When I first started, I saw Paw Paws wine and thought oh how easy and no money spent. Then I found this channel. Now I have 5 carboys, yeast nutrient, acids, sanitizing solutions, multiple airlocks, hydrometers, about 25 40 ounce empty glass bottles, ect ect. Thanks, just thanks for costing me all this time and money. All I wanted was to make a little wine out of my blackberries. Oh yeah I have a braggot, a mead, and a wine going all at once.. So actually thank you
I started by watching Pawpaws wine making videos too. Now I've got all the equipment and have made wine from juice, fruit (fresh, frozen, dried, jarred, canned) veggies, flower petals etc. What a wonderful hobby. I'm always thinking "what should I make next?"!!
I also started watching PawPaw first and have made 11 juice wines and now I have 6 gallons going because I was given a free wine kit but I have many plans for fruit wines, fresh and frozen fruit.
Yep. I tried using molasses in homebrewing back in the 90s, because it's listed as a possible *flavor* ingredient in the "Joy of Homebrewing" because of its lower amount of fermentable sugars. There's no getting away from the fact that great BBQ sauce often includes molasses. If you love BBQ, it is almost impossible *not* to associate the taste of molasses with BBQ sauce. The presence of alcohol makes molasses taste even _more_ like BBQsauce. You did nothing wrong. All you've done is enhanced the aspects of molasses *that makes it great in BBQ sauce.* "I'm not a fan of drinking marinade" is spot on. You could use it to cook all cuts of pork, and I'd guess duck would be amazing. You could also use it to make a sauce. *Loved this video.* I was genuinely hoping your choice of yeast would solve the issue of molasses fermenting into something that tasted like thin BBQ sauce. I'll be back here in a year to see if time creates something better.
my thoughts exactly. i kinda want to make it when i get a couple spare fermenting vessels, and use maybe 1 more jar of molasses. i also wonder how it would be if you left it on the stove to reduce for a while, what kind of sauce would this make? so many possibilities!!
For my 6th grade project at school in Scotland I fermented treacle with bread yeast and then distilled it using a water cooled glass distillation tube. It produced some high proof Rum? that evaporated when you put it in your mouth. We thought it was fun and I got an 'A' from my very understanding teacher! The title was Exploring the making of HOOCH from Treacle fermentation. Our teacher did ask we put our experiment in the back room. This was 50 years ago.
@@mkdouglas8919 I am also in the colonies now and I lucked out with my Chem teacher a marvelous one. I brew Scrumpy and various ciders now, some hopped.
Respiratory therapist here, CO2 is about 20x more soluable than O2 in water. When you swirle a brew CO2 is more likely to be released (also reabsorbed) than O2 is absorbed into the brew, especially with an air lock on.
Interesting observation. Not only am I a home brewer, but have been an RRT for these past 18 years and always look forward to conversing with someone else in the field. Do you have a recommendation for how one could maximize 02 absorption prior to fermentation to build up the colony without approaching the cusp of impracticality (i.e.-expensive 02 injection system, etc???)
Dear Lord this video keeps getting better and better, now your drinking a 2. OK, we are going to name this "Gunpoint Cooking Wine" with the tag line "' 'cause the only way I'm drinking that is at gunpoint!" Medic! Man down! Thank you for your service. So hilarious.
I was one of the people who asked for this. I'm glad y'all did it and not me. But that being said, I still may try a half gallon rift off this recipe. Maybe add some ginger, clove, and cinnamon to it.
I appreciate the volume and frequency of your content. Started a cherry cider yesterday (no apple juice added; I consider it cider, at least by English standard lol, as long as it's a carbonated alcoholic beverage made from orchard fruit.)
I started off by getting the kit from Golden hive and two other Wide Mouth fermenters from Amazon. Now I've got 9 total fermenters and more on the way. This has become such a fun hobby for me. My favorite part is gifting bottles and surprising people with how easy and delicious home-made brew can be!
The two of you tasting this was fun to watch. Thanks for taking one for the team. Though it sounds distinctly like it’s not worth using as a drinking wine. I think I’ll do a small batch to use as marinade like you will be doing! Also, per recommendation is got me a spaddle!! Can’t wait to have it, your recommendation for the pitcher turned into one of my MOST favorite kitchen Utensils I have! You both are awesome and thank you for the fun and for the science!
For what it's worth, most of the fermentation recipes I've seen using molasses have (1) used it as part of a ~50/50 mixture with brown sugar, (2) used a much lower SG, and (3) brewed it in the style of a beer where you have some kind of intense bittering agent. The idea is that combining brown sugar and molasses can give you a taste approximating that of malt... if you've ever tasted malt syrup and molasses this kind of makes sense.
I am in the UK and managed to find Star San, so no excuses there! Also, who on earth is out there getting mad at people on RUclips for saying "Bejeezus"?! There's much more to life.
Great video! I made a brown sugar wine with just a small amount of added molasses a few years ago, it was blackstrap molasses though. It took forever to finish and had some funky smells, but after a year or so it was quite nice.
