Yes, I know. The thing is that this piece isn't excruciatingly difficult to learn if I play the notes at like 1/5th the speed that it should be. The much MUCH bigger challenge is getting it sped up, playing all those double sixty-fourth notes at the speed Kissen is doing it is incredibly difficult. I just can't do it any faster than like 1/5th the speed he does it. If I even try it at a moderately faster pace, which is still much slower than Kissen's playing it, I start stumbling big time hitting many wrong notes. Geez Kissen you piano genius, how do you do it!!?
C'est vraiment incroyable comment Evgeny Kissin arrive à jouer cette oeuvre terriblement difficile avec une telle simplicité, sans sembler se fatiguer les doigts, et sans la moindre fausse note... Du génie avec une musicalité parfaite.
Wonderful, inspiring work. I've always admired Kissin's musicianship and his painstaking craftsmanship. It's a joy just to look at such independent fingers play so many double notes!
I don't get why people always say that when played fast these etudes loose some poetry. Kissin here puts all the right accents, emotions needed PLUS it really feels like fast flying feux follets, exciting, a technical achievement. Liszt was absolutely playing it at that speed even if Allegretto is marked.
Adele Marcus has stated that when the great Josef Lhevinne played Feux Follets, the listener had the impression of a bee buzzing around his head, so light and ethereal was Lhevinne's performance.
I'm happy to read your reply, kuglagerfeld, thanks. that's exactly what I think, when reading some of the comments. people are so trained to judge everything into good and bad and to experience the world through the limiting grid of their opinions. this is really sad. but there are many others who appreciate and are respectful. may you have good concerts with really openhearted and openminded people, who will (naturally) enjoy your music.
I agree, it's not about who's the best - who could ever judge that? - it's rather about really listening to this wonderful music and interpretation, far beyond concepts and criticism. if you do that, then you'll find beauty even in the piano-playing of a beginner, not to mention the masters. the use of harsh words though, is also contaminating, poisoning the comments. music is about the beauty of the heart and mind, isn't it?
I agree with you chlaebrig. I needed to say it this way , because where ever you go to listen, concert, youtube , etc. you always hear people criticizing like they are all Gods. I am a pianist myself and I have good international results. I know how hard it is to prepare for the competition, or for recital. This profession is among the hardest professions in the world and people usually have comments like you see here. I am totally against those opinions and way of listening to music.
@chlaebrig you're right, we shouldn't judge, but music is especially about music.. with heart and mind could be love or other feelings. Music is something more
Avner Chaim not really... the technical demands of the hardest passage of this etude are more than the hardest passage of the rondo... the rondo’s just 3x as long
@@alvexok5523 From my own experience, the double notes at 0.34 - 1.06 are the hardest to play in full tempo. When you can play them, the rest of the piece feels easier.
I don't disagree with you, but we need to consider that they are mostly 32th notes. Four 32th notes in the time of an 8th note... I don't know whether this is reasonable.
Liszt was impressed by the opening double-note thrill in thirds followed by a chromatic scale in thirds of Chopin's Etude in G# minor, op. 25, so he created Feux Follets.
@@wagnergalore5866there's another etude by Chopin and another etude by Liszt that is similar. Chopin op 10 no 9 and Liszt transcendental etude 10( Allegro agitato molto). Both are F minor, have the given tempo: Allegro agitato molto, and the left hand is similar in having to sweep across the keys quickly and smoothly. I'm not sure if Liszt also used op 10 no 9 as reference
@@lczq6737 It is amazing that you can play such complex stuff, I do not have such ability as a player, but I am a talented listener :) I will compare the etudes you mentioned, it would not be surprising since it's known that Liszt was influenced in composition by his genius friend. Who is more difficult to play for you, I wonder?
Listen to lots of Kissin, it's true he is not THE best at expressing his emotions but he is a helluva lot better than most of the people on youtube. Every concert pianist needs a degree of virtuosity: Horowitz is clearly a great pianist but his technique lets him down slightly and there comes a point when you can't correct technique. You can ALWAYS develop emotion. I think kissin is underrated.
