Lawfare Live: Debriefing hearings in Fulton County and Florida
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2024
- On Mar. 1 at 6 p.m. ET, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes, Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff, and Lawfare Legal Fellow and Courts Correspondent Anna Bower will discuss today's hearings in Fulton County, Georgia and Florida in the Trump criminal cases.
Thank you team for your dedication and attention. The heroes we need in these difficult times.
Aileen Cannon, Trump is special and needs special treatment and should not be treated like a criminal defendant. Remains in place. Fani Willis, dates someone in her office. Her impartiality is questioned and she may need to be replaced. Yea the legal system has this guy covered.
It’s gross and infuriating. It’s not a joke and we all just sit back and take it. Watch it in real time.
Trump's presence all day in court srikes me as a silent but visible reminder to Cannon of who should be uppermost in her mind. I can't think why else he'd sit there all day.
The counsel for the state was dreadful--unorganized, uncertain, inarticulate. Not even at a first-year law student level. Given the overall miserable judgment (and lies!) on Willis's part, I fear this case is gone forever. Justice is so hard to attain in America.
Another note: while this was a hearing on whether to disqualify DA Willis, all of the attorneys are in fact officers of the court. Through reading the text messages, we see that Ashleigh Merchant lied to Terrance Bradley. Merchant assured Bradley that she would keep him out of it. That was a lie. On at least two occasions during the hearing, we saw Merchant tell the court and Bradley that the text messages would say something specific. Merchant even shuffled papers as if she was locating the texts, but she never did. Those were lies. It seems as though the commentators here believe it’s okay to lie to the court as long as you are defending your client.
She didn't lie to him.
He give her the permission later.
All the doc are available with a simple search ;)
@@GuyMassicotte this comment makes no sense. It’s clear Bradley did not want to testify. Merchant stated in the text that she would keep Bradley “out of it”. I guess you didn’t want to address the other lies Merchant told while Bradley was on the stand. Oh, I forgot the lie that Merchant told about Stacey Evans and/ or her husband catching Wade and Willis in an intimate act at Willis’ old office. Both Stacey Evans and her husband said that this was a lie.
So much hearsay from the defense does not create enough of a reason to disqualify. As my grandmother once said to me, “ If someone hears something enough times, they’ll begin to believe it’s true whether it or not”. McAfee indulged and lead the defense attorneys far too much. If an army of lawyers comes in and says the same thing over and over for hours, it is still a preponderance of hearsay, not fact or law. Once again, this panel just gets it so wrong.
@@lucky_spyke lol
Thank you for these updates!!
Strange how practicing attorneys in GA have a different read out. I was also patiently waiting for someone to breakdown how DA Wills has demonstrated a lack of candor before the court. To accept this, we would have to accept Bradley’s text as true, which we cannot.
My thoughts exactly...exactly how did willis show lack of candor? I want to know exactly what she said that was untruthful and what is that based on
It strikes me that this is a perfect example of the need for higher education to teach CRT. These white gentlemen give little or no credence to Black cash practices because living under the weight of racism is literally unimaginable to them, and all the more because a Black woman enters white male consciousness in the first place in a matrix of projected instinctual (read: amoral or immoral) sexuality. This collective projection, being collective, is not noticeable to the individual perpetrating it. Fani Willis's authenticity on the stand as a southern Black woman struck their perception as questionable and histrionic. This is unconscious sexism and unconscious systemic racism on display.
@@ecstanton me too! Even the phone records are questionable. They obtained raw data from the phone company and had some PI ( not an expert) work with it. The defense says that Wade’s phone pinged the towers near DA Willis’ Condo 35 times. But the state says that 20 of those pings occurred before DA Willis even moved in, and there are another 8 times his cell pinged, and DA Willis’ was verifiably at work or on crime scenes. After all this time, the Defense still has not established that the relationship began before 2022.
What??? Cannon is ignorant of the threats? No. No way.
Time to go to the 11th circuit and ask for Cannon's removal.
Thank you for your time and dedication to informing the public about these cases. Keep up the great work!
NGL, picturing Ben and Roger in Anna Bower drag is breaking my brain!
Love these debriefings
that self enrichment scheme is bs. not only did wade say he loses money for working for fulton county as special prosecutor, so did others that turned down the job. if willis wanted to enrich herself, she would have done better not hiring wade and let him rake in the $ with pvt clients.
That’s right. And if money were her priority, she’d be in private practice, I think.
Also, Willis has been pushing for a trial date for August. If she wanted to enrich herself, why not drag this out?
