Valerion VisionMaster Pro 2 vs JVC NZ8 Side by Side Footage

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 327

  • @snackplaylove
    @snackplaylove 16 дней назад +201

    Based on this I’ve just preordered a Reference Footage - thanks! 🤩

    • @haroldveatch3159
      @haroldveatch3159 16 дней назад +1

      Me too. At 4:45, the reference footage displays two people.Both projectors display two black blobs. What i the reference footage displayed on?

    • @MrSummerknight
      @MrSummerknight 15 дней назад +7

      @@haroldveatch3159 the referecne footage is displayed on YOUR display. Like the other 2 also. It is the original video stream data put into HookUp's video. The other 2 are camera recordings.

    • @ChristianBungert
      @ChristianBungert 12 дней назад

      Haha🎉😂

    • @nikilragav
      @nikilragav День назад

      I wish youtube had gold like reddit

  • @ZakMony
    @ZakMony 16 дней назад +107

    This is exactly what is asked for! You're nuts! The best reviewer on RUclips as always.

    • @marcinbenc1637
      @marcinbenc1637 16 дней назад +5

      I was thinking that if he would do it, it Will be the Best compare ever. Now ebook readers please :).

  • @brucesmith1754
    @brucesmith1754 16 дней назад +30

    Bruh, you are doing the most! I'll bet there are more than just a few of us that wanted to see this type of comparison but didn't want to look goofy asking for it. 😁
    Extra 🏅🏅 for the hardest working projector reviewer in the business! Thanks Bro!

  • @ZakMony
    @ZakMony 16 дней назад +29

    I just realised that this is your second channel. Didn't realise you had one! Subbed!

    • @jahwerx
      @jahwerx 16 дней назад +1

      SAME!!!

  • @TRX25EX
    @TRX25EX 16 дней назад +11

    Bro you taking it now to another level!!!! You actually made me buy projector while I don't even need one

  • @buzzbuzz68
    @buzzbuzz68 16 дней назад +13

    Another great video. I also found the Valerion very impressive (again). Can't wait to see a comparison with a calibrated Max model. Thanks for this great job.❤

  • @ke5943
    @ke5943 15 дней назад +5

    please add a "thanks /tips" button please. I'll leave one on your other channel for now, but great coverage like this which really helps people out deserves a tip. Thanks again!

  • @AwesomeSauceShow
    @AwesomeSauceShow 15 дней назад +5

    That's the ridiculous comparison I was waiting for! Thank you sir! 🎉

  • @dbambrick996
    @dbambrick996 16 дней назад +7

    Pro 2 held up well, better black levels on the jvc but the pro 2 to me was close to reference on a lot of scenes. Thanks, glad I backed the max version.

  • @CrazedCrittic
    @CrazedCrittic 16 дней назад +9

    I bought a LOT of JVC projectors back in the day for various cinema's (including my own). When BenQ first launched their budget 4k projector I bought one for the games room. I kept running back and forth between the cinema room and the ghetto games room and really was hard pushed to see the difference. The JVC projectors are high end and quality items, BUT I cannot justify the X9 prices especially when projectors are "fashion" and will be out of cool in 2 years. I just upgraded my DLP to laser and I am very happy with the results. Uk prices for the Benq 7100 are £1300 from Richer Sounds with a 6 year warranty. Bye bye JVC.. too little too late.

  • @mtbdudex
    @mtbdudex 16 дней назад +3

    Like many have said , thank you for doing this, I’m actually gonna view it on my OLED TV instead of just a smart phone or computer screen

  • @sking379
    @sking379 16 дней назад +7

    Yeah this guy is nuts, but always on point, is it just me or the Valerion is brighter..? Wow

  • @PauloPHGTA
    @PauloPHGTA 15 дней назад +7

    Can you make a comparison just like this but with the Valerion vs Epson 5050ub? They are kind of close in price, awesome video by the way, keep up the good work, your channel for projectors is like what Rtings is for TVs!!

  • @mkongsoefast
    @mkongsoefast 15 дней назад +10

    The software on the Valerion must be crazy good, to do this. For me it just confirmed that i'm not going to spend 5 figure amounts. The new guys on the block has truly done their homework.

  • @sebastienlinck4908
    @sebastienlinck4908 13 дней назад +1

    These lifestyle projectors are kicking butt!!! I got the Dangbei DBOX02 a couple months ago and I'm happy with it, but this Valerion and the tech coming is just amazing! The fact that retail consumers can now get a great 4k movie experience for $1-3k is great!

  • @gregm9506
    @gregm9506 16 дней назад +11

    Would love to see a side by side with the NexiGo Aurora Pro next.

