I swear I watched that rematch with Clips like 2-3 times; trying to make it debatable but Roc got out rapped, both times 😅 That’s his only clear, clear lost to me. And even then he was fighting. Phenomenal battler.
Plus he got good sportsmanship. He stands there quite listening to the opponents material. He dont bump or touch people but people always wanna touch him then the fans turn on Roc for getting mad whenever people provoke him
@@RowlexEnterprise sorry but he beat Pat Stay first and the third damn near a 30 if him and Pat didn’t get into it and Pat hit him with the rebuttal in the second round. 50 plus URL battles he got. Boy like 43-7. He lost clearly to clips, Rum, Magic, Danny Myers, Mook, Daylyt, and Shine. The rest are bodies and debatables give dude his flowers he’s a goat. Prepped meaning he had all 3 rounds each battle and never disappoints even if he loss. Never chokes. That’s what prepped mean. 🤦🏾♂️ even if u have him losing those battles he had all 3 rounds. Rest in peace to the goat Pat Stay.
Not to mention a larger percent of the culture is biting his styles! Especially the new guys! When a Battle Rapper says “ I will stab you from feet to jugular in one scheme that’s Tay Roc style” ! #gunbars Ms Hustle had a couple of Tay Roc ish like bars Vs Chess
Goodz,. U just gained MY GREATEST RESPECT bro!!! I even subscribed,because you didn't have to keep it 100 about ROC,as you did,. It took real humility,to speak so highly/and honestly about a whole other battle rapper,. Keep doing BIG things Sir Slickster,.
Tay Roc is the GOAT he has years of quotables and legendary bars and his resume is impeccable he has never ducked any smoke he also shows up and gives a great performance against top tiers and up and comers and he has been doing this since the very beginning of the URL
Lux has 3-4 good battles. Mook has 3-4 good battles. Hollow has 10+ good battles. Roc has 30+ good battles. Win or lose a good performance is a good performance
True but those 3-4 battles from guys like Lux and Mook shifted the culture every time. Mook and Lux is why battlers get paid what they get paid now instead of being paid a couple racks lol
@hakshustletv lux and Mook haven't shifted ish in years. They played their part, but if we're judging off you criteria, Cassidy would be the goat. Gets paid more and he told Mook 20 years ago "how you gone battle me with a style that I made up....WOW" And if you know battle rap then lux stole his 3rd round angle vs cal from verb so who really shifting the culture. Roc the goat
@@SHAFTMOSLEY Well you're talking about opinion which is cool (in terms of shifting the culture), I'm talking about facts. Lux vs Cal ushered in a whole new generation of battle rap fans and before Mook came back battlers were getting paid peanuts. If not for Lux and Mook continuously pushing the bag, the highest paid battler would probably be getting 15-20k at best at this point. When Mook said what he said look at how everything changed, it made it more attractive for better talent to take battling seriously. Also, Verbs 3rd was a moment not an entire round. Cass only came back and got that bag because by that point cats had made 80-100k in a battle otherwise he wouldn't even know what to ask for and wouldn't know there was money in it
Lux was my GOAT for years. As of after the Serius Jones battle, I changed it to Roc. My criteria is based on impact, consistency and body of work. Win or lose, Roc is at least top 5 in all those categories. No one in battle rap has a 15 year run like Roc. Some battlers might be more skilled, some battlers might have longer winning streaks but then they fall off, some battlers might be more popular but they're not as dominant at the height of their popularity. You said it best, Roc will always be Roc.
Im a huge fan of Chess. His Passion when he raps and pen is top tier, but he needs to figure it out because he is fucking his name up. That battle vs Bill Collector u can tell he was in his head to much trying not to choke.
Chess' problem is dehydration... Allegedly sippin lean, leads to constipation and gas. smoking and drinking also lead to; not only gas build up but, build-up of acid in the stomach that leads to ulcers, and acid reflux. Lil bro needs a detox, electrolytes, and balanced diet...
Verb really got y’all believing anything he says 😂 he’s been right with some of his takes about Chess but he definitely done spun things & lied Chess don’t even drink alcohol
Tbh if it wasn’t for the “holding the door situation” there wouldn’t even be a debate if Roc is the goat it took away his believability but as much as people think Roc is a sucka nobody notices that nobody has ever put hands on him in them “almost fights” I wonder why??? 🤔 He’s my GOAT for sure! The most consistent in the game!
