Fun fact, there's like an extra hour of the Heroes speedrun footage/commentary that I had to cut out just so this video wouldn't literally be just me at that point lmao Also 11:28 is a new top tier JustMaxT moment
Here’s a speedrun tip. Hold the Chaos Control button when touching a capsule and it’ll instantly activate. But here’s the best part. It’ll also give you a 2nd Chaos Control charge after the first ends.
So a few Fun Facts I learned from speedrunning these levels myself as well as watching videos of the best runners: 1. Chaos Control capsules. If you have control of Shadow's movement (can be lost by being locked into homing chains, scripted segments, etc. ) hold the button to activate Chaos Control as you're about to run in to a capsule, the capsule will effectively give you two charges. You don't need specific timing, just hold it. This works because a) the capsule itself gives you a full charge, and b) the energy for gauge you can see and hear fill the gauge is separate from the capsule itself, meaning after the initial Chaos Control has ended, the visual energy that spawns from the capsule will then fly to you, allowing a 2nd activation off one capsule. 2. Space Colony Ark Act 1. In the Radical Highway slide portion of the level, if you jump as soon as you land (and only then), you can Spear Glide down instead of needing to slowly slide all the way down to the small combat section. 3. Rail Canyon Act 1. Another Radical Highway section shenanigan, this time to do with something similar to how it launches you forward at the end of the section if you're far enough off center, but at the first bridge before the skydiving stuff instead. If you go onto one of the bridge rails, Spear Glide across and land on the skyscraper, it does the same launching forward thing, except with nothing in the way so it just launches you WAY up into the sky. With enough knowledge and practice, you can Spear Glide all the way to the end of the level this way. I highly recommend watching Sharu6262 run this level. 4. Kingdom Valley Act 1. This level actually has some really fun and funky geometry play. First off, if you time a stomp well enough of the few rope bounces you get, you can skip the small jump and get the big jump immediately. 2nd, there's a few pieces of terrain around the level where Shadow will stand on them at a funky angle, allowing you to boost up in to the air and skip portions of the level. It's why the low route where all the enemies are instead of the cave is actually optimal, since you can chain Chaos Control and skip the eagle that would make the difference between routes a little smaller. Sharu6262 is once again a great example for this. (Side note: I personally love Act 2 with all the Chaos Control chains and tough but satisfying ways to shave off time.) 5. Sunset Heights Act 2. Act 1 is actually very technically sound and more about Chaos Control chains and general platforming skills, so I'm going with Act 2 here. Act 2 might be your favorite 2d act to speedrun if you love experimenting with routes. This level has SO many different route combinations. Sure there's always the ones that are better than the others, but this one is so satisfying to find those best routes on your own. And as a bonus, being good at jumping from platform to platform is definitely rewarded here. 6. Chaos Island Act 2. Act 1 is very popular, and a large chunk of what was mentioned in the video is solid advice, so I'll again go with Act 2. Enemies and Chaos Control capsules are more sparse in this level than almost all if not every other level in the game. So the best route tends to be based on the one where you can get most of those few ways to get Chaos Control as possible. And every gondola in this level is not only possible to skip, but optimal. 7. Radical Highway Both Acts. No Doom Wing runs of these two levels have some of the craziest tech you will ever see. More so for Act 2 but Act 1 is still great. Multiple instances where you can skip at least 5 seconds of main route with insane Spear Glides. There are plenty of spots where you will be surprised you can stand on places off the main routes.
11:24 For people who can’t hit 4 enemies here, there’s a slightly alternate route to approach. Right after the big jump at the start, when you get through the dash ring, air boost→chaos spear * 2→double jump→homing attack the 2 bots in the lower route. Then you boost forward until the dash pad sends you through a set of dash ring. At the final ring, air boost with L stick pointing left + about 30 degrees to the up→chaos spear until you see and homing attack the spring. With this route you can get here with 2/5 Chaos Control meter. After boosting through the robots you’ll likely to have Chaos Control ready.