  • @MrSummerknight
    @MrSummerknight 16 дней назад +17

    Well. There are multiple screnes where I liked the valerion more, which is unexpected. Overall I like the JVC picture more. But maybe $2k more, not $14k more.
    And thinking about everything except the picture, I have no use for the JVC and the Valerion perfectly fits my needs.

  • @granworks
    @granworks 16 дней назад +13

    Wow. I'm going to be in the market for a 4k very-high-quality projector in the next year and I'll have to say that the Valerion is performing unbelievably beyond its price class. The JVC has undoubtedly better color accuracy (the Valerion is notably red-shifted to me) but I found myself preferring the Valerion image in a lot of the dark scenes! Also, at no point does the JVC completely embarrass the Valerion, which you'd expect with this level of price difference.
    So yeah, this is a lot to think about. I do have a dedicated theater and noise, speakers, OS, etc simply don't matter at all and thus I wouldn't naturally be even glancing at "lifestyle" projectors. But that Valerion -- wow.

    • @jordirapper
      @jordirapper 15 дней назад +1

      Actually if you go on their kickstarter now, you can get it for 40% off of the retail price. I know it is a bit of a gamble but every review I have seen speaks very highly of the Valerion projectors.

    • @Fluterra
      @Fluterra 10 дней назад

      @@jordirappera “bit” of a gamble?! Hahaha. You have zero recourse if they go under. You lose everything.

    • @jordirapper
      @jordirapper 10 дней назад

      @@Fluterra right but it's a sister company of AWOL who focuses on UST projectors and they wanna make this their lifestyle projectors and The Hook Up amongst others had their review unit. It is legit.

  • @69ETO
    @69ETO 5 дней назад +2

    I would be interested in a comparison like this against the Epson LS series

  • @dlcphoto
    @dlcphoto 16 дней назад +7

    Very interesting comparison - thanks for taking the time to do it. Two questions:
    1. What is the source for the 'Reference' video?
    2. What were the HDR settings on the JVC?
    It would also be interesting to feed both of these the output from the madVR Envy, to eliminate tone mapping differences, and concentrate on other aspects of the image. Regardless, thanks again.

    • @thehookupextras
      @thehookupextras  16 дней назад +5

      The source for the reference video is the raw ripped video files. JVC set to Frame Adapt 1 Mode 1.

    • @dlcphoto
      @dlcphoto 16 дней назад

      ​@@thehookupextras Thanks.
      What display is the ripped raw file being played on, and how is it handling or tone mapping the HDR? It just looks a little flat, although viewing all of this on RUclips is likely quite a bit different from in-person.
      And the HDR Level on the JVC - Auto or another setting?

    • @ryankramer
      @ryankramer 16 дней назад +6

      @@dlcphoto I think you're misunderstanding something. The reference video isn't playing on a display at all. You're simply watching the actual movie clip for comparison. It would be like searching up a movie trailer on youtube, and watching that. The only display in that scenario is the one you're looking at. :-) The better question to ask would be what color space conversions / file format conversions did the reference file see in the production pipeline.

    • @dlcphoto
      @dlcphoto 16 дней назад

      @@ryankramer Thanks for the reply, and yes, this gets towards what I was thinking about. "Reference" would ultimately be seeing what would be seen on the calibrated display used by the film's technical people, capable of fully showing the color space, dynamic range, etc. I understand that.
      I'm trying to understand how the 'Reference' shown in the video compares with what was seen on that original calibrated display, and how it got from the digital file to an image in the video.
      And to be clear, this is not intended as a criticism of the video; just trying to fully understand more about the 'Reference' image that is shown.

    • @ryankramer
      @ryankramer 16 дней назад +6

      ​@@dlcphoto Once the file is locked and 'blessed' from the mastering sessions, the video file is what it is REGARDLESS of that original display that was used to create it. It's entirely possible to have a MORE accurate and BETTER display to view the file than what was used to grade and master the original one used in production. (Pricey though! ^_^) That's why thinking about what the original display was that it was mastered with doesn't really gain you anything and one should focus on the importance of finding the highest quality footage file (with no mastering errors) instead.
      As for pipeline, speaking generally, the original footage would probably be ripped from a disc. You'd take that footage and bring it into a NLE (Non linear editor) like Davinci Resolve. When you set up your project in your NLE, you want to be matching your project to your file's specs. Things like bit depth, color space, resolution, frame rate, etc. should all match.
      You would want to have any footage of the projectors shot also lined up with the same specs if possible. Now, it's almost impossible to do perfectly in practice,. Frame rates, shutter speeds, exposures for one display vs another, etc. make it very tricky to match everything. In reality, you're left with approximations of what you see in person, which is why people can't get too carried away with what they watch here in this video and why The Hook Up even said it's a little silly. ^_^
      To be sure though, it sure looks like this video was made to do a good job of matching what was seen perceptively, and I applaud the work that went into it.

