Dead Rising BETA - The "Tone" Change Explained
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- Опубликовано: 25 сен 2017
- Something I should have explained better in the past is now finally getting a spotlight...
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"You don't have to take Dead Rising so seriously"
- Man who hunts down dead rising beta builds
Lol true
Even with the colored zombies, and the happy atmosphere in the final version. I felt the game very spooky with the uncountable zombies in the mall. Especially in the night, when the lights turn off, and the zombies turn more agresive, with their red eyes in the dark.
Imagine if there were twice as much zombies that can spawn in the mall, and an even greater ai.
Buenas, tus vídeos están buenardos
I remember being mind blown seeing how many zombies where on screen on L4D2, yall can probably guess how I reacted to seeing that zombie count being doubled or tripled for the first time with Dead Rising
For me the "dark" aspects of the game lie in its "survivor death cutscenes" where we see people shoot themselves, have guts ripped open, turned into zombies, literally ripped apart. It's very scary when you look at it.
When a male survivor is killed by a female zombie, it's hard not to laugh at it tbh. The female zombies almost always get on top of the dude in the 69 position and bites his crotch off.
Security room from Pre-E3 build looks like it's oiled up
For real
Speaking of Resident Evil 4, I wish we could see all the beta builds, including the nicknamed Hookman build.
Check out this RE Beta channel: ruclips.net/user/TyrantREB
He buys RE builds and plays them while archiving some gameplay of these builds but will warn you that the quality of the video feels kinda bad. Also, here's some interesting RE4 beta content! ruclips.net/video/FS4z1NvBwsM/видео.html
Goblin Rabblemaster ....seems like the sound design was more unsettling in the beta builds, it's nice to see though thanks.
@@GoblinSatyr Wow, thank's for this man, these are the TWO games I want to see beta builds for!
I’m also very curious about the Hookman build
@@averagechadlegionary5824 Clock-Tower 4
My personal favorite is the TGS build. I love the dissonance between the horrifying zombies and cheery mall, and I almost think it would fit even better with the theme of the story kind of being a corruption of the seeming innocence of a cheery small-town mall.
That's what a younger me thought when he played the Wii port.
It's honestly quite amazing to see how many ideas they had. Personally they all have their appeal. I would've loved a combo of all 3 or just 2 of them. The dark creepy vibe at night would've added more to the mall being shut down for the day and not totally ruin the more warm and welcoming appeal it has in day time.
For me DR1 felt more serious and more of a thrill/horror theme with the comedy and lite hearted fuckery was a bi-product of the mall and what we as players could do. Especially when compared to the sequels that seemed to focus more on comedy with zombies just thrown in.
Yeah dead rising was always a serious story game, the humor was made by the player, fuck even dead rising 3 understood that.
DR3's tone is actually closer the DR1 than DR2. I wish from now on they will keep that tone instead of DR2's
All 3 versions have their own different appeals in my opinion. And I would've been happy with either direction.
I will say this though... Dead Rising 2 should've amped up the dark and gory vibe. It would've fit the drama themed story more if the zombies and the environment was way darker and more gruesome.
Just like in the first game, there is something about a happy everyday location contrasting the violent and destructive nature of zombies that just makes it work. Having the zombies look goofy and cartoony kills that vibe, at least for the most part.
Dead Rising 3 & 4 failed to deliver on the horror end of things because it just felt too fucking goofy. Fart jokes, fighting a fat lady on a scooter, Frank acting like a goofball etc. It all numbs the horror aspect of the game, and eventually your horror game turns into an action adventure comedy zombie game targeted at the Call of Duty crowd (which is actually what Capcom did, believe it or not).
SWEGTA I personally loved the goofy, cheesy vibe of dead rising 2 as it felt like an old campy zombie movie
Your opinion is wrong
That fat lady on the scooter in 3 made me feel right at home with the psychos. Infact she may be one of my favorites, i feel like you fans are just looking for reasons to praise the original, because 3 definitely had a darker tone.