A little over a year ago I made a gallon batch using some left over ingredients from a few brews I did that day, which was basically dark malt extract with molasses and brown sugar (yeast was Mangrove Jacks M41 - Belgian strong ale). I didn't write anything down about it but I remember it starting above 1.1 OG and I let it go dry and didn't modify. Tasting it right before bottling was like licking a fry pan after burning barbecue sauce but I figured I'd bottle it anyway out of curiosity. I tried it every few months and it was still awful until about a year later. It is still hard work but it is drinkable. It lost a lot of the bad flavours and now tastes like I made liquid Vegemite (which I guess many would consider a bad flavour).. I doubt it will get any better but I'm letting it sit to see what happens. I'm sure mine was helped by having some malt in it but I get the feeling molasses is an addition only and just not designed to be the base.
I've done "friendship cider" like people do sourdough bread. Rack a batch of cider, swirl the yeast at the bottom, pour some in the next batch, and keep going. Done that up to 3 times with one packet of yeast.
Please 🙏 keep us updated how this is to cook with. I cook all our meals from scratch, and I’m super tempted to make a batch of this to find out for myself. While you were describing the flavour I kept imagining marinating chicken in it for using Korean food
As an East coast Canadian MolAsses and rum are part of our culture. I was curious about this, thank you for saving me the time money and pain of making this. BTW its fun to see one that well to be polite didn't pan out.
Hey Friends! I can't believe it. I just started experimenting with Molasses Brew and the batch i started last night I pitched with some leftover Kveik Yeast, but I went to order more kveik and it won't arrive in time for next brew day so I thought hey I got some Bread Yeast (also some Red Star Wine Yeast) and down the Rabbit Hole i went... sooo this was the perfect video for me today. Thanks a million!
Love the videos. Been watching for about a month and also collecting what y'all and other mead creators have said to get to brew mead which luck for me wasn't a lot since I had a beer starter kit that I used once. I started my first batch of mead today and it's starting og is 1.114 target to get to is 1.04. the batch ingredients are as follows. 14.5lbs of Kirkland wildflower honey, 71b yeast, and water to 5 gallons. The reason I'm doing a 5 gallons batch is I've got five 1 gallon fermenters and want to do 4 different flavors with one gallon been bog standard mead.
@@CitySteadingBrews that's what meadmakr batch builder suggested. I'll do what you suggest though. Out of curiosity have y'all ever back sweetened with honey powder? And if so is it as good as sugar?
I was so hoping this was going to work as I love the taste of molasses in baked goods. Maybe something magic will happen over a year. My blueberry wine RE-ALIVED when I bottled it so I've been burping the bottles every second day or so for a couple of weeks. The bigger bottles I'll burp until still (for wineskin roulette), but with the smaller bottles, I now have a pretty tasty sparkling blueberry cider. Love your channel. Tried a metric crap tonne of new things. Thanks guys!!!
I think if you made a braised beef stew using that and a malted stout then paired that with a bloody mary ( and added a dash of molasses mead for the Worcestershire part), it'd make your taste buds re-alive!
Hi, now you are raiding the grocery store for supplies, have you ever tried making wine from the fruit juices on sale such as SunRype Wild Raspberry, or SunRype Blueberry Harvest etc.
Thanks for the video, i was wondering about a pure molasses fermentation for a while. Thought the only recipes i could find were gruit/small beer with herbs, spices and/or hops added to it and only aiming for something like 2 percent abv, or actual beers with only a few ounces of molasses added as a spice rather than the base fermentable. I think if i'll ever try a molasses fermentation i'll definitely consider the molasses itself as a spice and not the main ingredient. also an update on my ginger beer: two weeks in the fermentation has slowed down significantly; i can hear a bubble passing through the airlock about twice an hour, but visually the surface of the brew still looks rather active, so i'll wait a little longer until i check the gravity. I'll definitely try to carbonize it, if successful one might even call that RE-ALIVED!
That is definitely the most unusual ingredient you've used so far! Very interesting project, I will be waiting a video with one year tasting. Also, it is very important for this beverage to be re-alived! ☝
I've added molasses to brews to add complexity similar to how to you guys use honey using mainly bread yeast, and I've had mostly good experiences. As far as aging it definitely helps, but thats true of anything (more info I use a molasses from a local orchard that grows their own sugar cane so it may vary)
Speaking of degassing - did you ever make a video testing/debunking degassing during fermentation? Have you see folks using "magnetic stirring plates" to give continuous agitation, and the "amazing benefits"? The little airlocks are very cute - itsy bitsy tini wini clear two piece air lock cleany
If you have a problem with the funnel you can also put a theespoon with the stick side down next to the funnel pointing outward.(be carefull taking the funnel out not to drop the theespoon into the mix :P
Go all in, make a fermented barbecue sauce 😂 put some garlic, onions herbs, spices in primary and age it on charrd muskeet. No idea if it'd work, and it's not exactly a sipping drink... Maybe an April fools thing.
There is marinades that use alcohol as the “acid“ so fermented barbeque sauce would probably make a really great marinade/tenderizer. Would be interesting to see what dishes Brian and Derica (sorry, I am horrible at spelling names) would come up with to use it
have you guys ever used Ambrosia Honey before? I just picked up 4lbs of it and am excited to try it! Apparently it has caramel/floral notes? Im so excited to brew something up with it today.