  • @sokolum
    @sokolum 9 дней назад +2

    🤣😂🤣 After 4 minutes into watching i noticed that the video is actually in the OPPOSITE of what was show on the table 😱😱 Oh my…Valerion is crazy good ❤️❤️❤️ It blows JVC away !!!!!

  • @deezyperformance
    @deezyperformance 16 дней назад +6

    This earned a subscribe.

  • @Simon-oq6ds
    @Simon-oq6ds 7 дней назад

    Thank you for the great reviews and comparisons you do on all of your vids.

  • @Ian_Woods
    @Ian_Woods 16 дней назад +10

    Not that I would ever even consider the JVC to buy.
    But looking at these two side by side they look very similar to my eyes. there were only a few scenes where I "just" prefered the JVC, but overwhelmingly I prefered the Valerian, in fact I found myself just drawn and watching the Valerian for long periods and forgetting to look at the JVC at the same time to compare, I had to watch it all again and force myself to make sure I looked at both.

  • @TheaterAtReference
    @TheaterAtReference 16 дней назад +1

    You are amazing thank you for all of your hard work. This empowers us in making better choices.

  • @royshaft
    @royshaft 16 дней назад +2

    Thanks for that , very interesting.
    I run a Sony HW 55 , can’t stand the rainbows on DLP.
    But oh my , i might have to take another look around .

  • @Tulipo08
    @Tulipo08 16 дней назад +3

    Damn Valerion looks great. I have an NX5 and was thinking of upgrading to the NZ500 to get more modern tech, less noise and heat while being brighter(small room), and faster HDMI sync times. I’m seriously considering the Valerion Max now… I also have a Lumagen I could pair with it. How is motion compared against the JVC? I like the motion on my JVC FWIW so just curious if we can expect similar performance from the two in that regard.

    • @parawizard
      @parawizard 16 дней назад +1

      I don't think I would be looking at that upgrade that way. Valerion has good blacks for lifestyle DLP but in general blacks have been bad with this class of projectors. Like worse than classic 1080p DLP projectors with larger DMD. I highly prefer my really old JVC HD350 to several 4K DLP lifestyle projectors I have tried for movies. Older DILA models don't have low latency for gaming. I am expecting to get passable blacks for Valerion but not inky blacks.

  • @Willy_Elres
    @Willy_Elres 3 дня назад +5

    Some fairly rampant Rainbow Effect clearly visible on the Valerion there. That, along with the poor DLP black levels will make this one a no-go for many people, but overall it looks like it could offer a relatively decent image for the money.

  • @abefroman.
    @abefroman. 16 дней назад +1

    This is why you are the best! Thank you for doing this!!!!!!!

  • @beinleif524
    @beinleif524 16 дней назад +33

    Why does it look like the valarion is running 24 or 30 fps vs 60 on the jvc and reference? It kind of looks like stuttering🤔

    • @csdstudio78
      @csdstudio78 16 дней назад +6

      More like 12fps. Something is way off there.

    • @Tokamak_9
      @Tokamak_9 16 дней назад

      Valerion have a dedicated Cinema mode with 24fps. You can change to higher fps if you want.

    • @grundybunch9944
      @grundybunch9944 16 дней назад +6

      The Valerion was running at 60hz instead of 24 so he could take proper video (from his camera) of it, that's why the panning was jerky

    • @SuperCollectorClark
      @SuperCollectorClark 15 дней назад +2

      @@beinleif524 this

    • @Goofy_BASSTURD
      @Goofy_BASSTURD 14 дней назад

      DLP chips can’t produce natural motion blur. He talks about that in his other video where he tests it out.

  • @peacemakermotion3949
    @peacemakermotion3949 16 дней назад

    You are the man!!! Crazy how well it holds up against the JVC beast. Pro 2 even looked better in a couple scenes. Hope the Max will close that gap even more!

  • @1tmo4sho
    @1tmo4sho 16 дней назад +1

    I have the AWOL 3500. Love it but seeing the Valerion black levels on your other comparison videos has me wondering if I should switch…

  • @lo_fye
    @lo_fye 16 дней назад +1

    I think the Valerion's colours were a little off in some scenes, but overall I think I actually preferred it to the JVC. The one area that it seemed to fail was in the very bright HDR scene where the guy is looking down into the camera, with a lit sky behind him. The clouds were completely blown out on the Valerion... but is that worth paying $14k more for the JVC? I don't think so.