Styles make fights… nobody can just beat everyone if that makes sense…. Because Mook will turn around and have 4 trash performances after beating Roc…. ROC is him EVERY BATTLE! That’s Goat shit
@@EyeCue23 mook Has been called the goat of battle rap roc was never labeled that he was just the gun bar king so mook was a very important battle for roc to win to level up as goat and he blew it.
@@richdior7137 mook and hitman was already godtiers by the time you felt like they lost those battles it was nothing more for them to prove they were the guys to beat the culture labeled mook the goat and hitman a godtier
I agree with Goodz...Roc love this shit! He's always prepared and he doesn't play with his opponents...On any league Roc bring Barz and he also bring the crowd out....
Roc Stay Consistent Never Slaccs Off Any Battle Doesn't Ducc Any Smoke Always Comes With 3 Solid Rounds And He Stays Professional Until The Other Battler Get Do Stupid Sh*t....He Not My Goat But He My 2nd Favorite Battler. Im Not Mad At Anybody Who Says He Is Tho... Good Video Goodz. 🫡
Tay Roc is my personal goat and I told him that to his face at your store when he was there. Bro takes it seriously every time he battles don’t matter who he facing big name small name. You gotta respect that. Even when he loses he loses better than some ppls wins. Roc is the definition of battle rap
I agree , he doesn’t take a battle for granted and he’s lyrical and delivery hits. Only ones with better wordplay within him is clips lux and Maybe surf.
No disrespect but if I had that Chess problem even once during a performance I would’ve went to figure out what it is, some sort of psychological evaluation or seek help from an health expert to find out what the issue was & then go from there when it comes to figuring out a solution. This has been an issue his entire career. Just unacceptable, smack should’ve told him years ago to go get that fixed and don’t comeback until it’s sorted
I been watching Chess battle before he even got to URL, and its sad to see he hasn't fixed or got over this performance issue. That being said regardless of how good his writing ability is he has to get sat down for a good while. Its been dam near a whole decade of choking and throwing up shit crazy. Choking back to back all three rounds is nasty work. This goes for Twork too
Clips is lazy & there’s nothing there with Mook. They battled once and said everything they needed to say. There’s a reason why Mook & Lux haven’t and probably will never complete their trilogy because some times everything that needed to be said has been said. The only two battles left for Roc on that level is Lux & EZ & I think he said he’d never battle Lux and he probably shouldn’t because he’d be too respectful and that EZ battle is a matter of EZ making peace with URL + I don’t think many care for it anymore, it’s one of those “if it happens it happens” type of battles
Roc is getting bad, but the fans still love it. Charlie's not even writing for the battles. When he writes, he's great every time. He's hurting his legacy, but not losing a step @@DowntownLaLife
He gave us a whole different Tay Roc when he went against DayLyt it was refreshing af and 🔥🔥🔥 and the first time he battled clips was the only time he got washed and that was the very beginning of his career. Bad take Goodz
Facts!!! Ave, Fonz, Jerry, sikh, swamp, the saga, loso need to be rewarded!!!! These guys come prepared with fire material at a consistent rate. Also URL need to come of the high horse and have that conversation with ward and Eazy!!! WHAT BETTER comeback card headliner than Eazy vs Award with how the climate is right now in battlerap?
When I hear people say Roc didn’t do what Lux or Mook did my response is they didn’t do what Roc did and couldn’t be that consistent on a big stage against damn near 3 generations of battle rappers. People forget how long he’s been doing this and they also forget he had a big choke, vowed to never let it happen again and kept his word for 10 + years!
Tay Rock is definitely A goat. I agree that there is more than 1 and the faces on Mt Rushmore change depending on who you ask. I am proud to see that Goods has matured and finally stopped lying about not watching other peoples battles.
I look at Roc like this...He may not be the best at 1 thing (maybe gunbar king), but he is in the conversation or top 5 in almost every skill or achievement a BR can posses..Also he doesn't take 6 months off and if you mention him you can show someone his work and ppl can see it. I don't think someone would hear Murda Mook and say that is the best BR ever, unless they grew up listening to him and his legacy impact.
Tay Roc is him. His losses are better than most ppl wins.