"we need to change the rules" ... it's your game, your rules. In this case, it seems like the rule change was completely called for. By the way, thank you for the experiment. I had actually bought molasses for this purpose. Now I won't waste the fermentation space. Thank you.
Can't wait for the one-year taste test. I am intrigued by the potential for cooking uses. Also, maybe a different brand of molasses would yield a different result or, perhaps, a different yeast. Anyway, IT'S RE-ALIVED!!!!!!!
Wife and I was given a large container of sorghum as a gift. Not sure what to do with it ...we thought why not wine! Sooo....we did. Same results like your molasses wine. BBq sauce flavor...and the wife uses it to cook with...she uses it to marinate venison which is great. And we still don't think it tastes that great....kinda close to a stout taste. Thank you to both of you for videos. Try making a tomato wine, we have and would like to see your results. The Johns
Re-alived, my new favorite word. I am wondering, have you ever used the lees cake to start a new batch of mead or wine? Would it even be possible? If it is, would it change the taste characteristics if you used the lees from the molasses wine in a traditional honey mead?
I made a molasses mead that's currently mid cold crash after fermenting for about 28 days or so. It's my first mead and the sugars are a mix of honey, molasses, and corn syrup. It smells nice, but it very foamy. I'll be taking a first taste in a few days. I'm not getting any barbeque smell at all... but it does kinda remind me of horse feed...
I made some molasses wine a year or so ago. It tasted pretty much, exactly like black olives out of a can when it was young. I tasted it again just a few weeks ago, and it's now closer to teriyaki.
Made cherry mead a few months ago. Turned out AMAZING. I call it my sleeping potion lol. But it came out with so much sediment in my 1 gallon I only got 2.5 bottles of it. Just invested in my first 3gal fermenter so i can get a better yield
I made a rum wine last year, started with unsulfured molasses and brown sugar, then back sweetened with brown sugar and added conditioning spices: a cinnamon stick, a Bay leaf, 5 Allspice berries, 2 whole cloves, 1 star anise, also added an American oak spiral. Turned out very nice…not at all like a bbq sauce. 😂
Hi, I have a question about using raisins. It is hard to find ones without sulfates where I live.Is it smart to use sulfated raisins in conditioning,or can I cook them or something to make them more suitable for brewing?
I tried making a historical ginger beer with a molasses base and it turned out very much the same way. weirdly savory, slightly sour, not really something I'd drink but would probably make for a pretty good stir fry sauce
So funny story: I recently started a spiced acerglyn, and I work at a grocery store, so last night when I was stocking the bake aisle and my eyes crossed the molasses, I kinda wondered if I could make a mead or wine with it. Then this morning, this video was one of the first things to cross my feed 😂
My only issue with the 2-part tiny airlocks is that when I use them in primary I have to refill them with sanitization liquid pretty frequently. In secondary they're great.
About 1/2 way through this video I was thinking if it keeps a similar taste take 1/2 of it put it in a slow cooker. In that slow cooker take it down to about 1/2 volume. Add some BBQ sauce seasonings if you want. With what is left make both a ketchup and a mustard sauce and see what is to your liking. I like molasses in my coffee, for the last week or so (today 6/9/24) I have been thinking about molasses based wine. Now I have an idea of ways to tweak this to a cooking wine.
I have a question. I have already pasteurized my wine and I'm ready to bottle. Can I use a funnel and just pour into the bottles. I have a auto siphon but no bottling wand. Is there a concern at this point over oxygenating the liquid? First batch nerves. :)
Any thoughts on using sorghum syrup in a wine? It has more of a "grain" smell (almost like wort in beermaking) but is milder in flavor than molasses. I wonder if it would work in a barleywine type recipe?
Mine is Molasses + mugwort + black tea + kombucha + bakers yeast + a bit more white cane sugar. Taste like a bitters beer yeasty which I like, but high alcohol flavor which I don't like but like the effects.
Word of caution from personal experience I’ve made this before and loved it with cider, my wife however experienced the worst hangovers she’s ever had from less alcohol than a usual night. Idk what it is but either some people react badly to the residue not sugar stuff, or I messed up despite a lot of successful batches before and after of other brews.
😅No need to worry about zealots' feelings... Don't be mad at me!😢 Tell Derica, thank you for being a friend ❤ Actually really needed to hear that this morning. Hope you guys are having a nice weekend
so I just pulled my light brown sugar wine (brown sugar if I remember correctly is made with molasses) off the other day. day 1, aka 0 aging. this was so smooth, what I don't understand is it tasted like apple juice with that mouth of a sweet wine. I unfortunately do not have the SG to give for starting as I didn't have the correct amount of brown sugar when I started it and it was a 1.06-7 SG and I added more to it a couple days later when I was able to make it back to the store. (note adding more to the active fermenting mad it VERY angry) when it eventually stopped fermenting it was at a 1.02. first taste was apple juice. it was amazingly pleasant, and probably one of my favorite drinks to date. I had done a test in the past using white sugar, light brown, and dark brown sugar. for this I just used fletchmans yeast the white was little to no flavor, the dark brown was less than pleasant (a bit bitter) but the light brown sugar at that time popped with a fruity floral flavor which is why I tried again this time I used a wine yeast RC212 and I have 0 regrets and want more now i sound silly given yall cover brown sugar later xD oh yeah i also added 2 tea bags of black tea
Use this as an addition to hot peppers when fermenting them for making your own hot sauce? Hot sauces are a fermented product. Ferment peppers in this...what could go wrong?