  • @OwenL2020
    @OwenL2020 11 дней назад +1

    I guess it should be noted that the Kickstarter price listed at $2100 is a 40% discount because of the Kickstarter project, so regular MSRP would be about $2940.

  • @evolution2001
    @evolution2001 16 дней назад +1

    So the Valerian did not have your (Robert's) usual color correction done? We're seeing the OOTB color on the Valerian??? If so... "Wow! Crazy Impressive!"

  • @kingcharles915
    @kingcharles915 14 дней назад +1

    @thehookupextras is there any way you could make a video comparing ALR Screen vs White Matt Screen, Ceiling Mount vs Non Ceiling Mount comparisons?
    I feel many people are curious about this, especially people like me who are new to the Projector world but excited to be a part of Valerion. Thank you!!

  • @Fiztex553
    @Fiztex553 14 дней назад +1

    I kind of like dark scenes showed by Valerion more than reference or JVC. Looks like great tone mapping and EBL.

  • @2Timothy2.15
    @2Timothy2.15 16 дней назад +3

    What is your overall personal impression of this comparison? Judging from this video alone, the Valerion should be the value king of kings. It even seems to have more pop and shadow detail. The only way to truly gauge how different, though, is to see both side by side in person.

  • @vapormodel
    @vapormodel 16 дней назад +1

    I'll take the reference footage projector 😂😂
    Makes you wonder if my guy is getting any of that $5 million after watching this one. Your opinions matter heavily in the projector market especially in the forums.

  • @arunlouie
    @arunlouie 16 дней назад +4

    Why not any feedback on the comparison like always?

  • @GokuInstinct1
    @GokuInstinct1 16 дней назад +9

    Can you do the Epson LS11000 vs the Valerion Pro 2?

    • @cyberathlete
      @cyberathlete 4 дня назад

      Epson 11000 is most likely not as good. Valerion seems to be the better PJ.

  • @davidsilberhorn
    @davidsilberhorn 16 дней назад +7

    How good is the contrast of the Pro 2 compared to the Nexigo aurora pro? I would be very interested in such a video.

  • @yand99
    @yand99 16 дней назад +1

    Great video! Will you do another one with measurements?

  • @sorsiva
    @sorsiva 16 дней назад

    Your awesome thanks for doing this… I’m amazed at the performance of the Valerion… and from my untrained eye looking through my iPhone screen I actually prefer the Valerion on the brighter scenes… maybe it’s just because it’s brighter looking and harder to distinguish on a smaller screen… also it seemed more juddery. But what was your take?

  • @frannyfranman
    @frannyfranman 16 дней назад +18

    What backpack would you recommend for the NZ8 if I want to bring it to my friend’s house for mario party?

    • @chai_reddy
      @chai_reddy 16 дней назад +1

      😂

    • @ThefabulousJF
      @ThefabulousJF 16 дней назад +4

      Just an average womans handbag as these take everything + one more.

    • @XxXnonameAsDXxX
      @XxXnonameAsDXxX 16 дней назад +1

      One extra large ikea bag

  • @nuralamsiddiki3299
    @nuralamsiddiki3299 16 дней назад +1

    I don’t understand the technical specifications but I just loved the footage from Valerion. You did great as always. Cheers 🥂

  • @Ltek-uz5kj
    @Ltek-uz5kj 16 дней назад +1

    Thank you for doing this. Would have likes some variation in scene lighting vs mostly very dark. Dark scene are very valuable but also bright scenes to see how it handles those. Looks like the NZ8 was not calibrated as skin tones were far off vs reference and just a little too dark. The Pro2 looked to have oversaturated Red. Maybe calibrate them and re-run the test? Comparing to an NZ5 or NZ500 would be a closer match to what someone may make a buying decision with... NZ8 is a cool comparison, thank you.

    • @drcasper
      @drcasper 16 дней назад +1

      Bruh did you not listen to the man ? It's calibrated . This guy can calibrate

    • @ThefabulousJF
      @ThefabulousJF 16 дней назад

      @@drcasper 1:37 - "this isn't calibrated, straight out of the box". So are both calibrated or just the JVC? Not sure with his wording, sorry no native speaker.

    • @Ltek-uz5kj
      @Ltek-uz5kj 16 дней назад

      ​@@drcasper he says 'its very well calibrated' but he didn't say and he was quoting specs but he did not say it was manually calibrated (like from a pro). JVCs are very good direct from the factory. ... an example of where the JVC looks bad and the Pro2 is far closer to Ref is at 17:35 ... look at the skin tones. JVC is far from Ref, especially when the dark scene they are walking together in the parking lot.