Exactly. Tay Roc went against ppl BEST performances and made it a war
I agree 💯
I swear I watched that rematch with Clips like 2-3 times; trying to make it debatable but Roc got out rapped, both times 😅 That’s his only clear, clear lost to me. And even then he was fighting. Phenomenal battler.
@@justadrum what you sound stupid you one of the stand that don’t have your own opinion
@@justadrumboi u drunk he killed clips da 2nd time
Tay Roc the only person in battle rap that never comes to play around. Always prepped, always comes with good material, and he WINS 85% of the time.
Most consistent battler in BR history.
Always prepped? he wasn’t against Pat Stay….Ill Will 🤔
Plus he got good sportsmanship. He stands there quite listening to the opponents material. He dont bump or touch people but people always wanna touch him then the fans turn on Roc for getting mad whenever people provoke him
@@RowlexEnterprise sorry but he beat Pat Stay first and the third damn near a 30 if him and Pat didn’t get into it and Pat hit him with the rebuttal in the second round. 50 plus URL battles he got. Boy like 43-7. He lost clearly to clips, Rum, Magic, Danny Myers, Mook, Daylyt, and Shine. The rest are bodies and debatables give dude his flowers he’s a goat. Prepped meaning he had all 3 rounds each battle and never disappoints even if he loss. Never chokes. That’s what prepped mean. 🤦🏾♂️ even if u have him losing those battles he had all 3 rounds. Rest in peace to the goat Pat Stay.
Not to mention a larger percent of the culture is biting his styles! Especially the new guys! When a Battle Rapper says “ I will stab you from feet to jugular in one scheme that’s Tay Roc style” ! #gunbars Ms Hustle had a couple of Tay Roc ish like bars Vs Chess
Goodz,. U just gained MY GREATEST RESPECT bro!!! I even subscribed,because you didn't have to keep it 100 about ROC,as you did,. It took real humility,to speak so highly/and honestly about a whole other battle rapper,. Keep doing BIG things Sir Slickster,.
Why is it so hard to not be a hater for black people???
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Tay Roc is the GOAT he has years of quotables and legendary bars and his resume is impeccable he has never ducked any smoke he also shows up and gives a great performance against top tiers and up and comers and he has been doing this since the very beginning of the URL
ROC is def the G.O.A.T 🐐ain’t nobody put on like him with the consistency of high level raps for as long as he has.
High performances regardless the opponent, can switch up his rl avatar 🧛🏽♂️😅 & consistent asl 💯💯
Jaz is the goat. Tell roc to stop running.
@@rarerock5020lol
@williammcclung6092 what you laughing at? You see what happens when they don't run. Ask ghotti, clips, nitty. The list goes on, and on, and on.
Roc can't be the goat if lux goodz and clips are better
Lux has 3-4 good battles. Mook has 3-4 good battles. Hollow has 10+ good battles. Roc has 30+ good battles. Win or lose a good performance is a good performance
True but those 3-4 battles from guys like Lux and Mook shifted the culture every time. Mook and Lux is why battlers get paid what they get paid now instead of being paid a couple racks lol
@hakshustletv lux and Mook haven't shifted ish in years. They played their part, but if we're judging off you criteria, Cassidy would be the goat. Gets paid more and he told Mook 20 years ago "how you gone battle me with a style that I made up....WOW" And if you know battle rap then lux stole his 3rd round angle vs cal from verb so who really shifting the culture. Roc the goat
@@SHAFTMOSLEYthe last time Mook showed he was that guy was when he went against roc
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@@SHAFTMOSLEY Well you're talking about opinion which is cool (in terms of shifting the culture), I'm talking about facts. Lux vs Cal ushered in a whole new generation of battle rap fans and before Mook came back battlers were getting paid peanuts. If not for Lux and Mook continuously pushing the bag, the highest paid battler would probably be getting 15-20k at best at this point. When Mook said what he said look at how everything changed, it made it more attractive for better talent to take battling seriously. Also, Verbs 3rd was a moment not an entire round. Cass only came back and got that bag because by that point cats had made 80-100k in a battle otherwise he wouldn't even know what to ask for and wouldn't know there was money in it
Tay is definitely one of the goats on the farm… The almost fighting shit is lame but hes spits 🤙🏽
Big facts
Nah Chess has been battling for over 10 years on stage ain't no way he's still getting butterflies on stage.