If you haven't thrown it out or cooked with it, try adding a good portion of ginger, some cinnamon, and some nutmeg. Maybe go for a gingerbread flavor?
Also, question, (I may have asked this before, but I have a memory disorder), could one use some of your methods and supplies to ferment foodstuffs? i.e. pickles etc.?
Always loved the jokes about the packages... Always loved the fact they foiled you to tear them, too.. Without your scissors, the packages won the fight!
I'd be curious to see the pH of the must at the various stages. I do notice that the different sugar types tend to net a different acid increase. Also: Re-alived.
@@CitySteadingBrews well yeah, but my curiosity stems from every stall ive had to date being pH related. might be worth checking if you ever molasses and stall again for data sake
I'm curious if you buy some average mediocre steaks, boil down the molasses wine into a sauce, marinate one steak in that sauce for 2-3 days in the fridge, give one steak a simply salting for the same amount of time, give another steak a pure Worcestershire sauce marinade, cook each steak to medium rare, and show us the process. Let us know if you fermented a better version of Worcestershire sauce. (I love Worcestershire sauce and A1 sauce but cringe at making this wine myself)
Ive made a ginger beer twice now, both times delicious but they stall out/finish at around 2.5% - with the same yeast, I can crack out a 7% cider.. any ideas??
@@CitySteadingBrews thanks for replying! I've never bothered checking before, so I guess get some of those paper tabs and add more water? Id rather have to add chemicals
I am wondering if there is any risks of backsweetening if im using a a car boy. The neck is too tight to fit anything reasonable to stir and I'm worried about oxidation if i were to stir/shake the secondary. Any suggestions?
When I first started, I saw Paw Paws wine and thought oh how easy and no money spent. Then I found this channel. Now I have 5 carboys, yeast nutrient, acids, sanitizing solutions, multiple airlocks, hydrometers, about 25 40 ounce empty glass bottles, ect ect. Thanks, just thanks for costing me all this time and money. All I wanted was to make a little wine out of my blackberries.
Oh yeah I have a braggot, a mead, and a wine going all at once.. So actually thank you
I started by watching Pawpaws wine making videos too. Now I've got all the equipment and have made wine from juice, fruit (fresh, frozen, dried, jarred, canned) veggies, flower petals etc. What a wonderful hobby. I'm always thinking "what should I make next?"!!
I also started watching PawPaw first and have made 11 juice wines and now I have 6 gallons going because I was given a free wine kit but I have many plans for fruit wines, fresh and frozen fruit.
Yep. I tried using molasses in homebrewing back in the 90s, because it's listed as a possible *flavor* ingredient in the "Joy of Homebrewing" because of its lower amount of fermentable sugars. There's no getting away from the fact that great BBQ sauce often includes molasses. If you love BBQ, it is almost impossible *not* to associate the taste of molasses with BBQ sauce. The presence of alcohol makes molasses taste even _more_ like BBQsauce.
You did nothing wrong. All you've done is enhanced the aspects of molasses *that makes it great in BBQ sauce.*
"I'm not a fan of drinking marinade" is spot on.
You could use it to cook all cuts of pork, and I'd guess duck would be amazing. You could also use it to make a sauce.
*Loved this video.*
I was genuinely hoping your choice of yeast would solve the issue of molasses fermenting into something that tasted like thin BBQ sauce. I'll be back here in a year to see if time creates something better.
my thoughts exactly. i kinda want to make it when i get a couple spare fermenting vessels, and use maybe 1 more jar of molasses. i also wonder how it would be if you left it on the stove to reduce for a while, what kind of sauce would this make? so many possibilities!!
For my 6th grade project at school in Scotland I fermented treacle with bread yeast and then distilled it using a water cooled glass distillation tube. It produced some high proof Rum? that evaporated when you put it in your mouth. We thought it was fun and I got an 'A' from my very understanding teacher! The title was Exploring the making of HOOCH from Treacle fermentation. Our teacher did ask we put our experiment in the back room. This was 50 years ago.
Yeah, that wouldn't fly today, lol.
Wow!! Too bad my & the darling husband's ancestors migrated from Scotland to the colonies! Our 6th grade was most assuredly less interesting!
@@mkdouglas8919 I am also in the colonies now and I lucked out with my Chem teacher a marvelous one. I brew Scrumpy and various ciders now, some hopped.
Respiratory therapist here, CO2 is about 20x more soluable than O2 in water. When you swirle a brew CO2 is more likely to be released (also reabsorbed) than O2 is absorbed into the brew, especially with an air lock on.
Thanks.
Interesting observation. Not only am I a home brewer, but have been an RRT for these past 18 years and always look forward to conversing with someone else in the field. Do you have a recommendation for how one could maximize 02 absorption prior to fermentation to build up the colony without approaching the cusp of impracticality (i.e.-expensive 02 injection system, etc???)
@@robertmooney1492 I use a usb powered small aquarium pump with a steel aeration stone. Works really well for me.
For what its worth I am watching you from Red Hills, Jamaica W.I. and you are BOTH my friends. Great job every time. CHEERS!!!