2:23 Another way to go about this section is to do what has been dubbed as the “Yoinky Sploinky”, essentially you jump off of a gravity panel and stop instantly, which freezes shadow and moves him backward. Then you can just spear glide on to the platform right before the tunnel section
19:20 I'm glad my goat Shaulov mentioned this part bro. Chaos Island Act 1 is easily one of the most technical 3D Sonic stages to speedrun in my book, like I was able to trim my time down to 1:36.98 I believe and I almost thought I developed carpal tunnel with how locked in I had to get 😭once you understand the routing, that stage is no joke. At least 15 hours of my playtime came from that one stage dawg. It low-key made me realize why the music used in that stage is EDM LMAO The team definitely cooked with Chaos Island Act 1 fr Edit: I lied I actually got down to 1:33.68 😭 holy moly
22:48 fun fact with this rail section, if you time your jump just right before the one dash panel that starts the volcano scene you KEEP your speed that you had before you hit that dash panel and just speed through the section
sxsg feels like being worthy to be called the sequels of the adventure era speed running wise... the skips here are creative ... include both maaaaajor and minor.. and feel really satisfying to perform..
For a video about Sonic Frontiers 2, you should talk about what characters would be in it and what will be their arcs? My best guess is that Shadow will finally swallow his pride and confess that he has been acting crude due to so much self-loathing and hatred for Sonic for failing to save Maria and Gerald twice while Sonic successfully saved his friends during the events of Generations. This would lead him to have a redemption arc by rescuing Sage.
1:24 needle should have attacked the enemies for chaos control meter, and shouldn't have jumped on the ram yet he should have homing attacked the rocks
it’s kind hard to explain the speed exploits for the doom surf but I’ll try. If you hit a wall while midair, you can jump and stomp to get a boost when you hit the water. Then if you spam A while in the water you can keep the boost speed the entire time
Cyberspace was actually my favorite part of the game! In fact, its the only reason why I play Frontiers nowadays! The open world was actually my least favorite part of the game! (Same applies to Update 3)
@@thejoker194Oh, and one more thing. What was the point of this comment??? I was never going to change my mind. So... what was your intent? To mock Sonic fans??? Seems real petty, if you ask me 👍
Loved all three input, minus RH Act 2. I'm a semi-casual speedrunner, but we appreciate playing fair with no wings. I was hoping for some insight on the stage, but most of it was DW cheese...Great video nonetheless, but I was hoping to not hear the term "Doom Wings" unless it was to actively reject the notion...
Sonic Forces me to Speedrun a better version of Sunset Heights
ah ah ah ah ah
I LOVE Sonic Forces!!!
I meant.... I LOVE speedrunning Sunset Heights from Forces!
(But it IS true that I LOVE Sonic Forces!)
hahahaahaaha bruh I sat here for half a minute trying to make sense out of this.. until I noticed it's a pun
Glad I’m not the only one who thought sunset heights was peak in this game
Fun fact, there's like an extra hour of the Heroes speedrun footage/commentary that I had to cut out just so this video wouldn't literally be just me at that point lmao
Also 11:28 is a new top tier JustMaxT moment
it's a secret
The levels are like unleashed levels built for sa2
Pure Peakness
Here’s a speedrun tip. Hold the Chaos Control button when touching a capsule and it’ll instantly activate. But here’s the best part. It’ll also give you a 2nd Chaos Control charge after the first ends.
I didn't even know about half of these I would've fumbled this so hard, great video and nice job everyone!
So a few Fun Facts I learned from speedrunning these levels myself as well as watching videos of the best runners:
1. Chaos Control capsules. If you have control of Shadow's movement (can be lost by being locked into homing chains, scripted segments, etc. ) hold the button to activate Chaos Control as you're about to run in to a capsule, the capsule will effectively give you two charges. You don't need specific timing, just hold it. This works because a) the capsule itself gives you a full charge, and b) the energy for gauge you can see and hear fill the gauge is separate from the capsule itself, meaning after the initial Chaos Control has ended, the visual energy that spawns from the capsule will then fly to you, allowing a 2nd activation off one capsule.
