just taking the machine out of the garage. The secondary clutch comes apart in several pieces and would be nice if can am made it simple like cf moto. The more I see cfmoto videos the more im leaning in getting one. I have a 2019 can am Outlander Max 2 up, 2020 450 Outlander can am and A 2021 450 Yamaha Kodiak. Each has had multiple problems. I looked at CF moto saw they had lot more options but I did not know the brand very well so I went with the brands that I did know. I probably would have had better chances of buying a family of CF motos. Our riding is just easy trails here in Colorado we don't ride aggressive just put around the trails and enjoy the scenery. Great video thank you for sharing. Love the channel.
I just bought a 24 1000 overland and I’m loving it so far. Definitely should get one
This was a great video 👍
Thanks for sharing let's see some hope ups on the uforce 600
Great video!.. but at first i thought you guys had a fix for the jerky throttle, good thing i waited to watch the video before attempting a back flip!I 😅
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Thanks heaps for that mate. Bloody rippa and very helpful
Thanks Brothers, GRACIAS HERMANO
Muy bien explicado gracias por su apoyo
I might have to second guess you taking my four wheeler to the mud park now 🤔🤔
But definitely was a good how to video to have out there so I will let it slide 😂
Thanks baby I will be sure to take care of it till I get my cforce 1000
HAHA , getting called out , love it , lol. I read that after he gets the 1000 he doest have to take care of it anymore , lol.
Lesson here folks... ATV for mud and trails.. jet ski is for water. 😂😂
😆😂 yes this is true
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Not the videos I watch it seems most people use them as submarines. Water holes are hard on any ATV that shit will find a way in sooner or later trust me...
I thought they were boats
Love my cfmoto but, for positive pressure release they could mount that way up higher. It just has to be slightly below the height of the intake port
Great vide and thank you for sharing !,
Thank you
Hey dude, don't know if anyone commented it before-- the way you remove the bearing from the primary pulley, it would damage the pulley conical surface, which is designed for belt and pulley power transmission.
Great video
Thank u
Hey do you know what if the one way bearing is in good condition but the left vario is still spining ? Thank you ! Btw great video !
Great vid.How deep in muddy water can you go into before the positive outlet is submerged please? Trying to prevent this from happening again to me.
Hello,
Thank you for your videos, very interesting and helpful,
I need you help on a problem that i have with my zforce 950 sport belt, belts keep burning almost every ether ride, can you please can you advise
Thank you
great video thanks, one question, this one way bearing cause some relocking noise when engine speed is near by drive speed (like cases down hill and having some throttle), is this normal hearing relocking noise?
Hey do you know if the one way bearing for the 600 looks similar to the bearing in this video? I just took my one way bearing off today and it looks like one side is sealed only
@Real Talk Powersports I have a 2020 CF 500 and needing a new bearing but I bought a one way bearing and it seemed not to work. So my dad figured it would be the two way bearing. Now I’m not sure which to go for.
Great presentation Blake and Joel. Question that tool that Joel used to separate the secondary clutch what kind of tool was that and can you give us the part number so we can order it. Thanks. Keep them coming. Stay safe.
Thanks Tony.. I dont know the part number.. but MSC does sell them.. they will be opened back up this coming Monday and you can call and get one
I will say I am a Polaris guy but I go to CV tech on clutches they make a hell a good clutch for mudding or general use I put their 32 kit and trail block clutch on a 900 xp rzr and it would sling the heck outa some 32s
2 things I would have done differently for the video... 1.) Explain why when after Joel installs the secondary and belt and removes the tool from the secondary why he spun it backwards...and always properly torque the nuts and bolts holding the clutch on....otherwise, nicely done!
Thanks for the tips!
Yea about 3 Uggaduggas gets the job done every time with the right Impact.
@@RealTalkPowersports Keep on keeping on...I enjoy your videos...! great job!
Good video
Thank you! I appreciate u
Thanks for this video. Can't express enough how helpful this video has been to me. I have a 2021 Cfmoto 500s my daughter rides. The machine does not skip a beat. Goes everywhere my Polaris 850 does. Didn't have a single issue with it until a friend of ours completed ask to ride it and buried it in a large puddle. He hydro locked the engine and made a mess intake and crankcase. After removing the spark plug and pumping the water out via the started the engine fired right up (GO CFMOTO!). I'm on my 5th oil change and still getting water out of the crankcase. But that another story. You mentioned the CForce 500 has a one way bearing unlike your 800, and yes it's about $140. I'm new to one way bearings. Is just the inside notched section supposed to spin? Is it supposed to spin in both directions? Does the new one need to be greased/lubed at install? Lastly how do I know what direction to put it in. I did not see an arrow indicators on the one I took out.