  • @nikilragav
    @nikilragav День назад

    Looks like the Valerion is looking slightly desaturated / less contrasty? I think the white balance might be slightly too blueish (although to my eyes that actually looks more natural, but we do want it to match the color grading)

  • @Boogeymann
    @Boogeymann 16 дней назад

    Your reviews are A+

  • @wechnivag
    @wechnivag 16 дней назад +2

    Can you share what was the JVC NZ8 laser dimming mode in this comparison video? Thanks!

  • @nikilragav
    @nikilragav День назад

    the blacks are definitely decently better on the JVC. Would love to compare with another projector I know or at least that is considered a good projector like Epson 5050UB or LS11000 or LS12000. Seems like the color temp is consistently a bit too blue in the Valerion in this comparison.

    • @nikilragav
      @nikilragav День назад

      where white balance issue is calibratable I would assume

  • @sree2z
    @sree2z 13 дней назад +1

    You are awesome. This review is excellent which clearly shows its not always the well-known brand that produces excellent quality of images. I have not seen anyone surpass your quality and standard of review of projectors. You are the best reviewer of projectors on RUclips.

  • @j_cob
    @j_cob 13 дней назад +1

    Two quick questions regarding the Valerion Pro.
    1. What models of Screens would you recommend for day & night time viewing?
    Do you think it's worth to buy for it the Fresnel ALR Screen offered in bundle pack at Kickstarter?
    2. Is there a menu in it's OS, which you can use to calibrate color accuracy below delta 3?

    • @Fiztex553
      @Fiztex553 13 дней назад +1

      I believe I can answer 😉:
      1) No one knows about their ALR. Valerion claims a new de-speckle tech but those who got the screen can't share a lot of details. Long throw ALR Fresnel screens are being sold for around 3 years but they are not very popular, as you won't even find reviews on them, just occasional mentioning on AVS. According to one reviewer from Australia on the Valerion screen there is still a bit of a laser speckle but it's not clear whether it's because the screen was not positioned properly as he was testing ceiling mount and might not have flipped the screen upside down - said reviewer packed the PJ up and has no time to test it again. One thing for sure - the minimal laser speckle and the best sharpness is going to be on a decent white screen, if you have the dark room ready for it. Alternatively you can consider 0.6-0.8 gain matte gray screen (not ALR) if you have a light bleed somewhere or reflections in the dark, but still forget about day viewing with it. I gambled and ordered their Fresnel 100" - I figured if it fails I'll still sell it for a couple hundred and the total loss wont be too high for me to worry about. I consider it a learning experience, a very typical thing in the PJ world 🤣
      2) For sure there is everything in it to calibrate it properly. You can find the results on YT, avg. accuracy is well below 3. Question is whether you have access to required equipment (costs like several projectors like this) or a company which can do it for you. Personally I'll just use reference images to balance RGB. I'll mostly watch HDR on it anyway (real and RTX HDR through MPC Video Renderer).

    • @j_cob
      @j_cob 12 дней назад +1

      @@Fiztex553 Thanks for sharing your comprehensive opinion about the Fresnel ALR Screen.
      I still wonder - what kind of screen and brand would The Hook Up recommend for Valerion...

  • @sorsiva
    @sorsiva 16 дней назад +1

    Also any chance you could share your calibration numbers that you used for the Valerion. I know it’s subjective but when you did it for the JMGO it made a noticeable difference for me… Thanks again!!

    • @thehookupextras
      @thehookupextras  16 дней назад +1

      As mentioned, this unit is not calibrated.

  • @abefroman.
    @abefroman. 16 дней назад

    @thehookupextras Thanks again for doing this!
    Wondering if the Color Filter is engaged on the JVC?

  • @johnsaunders6510
    @johnsaunders6510 16 дней назад +1

    I wonder if a bit more calibration of the Valerian they would look a lot closer.

  • @JD1971.
    @JD1971. 14 дней назад

    Interesting video but why haven't you commented on the comparison? Thanks

  • @Themazcorner
    @Themazcorner 16 дней назад +3

    haha considering the price diff, youtube compression this is actually quite mindblowing. Let's throw in the size diff as well :D
    The darker stuff on the Pro 2 seems to be showing better, specially looking at stuff in the background in the first scenes. On many scenes the Pro 2 is very similar to the reference

  • @jay19dbfl
    @jay19dbfl 16 дней назад +1

    So glad I ordered a pro2. This video and the review you did on main channel confirms that it absolutely prison dates the competition at its pre order price

  • @SSYCINFORMATICA
    @SSYCINFORMATICA 16 дней назад +4

    Hey hook up, do you think that the Nexigo Aurora Pro beats the visionMaster Pro 2?
    also
    you should make a comparation between the best UST and this vision master pro 2.

