Building hi-tensile fence from beginning to end.
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2020
- Building hi-tensile fence from beginning to end. There is no other fencing type that equals hi-tensile fence in cost and low labor to install. For more grazing tips, check out my books on our website: greenpasturesfarm.net.
This was a great lesson!! As usual, thanks so much for all the helpful information.God Bless Ben and Isaac. We only need 5 million more young people like them.
Amen to that!!
Mr. Judy you are such a generous person. I can’t belive the extreme detail about “procesus”. There are people out there asking for money for the knowledge you share. God bless you!
Agreed God bless you
Greg thanks for making a video where you took enough time to show us how to get it done right.
A coach is someone who saves you a life time of learning the hard way. That is exactly what you’ve done here
Outstanding video!!
Thank you!
Andy
reading about it and seeing it are 2 different things. Seeing the mistakes is invaluable. Seeing the high tensile wire bind because the soft wire wasn't twisted, seeing the wire sag after being tightened to know where to put a post in.......these are the gold nuggets that make a HUGE difference in learning the techniques. Thank you so much for this.
This is the best fencing video on RUclips. I wish this was done six months ago. God bless you Greg, Jan, Ben, and Isaac!
Great to see more and more people are seeing the benefits of high tensile wire fencing. Different installation process but as you say, saves you labor and maintenance down the road.
Thank you so much! I enjoyed that it was start to finish no editing and showed the mistakes so we all got to learn onsite from you and your years of experience!
THIS. Is HUGELY helpful to see in action. thanks guys!
Your videos are so informative, inspiring, and entertaining. Thank you
Thoroughly enjoyed this, Mr Judy. Priceless.
This is perfect timing for me. Thanks for everything! Have a great day!
Hi Greg! I got my perimeter fence project done. Purchased all of my posts from you a few months ago. One thing I started doing after I was over half way done is tying my soft wire with tie/twist opposite the cow side of the fence. Just thought that would eliminate the possibility of poking an eye or cutting an animal. Hope all is well! My fence turned out fantastic!
Good idea, thanks!
great idea!
I've ordered your no risk ranching book a few days back! Mighty excited to get it! You could call the European style fencing, since we don't yet have timeless posts. This video is a nice summary on how to put up fencing! Thanks
Thank you for the tutorial! We plan to install fence in one month.
Another high quality job by Isaac an Ben!
Thanks Greg, I've done plenty of fencing, but never with HT wire. NOW I get it!
Hi Greg, if you take your handle, after you've made your hangman knot, and turn it at 90⁰ to the direction in which you made the knot it will snap off clean and you won't need to cut it with pliers nor have a sharp edge thereafter.
Yes I have done that many times. I need to teach Ben and Issac that technique. Thanks for the reminder!!
This was immensely helpful, thank you!
Great job guys.👍
That’s awesome. Thanks for showing us how you do it.
I just finished today with my 6 wire high tensile fence project. I took your advice and bought the timeless posts, there were great to install! We pulled 32,000 ft of wire! Man it was hard work but it will be worth it hopefully no more chasing goats haha. Thanks for all the advice you have helped me more than you will ever know
From ground 6,6,6,6,8,10
I give updates on my RUclips channel every few weeks on the goats and fencing and such, I encourage you to check it out thanks
Thank you for sharing knowledge from experience it's so appreciated
Absolutely perfect video
Best drill ! Love their products.
The tips in this video are worth the 30 minutes of time to watch!
After watching your fence videos, it amazes me watching these other ranchers killing themselves with all these crazy fence contraptions and gadgets. Lol
Doesn’t make any sense for them to be doing that. Change is hard to make for folks.
Fantastic! The older I get the more I hate crimping fence. I wish we could drive posts 4 feet in the ground. We average 12-18" dirt above rock so we are stuck with building traditional bracing. But, rather do that then sit in a office all day. Mark
Always the best!!!!
So much wisdom in this video! Thanks for showing us the ropes!!!
I filled up the tensioners before too when I started out. My solution, as cheap as the tensioners were, was to just cut the fence again and add a second tensioner. Wouldn't be feasible too many times but it's a fast and easy solution.
You sound like the best guy to work for.
Thank you !
Fascinating!
Great job
I believe that Plastic Innovation (Timeless Fence company) still has lots of 170,000 psi wire in the 4000ft rolls. It's all I use, stays tight even when a tree falls on it and easy to work with.