So glad to see the esteemed editor Wittes comfortably ensconced in the hammock chair. I have been so damn uncomfortable watching him wearing button-downs and jackets and sitting in normal chairs. Wheeew!
Yeah, he was in rare form tonight!😂
WTF is Wittes in a sex swing? If he is I don't want to know about it. Anna Bower is an amazing fountain of great information on all this stuff. Kudos Anna.
Could Mr. Wade have checked in on Ms. Willis in the evenings with her safety in mind, months before they began their romantic association? Could he have offered a semblance of protection, knowing how threatened her safety had become? Surely she discussed the threats with him as a fellow prosecutor when the threats began and he, being a Southern gentleman, was worried about her. The death threats are SO unethical, I winced when the Defense charged her with unethical behavior. What about the threats?!
I dont understand on what basis these guys think Wade and Willis lied? What evidence convinced them of that likelihood?
When the attorney says it out loud in public he's obviously waived attorney-client privilege.
No love, attorney client privilege is a privilege that belongs to the client. Only the Client can waive the privilege.
@@MsGoodyTwoShoes But the remark was obviously a response to a query made in public by the client?
@@sumnergrey4301 what?
The trump side just wants to sully Willis' reputation
Where does it stop?
she knows the consequences of her dishonesty. she was not dishonest.
Has there been any discussion of exactly how the Georgia defendants were able to obtain cell phone location data? Is this just openly for sale? Was a court order needed?
Simple search
The records kept by wireless phone companies about the use of cell phones are immense and very detailed. Wireless companies keep records about when and where a phone call is made, when text messages are sent and received, and when data is transferred.
Obtaining Phone Records: Subpoena or Account Holder Request
All this phone activity data is available if you ask the wireless phone company to provide it to you, and you are still within the window of time that they keep their records. Unlike many other records, wireless phone records or call detail records (CDR), are not protected by the Stored Communications Act and are not protected by the Fourth Amendment. They can be obtained via subpoena or by request of the account holder via a notarized letter.
@@GuyMassicotte Apparently lawyers can get a court to issue subpoenas without a judge being involved.
Wittes freed from toilet dungeon 🎉
I watched the Fani Willis hearing. I'm not a lawyer (which is why I'm here) but I can't for the life of me understand how any of this is disqualifying in this particular case. I agree with Ben that McAfee is an excellent judge and very hard to read. I think he'll be fair. I also agree that the prosecutor was one of the worst I've seen in terms of his presentation (verbal, not digital). I don't believe Fani Willis giving the 'church speech' was all that bad - isn't that what prosecutors generally do, speak about why they're prosecuting their case against certain defendants? It certainly doesn't 'taint the jury pool' considering what the orange guy does on a daily basis. You don't have to be blind to know how racist he and his lawyers have been throughout every one of his trials (and his politics), particularly when it comes to Black female judges.
😂 Look at Anna’s face! She must have seen Ben in the wig!
oh sure,..but...where's Baby Canon?
the cross talk/rude overtalking of panelists makes concentrating and following along difficult. I know Ben thinks it's cute. it's not.
I understand Trump wants to include a list of Biden's childhood friends as part of the prosecution team and Cannon is inclined to agree. Woodward further explained never have I made the kind of money I'm being paid by Trump PACs to keep his accomplices from getting out of line and implicating the boss to be able to take my kids on a nice vacation. Cannon is not only the most effective defense lawyer on Trump's team but is also the least expensive. There was some point in the Fulton county fiasco where it got so stupid I couldn't put up with it anymore and turned it off. I have no idea how Mcafee, as fair as he seems to be stretching to be, didn't do the same thing. It's all based on a convoluted ridiculous conspiracy theory of some unsubstantiated financial gain based on the testimony of a couple of disgruntled people seeking some kind of revenge at various degrees. All brought to the attention of defense lawyers by local legal community gossip. Just sick shit. They were screwing for a while your honour just like adults sometimes do. Clearly that means you should just let Trump and all these other reprobates go untried for their obvious crimes.
Ben I encourage you to watch this back with an objective eye, and look at how many times you interrupt Anna (constantly) and how many times you interrupt Roger (never).
And the “OK you can say something, but first you have to show us your shirt” comment to
Anna was gross and sexist.
Trump was likely medicated by his handlers today 🤪
Or…..expecting to be found “not guilty,” before the election😂
ben, your conclusion is just bullshit
So infuriating that this man is allowed to have all these appeals and pauses PRE trial. After go ahead. Before. No. It’s enough. Ffs.