  • @ckra2001
    @ckra2001 11 дней назад

    Interesting video, what were your camera settings?

  • @j_cob
    @j_cob 12 дней назад +1

    Any chance for comparison VALERION with some close priced UST?

  • @andreaswerner8811
    @andreaswerner8811 16 дней назад

    Thanks for the video, what is that cool music that accompanies the video?

  • @Myasinax
    @Myasinax 16 дней назад +13

    The NZ8 is last gen and as such I imagine would not cost the same as the current gen JVC NZ800 at $15-16k. The JVC black levels are appreciably better in real life and comparisons like this without level calibration mean nothing. In real life I imagine the grey blacks of the Valerion would irritate me and DLP rainbow (although appears to be minimized) probably a major issue. There are positives and negatives on both sides, but I would strongly recommend anyone looking to buy any projector to demo it in person first.

    • @Anakin-dl6eb
      @Anakin-dl6eb 16 дней назад +1

      I completely agree!!!

    • @TRX25EX
      @TRX25EX 16 дней назад +3

      But Valerion stuff can be fixed by going for a Grey Screen without ALR, since it's brightness is higher than JVC you will get better black bars with slight sacrifice in brightness that will still be higher than JVC, and the rainbow issue is usually only visible in ALR screen or poor quality ones, I bet a regular Matte Grey or White won't be visible.

    • @grundybunch9944
      @grundybunch9944 16 дней назад +1

      Yes it's an unfair comparison, the JVC was fully calibrated and the Valerion was just out of the box with NO calibration. The JVC is supposed to beat the competition, no doubt.

    • @MrBonger88
      @MrBonger88 16 дней назад +2

      Exactly. This video definitely doesn’t show the DLP grey blacks

  • @pnwpowerhouse6731
    @pnwpowerhouse6731 12 дней назад +1

    2k vs 14k...easy decision for me. I'd need the JVC to be much, much better to choose it over the Valerion!

  • @MrSpike77777
    @MrSpike77777 6 дней назад

    Valerion is very impressive. What would you say the throw distance is for say a 120" screen?

  • @jabedikramchowdhury6813
    @jabedikramchowdhury6813 16 дней назад +1

    Thanks For this video. Useful video.

  • @SugizoYoshikiX
    @SugizoYoshikiX 4 дня назад

    I haven't seen valerion in person but I tried other triple laser ust (even been to a showdown event), an Epson 5040, a benq 3550 and even a jvc np5 in a dark room clearly wins. The contrast makes a huge difference in image 3d pop. Valerion is native 3000:1. Jvc np5 only appears dim in some instances at 1800 lumens. I enjoy watching jvc on 120" more than I enjoy watching a 77" oled. Oled doesn't get as bright as lcd but oled's image just pop so much more. It's the same as jvc compared to other projectors I mentioned.

  • @techm0j0
    @techm0j0 4 дня назад

    Looks interesting, especially at the kickstarter price, but I think I'll stick with my Epson LS12000.

  • @yama-fanboy
    @yama-fanboy 15 дней назад +1

    my observations:
    JVC > valerion in color accuracy and black floor
    Valerion > JVC with dynamic range
    I would go with the cheaper quieter one

  • @3483maverick
    @3483maverick 9 дней назад

    The Max will have a dynamic iris. You should review the 3D?

    • @thehookupextras
      @thehookupextras  9 дней назад

      I reviewed 3D performance in my main review.

  • @chriswilson5306
    @chriswilson5306 16 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the great video, appreciate all the hard work you had to do to make it happen; carrying that JVC around alone must have been a back breaker, hope the cart was close! As for the video, there were definitely scenes where I preferred the Valerion and some scenes where I preferred the JVC; they seemed to trade blows occasionally on which matched reference better. The JVC did seem to crush black details in a lot of scenes though, so I would in a majority of cases prefer the Valerion's image.

  • @sammypanda
    @sammypanda 15 дней назад

    if you haven't before this would be interesting with the JVC against USTs awol 3500 / hisense px3 pro / nexigo aurora pro, morbid curiosity :P

  • @excxflyr
    @excxflyr 2 дня назад

    I didnt see any rainbow effect though something in the quick pans on the edges of the display. looked like a clear vertical wave for a moment. will have to watch it again. Dont know if its possible to see rainbow if not watching it live? cant believe how close it is to the jvc, the colors on the jvc seem oversaturated in the blue/green?

  • @thewatchmensknowledge4914
    @thewatchmensknowledge4914 10 дней назад

    This just proves the theory of diminishing returns is a real thing!! I’m sure when you get up to the big boy screen sizes the JVC shows its chops!! But anything 120 and below….. well brightness and pixel blow out would be less also of a factor. I’m sure in person the JVC must have preformed better than this lol!!