Thanks, Greg! Gotta do this on the land we bought last year. Great tutorial...will try to do it just like you showed us!
Great tips
Greg, thank you for the awesome video with incredibly useful information! I'm about to out in a perimeter sheep fence on 10 acres. I like those timeless t-posts but I'm worried my string trimmer will chew right through that pvc. I have ruined a cheap tractor supply step in post that way and wondered if it would just be better to go with wood posts?
Hey Greg, where do you buy your 1" fiberglass rod? Everywhere I've looked they're about $40 a piece. At that price wouldn't it be cheaper to just drive a $5, 6' T-post in the ground the same depth?
Great stuff! I know you said in a previous video that you used to pasture bucking horses when you first started out. Will the 29.5" line keep in horses as well, or do you need a bigger fence? My Dad and I have put in a lot of work to try and put in 5 strand electric fence for his horses, and I'm just curious if the timeless post with the one strand works for them too. It would definitely be a lot easier!
If there’s a tree line and brush growing along the perimeter of the property’s boundary line, do you recommend clearing the brush and trees right on the property line to build perimeter fence or offsetting the fence into the field to avoid clearing the the brush and trees? Thank you in advance for your reply.
Hello, thanks for the great videos! I have a basic question, for managing sheep do you like to use the high tensile wire or the poly braid or both and why? Thanks again!
good look'in set of pliers....😎
I'm must getting started in every sense of the word re raising cows. I wish you had shown the post driving, but you pbly do in another video -- or maybe the book covers it well
Great video! One thing I’ll mention to ya and maybe you’ve already done this but could you drive the four wheeler along the fence with the spinning Jenny on the four wheeler and just set the wire on the right side of each post as you go around the corners? Or maybe you just enjoy watching Ben and Isaac work hard!!!😂 anyway keep up the good work guys!!
We normally pull the wire on the spinning Jenny with the Atv. We leave the spinning Jenny sitting on the ground it is much easier to control. On short runs we just pull it by hand.
Hey Greg got another question for ya too. I was wondering if you worry about grass finishing steers going through winter and maybe not gaining enough to make them marble good enough to have a great eating experience? I’m up in Minnesota and that’s a challenge of mine I got my steers separated from the cow herd now and feeding them silage bales and some other good high quality dry hay. But it would be way easier to leave them with the cows. What I’m getting at is how would the meat turn out if you kept the steers with the cow herd and they didn’t gain through winter and you waited till mid summer to slaughter when they gained good weight every day for 60+ days or so? Maybe that’s a video you could cover? Thanks Greg for all the great Information you share with us!!
I've got rigid tools as well.. The torque on that drill can break your arm if you are not careful! There is another smaller drill that I use for lighter projects like yours...
Great content as usual with all of your videos. Question, how do you manage your cattle in this paddock since it’s adjacent to a hunting property? Do you simply know when they will be on site hunting and thus move the cattle elsewhere? Do you ever have issues with poachers on your land being that there’s a plethora of biodiversity and fauna? Thank you sir.
Hey Greg, what kind of paint do you use for UV protection on your fiberglass posts?
There's a 'drill a hole' mode on the drill next to the 'drive a screw' setting you are using 👍
Hi Mr Judy,
I sure love your videos. So would you use this type of fence as your main perimeter? What if near a road? Also, do I not need to build h braces for the corners? I see the h braces on the timeless fence website I think. Fence looks great. Thanks,
Matt
That was awesome!
The other day I build a 100 yard high tensile single strand fence and I went through a thick ceder and birch stand. I brushed the trail and used screw in insulators on all the trees I needed, and slapped boards on the trees for the end posts, used an inline insulator at the ends and a ratchet strainer. I didn't use a single post, just $30 worth of insulators
You will be going through again every 2 years to untwist the insulators and prevent them from getting completely gobbled up by the trees, dont ask me how i know.
Great video Greg! Thank you! What type of wire is the soft galvanized? What gauge? Needs to be the same metal type as the hi-tensile right?
Greg uses 12 gauge soft galvanized. He likes 180 psi for the fence. You can tie a know with 180 psi, you cannot with 200 psi. Their is a variety of soft galvanized less than 180 psi to use as fence ties.
Thank you so much for your timely reply! Would you think that I could get buy on wire rated for 170,000 psi? If so does that mean that it is easier to break or I can't stretch it so tight?
170,000 psi wire is awesome wire to work with. It will do everything you need it to do. Get it from Timeless Fence or Powerflex
Sir greg what is the height of the fiber post and height of the high tensile wire ? How many acres if you use a electric fence energiser to accomodate ?