@ClayJunior-lf2qe 💯
Well something ain’t right
Roc is the goat. Goodz is right on the chess issue. Shoutout to Goodz though, I ever recall him choking.
Tay roc is one of the most dedicated battlers in 1the game. Consistent bar work, always shows up and never disappoints no matter what
Roc the only person who can ask for whatever he want from smack and every other league.
He’s been top tier in every era
That’s a fucking lie!! That dusty musty fruit was throwing up on camera like chess when url turned its lights on
He’s definitely the goat most consistent never falling off and takes everyone serious
Much respect Goodz for showing love and speaking highly of another battle rapper!!
Nobody and I mean nobody had more battles then Tay and been as consistent as him that makes him the only GOAT
Roc is definitely consistent well prepared with great material and 9/10 he wins his battles
Nah
Ray roc for sure is the 🐐 💯‼️who else been putting up like roc consistently 👀💯💪🏽🐐roc🐐
Lux was my GOAT for years. As of after the Serius Jones battle, I changed it to Roc. My criteria is based on impact, consistency and body of work. Win or lose, Roc is at least top 5 in all those categories. No one in battle rap has a 15 year run like Roc. Some battlers might be more skilled, some battlers might have longer winning streaks but then they fall off, some battlers might be more popular but they're not as dominant at the height of their popularity. You said it best, Roc will always be Roc.
Im a huge fan of Chess. His Passion when he raps and pen is top tier, but he needs to figure it out because he is fucking his name up. That battle vs Bill Collector u can tell he was in his head to much trying not to choke.
URL goat for sure. There’s multiple goats overall and he’s def one of em. Top 10 if we talking the entire history of publicized battle rap
GOAT OF BATTLE RAP WHATCHU TALKING ABOUT
Chess' problem is dehydration... Allegedly sippin lean, leads to constipation and gas. smoking and drinking also lead to; not only gas build up but, build-up of acid in the stomach that leads to ulcers, and acid reflux. Lil bro needs a detox, electrolytes, and balanced diet...
Would say maybe but I’m sure a lot of these battlers are on all of that and don’t mess up like Chess
Excuses
Verb really got y’all believing anything he says 😂 he’s been right with some of his takes about Chess but he definitely done spun things & lied Chess don’t even drink alcohol
The only thing that you brought up was alcohol, the kid smokes so fhe dehydration thing is definitely an issue.@@NewWarleans17
Nigga what?? 😂😂😂 when has chess ever drunk lean ??
Roc might not be the most talented battler ever,but his resume speaks for itself and I’m not mad at anybody calling him a Goat at this point.
Facts he’s not the most gifted
Tbh if it wasn’t for the “holding the door situation” there wouldn’t even be a debate if Roc is the goat it took away his believability but as much as people think Roc is a sucka nobody notices that nobody has ever put hands on him in them “almost fights” I wonder why??? 🤔 He’s my GOAT for sure! The most consistent in the game!
Yes he is by far💯💪🏽
Goodz you dressed like the coolest uncle at the Pop Warner game! 😅
Salute 🫡 💯
Facts, people like different style but to have his resume and still give those performances is amazing and he is consistent and prepared.
Goods ur content has pure substance as well as solid content keep shining and grinding we tune in over here
Hands down
Danny Myers & JC fall into that same category as Tay Roc too because they’ll battle anyone as well & put on a show no matter what as well
Absolutely
Facts
“I can’t take him for 3 rounds”….no diddy😂
Roc is 100% the 🐐 he been that dude in every Era
ITS HARD TO CALL HIM THE GOAT WHEN PEOPLE LIKE MOOK DAY AND HITMAN BEAT HIM EASY I JUST THINK HES THE MOST CONSISTENT.
Styles make fights… nobody can just beat everyone if that makes sense…. Because Mook will turn around and have 4 trash performances after beating Roc…. ROC is him EVERY BATTLE! That’s Goat shit
But then how can you call Mook and hitman the goat when people like twork and big K and verb beat Mook easy....... And hitman lost to Cassidy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@EyeCue23 mook Has been called the goat of battle rap roc was never labeled that he was just the gun bar king so mook was a very important battle for roc to win to level up as goat and he blew it.