I loved OTR.It was just the perfect middle ground between camp and dark.Frank makes it all work!
3 was plenty dark. The opening was pretty gloomy, with being low on health, walking through the fenced zombie area, the plan crash...
Especially fights against psychopaths like Albert. The doctor.
There's something kind of creepy to me about low res graphics, like on the TGS build. It makes me feel uneasy, and it's not pleasant to look at.
You should consider uploading a few, "let's plays" of the earlier builds since you have them.
i think the comedy aspect of the final deadrising kinda reminds us that: not much seperates us from the psychopaths; only difference is, we're having fun killing the zombies; not survivors: and there in lies the problem
we dont give ANY thought to the countless zombies we slay; but they used to be people, like us, like the survivors we lead to the security room; and here we are having fun at their expense
Your the reason i bought the first and the second dead rising, and i didn't regret at all, thanks man.
TGS just makes me feel cold and sulky and I kinda like it, but dead rising was always about fucking around and the cool psychopaths so I think the finalized version was best for what the series is worth, but I would've loved to see something serious like TGS.
Man, thanks to you I became a Dead Rising fan. Very interesting videos. I love this game so much.
Now this is my opinion but i think they could of used both models the newer zombies and the older zombies in the final version of the game mainly because if you think about it zombies will constantly decay so having models show that kind of detail like for example the older zombies would of been a nice touch because it shows people that some of the zombies were around longer than others and their bodies were starting to show that and the newer zombies could of been used for recently zombified survivors or story related character deaths.
Damn, I'm late, but this is genius. Wish it happened, as to give the later days in-game a darker feel, while the first day would be brighter.
@@Ghosty6464 true
Also putting the pale ghoulish ones in the underground parts
I don't understand how you don't get bored playing this, the most I've played this was an year almost everyday but keep doing what you do
i have a facebook photo of me when i was like 5 playing this and i always felt like i loved the darkness of the game. i knew it was pretty colorful and jokingly for a “horror” game, also not for my age at the time, but i still really loved it. especially when it got dark out and going on the pause menu for long periods of time because i was horrified of the game. i felt like if they kept the dark aspect i would’ve totally taken a lot longer finishing the game when i did, but honestly that was like the best first serious game i learned and tried to finish by myself.
It's amazing that ther's a whole channel dedicated to one of my favorite games of all time
the guy who does boundray break sent me, nice channel
I want to play the first beta!
I also love that outfit Frank has.
I enjoyed the first dead rising played the 360 version and remastered version so many things i want to cover as well but lots of tiny pieces to find the right format also everybody talking about dead rising 5 its turning into a grand theft auto 6 problem on twitter
There's a remastered version of Dead Rising!?
Galactic Magic Basically the Xbox One, PS4, and PC versions that came out in 2016
@@toozigooti, Yep and a remake coming this year.
Wow, you’re a true deadrising fan!! Refreshing to see someone love a game so much! Cool vid
I would love to play the Pre E3 build
I just love the gory and scary look of the zombies and the dark mall
I feel like the first Dead Rising still has a way darker tone than Dead Rising 2 which is probably down to the project being handed over to Blue Castle Games/Capcom Vancouver.
@@jamesedleymusic I mean Las Vegas can't have a dark tone :)
I love all the builds but you have to think if they didn't make it they way it turned out to be, would we have it now(would this group exist? would you be a dead rising fan still?would we have discovered the game in the first place?would this comment exist? I don't know but you have to think, the slightest change in things alters history
I still remember playing this game's demo a ton on my Xbox 360 when I got it in 2009. It was really fun. it took place in the mall and all I did was run around killing the zombies as as soon as went any where outside of the main mall area where there was a cutscene the demo ended.
Really cool video. Definitely deserves more views.