  • @ivanivanich7957
    @ivanivanich7957 7 часов назад

    На Valerion картинка более дерганая против JVC. Такое ощущение что на JVC надо добавить яркость и будет близко к референсу

  • @francismedina4547
    @francismedina4547 16 дней назад +2

    At 4:56+ the Valerion has more details and JVC went darker and lost the image

  • @user-fs8bb8gh4n
    @user-fs8bb8gh4n 13 дней назад +1

    From 4:20 when the camera pans to the right and left it seems the footage from the Valerion has some lag, the JVC a little less. Would this be because it is recorded?

    • @TheHookUp
      @TheHookUp 13 дней назад +1

      This was not recorded on a splitter, each had its own source to ensure the correct EDID and tone mapping info was sent. The sources were just ever so slightly out of sync.

  • @CamiloMaidanaHD
    @CamiloMaidanaHD 6 дней назад

    I would like to know if the Visionmaster Pro 2 would be a significant improvement over my Optoma GT1080 Darbee projector in terms of contrast, colors, and level of detail, or would it just be an okay improvement?

  • @ThefabulousJF
    @ThefabulousJF 16 дней назад

    Thanks for that video. Subscribed.

  • @deathward990
    @deathward990 2 дня назад

    Do I need to have a pitch dark room to watch this projector or can a illuminated living room have this projector?

  • @andre10181
    @andre10181 14 дней назад +10

    I think Jvc has just been put on notice The The Vision Master Pro 2 has just changed the game. Ready to put my pre-order in! Great Job💲

    • @Jacob-ed1bl
      @Jacob-ed1bl 11 дней назад

      That thing is junk, don't buy it.

    • @kennysughiarto2780
      @kennysughiarto2780 9 дней назад

      @@Jacob-ed1bl wwhat

    • @Jacob-ed1bl
      @Jacob-ed1bl 9 дней назад

      @kennysughiarto2780 i don't think my comment is difficult to understand, lol.

    • @kennysughiarto2780
      @kennysughiarto2780 9 дней назад

      @@Jacob-ed1bl need to know which thing

    • @Jacob-ed1bl
      @Jacob-ed1bl 9 дней назад

      @kennysughiarto2780 🤦‍♂️ The vision master. Do you actually believe you're going to get an amazing projector for 2K? You're not! It'll be okay at best.

  • @ollifz3130
    @ollifz3130 15 дней назад

    Is the Valerion permanently changing the black bars in the black level? Looks like at the scene of Wakanda Forever in the garage.

  • @peakoil-ko5oq
    @peakoil-ko5oq 16 дней назад

    Valerion is a small projector with beastly characteristics

  • @MrBonger88
    @MrBonger88 16 дней назад

    The JVC is definitely more colour accurate but the Valerion was doing a good job. Valerion seemed slightly brighter in very dark scenes but neither had the low level detail of the reference. What is the reference display?

    • @cichlisuite2
      @cichlisuite2 2 дня назад +1

      Reference is not footage of any display. It's the video file played on your display that you're viewing RUclips on. So it's how it should look, given the limitations of whatever you are viewing this on.

    • @MrBonger88
      @MrBonger88 2 дня назад

      @@cichlisuite2ah yes that makes sense thanks

  • @Yoshi-Yuki
    @Yoshi-Yuki 16 дней назад +1

    Wow! THANKS mate! Would you still prefer the Hisense PX3 pro? Comparable? Best YY

    • @thehookupextras
      @thehookupextras  16 дней назад +2

      I have yet to evaluate any of the new standard throw ALR screens. The advantage of the PX3-Pro and USTs in general is how efficient the ALR screens are at rejecting ambient light.

    • @bossanegra3490
      @bossanegra3490 13 дней назад

      @@thehookupextras Will you receive the Valerion Fresnel ALR screen? And have you tried pairing the Valerion with the Nothingprojector black series ALR screen? I've seen reviewers use that screen with standard throw laser projectors, and they were quite positive with the results

  • @zzzzi8586
    @zzzzi8586 16 дней назад +4

    JVC, Sony and Epson prices are now 100% in an audiophile network switch level BS category.

  • @BMWorks_NL
    @BMWorks_NL 10 дней назад

    Can you share what the best screen is for the Valarion? I hear and read very contradictive info what is best to use is a medium lit room without getting laser speckle. THNAKS!

  • @CelentanoLuca
    @CelentanoLuca 16 дней назад +3

    what would explain the color differences here if both have such low delta e and wide color spaces?