Much appreciated
Have I thought about making this? Yes, am I gonna make it now, nope! Thank you for your sacrifice
I gave a presentation at Phoenix Fan Fusion on mead making, and I was primarily able to do that because I learned so much from you two!
That is awesome!
Dear Lord this video keeps getting better and better, now your drinking a 2. OK, we are going to name this "Gunpoint Cooking Wine" with the tag line "' 'cause the only way I'm drinking that is at gunpoint!" Medic! Man down! Thank you for your service. So hilarious.
I was one of the people who asked for this. I'm glad y'all did it and not me. But that being said, I still may try a half gallon rift off this recipe. Maybe add some ginger, clove, and cinnamon to it.
I consider both of you not only wise entertaining, but also very, very, very informative. Keep up the good work.
Much appreciated!
I would like to see a follow up cooking video with this being used.
I appreciate the volume and frequency of your content. Started a cherry cider yesterday (no apple juice added; I consider it cider, at least by English standard lol, as long as it's a carbonated alcoholic beverage made from orchard fruit.)
I started off by getting the kit from Golden hive and two other Wide Mouth fermenters from Amazon. Now I've got 9 total fermenters and more on the way. This has become such a fun hobby for me. My favorite part is gifting bottles and surprising people with how easy and delicious home-made brew can be!
This just reminds me that when i started out brewing cider i would add both brown sugar & molasses to get to the starting gravity i wanted
I look forward to hearing (or seeing) whenever you decide to try this out in cooking!
The two of you tasting this was fun to watch. Thanks for taking one for the team. Though it sounds distinctly like it’s not worth using as a drinking wine. I think I’ll do a small batch to use as marinade like you will be doing! Also, per recommendation is got me a spaddle!! Can’t wait to have it, your recommendation for the pitcher turned into one of my MOST favorite kitchen Utensils I have! You both are awesome and thank you for the fun and for the science!
Happy to help and glad you enjoyed it.
For what it's worth, most of the fermentation recipes I've seen using molasses have (1) used it as part of a ~50/50 mixture with brown sugar, (2) used a much lower SG, and (3) brewed it in the style of a beer where you have some kind of intense bittering agent. The idea is that combining brown sugar and molasses can give you a taste approximating that of malt... if you've ever tasted malt syrup and molasses this kind of makes sense.
I can see that, yup.
I am in the UK and managed to find Star San, so no excuses there!
Also, who on earth is out there getting mad at people on RUclips for saying "Bejeezus"?! There's much more to life.
Chemsan does pretty much the same thing, and is sometimes easier to find.
You guys I love the humor we need more of that in this climate I highly appreciate your humor and videos thank you Brian and Derica
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for another great video. It's great to see someone so honest at this day and time. This wine should make a great MOJO replacement.
It's re-alived! IT'S RE-ALIVED!!!
Wooo!
you two are my friends and I’ve only watched three of your videos so far. Keep it up!
Thanks!
Great video! I made a brown sugar wine with just a small amount of added molasses a few years ago, it was blackstrap molasses though. It took forever to finish and had some funky smells, but after a year or so it was quite nice.
Your work has re-alived me, thank you.
Glad to help
A little over a year ago I made a gallon batch using some left over ingredients from a few brews I did that day, which was basically dark malt extract with molasses and brown sugar (yeast was Mangrove Jacks M41 - Belgian strong ale). I didn't write anything down about it but I remember it starting above 1.1 OG and I let it go dry and didn't modify.
Tasting it right before bottling was like licking a fry pan after burning barbecue sauce but I figured I'd bottle it anyway out of curiosity.
I tried it every few months and it was still awful until about a year later. It is still hard work but it is drinkable. It lost a lot of the bad flavours and now tastes like I made liquid Vegemite (which I guess many would consider a bad flavour).. I doubt it will get any better but I'm letting it sit to see what happens.
I'm sure mine was helped by having some malt in it but I get the feeling molasses is an addition only and just not designed to be the base.
I'm glad y'all are doing this one. I've been curious about it for a while. I'll watch it later.
I've done "friendship cider" like people do sourdough bread. Rack a batch of cider, swirl the yeast at the bottom, pour some in the next batch, and keep going. Done that up to 3 times with one packet of yeast.
BBQ Sauce Wine and Derica's implied friendship have re-alived me. Truly, this channel is a fermented miracle.
you guys are great! you inspired me to get into mead making and its been really fun
Please 🙏 keep us updated how this is to cook with. I cook all our meals from scratch, and I’m super tempted to make a batch of this to find out for myself. While you were describing the flavour I kept imagining marinating chicken in it for using Korean food
As an East coast Canadian MolAsses and rum are part of our culture. I was curious about this, thank you for saving me the time money and pain of making this.
BTW its fun to see one that well to be polite didn't pan out.
Hey Friends! I can't believe it. I just started experimenting with Molasses Brew and the batch i started last night I pitched with some leftover Kveik Yeast, but I went to order more kveik and it won't arrive in time for next brew day so I thought hey I got some Bread Yeast (also some Red Star Wine Yeast) and down the Rabbit Hole i went... sooo this was the perfect video for me today. Thanks a million!
Great video, it would be interesting to get a follow-up on how this did as a cook wine.