From what I've heard him play ( a few of these studies) I think Kissen is up there with Bolet as one of the great Liszt players. I think he perhaps has an even better tone than Bolet.
I wholeheartedly disagree; if anything, Kissin is the rare artist who has the ability to convey feeling throughout a piece with unbelievable technique, in my humble opinion, this performance included.
partly true, he does sometimes go too fast, but i doubt you could play anywhere near as well as this could you? he has incredible accuracy in his playing, and is technically perfect!
Acum scriu pe N.V. - nu mai trebuie sa-i vezi nimic - fetzisoara sa+degetutzele = de ce-mi place mie oare muzica mai mult decât certurile......................................CA SA NU SUPAR PE NIMENI .................
not Kissin's best.. it's still world class playing, but I expect perfection from Kissin, and his musical taste in this performance was that of Lang Lang which is as engaging as a 6 month old read poetry
solidestcorn You're more likely to die in a plane crash than get a truthful answer from someone with the necessary credits to answer. Only 0.1℅ of pianists in existence can play this correctly.
the speed of this is just silly. You get no entertainment out of the dynamics or music of the piece because its too fast to take in and actually enjoy. Music isnt about being in awe of the speed of things.....so stupid
You have no clue. Kissin's is about mud and rocks. Cziffra's Mazzepa is not about speed but musicianship and in one part included a snippet of the orchestral version as well - which you probably don't know anyway. Don't comment about anything unless you have the knowledge and background to do so! This goes beyond taste.
Isn't Chasse Neige an etude? Though he did good... though he exaggerated some of the notes... I would rather prefer ghost fire in a more "behind the mist" way...
I agree that this does not capture the real atmosphere of the piece, and yes I think Cziffra does that much better. Not doubting Kissin's great technique of course, just the atmosphere.
Lang Lang used to play with emotions, but I have no idea what's wrong with him now. Everybody thinks he's now a "pathetic joker" or something like that.
technically, i prefer Marc-Andre Hamelin.. Kissin is good but for this etude, I prefer Berezovsky's version (judged by ears only). I have listened to many2 different versions of this etude and none, to me, has beaten Berezovsky's version.
this does remind me of a "ghost fire" or will o the wisp, its crisp and light o.o ....Cziffras Mazeppa was technically Amazing... Yet musically satisfying? i think not. SPEED IS NOT EVERYTHING.... I do believe that this performance isnt the best of Feux Follet But seriously you have no right to say he doesnt understand this piece
Feux Follets is my favorite transcendental etude; Evgeny kissin is my favorite performer. This video is therefore also my favorite.
the 10th etude is the best thing i have ever heard in my life
I love number 8, Wild Jagd. And I love number 6 Feux Follets too.
Fred H. Music same for me, but I found a better version he did on here.
@@alvexok5523No. 6 is vision
@@alvexok5523 I love the whole set.
*Just when I start thinking I’m talented*
I'm not sure even if I could play this in a duet with some friends
What kind of person think they are talent?
@@segmentsAndCurves yeah I’m not talent I’m talented >:(
Kissin plays this as good as humanly possible. It couldn't be played better. Kissin is a true musical genius in every sense of the word.
Yes, I know. The thing is that this piece isn't excruciatingly difficult to learn if I play the notes at like 1/5th the speed that it should be. The much MUCH bigger challenge is getting it sped up, playing all those double sixty-fourth notes at the speed Kissen is doing it is incredibly difficult. I just can't do it any faster than like 1/5th the speed he does it. If I even try it at a moderately faster pace, which is still much slower than Kissen's playing it, I start stumbling big time hitting many wrong notes. Geez Kissen you piano genius, how do you do it!!?
Listen to Trifonov... it's so much deeper than Kissin... completely different, and I prefer it
Arthur Friedman played this damn near as good as Liszt I've read
@@tomasjosefpiano8902 Cziffra is my personal favorite for this piece. He plays it much slower, but I love the feel of it.
2022 and Yunchang Lim happened BTW
C'est vraiment incroyable comment Evgeny Kissin arrive à jouer cette oeuvre terriblement difficile avec une telle simplicité, sans sembler se fatiguer les doigts, et sans la moindre fausse note... Du génie avec une musicalité parfaite.