Question: if you had used the timeless posts as corners, they wouldn’t be 4’ deep in the ground, correct? So would they hold up against the strain of the tensioning process? Or would the wire not go through the pre drilled holes, just the soft wire to hold the high tensile wire to the post? Hope that makes sense.
There are some blue handled 9 inch Klines. We call the pliers Klines.
Where do you get the 1" fiberglass posts?
Manual or electric post driver? Where do I find these posts? Do you have a vid on charging the line after?
Mr.Judy you say not to drive the line posts until you get it tight, but this is using fiberglass for the line posts, what about with the timeless pre drilled posts where the wire is passed through the holes? Thank you , great video
We use a tight string to get our fenceline straight when using Timeless posts.
Those were wooden posts? Couldn’t quite tell, figured with the hole drilled it would be but could you use wood or metal?
great rancher,i want to know where your ranch located. its plant and climate looks like in the subtropical area.😄
I envision pulling that, three reels, and each end caught up on the back of the Honda by 6 foot rope slings, with a line man's grip on each, old timers calal them come along. We call what you call a come along, we call it a hoist. If you go through trees, you can walk rope through your run, and twist a loop in each wire, a loop in the rope, smooth to go through snatch blocks, a block at each angle, you want to be ready to catch tension at the reels, pull in 3 conductors, or fence wires, however many. When you get close, have rope slings with grips to catch off the ends at the reel, lineman grips on the slings, and you can catch off 2 wires at the pulling end, tension one wire with a hoist or the Honda, get it close, and I recommend a hoist to pull it the last tension, then dead end one at a time.
Would this be considered for a perimeter sheep fence.I can’t believe those 1 inch post you used in the corner are taking that pressures.
Thanks
Jeff Tennessee
Has anyone found a local source for these 1" fiberglass post and 2.5" corner post in North Carolina. I have an irregular shaped farm and I am looking at 13 corners that I need to install for perimeter 5 wire fencing. I am in need if some very cost effective soultions and ideas. God Bless!!!!
Ridgid is good stuff. All I use!
Do you need solid fiberglass posts or could you use foam filled posts on a fence like this?
Foam filled posts would work
What's the longest distance you'd try to pull a wire a with a few corners in it?
I've done 700 yards using a Jenny like Greg's, going through timeless line posts (through the holes), 5 slight corners (when combined made a 90 degree corner), and 2 big grade changes. I pulled it myself...not easy, but doable
Do you still drive your corners first when using the timeless t posts for line posts?
Yes
I would have pulled all my slack out by hand and then bent the wire, that would save you from all the wire rolling up on the spool before your wire gets tight.
Great video. Is this fence reflective of your perimeter fencing around an entire property?
Some properties that border roads, we mostly have 5 wire hi- tensile electric fence.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher So for inner boundaries near woods and creeks are you just running the single wire like on the video. When is the 5 wire versus 1 wire set up? I grew up laying 5 barbed wired fences everywhere
Thank you. Why wouldn’t you drill the holes in the fiberglass rods at a slight angle? It would solve two problems. I’m sure there is a reason you don’t.
Hey Greg Judy or anyone else who can answer, I assume 5 strands of this is sufficient to keep your livestock guardian dogs from escaping? Thanks!
Thank you Greg - what guage would you say that Soft Galvanized wire is?
12.5 gauge
What do you use for tick repellent
I've seen poorly constructed fence with timeless posts. Using this method of adding line posts after tensioning, if your using timeless posts I guess your line posts would be tied to the wire the same as the way you were doing your corners with the soft flexible wire?
On your post that bind up on the soft wire. What if you drilled your holes at a slant ?
Great idea, I will definitely try that, your awesome!!!
Do you have a video on fixing a break in hi tensile fence?? what about using lifetime post's with barbed wire?
Need to make one covering that, thanks!
problem i have where i am is that it gets so dry in the summer that the ground goes bad, so you have to run two strands.
If there's still slack and the tensioner is full, cant you move the posts to take the slack out?
You could do that.
I’m guessing the fiberglass post have enough give so that you don’t have to use a spring?
That is correct
I notice you guys don't do the slip knot before wrapping the wire like a lot of people do for terminations. This looks cleaner, but is it just as good? I'm wondering why most seem to do it differently.
What height do you recommend for sheep on the bottom wire an interior fence like this one? Thank you.