1:50 anyone else notice some of the zombies was Cheryl, Jolie, Simone, and Sally?
you are the reason that i bought dead rising :)
Odix He's the reason I consider the first game my favorite. Noticing how much detail was put into 1 made me realize how much work was put into it. (Not saying the others are bad by design, I'm saying those small aspects of DR1 is something I appreciate more)
I love your channel and your voice!
Dead Rising is the best zombie game ever!
Good job
Your idea of "scary ghouls" look like the blue man group. The change in colour temperature just looks like they changed the way it was rendered
came here from Shesez and these are sick vids STiPo
Pretty chill video, dawg. Good info all around as well. You're like my polar opposite! xD That sub button is getting lit up, homie! ;D
Watching all your videos while farming for the mega blaster
Personally I prefer the third build simply because the zombies are the survivors. Like, most of them, they're just based on survivor models rather than being unique zombie models, which works with survivors dying, because they won't look out of place in a crowd of themselves.
nothing will be more spooky then trying to go into the park and hearing the convicts music blast through your room
Suprised I haven't seen anyone mention the Resident Evil reference in the TGS trailer with the words "No Unbrella"
I also believe that the "Happy tone" the game gives off is scary, think about it, happy, bright mall with shops aplenty with cool, awesome and dump shit in there, a place a kid would love then infest it with the undead, that happy look is still there but it's also coated in some spots of a thick, red liquid and guts and bone everywhere, that happy tone is there but with everything that's going on, with the dead and the psychopaths roaming about (Especially that cult) it adds a sense of dread to that happy tone, making it more scary which I think is awesome, you see the happy tone, then the dead, then the psychos and you know that Today, is going to be far from a happy day
Im Happy With What We Got In Dead Rising. I hate wet dark looking walls Good Video.
I heard one reason they changed the first version of res4 was because the story made it feel super natural instead of what we wanted because the virus could control random objects so it sort of seemed like a haunted building instead
Funny thing is that the original RE was going to be about the supernatural, until it was later decided to be about zombies and viruses.
Jordan Foster and the main enemy was apparently to hard to animate "realistically" lol. They did bring it back (kinda) as the uroborous monster (by the way, what a bullshit boss, I seriously spent 30 minutes fighting it in veteran and then just said "Faaaack it!" And shot it once with a rocket launcher
Jordan Foster There’s actually footage of this build of RE4 where Leon is running away from possessed dolls and stuff. While interesting, I’m glad they went with what we know RE4 as today because the early builds didn’t feel like RE at all
thanks for saying that about watchdogs lol
I really like the lightning on the tgs build
i've never played dead rising, i likely never will but i still enjoy these videos. I do not know why.
the dark aesthetic is less noticeable? the final hours of the first part were horrifying and super dark
I imagine the Xbox Summit Beta is like the holy grail of Dead Rising Betas
Stipo is srsly so underrated
I wish we could play the 0.50, 0.70, Tokyo, and Pre-E3 builds. Is there a place I can download them?
Track one down on ebat
Ahhh Deadrising the game that got me over my fear of zombies as a kid
You've got some serious obsession with this game
I feel like Pre E3 was trying to pay homage to Silent Hill 2 or 3.
It makes sense, I suppose they saw how silly it was and just kept going in that direction rather than try to keep it serious which I'm sure they could have done if they ever wanted to.
I wish Capcom would fix the bugs on off the record for PS4. Who do I even contact? They definitely didn't play test that game
JTtopcat What bugs?
Fatstro The physics are broken. You can't even jump on the boxes to break them. Tiny pylons, signs, and stools stop your movement and it's annoying. The blood that gets on your character is glitchey and clips in and out and it looks awful. There is also some messed up audio but that's pretty minor.
JTtopcat They gotta fix the bugs in dr1 too on PS4 haha
HighOnRedvinezz Doesn't it always crash going for the mega buster or 7 day survivor?
I bet they won't. The ps4 port was based on the PC version that hasn't been updated in years.