2. Space Colony Ark Act 1. In the Radical Highway slide portion of the level, if you jump as soon as you land (and only then), you can Spear Glide down instead of needing to slowly slide all the way down to the small combat section.
3. Rail Canyon Act 1. Another Radical Highway section shenanigan, this time to do with something similar to how it launches you forward at the end of the section if you're far enough off center, but at the first bridge before the skydiving stuff instead. If you go onto one of the bridge rails, Spear Glide across and land on the skyscraper, it does the same launching forward thing, except with nothing in the way so it just launches you WAY up into the sky. With enough knowledge and practice, you can Spear Glide all the way to the end of the level this way. I highly recommend watching Sharu6262 run this level.
4. Kingdom Valley Act 1. This level actually has some really fun and funky geometry play. First off, if you time a stomp well enough of the few rope bounces you get, you can skip the small jump and get the big jump immediately. 2nd, there's a few pieces of terrain around the level where Shadow will stand on them at a funky angle, allowing you to boost up in to the air and skip portions of the level. It's why the low route where all the enemies are instead of the cave is actually optimal, since you can chain Chaos Control and skip the eagle that would make the difference between routes a little smaller. Sharu6262 is once again a great example for this. (Side note: I personally love Act 2 with all the Chaos Control chains and tough but satisfying ways to shave off time.)
5. Sunset Heights Act 2. Act 1 is actually very technically sound and more about Chaos Control chains and general platforming skills, so I'm going with Act 2 here. Act 2 might be your favorite 2d act to speedrun if you love experimenting with routes. This level has SO many different route combinations. Sure there's always the ones that are better than the others, but this one is so satisfying to find those best routes on your own. And as a bonus, being good at jumping from platform to platform is definitely rewarded here.
6. Chaos Island Act 2. Act 1 is very popular, and a large chunk of what was mentioned in the video is solid advice, so I'll again go with Act 2. Enemies and Chaos Control capsules are more sparse in this level than almost all if not every other level in the game. So the best route tends to be based on the one where you can get most of those few ways to get Chaos Control as possible. And every gondola in this level is not only possible to skip, but optimal.
7. Radical Highway Both Acts. No Doom Wing runs of these two levels have some of the craziest tech you will ever see. More so for Act 2 but Act 1 is still great. Multiple instances where you can skip at least 5 seconds of main route with insane Spear Glides. There are plenty of spots where you will be surprised you can stand on places off the main routes.
11:24 For people who can’t hit 4 enemies here, there’s a slightly alternate route to approach.
Right after the big jump at the start, when you get through the dash ring, air boost→chaos spear * 2→double jump→homing attack the 2 bots in the lower route. Then you boost forward until the dash pad sends you through a set of dash ring. At the final ring, air boost with L stick pointing left + about 30 degrees to the up→chaos spear until you see and homing attack the spring.
With this route you can get here with 2/5 Chaos Control meter. After boosting through the robots you’ll likely to have Chaos Control ready.
2:23 Another way to go about this section is to do what has been dubbed as the “Yoinky Sploinky”, essentially you jump off of a gravity panel and stop instantly, which freezes shadow and moves him backward. Then you can just spear glide on to the platform right before the tunnel section
19:20 I'm glad my goat Shaulov mentioned this part bro. Chaos Island Act 1 is easily one of the most technical 3D Sonic stages to speedrun in my book, like I was able to trim my time down to 1:36.98 I believe and I almost thought I developed carpal tunnel with how locked in I had to get 😭once you understand the routing, that stage is no joke. At least 15 hours of my playtime came from that one stage dawg. It low-key made me realize why the music used in that stage is EDM LMAO
The team definitely cooked with Chaos Island Act 1 fr
Edit: I lied I actually got down to 1:33.68 😭 holy moly
THIS IS INSANE
@@GDubAI was having too much fun bro Shadow demands EXCELLENCE 😭
@@Rman1228 bro is not the ultimate life form bro just got arthritis 💀💀💀🙏🙏🙏
22:48 fun fact with this rail section, if you time your jump just right before the one dash panel that starts the volcano scene you KEEP your speed that you had before you hit that dash panel and just speed through the section
23:20 THE TRANSITION??? HELLO??