@@richdior7137 mook and hitman was already godtiers by the time you felt like they lost those battles it was nothing more for them to prove they were the guys to beat the culture labeled mook the goat and hitman a godtier
You almost have to have the best performance of your career to beat roc
Goodz thank you for being consistent in and out the ring.
DNA might be a debate
Tay roc never disappoints
Goodz Da Animal putting up blogger numbers and subscribers, Salute Gz 🫡
That camera is too good. We see all them measles bumps on the side of your face 😂
With that said About Tay Roc even tho hes probably not he should be the highest paid battle rapper LIKE IF U AGREE
💯 on these points fam.
When you take consistency, performance, stage presence, crowd control, and bars and you wrap it all in one, you get Tay Roc. Tay Roc is the goat
Tay roc is top 10 but top 3 consistent battlers he always putting in work good content
Honestly watching goodz video be worth watching just to hear him give a review on stuff he say he didn't watch lmao
I think Danny Mayers is in the same lane as Roc. i mean Danny battled a kid n probably someones grandma both with the same energy lol
U just got a new follower from your humble respect for someone in your same field speaks highly of u brother✨✨✨✨
Tay roc really the 🐐
Tay Roc stood in front of some of the best rounds ever
Hes Russell Westbrook of battle rap tbh
Yeah Roc definitely the Goat. It use to be Charlie Clips Arsonel Hollow and Disaster but they are getting worse while Roc is getting better
I agree with Goodz...Roc love this shit!
He's always prepared and he doesn't play with his opponents...On any league Roc bring Barz and he also bring the crowd out....
idc wat anyone say he is the goat n the most consistent ever
A goat can loose a couple battles and still be the goat
Roc Stay Consistent Never Slaccs Off Any Battle Doesn't Ducc Any Smoke Always Comes With 3 Solid Rounds And He Stays Professional Until The Other Battler Get Do Stupid Sh*t....He Not My Goat But He My 2nd Favorite Battler. Im Not Mad At Anybody Who Says He Is Tho... Good Video Goodz. 🫡
Tay Roc is my personal goat and I told him that to his face at your store when he was there. Bro takes it seriously every time he battles don’t matter who he facing big name small name. You gotta respect that. Even when he loses he loses better than some ppls wins. Roc is the definition of battle rap
I agree , he doesn’t take a battle for granted and he’s lyrical and delivery hits. Only ones with better wordplay within him is clips lux and Maybe surf.
JC too and Chills Jones also Daylyt and Pazzwurdz
No disrespect but if I had that Chess problem even once during a performance I would’ve went to figure out what it is, some sort of psychological evaluation or seek help from an health expert to find out what the issue was & then go from there when it comes to figuring out a solution. This has been an issue his entire career. Just unacceptable, smack should’ve told him years ago to go get that fixed and don’t comeback until it’s sorted
Yes Tay Roc is the goat 🐐!!
Remembering your material should always be first priority
ROC IS DA GOAT HANDS DOWN, NOTHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT💯💯
Goodz jacket looks like a marvel superhero outfit
ROC da most consistent for da longest period of time…n one of da most explosive ones…he on some Lebron shit 🐐
Roc definitely da G.O.A.T.
Goodz,...you da goat, for saying that about tay roc 💯
This was some real 💯 sh*t!!! Shoutout ta Goodz... that's fire you can speak so highly of Roc while everybody alive and well keep going solider
I been watching Chess battle before he even got to URL, and its sad to see he hasn't fixed or got over this performance issue. That being said regardless of how good his writing ability is he has to get sat down for a good while. Its been dam near a whole decade of choking and throwing up shit crazy. Choking back to back all three rounds is nasty work. This goes for Twork too
Bro honestly never seen Roc Choke or stumble , Mook Also Goodz himself rarely chokes , idk I say it’s lux still
@wordsworthbklyn I mean yea , Roc maybe top 5 ever maybe the most consistent
Top 3 as of now
1.mook
2.Roc
3.Goodz
Roc is the 🐐 given everything he has done and continues to do. Been consistent win or lose with the same energy and doesn't take time off
Tay Roc is the Goat of battle rap, Dont matter the losses he took everyone loses but overall he the goat
Shoutout to you Goods!!🙌🏾🤝
I think Roc should Battle clips for the trilogy and probably have a trilogy with Mook to add to his legacy 👑
that would be dope
Trilogy with mook? They only battes once fam? They would need to battle two more times. 😅
Clips is lazy & there’s nothing there with Mook. They battled once and said everything they needed to say. There’s a reason why Mook & Lux haven’t and probably will never complete their trilogy because some times everything that needed to be said has been said. The only two battles left for Roc on that level is Lux & EZ & I think he said he’d never battle Lux and he probably shouldn’t because he’d be too respectful and that EZ battle is a matter of EZ making peace with URL + I don’t think many care for it anymore, it’s one of those “if it happens it happens” type of battles
I think Charlie clips would beg to differ that question about roc being the g.o.a.t. lol
Charlie is getting worse while Roc is getting better
Roc is getting bad, but the fans still love it. Charlie's not even writing for the battles. When he writes, he's great every time. He's hurting his legacy, but not losing a step @@DowntownLaLife
Clips is terrible. Watch him ruin the battle with Jag soon.