I have a 2021 cfmoto cforce 500 and was trying to figure out which one my one way bearing goes on. Does it spin clockwise or counter clockwise? If you know or somebody else please let me know thanks.
Did you guys figure out which way that bearing goes?
I got a 2018 cforce 500s
Doing the bearing today
@@RR-po7eb outer race should lock when turning clockwise. At least that’s what I had written down. I actually called cfmoto’s HQ and spoke to a tech. He was very helpful.
your suppose to press the break pedal at all times when u shift to be 100 % sure the belt isnt turning while shifting :P so i dont think u need to turn it off . just start using the foot break like your suppose to do
No... the bearing being bad has the secondary turning keeping you from shifting, nothing to do with food brake
Just bought a 1000 and have read in a few places to start bike in neutral not park is this true and can you explain why not park? Thanks guys!! Love the videos sooo helpfull!!!
Ive never heard that one before.. I crank it up in any gear.. just have to hold the brake to fire it up when not in park or neutral
Is the primary and secondary nuts the same on all the cfmoto machines? Gotta change the belt on 2020 cforce 500s
have you guys seen issues with the belts wearing through the clutch cover. both bottom and top center portions of my clutch cover have worn down to the seal thanks to belt deflection
Hey Blake I was wondering if you guys are going to do some research on if you can replace the one way bearing on the 400,500 or 600 with the bearing from the 800 as long as the inner diameter is the same. Keep up the great work
I believe on the 600 you can take out the one way bearing part of the bearing. I will be doing this to mine this week sometime.
@HeyItsAsmus I looked at doing this on my gen 2 500, I didn't see a way to disassemble the bearing. It has a 1 way sprag in the middle.
On a 400 does the bearing on the clutch go clockwise or the other way thanks great video
what brand transmission belt do you use/ recommend?
Hello. I have one question plz. Is it OK to change one way bearing with two way bearing?
Hello, Im watching you guys from Mazatlán, Mexico, I have a cfmoto 520 L, and it has a one way bearing. ¿Which way should be spinning?
¿Clockwise or anticlockwise?
Is it possible to take the one way tangs out of the 600 bearing or do they have a 2 way bearing for the 600?
Is there a drain plug on cfmoto to possibly prevent that like on Polaris machines
If I wanna to get rid of that one way bearing on CF500 (no need for engine braking) , is it possible to order normal bearing? Would fit that one from CF800 or that some model that don't use one way bearing?
is it possible to change the onewaybearing to "normal" or is it essential in the smaller machines?
For what are these spacers? The plastic one and the metal one. Thanks!
Hey hope you reply. If I was to go to a 28” tire on zforce 800 trail, would I need to upgrade clutch? Not worried about top end. More climbing. Thanks
I believe you would be just fine with the stock setup as long as you keep it in low gear everytime you go to climb a hill or put it under any kind of load or bind..
But the clutch upgrade will help if you want it for sure.
By any chance do you know what size they clutch nuts and bolts are on a 2017 CF Moto z Force 800EX with power steering for the primary and secondary
Hay if im just reclocking the secondary do i have to take primary off to do so ?
The "rattle" when reved is normal? Mine does that, is that the weights that im hearing? I just recently flooded my box too, and replaced my belt.
Awesome video
Your the man
Have you guys ever seen the spring stuck inside the primary sheave? If so how do you remove safely? Thanks
Can you put a one way bearing on a 800 instead to get engine braking on the machine?
Do you need a new gasket/sealant on the gasket every time you open up or are servicing the CVT?
No sir.. just inspect it and make sure it’s in the groove correctly
With my 520 is the problem for the bearing too much dust (drive in very dry and dusty area), must regularly open and make everything clean.
How do you solve the squeaking brakes? That annoys me tremendously.
CRC disc brake quiet.
I have a cf 1000 there is a jump after coming into it just as you take off have you come across this
Don’t no if you can help me buddy but I have cforce 550 /600 us I have a wining noise changed the secondary and one way bearing and noise still there it’s on revo going or idle soon as you let rev of terrible wing from secondary but now it’s brand new only thing not changed is the belt! Also does the one way bearing go clockwise or anti-clockwise on the shaft hope you here from you no one in the uk has a clue
I'm still learning about these so please don't drill me. But I want to know if you can put a two-way bearing on the cforce 600? If so, is there a model number for that bearing I can use to look up?