I am curious about how you felt about the look of Dead Rising 3
Yeah yeah I know its not a very good game, but if you haven't noticed DR3 did have a fairly serious look and even slightly scary yet it is one of the reasons people disliked it.
Honestly in my opinion I really don't like the dark stage of Dead Rising because I probably only played the original after having played the insanely vibrant Dead Rising 2.
Yet another youtuber I appreciate that DR3 was dark, but WAY too goddamn dark, but as much as 3 was centered on just "zombie Killing lol", it somewhat captured an attempt at horror
DR3 felt weird. It felt like a mix of something grindhousey with Rhonda having a mecha arm by the end and full on horror. There is a reason why people dislike it though, because by DR2 the vibrant colors contrasting a serious story was established.
I had always heard that the reason DR3 looked like it did is because the American audience complained about it being "too japanese" because of the goofyness and colors. I've always blamed Call of Duty because this would imply that they might have looked at something with vary neutral samey colors that americans enjoy (stupid ass Call of Duty) and based the changes on that. This is all proof-less though and i wouldn't use it in any sort of argument or debate.
suprqt I highly doubt anybody that's said that. Nobody I've seen has complained about the game looking all nice and colorful in the time I've been a fan of the games.
Plus, you can't really say "it's too Japanese" because it's got more color. Even if we're "used to Call of Duty".
I do believe the zombies we have in Dead Rising are creepier than the ghoulish zombies that were supposed to be, because of the uncanny valley. It would be interesting to see the ghouls in the final version of dead rising.
What makes and made dead rising great is that it's a perfect blend of humour and horror
Dope videooooooo
The night in the final release was really scary, but I always took the game seriously because I absolutely sucked when I played it, and couldn’t even get past case 7
1:13 stupid ass question but why the hell is Frank holding Katey at the top right of the DR forums XD
Anybody? Somebody? Is anyone there? Hello?
Dead rising had you on your toes when playing to uncover the truth of willamette mall. Ever minute was important in order for the case to not expire, along with saving other survivors in the mall. I believe that the colorful atmospheres and the not so scary dead zombies are perfect ! After completing a case you are given some what of a break to do what you like, saving survivors, zombie killing spree, and/or explore the mall, 😏. This is meant to be a stress release without being timed on a case or saving survivors (if that makes sense).
Or whatever \_(ツ)_/¯
Nice to know jesse was meant to die since gen 1 and wasn't just a last minute decision for shock.
Are all the dead rising build discs available for download?
When playing DR1, I definitely feel like there was a war amongst developers about the tone of the game. The opening cutscene of the mother and daughter in the car doesn't feel like the world of Dead Rising. The survivor death scenes are extremely brutal. One of the first survivors you can rescue describes in detail her baby getting eaten by those monsters. And it feels needlessly edgy for the military to come in and execute all the survivors you worked hard to save in between story missions. Even the endings leave things on a hopeless note if you decide to actually do the story, with Frank West being likely dead until sequels confirmed he and Isabella actually survived somehow. These choices in the narrative really bring down the vibe of the game for me and is why I ultimately prefer the sequel.
The prologue cutscene fits the world of DR1 wonderfully, even if it's out of place relative to what we experience in the game. It showcases that not everyone can be a fighter like Frank, and the contrast it provides is why it's so good. The survivors are also not executed by the military, as Otis says he escaped with people and they still are recognized as 'safe' beyond that point - it would be incredibly stupid of the devs to explicitly kill all survivors the players saved since it's the main objective outside of case missions, which is why they didn't. DR2's story is so mediocre in comparison because of bad pacing, bad choreography, unemotive voice acting, no rapport built with supporting characters, inferior psychopaths, and nonsensical antagonists.