Love the videos. Been watching for about a month and also collecting what y'all and other mead creators have said to get to brew mead which luck for me wasn't a lot since I had a beer starter kit that I used once. I started my first batch of mead today and it's starting og is 1.114 target to get to is 1.04. the batch ingredients are as follows. 14.5lbs of Kirkland wildflower honey, 71b yeast, and water to 5 gallons. The reason I'm doing a 5 gallons batch is I've got five 1 gallon fermenters and want to do 4 different flavors with one gallon been bog standard mead.
Target 1.040? Erm... it's best to just let it finish. Most times we let them go dry and sweeten to taste. 71b will easily ferment that to dry.
@@CitySteadingBrews that's what meadmakr batch builder suggested. I'll do what you suggest though. Out of curiosity have y'all ever back sweetened with honey powder? And if so is it as good as sugar?
I must admit that after watching this video I am re-alived.
LOL
I consider you guys mentors and like a video brew diary for ideas and tricks on how to do things on my end
Thanks 👍
I was so hoping this was going to work as I love the taste of molasses in baked goods. Maybe something magic will happen over a year.
My blueberry wine RE-ALIVED when I bottled it so I've been burping the bottles every second day or so for a couple of weeks. The bigger bottles I'll burp until still (for wineskin roulette), but with the smaller bottles, I now have a pretty tasty sparkling blueberry cider.
Love your channel. Tried a metric crap tonne of new things. Thanks guys!!!
You are welcome!
You guys are awesome and funny. I like this channel bc It simplifies brewing terms and technics .
Thanks, glad you like it!
I very much enjoyed this video. I love molasses and am very intrigued by how this turned out. I bet it would make great baked beans
I think if you made a braised beef stew using that and a malted stout then paired that with a bloody mary ( and added a dash of molasses mead for the Worcestershire part), it'd make your taste buds re-alive!
Hi, now you are raiding the grocery store for supplies, have you ever tried making wine from the fruit juices on sale such as SunRype Wild Raspberry, or SunRype Blueberry Harvest etc.
Nope, have not tried those. As long as they have no preservatives though they should be fine.
Thanks for the video, i was wondering about a pure molasses fermentation for a while.
Thought the only recipes i could find were gruit/small beer with herbs, spices and/or hops added to it and only aiming for something like 2 percent abv, or actual beers with only a few ounces of molasses added as a spice rather than the base fermentable.
I think if i'll ever try a molasses fermentation i'll definitely consider the molasses itself as a spice and not the main ingredient.
also an update on my ginger beer:
two weeks in the fermentation has slowed down significantly; i can hear a bubble passing through the airlock about twice an hour, but visually the surface of the brew still looks rather active, so i'll wait a little longer until i check the gravity.
I'll definitely try to carbonize it, if successful one might even call that RE-ALIVED!
That is definitely the most unusual ingredient you've used so far! Very interesting project, I will be waiting a video with one year tasting.
Also, it is very important for this beverage to be re-alived! ☝
Dunno, I think coca cola and kool aid were up there...
But re-alived for sure.
I've added molasses to brews to add complexity similar to how to you guys use honey using mainly bread yeast, and I've had mostly good experiences. As far as aging it definitely helps, but thats true of anything (more info I use a molasses from a local orchard that grows their own sugar cane so it may vary)
Blazing Spaddles!!!! -insert mel brooks meme- So the recipe is how you Rick Roll your audience? 🤣I truly enjoy y'all's channel.
ROFL!
Another AWESOME video! Even if the brew looked like "mud". I wonder if Sorghum wine is a thing. Different plant and flavor than molassas.
It's very different, yes.
Re-Alived! 😁
And "all the ways of cooking all the things". Great video!
YAY!
Baked beans. Maybe? First time making a cooking wine! Congrats! lol. I am surprised it didn't taste like rum at all. Very interesting.
Very interesting. I made a surprisingly good "Colonial" Molasses Ale that had orange peel, rosemary, and juniper berries.
Speaking of degassing - did you ever make a video testing/debunking degassing during fermentation? Have you see folks using "magnetic stirring plates" to give continuous agitation, and the "amazing benefits"?
The little airlocks are very cute - itsy bitsy tini wini clear two piece air lock cleany
We haven't tested no. We aren't likely to use the magnetic stirring plates anyway, so... lol. We just keep it simple.
If you have a problem with the funnel you can also put a theespoon with the stick side down next to the funnel pointing outward.(be carefull taking the funnel out not to drop the theespoon into the mix :P
Go all in, make a fermented barbecue sauce 😂 put some garlic, onions herbs, spices in primary and age it on charrd muskeet.
No idea if it'd work, and it's not exactly a sipping drink... Maybe an April fools thing.
There is marinades that use alcohol as the “acid“ so fermented barbeque sauce would probably make a really great marinade/tenderizer. Would be interesting to see what dishes Brian and Derica (sorry, I am horrible at spelling names) would come up with to use it
Cool I got a jar of molasses for a recipe I wanted to try and used a tablespoon of it. Now I have something else to try it in.
Are you sure you want to repeat this?
Hey! love the videos. question. why do you do (og-fg)x135 = ABV instead of (og-fg)x131.25 = ABV
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have you guys ever used Ambrosia Honey before? I just picked up 4lbs of it and am excited to try it! Apparently it has caramel/floral notes? Im so excited to brew something up with it today.