Well this piece is in my to-do Liszt
ITCrash Securiy I hate you so much right now.
Well that Liszt never gonna be over lol
^
not funny
Good luck
This deserves millions of views..
Wonderful, inspiring work. I've always admired Kissin's musicianship and his painstaking craftsmanship. It's a joy just to look at such independent fingers play so many double notes!
1:21 left hand looks like a fish jumping on the air
Look at the flick of the wrist XD
16 note spaces
@@randmgenericname5077 yep
No one’s clarity comes even close to Kissin’s. He’s almost not human anymore.
this is trancendental
this comment us underrated!
hmm, yes. the floor here is made of floor
No shit sherlock
the best rendetion without the slightest bit of doubt (especially his recording)
I was there. It was amazing. He gave 5 encores if I remember correctly
Are you brazilian?
so lucky :)
@@qalaphyll ok
@@ValzainLumivix HOW THE FUCK DID YOU FINS THIS COMMENT ITS SEVEN FUCKING MONTHS OLD
*find lmao
The dynamics are insane! How does he play like that so pjano?!?!
Is pjano Spanish for piano?
Please say it is
This is unbelievable. I enjoyed the clarity and delicateness of the performance.
Simplemente impresionante.....tocar este estudio con ese nivel de maestría....el ser humano es capaz de cualquier cosa...no importa lo difícil.....
So difficult you can barely find a video on RUclips with an actual person performing it. And people say La Campanella is harder...
But there *are* harder pieces
@@erezsolomon3838 Not really. Not perfomable pieces.
@@m0ment219 mereaux etudes: lol
@@m0ment219 All of liszts pieces beginning with "Reminscences":
@@aeroslothy I haven't heard of them, could you enlighten me with an example.
it doesn't get any better than this.
I don't get why people always say that when played fast these etudes loose some poetry. Kissin here puts all the right accents, emotions needed PLUS it really feels like fast flying feux follets, exciting, a technical achievement. Liszt was absolutely playing it at that speed even if Allegretto is marked.
that right hand is just perfect !
This is a Halloween piece!!! Imma gonna play this for spookiness!
Go for it! It's really easy
@@EGMusic12 it's the same level as turkish march
0:54 the rhythmically best mistake ever
No wonder his hair is a mess
I love this comment lmao
that didn't make any sense...
danklad, why do I see you everywhere putting your negative attitude all over music videos
@@firelight9295 Remember: "negativity is entertaining"
Warning: pun intended.
Even if is positive or not.
His hair makes his charm
This is example of highest art;musicality, technic,spirit-all together, bravo!AlsoRichter played this etude perfect!
And cziffra and pogorelich espexially!
@@dwacheopus Pogorelich hasn't sound,like Richter and Kissin,the same thing Szhiffra,sound is more heavy,it's not lights,...
good speed, good technique, good sound ¬¬ kissin is so damn good
You wrote this comment 12 years ago...
Now it's 13 Years
@@yakkogaming016 Now its 15 years.
@@belialah now its 16 years
自分がまだ産まれてないときのコメント...すごいなんかを感じる
自分が2歳とかの写真もかなり古いけどそれよりもっと前で過ごしてたんだもんな
なんかすごい(語彙力皆無)
Sooooo easy played it perfectly the first time my eyes closed
If you're trying to troll go to reddit
AMAZING!!!!
Adele Marcus has stated that when the great Josef Lhevinne played Feux Follets, the listener had the impression of a bee buzzing around his head, so light and ethereal was Lhevinne's performance.
I'm happy to read your reply, kuglagerfeld, thanks. that's exactly what I think, when reading some of the comments. people are so trained to judge everything into good and bad and to experience the world through the limiting grid of their opinions. this is really sad. but there are many others who appreciate and are respectful. may you have good concerts with really openhearted and openminded people, who will (naturally) enjoy your music.