Thank you I worked very hard on it
sxsg feels like being worthy to be called the sequels of the adventure era speed running wise...
the skips here are creative ... include both maaaaajor and minor.. and feel really satisfying to perform..
I’m in the top 5 for kingdom valley act 1 with the doom wing XD, with a time of 30.16 seconds
PC?
@ YEP!!!
im honestly amazed about how far speedrunners have taken this game in only a few months
*IMAGINE HOW ITS GONNA BE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS*
We cooked so hard on this 🙏
Ayo it's Needomas
@@Ivan210bluboi hello there
@@MrNeedleM0use Hi pookie
@@Ivan210bluboiDawg😭🙏
@Furantssu What? He himself literally gave me the "pookie" role in his discord server. I don't make the rules
25:31 Hello? I played this stage so many times to get the S rank and never noticed this path lol
11:22 Why even mention it if you’re not going to explain it? Seriously, that was not helpful at all
Agree
For a video about Sonic Frontiers 2, you should talk about what characters would be in it and what will be their arcs? My best guess is that Shadow will finally swallow his pride and confess that he has been acting crude due to so much self-loathing and hatred for Sonic for failing to save Maria and Gerald twice while Sonic successfully saved his friends during the events of Generations. This would lead him to have a redemption arc by rescuing Sage.
1:24
needle should have attacked the enemies for chaos control meter, and shouldn't have jumped on the ram yet he should have homing attacked the rocks
it’s kind hard to explain the speed exploits for the doom surf but I’ll try. If you hit a wall while midair, you can jump and stomp to get a boost when you hit the water. Then if you spam A while in the water you can keep the boost speed the entire time
Quite unusual to hear Unleash actually praising ShG, lol
lmfao
Shadow Generations???
You missed a lot of skips in kingdom valley which couldve saved 40 seconds but good run
Shadow Generations is such a great game!
8:02 Bruh, I was trying to figure out where this specific alt path was. And I feel so stupid for not noticing it sooner 🙃
Shadow generations has so many cool mechanics
Especially spear gliding, I love this move
Cyberspace was actually my favorite part of the game!
In fact, its the only reason why I play Frontiers nowadays!
The open world was actually my least favorite part of the game! (Same applies to Update 3)
Sonic fans never cease to amaze me
@@thejoker194Rude, much? 😂
@@thejoker194Anyways, I will never change my mind.
No matter what you say 👍
@@Hyp3rSonic ik you can’t reason with a sonic fan so I don’t even try anymore
@@thejoker194Oh, and one more thing.
What was the point of this comment??? I was never going to change my mind.
So... what was your intent? To mock Sonic fans??? Seems real petty, if you ask me 👍
Loved all three input, minus RH Act 2. I'm a semi-casual speedrunner, but we appreciate playing fair with no wings. I was hoping for some insight on the stage, but most of it was DW cheese...Great video nonetheless, but I was hoping to not hear the term "Doom Wings" unless it was to actively reject the notion...
???
Yo GdubA still makes videos
2024 GLAZING 🗣️🗣️💯💯🔥🔥
🔥🔥🔥
Sorry but the take about frontiers lacking replayability and sxsg being reach with it in comparison just caught me off guard 😭
Huh?
Cover the movie DLC stage for speedrunning too.
I think this video might benefit a lot from timestamps for each creator
Good idea
My only complaint is that I which that it should have been a bit more longer
theory: spear gliding was intentional
No movie dlc?
Next shadow generation DLC: rival battle between sonic and shadow. For $5
Guess I like Sonic Heroes now
Yessir
Dw gdub, i still dont like heroes no matter what that guy says 😎
you a real og