Have never had it, sorry.
"we need to change the rules" ... it's your game, your rules. In this case, it seems like the rule change was completely called for. By the way, thank you for the experiment. I had actually bought molasses for this purpose. Now I won't waste the fermentation space. Thank you.
Can't wait for the one-year taste test. I am intrigued by the potential for cooking uses.
Also, maybe a different brand of molasses would yield a different result or, perhaps, a different yeast. Anyway, IT'S RE-ALIVED!!!!!!!
Maybe!
It might, dunno. Not all that motivated to ferment molasses again either way, lol.
Understood. Maybe you could start a competition...😅
Thank you for doing this... so i don't have to... Ive been curious about it and now i know i don't want to ferment molasses... great vid friends
Of course!
Wife and I was given a large container of sorghum as a gift. Not sure what to do with it ...we thought why not wine! Sooo....we did. Same results like your molasses wine. BBq sauce flavor...and the wife uses it to cook with...she uses it to marinate venison which is great. And we still don't think it tastes that great....kinda close to a stout taste. Thank you to both of you for videos. Try making a tomato wine, we have and would like to see your results. The Johns
Been looking forward to this since I spied in the tour of the new Fermenstation. 😜
I saw your old VacuVin video a while back for degassing. Is this something you continue to do? I find it rather good at degassing my projects.
Not really, we let them sit long enough that they degas naturally.
Re-alived, my new favorite word. I am wondering, have you ever used the lees cake to start a new batch of mead or wine? Would it even be possible? If it is, would it change the taste characteristics if you used the lees from the molasses wine in a traditional honey mead?
It's possible but not as consistent or reliable as pitching yeast.
I made a molasses mead that's currently mid cold crash after fermenting for about 28 days or so. It's my first mead and the sugars are a mix of honey, molasses, and corn syrup. It smells nice, but it very foamy. I'll be taking a first taste in a few days. I'm not getting any barbeque smell at all... but it does kinda remind me of horse feed...
I made some molasses wine a year or so ago. It tasted pretty much, exactly like black olives out of a can when it was young. I tasted it again just a few weeks ago, and it's now closer to teriyaki.
Okay but what if you take some and purposely Vinegarize it? for marinades and such?
If you wanted to, sure.
Man, the faces Brian is making starting around the 53:20-ish mark, after downing both. Yeah, I'm going to make THIS! 😆
Good luck. 😜
I made raw cane sugar kilju. It’s just finishing. I hope it’s good! It does not smell of bbq sauce.
Raw cane sugar is definitely not molasses.
The spaddle jokes had me rolling on the floor 🤣
"you'll know how to cast the line, but you may not catch a fish" - might have worked there.🤣
Made cherry mead a few months ago. Turned out AMAZING. I call it my sleeping potion lol. But it came out with so much sediment in my 1 gallon I only got 2.5 bottles of it. Just invested in my first 3gal fermenter so i can get a better yield
I made a rum wine last year, started with unsulfured molasses and brown sugar, then back sweetened with brown sugar and added conditioning spices: a cinnamon stick, a Bay leaf, 5 Allspice berries, 2 whole cloves, 1 star anise, also added an American oak spiral. Turned out very nice…not at all like a bbq sauce. 😂
Hi,
I have a question about using raisins.
It is hard to find ones without sulfates where I live.Is it smart to use sulfated raisins in conditioning,or can I cook them or something to make them more suitable for brewing?
You can try boiling them. It sometimes helps or just add them later.
I tried making a historical ginger beer with a molasses base and it turned out very much the same way. weirdly savory, slightly sour, not really something I'd drink but would probably make for a pretty good stir fry sauce
So funny story: I recently started a spiced acerglyn, and I work at a grocery store, so last night when I was stocking the bake aisle and my eyes crossed the molasses, I kinda wondered if I could make a mead or wine with it. Then this morning, this video was one of the first things to cross my feed 😂
My only issue with the 2-part tiny airlocks is that when I use them in primary I have to refill them with sanitization liquid pretty frequently. In secondary they're great.
Yup we noticed that too.
About 1/2 way through this video I was thinking if it keeps a similar taste take 1/2 of it put it in a slow cooker. In that slow cooker take it down to about 1/2 volume. Add some BBQ sauce seasonings if you want. With what is left make both a ketchup and a mustard sauce and see what is to your liking.
I like molasses in my coffee, for the last week or so (today 6/9/24) I have been thinking about molasses based wine. Now I have an idea of ways to tweak this to a cooking wine.
I have a question. I have already pasteurized my wine and I'm ready to bottle. Can I use a funnel and just pour into the bottles. I have a auto siphon but no bottling wand. Is there a concern at this point over oxygenating the liquid? First batch nerves. :)
Nope, please use an autosiphon as oxidation is DEFINITELY still a concern.
Any thoughts on using sorghum syrup in a wine? It has more of a "grain" smell (almost like wort in beermaking) but is milder in flavor than molasses. I wonder if it would work in a barleywine type recipe?
We just got some. Working on something for it.