I agree totally with everything said thus far
Pat stat lit his ass up but sure he’s probably one of the most consistent battlers out there
I believe that it is a matter of preference. Because I actually rank you a tad bit higher because of the swag of your delivery
He gave us a whole different Tay Roc when he went against DayLyt it was refreshing af and 🔥🔥🔥 and the first time he battled clips was the only time he got washed and that was the very beginning of his career. Bad take Goodz
Chess go crazy when he ready him and eazy had me turnt up
That was 2 years ago. Chess is probably the most talented guy in battlerap, but this is awful at best.
Facts!!!
Ave, Fonz, Jerry, sikh, swamp, the saga, loso need to be rewarded!!!! These guys come prepared with fire material at a consistent rate. Also URL need to come of the high horse and have that conversation with ward and Eazy!!! WHAT BETTER comeback card headliner than Eazy vs Award with how the climate is right now in battlerap?
I can’t take him for 3 rounds was SUPER crazy
Tay definitely in that conversation he’s been the most consistent never took a long period a time off and active and still hungry
We get the same tay roc every time and he shows up if the person 🔥 or garbage that’s working and loving ya job he is the Goat humbly
Yeah King you gave your opinion with no hate at all 💯
It can only be 1 goat my guy. It’s a reason it’s called greatest of all time
When I hear people say Roc didn’t do what Lux or Mook did my response is they didn’t do what Roc did and couldn’t be that consistent on a big stage against damn near 3 generations of battle rappers. People forget how long he’s been doing this and they also forget he had a big choke, vowed to never let it happen again and kept his word for 10 + years!
Tay Roc is the GOAT he has the greatest story and went up the ladder the tough way and he is the most consistent
That green jacket is fire! 🔥
Goodz talkin dat ish 🔥🔥🔥
Chess, Twork even Surf for a while kept messing up
BUT STAYED GETTING BOOKED..
Goodz is right 100%
One thing I like about goodz he not sugarcoating shit 😂😂😂😂
He talking facts bout roc "get 'em roc"
Tay Rock is definitely A goat. I agree that there is more than 1 and the faces on Mt Rushmore change depending on who you ask. I am proud to see that Goods has matured and finally stopped lying about not watching other peoples battles.
Right that’s a great breakdown why tay roc one the greatest 💯💯💯
Tay roc most definitely with out a question one of the goats and top 5 or 2 for sure.
I hate car blogging lol but bro that green clothing fit made it right right….yellow for honey green for the money….slick talk nation
Roc is a God of URL and a Goat 🐐 of battle Rap
He's in that legendary class mostly everybody who battled in that den was a killer.
He's definitely in the short list of the greats easily 💯 just keeping it a rack.
That interior is so hard🔥🔥🔥 what whip you riding in goodz? Looks like a benz s class or maybach.
Top 5, 10, 20, 50 someone has to be #1
I look at Roc like this...He may not be the best at 1 thing (maybe gunbar king), but he is in the conversation or top 5 in almost every skill or achievement a BR can posses..Also he doesn't take 6 months off and if you mention him you can show someone his work and ppl can see it. I don't think someone would hear Murda Mook and say that is the best BR ever, unless they grew up listening to him and his legacy impact.
Roc is battle rap respectfully arguably one of the best battle catalog
Tay Roc definitely the goat he shows up every time