  • @Luke-qs2cg
    @Luke-qs2cg 13 дней назад

    To me the valerion looked better across most scenes, brighter, smoother, finer edges, all watching this on my tcl 98" and pixel peeping. This is an insane performance from a sub 3k projector

  • @SuperCollectorClark
    @SuperCollectorClark 14 дней назад +6

    People trying so hard to put down the JVC simply because of the price difference. No need for that, you can compliment the Val without trashing the JVC. If the VAL looks good and fits your budget then good.

    • @kitvar2685
      @kitvar2685 11 дней назад +2

      It begs the question though, is the massive leap in pricing truly justifiable? Yes its native 4k, yes the black levels are superior, but you're looking at triple the price.

    • @SuperCollectorClark
      @SuperCollectorClark 11 дней назад

      @ I don't mean this as an offense but If you think it's too expensive it's not for you. I'm not saying this with projectors but everything in general.

  • @pulDag
    @pulDag 6 дней назад

    Thanks. Valerian seems a bit laggy (choppy). Is that also in person?

  • @hindagsxr
    @hindagsxr 16 дней назад +3

    For me, the choice of Valerion. The color accuracy in relation to the reference was different. Sometimes Valerion was better, sometimes JVC. But the HDR brightness was much better in Valerion. Regarding black. Very high black in JVC often caused loss of detail in black. JVC often had darker black than reference. I don't know if it should be like that. However, despite the fact that in dark details Reference and JVC had similar colors (scenes on a boat in the port), the great tonal balance of colors in Valerion convinced me more.

    • @dominus519
      @dominus519 16 дней назад +1

      You really think video's like this can show the differences? Wow.

    • @Fiztex553
      @Fiztex553 14 дней назад +1

      @@dominus519 and if you think it won't ,then what are you doing here? The whole video is about trying to show the difference between those. Or did you just come to offend people?
      Video shows valid difference in tone mapping and great EBL of Valerion which can definitely lead to that impression. Obviously, those are completely different projectors with different goals. JVC is trying hard to show an image close to reference via classic approach through hardware brute force (much bigger static contrast), while Valerion achieves very likable picture through amazing tone mapping and EBL. And if are going to like both pictures, then why pay at least $14000 more? Only a few are going to choose to spend so much extra to achieve that little. The whole home cinema with construction, sound and furniture can come close to that difference if you DIY.

  • @ZackCrain
    @ZackCrain 15 дней назад

    Honestly if you change the blue green tone it would be so incredibly similar

  • @ericreese4606
    @ericreese4606 16 дней назад +1

    Biggest thing I noticed is the motion on the Valerian looks terrible. The JVC looked a bit too dim, but that is easily adjusted. Not sure what can be done about those motion artifacts though. Thanks for the side by side.

    • @thehookupextras
      @thehookupextras  16 дней назад +1

      The projectors need to locked to 60p in order to film them properly and memc was completely disabled. That said, I do prefer the motion handling on the JVC to basically any other projector on the market.

    • @BROmanderAndChief
      @BROmanderAndChief 15 дней назад

      @@thehookupextras Agreed, motion handling on Valerian looks awful. If both are locked at 60fps I’m surprised there is such a discrepancy between them.

  • @Mike-fs3bv
    @Mike-fs3bv 10 дней назад

    Until nearly the end I thought the Valerion was the upper right with the over saturated reds and darker picture. How could a cheaper projector beat that JVC beast. What was your in person viewing experience. Often the camera shows things your eyes don't see.

    • @thehookupextras
      @thehookupextras  9 дней назад

      The JVC does get dimmer than the Valerion. It doesn't crush shadow detail, but the entire scene is shown at a lower ADL.

  • @hblockx16
    @hblockx16 16 дней назад

    Amazing!

  • @michaelkao2094
    @michaelkao2094 16 дней назад

    As expected, the JVC is a lot dimmer. Yes, its more color accurate but TBH, i prefer the Velarion as i can see more detail. I'm sure we can calibrate the color. But if without reference footage, I would pick Velarion without a second thought. Simply because at really dark scenes, I can't see much on the JVC. The JVC itself also isnt that accurate in dark scene, it seems to have a slight skew towards blue while Velarion towards red. Is it because of the laser bias on the camera again?

  • @Foxhound11
    @Foxhound11 5 дней назад

    Is it true you have to get the Max model if you want to hang it from the ceiling

  • @ZackCrain
    @ZackCrain 16 дней назад

    Can you do Nz8 vs Nz9 or if you have the Sony 8100 vs the NZ900, that would be a really good comparison

    • @thehookupextras
      @thehookupextras  16 дней назад +7

      I only have an NZ8. I am not a dealer or anything, just a guy who likes projectors.