That is a Great question.. I personally have wondered the same.. we will look into that a little deeper for more bearing options
Blake,
Is it possible for you or Joel to talk about the diffences between the A,B and C settings in rebuilding a clutch. I have watched all kinds of video's and read everything i can find. I just know why evrything i have watched Airdam allways suggest setting at B3.
B3 is the best setting for MOST people that go with Bigger tires. Thats why we use that setting and also why airdam suggest it as well.
But yes maybe we can do another clutch video with more details
How do I release its primary internal pulley, the one on the inside belt that grips the crankshaft?
I get a little squeak every now & then but never a shifting problem on my 400 after i took him deep
hola que tal buena tarde yo tengo un problema con la 500 no puedo retirar el tornilo de la polea me podrias orientar en como hacerlo ya vi varios videos pero no puedo
What if the secondary does not spin at all when giving it throttle in drive? Primary spins.
I have a 550 the front clutch hub nuts are centre nut undoes clockwise backnut anticlockwise to remove found out the hardway what's your video it was the other way around
Help!! I have a 2024 Cforce 500 had the same problem except my bearing seemed to be okay so I took out my one way bearing and still the same thing loud squeal and no shift.
I have the same problem with my 22’ CForce 600. It’s not making any sound, filled the belt case with water. Where can I buy that bearing?
Ok so I have this problem on my 2023 800 Cforce , right down to the the skid plate 😂 but here is my actual question.. I cannot get the the first bolt off on my primary. Even tried to use a a 32mm wrench and breaker bar with the 18mm and cannot get it to louse. Any Suggestions? (Yes I did note It is Righty Lousy)
I have brand new 600 touring what should rpm idle be at?
mine 1800rpm shakes n vibrates at
6-8mph? also anyone put gun racks on if so what brand?
I definitely appreciate the video but I'm slowly learning that there r a ton of small issues with these machines. I wasn't even in three quarters of the tires deep I mud and this machine did the same thing. Smh, my wife can am 450 with smaller tires had no problem but not this. Cfmoto needs to either fix this problem or lose customer as word gets around
Hello Guys, can somebody tell me whether a can am (Outlander/Renegade) 850/1000 drive belt also fits on a cforce 850/1000? both have the CVTech clutch. thank you and best regards from Germany.
Yes cfmoto 600 520 ✌️👍😎
My 2020 600 keeps heating up and I can’t find the problem? Any suggestions?
Hey Blake question when I turn off my cforce 400 there is a loud squealing noise could this be the one way bearing aswell
It could be that or for sure something in the CVT
What's the little t-shaped tool that you put on the secondary pulley for?
To spread the secondary in order to loosen the belt
So after 15 miles of riding, my 950 sport is doing this same exact thing except my machine has never seen water. It was just really dusty. Would that dust cause the same problem? And because it never got submerged, would the warranty cover it?
Daniel i would recommend letting your local shop take a look at it.. you should be covered under warranty if the dealer can find the issue and not see any foul play.
@@RealTalkPowersports Thank you so much!
Awesome video 🙌 thanks for the how to Blake and Joel. Very much appreciated
Man yea bro!! Thanks for your support man
Hope we get to all ride together soon
@@RealTalkPowersports find the beeper and cut the wires to it! Awesome quad but beeper is annoying
Find the beeper and cut the wires or unsolder them from whatever! Awesome quad, beeper is annoying
I agree.. its time to do a video showing how to do that
@@RealTalkPowersports please post a video showing how to get rid if the beeper Blake.
Is there a torque spec for the clutches?
Does anyone if all models CFORCE 450 L comes on driven pulley with an standard adjusting shim? Because mine was serviced by dealer and it seems someone lost my little washer.
my brute ha never had that issue since 05 stock belt ive been thru long deep puddles. it drains
Where do you guys get your parts??
If its a one way bearing which direction should the bearing spin
What tires do you have on your 800? I’m looking for tires for mine and they are sexy!!
Where do you get the clutch spreader?
We’re can I look for getting a snorkel for my cf600
Where did you purchase your bearing from?
Main Street cycle..
They have all cfmoto oem parts
Do they come with a cccp red star?
What's the certain way to install a one way bearing?
Blake, what exhaust is on it?
Rjwc mud edition exhaust from MSC
Im getting ready to move from NC to Maine so i looked up their laws on ATV's and Side by Sides. In the state of Maine you are not allowed to snorkle any off road vehicle. Why would a state say you cant snorkle a ATV or Side by Side??
What tires are on the machine ?
Ok what is my cforce 500 has a loud ticking sound coming from the secondary clutch