Mine is Molasses + mugwort + black tea + kombucha + bakers yeast + a bit more white cane sugar. Taste like a bitters beer yeasty which I like, but high alcohol flavor which I don't like but like the effects.
Word of caution from personal experience I’ve made this before and loved it with cider, my wife however experienced the worst hangovers she’s ever had from less alcohol than a usual night. Idk what it is but either some people react badly to the residue not sugar stuff, or I messed up despite a lot of successful batches before and after of other brews.
😅No need to worry about zealots' feelings...
Don't be mad at me!😢
Tell Derica, thank you for being a friend ❤
Actually really needed to hear that this morning.
Hope you guys are having a nice weekend
so I just pulled my light brown sugar wine (brown sugar if I remember correctly is made with molasses) off the other day. day 1, aka 0 aging. this was so smooth, what I don't understand is it tasted like apple juice with that mouth of a sweet wine. I unfortunately do not have the SG to give for starting as I didn't have the correct amount of brown sugar when I started it and it was a 1.06-7 SG and I added more to it a couple days later when I was able to make it back to the store. (note adding more to the active fermenting mad it VERY angry) when it eventually stopped fermenting it was at a 1.02. first taste was apple juice. it was amazingly pleasant, and probably one of my favorite drinks to date.
I had done a test in the past using white sugar, light brown, and dark brown sugar. for this I just used fletchmans yeast
the white was little to no flavor, the dark brown was less than pleasant (a bit bitter) but the light brown sugar at that time popped with a fruity floral flavor which is why I tried again
this time I used a wine yeast RC212 and I have 0 regrets and want more
now i sound silly given yall cover brown sugar later xD
oh yeah i also added 2 tea bags of black tea
Use this as an addition to hot peppers when fermenting them for making your own hot sauce? Hot sauces are a fermented product. Ferment peppers in this...what could go wrong?
Sure. Could I guess.
If you haven't thrown it out or cooked with it, try adding a good portion of ginger, some cinnamon, and some nutmeg. Maybe go for a gingerbread flavor?
I wouldn't waste more on it, but it might make a fine marinade.
What does oxidation look/taste like? I know about vinegar, but it's supposed to produce off flavors too and look bad
Oxidation can make it taste "flat", or sherry like. It also often darkens the color.
@@CitySteadingBrews thank you!
Also, question, (I may have asked this before, but I have a memory disorder), could one use some of your methods and supplies to ferment foodstuffs? i.e. pickles etc.?
Not the same really, no. Different methods.
@@CitySteadingBrews OK, thanks!
You guys have re-Alived my interest in fermentation! However, you're using 135 as a multiplier (?) when I've seen 131.25 in the inter-tubes
We have videos on this. Essentially 135 is more accurate for higher abv like 8% and higher. 131.25 is fine for beer or things below 8%.
Always loved the jokes about the packages... Always loved the fact they foiled you to tear them, too.. Without your scissors, the packages won the fight!
I'm re-alived eating oat groatd eith cherries & elderberries while watching yall drink moleasses
LOL
Thanks for tackling the tough questions, like should you ever use molasses in any brew ever, so we don't have to!
Exactly!
Reduce it down by 50% and use it as a glaze or topical. Marinade and braise would give good layers.
Honestly watering some of it down and using it as a marinade for a pork tenderloin going on the grill/smoker sounds delicious.
What is the type of rubber bands that you use to hold the air lock on the carboy?
They come with broccoli for us!
I was wondering it looked familiar to that type of band but i didn’t know if you found them on amazon or anything, thank you so much friends!
I'd be curious to see the pH of the must at the various stages. I do notice that the different sugar types tend to net a different acid increase. Also: Re-alived.
The pH generally goes down during fermentation.
@@CitySteadingBrews well yeah, but my curiosity stems from every stall ive had to date being pH related. might be worth checking if you ever molasses and stall again for data sake
I don't believe this stalled. Molasses is not 100% fermentable.
Kepp on being yourselves 🎉
It would probably be a good marinade for pulled pork by your analysis!
I'm curious if you buy some average mediocre steaks, boil down the molasses wine into a sauce, marinate one steak in that sauce for 2-3 days in the fridge, give one steak a simply salting for the same amount of time, give another steak a pure Worcestershire sauce marinade, cook each steak to medium rare, and show us the process. Let us know if you fermented a better version of Worcestershire sauce. (I love Worcestershire sauce and A1 sauce but cringe at making this wine myself)
Ive made a ginger beer twice now, both times delicious but they stall out/finish at around 2.5% - with the same yeast, I can crack out a 7% cider.. any ideas??
Maybe ph?
@@CitySteadingBrews thanks for replying! I've never bothered checking before, so I guess get some of those paper tabs and add more water? Id rather have to add chemicals
I'd rather not add chemicals. But, pH can need adjustment sometimes.
@@CitySteadingBrews really appreciate your responses! I meant to say I'd rather NOT 😂. Will look into PH adjustments
I used pineapple juice to make a cider, it tasted savory somehow. I've been curious to try a molasses beer.
I am wondering if there is any risks of backsweetening if im using a a car boy. The neck is too tight to fit anything reasonable to stir and I'm worried about oxidation if i were to stir/shake the secondary. Any suggestions?
Mix as best you can really. Not a lot of risk but I wouldn't shake it no.