@@Halagini When a DR1 survivor dies with a gun in their hand, the camera cuts to show them blowing their brains out. So heck yeah the military came in and killed all the survivors. When Frank overheard all that gunfire before entering the safehouse, what do you think they could have been firing at in there? Why doubt what the game is telling you in that scene? But you're free to prefer DR1's tonal shifts if you want. I'm just saying it bothered me to sit through.
@@ZappBranniglennyear late but the soldiers were shooting at Jessie who he turned into a zombie which literally happened in the previous cutscene
it'd be nice if they released the old 2005 version. it looks darker and scarier.
The way you hunt down those dead rising builds is frightening
"Version of Dead Rising we all fell in love with as KIDS".
The feeling of being old as fuck when you were 19 when this game was released...
good stuff
I kinda wish they would have kept the nasty gory zombies.
Does anyone know who made the beat in the background of this video? I couldn't find it with Shazam. Thanks! :)
where do you get the builds?
It bothered me when he said "feeled" instead of "felt" lmao
@@STiP0 no worries im still binge watching, i love this game. New sub👌
And yet mighty no.9 happened
I kinda disagree on Dead Rising being light hearted, however only to a certain extent. Like others have said Dead Rising has a very serious tone during story moments, cutscenes, and when dealing with survivors. Everybody in the story takes this situation seriously and does not treat it as a joke. The comedy comes the juxtaposition of all that against what the player is allowed to do in the game and how we mess around in this sandbox. I was entirely compelled by the stories of Cliff and Adam, grew to hate Carlito and Ronald, and Frank as a character I grew to love. I think the balance of horror and comedy is what gives dead rising its unique identity along with its unique gameplay premise. All this is something later entries didn't understand and went overboard with the comedic side of the franchises and neglected the horror of the situation, which ruined the unique atmosphere dead rising 1 had.
Also as a point, I get why they went with the zombie designs they did. The reason they might not have gone with the more ghoulish designs is that they wanted something more realistic and off putting given the setting. They chose what they did because these ARE normal people who were bitten and turned, they've only been like this for maybe a day or two max. They wouldn't be facing such decomposition yet where they're faces are melting off. I would have appreciated some damage shown on them in form of say what look like battle scars of people who tried to fight back and failed, but given when this came out I understand why they didn't due to graphical and time limitations. But having this uncanny valley effect with the zombies I really think helps sell that these were once people who lived in Willamette now turned into zombies, not just ghouls who could have come from anywhere.
is it possible to mod the old zombies back in, i prefer them 100 percent over what we got
"The version of Dead Rising we all fell in love with *as kids*[...]"
Showing your own age here.
I think that the beta version of DR was too similar to Shadow of Rome, the IP Dead Rising comes from.
Background Music?
"Feeled" , lol....
Notification squad lol
how come the numbers on his beta discs are censored?
1:51 Simone as a human in the background?
How and where did you get the discs?
Jonas Tisell Private collectors
Arnt there mods for the old darker look?
As long as the characters take things seriously I dont care how silly the world is
How dead rising "felt" not "feeled"
"feeled"
>Feeled
That first darkness looks soo cheap though :/ like the failed lighting of Crysis. Like it looks good but man does it look cheap.
I was 3 when I played dead rising 1
I think that it should be changeable in the settings
Right
8:07
Lv:255?!
Did...you say "How it once looked, played, and feeled"?
LOL, i think so.
am i the only one that doesn't see a difference to the las vegas build and the final build?
Brian Reynolds is dead?! Nooooooooo!
*THEY'RE DEAD JIM!*
Dang son
3:38 LMAO
Lol watchdogs beta vs watchdogs release
ahh dead rising 1 when the games were actually good and a real 10 out of 10
Dead Rising kept changing itself to become what it was. Dead Rising 4 is an example of a company with no adaption skills.
So many companies fall for this trap.
Pre E3 would have been too scary for me.
Idk what you smoking pal but DR1 zombies look narly. DR2 zombies however do looks worse in comparison like just regular infected and not the dead mangled corpses