7” height
Where are you'll located...would love to take a tour with Isach and Ben...lol attaboy!!!!
What is the cost of the fiber glass post?
With this fencing do you have bears crossing it? Is 28inches high or low enough for keeping predators out?
Bears probably are kept put but I'd bet coyotes would love through fairly easy
You say you used a regular t-post driver to drive fiberglass post in?
Yes
I don't think that wire is 180,000 p.s.i., Could it be rated at pulling up to 180,000 pounds tension? That number sounds very high for pulling tension. Maybe I'm unfamiliar with the p.s.i. application.
Do you have to loosten these in early spring?
No we never touch them
I have tables of conductors and guy wire, different types, and you get the span, how far between two poles, and measure the sag, how far the belly hangs down, and you can gage how much tension there is in the wire. That's how we would sag, pull it up to the correct tension.
Measuring the sag when each end of the wire is not exactly level and the ground is uneven may make those tables hard to interpret. I would think about shooting from one end to the other with a laser then measuring the SAG from the laser down to the wire in the middle. If you want to be scientifically exact.
@@davej7458 Sagging wire is not an exact function, but rather, a quick method in the field to approximate the tension of a conductor. Exactitude would be achieved by putting a, "clock," on it, in my day, something like a linear scale that registers tension on a clock-like face.
Let's start with how a line crew would determine sag. The man sagging would measure from the point of attachment of the conductor, and measure down to the desired sag, drive his 12 inch Screwdriver into the pole. The man at the next pole would drive his Screwdriver as well. Sighting the belly to the point of both screwdrivers would determine the sag. Generally, it wouldn't be 1 span of wire, but maybe a dozen spans, with 1 to 3 conductors in blocks at each pole, being pulled by a tensioner, or as simple as the conductors attached to a bumper of a pickup with slings and grips. When it was close, the man at the last pole would approximate sag, catch it off in a hoist, (other professions call what linemen call a hoist, a come-along). Then, he cuts it, with plenty of extra, and adjusts it for sag. Then he does the same for all conductors. The line being pulled in, (often rigged to the old conductors being replaced, and pulled out), have varying obstructions, and sag differently in minor ways. The termination point the conductors were pulled to before tensioning may be a mile away, bit of an exaggeration, but they are all sagged by the man on the pole at the other end. Once it's sagged, a crew at each pole secures the conductors in the insulators, and perform other duties.
In my experience, an inexperienced line hand, or a grunt, coming in and trying to correct seasoned line hands using the accumulated knowledge of over 100 years of pole top line construction rarely sees that man finding success. Put another way, a foreman who ignored the accepted procedure would encounter push-back from the men, and would likely bring the job in at the cost of many additional man hours. He'd probably get fired.
Hi Greg, I just didn't understand why you (apparently) used all fiberglass posts instead of predrilled timeless posts.
I had a pile of fiberglass posts that needed to be used, so they were installed.
What is the distance between line posts? Thanks
20 feet on flat ground is our spacing.
Drill your holes with a 30 degree angle and you won’t have to worry about twisting your support wires
Would this be adequate fencing for pigs?
U don’t cut the high tension wire with the hang man knot or any termination spot bend another handle in it that left of the hand hold to twist breaks in one turn and u can run your hand and never get cut or scratched by it
How much was that 4000 ft roll of polywire?
Where do you bury those posts?
Either Isaac’s one of those people who just don’t sweat or Ben’s doing all the work.
Isaac is the shop steward,
I have seen them both sweat pretty good!!
Could you use this same style fence for sheep?? Maybe with 3-4 wires?? Will the 1” fiberglass rods hold? Thanks in advance Greg!!
3 wires for sheep perimeter is working on our farms. 1” fiberglass rod will not work as a corner for 3 wires. You need a 1.25 or 1.5” diameter post
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Thanks for all the helpful videos, Greg. You & the interns are fun to watch. As many have said, God bless you all! For a 4 or 5 wire HT perimeter fence, would the 1.5" fiber glass rods be enough for corner posts, or would you need braces? What size would you use for line posts? Thanks!!
You need 2.5” fiberglass H-braces to hold a 5 wire hi-tensile fence corner. For line posts we use the Timeless Posts, 5 footers.
@7.50 /100 for cotter pins I fail to see the savings of having pieces of wire laying along fence lines to get stuck in tires
Not sure what you are talking about. We don’t have pieces of wires laying along fence lines.