This is what happens when classical musicians take speed
This how the song is supposed to be played. This is extremely hard to play
This...was a joke
Vetiscon12 ㅎ
Vetiscon12 Speed is a Drug
Now play this at 1.5x or 2x
I agree, it's not about who's the best - who could ever judge that? - it's rather about really listening to this wonderful music and interpretation, far beyond concepts and criticism. if you do that, then you'll find beauty even in the piano-playing of a beginner, not to mention the masters. the use of harsh words though, is also contaminating, poisoning the comments. music is about the beauty of the heart and mind, isn't it?
I agree with you chlaebrig. I needed to say it this way , because where ever you go to listen, concert, youtube , etc. you always hear people criticizing like they are all Gods. I am a pianist myself and I have good international results. I know how hard it is to prepare for the competition, or for recital. This profession is among the hardest professions in the world and people usually have comments like you see here. I am totally against those opinions and way of listening to music.
@chlaebrig you're right, we shouldn't judge, but music is especially about music.. with heart and mind could be love or other feelings. Music is something more
If Kissen played this with even more lightness, his hair would have flown off his head.
I’m learning this piece now, and it’s a monster. I have the beginning part down and up to speed but that’s the easier part of the piece lol
I heard that this piece is being ignored by veterans.
miguelangelo lazaro Its because its too hard, they actually refuse to play this 😂😂
The rondo fantastique is harder it stretches up to 8-9 minutes length half the time of this piece and its littered with difficult passages.
Avner Chaim not really... the technical demands of the hardest passage of this etude are more than the hardest passage of the rondo... the rondo’s just 3x as long
@@jackcurley1591 , which section of Fuex Follets do find the most difficult to learn. I'm just curious on which part other people find the hardest.
@@alvexok5523 From my own experience, the double notes at 0.34 - 1.06 are the hardest to play in full tempo. When you can play them, the rest of the piece feels easier.
liszt revival
I do think there is such a thing as too fast, where the music gets lost and you just have a jumble of notes.
Evgeny is cool
O The Mentor esteve aqui!
This sounds like a guy sing a beautiful highC with an unbelivably super gentle voice.
Very incisive, nicely articulated... His game fits well with the piece.
On Transcendental Etude Entertainment and dynamics = Music
I don't disagree with you, but we need to consider that they are mostly 32th notes. Four 32th notes in the time of an 8th note... I don't know whether this is reasonable.
Genius of Genius
who is here by Marioverehrer
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pivos111 yes
Liszt was impressed by the opening double-note thrill in thirds followed by a chromatic scale in thirds of Chopin's Etude in G# minor, op. 25, so he created Feux Follets.
Really? That's interesting. Where did you find this information?
@@lczq6737 I can't recall but I followed it and it seems to be true. You can listen and compare yourself, it is a very good theory.
@@wagnergalore5866 yes I played both pieces before. It's similar.
@@wagnergalore5866there's another etude by Chopin and another etude by Liszt that is similar. Chopin op 10 no 9 and Liszt transcendental etude 10( Allegro agitato molto). Both are F minor, have the given tempo: Allegro agitato molto, and the left hand is similar in having to sweep across the keys quickly and smoothly. I'm not sure if Liszt also used op 10 no 9 as reference
@@lczq6737 It is amazing that you can play such complex stuff, I do not have such ability as a player, but I am a talented listener :) I will compare the etudes you mentioned, it would not be surprising since it's known that Liszt was influenced in composition by his genius friend. Who is more difficult to play for you, I wonder?
Listen to lots of Kissin, it's true he is not THE best at expressing his emotions but he is a helluva lot better than most of the people on youtube. Every concert pianist needs a degree of virtuosity: Horowitz is clearly a great pianist but his technique lets him down slightly and there comes a point when you can't correct technique. You can ALWAYS develop emotion. I think kissin is underrated.
and his chopin etudes are great too!
From what I've heard him play ( a few of these studies) I think Kissen is up there with Bolet as one of the great Liszt players. I think he perhaps has an even better tone than Bolet.
@torontochopin: Great point of view. I wonder if it's me, but in the main theme, I am not hearing the fifths and sixths. Anybody, please?
cute piece
16 years ago :)
Tu nous avais caché ça Matthieu !
Very swift and dramatic interpretation! It goes beyond the virtuoso style. Kissin is the best in my opinion.
Franz had a strange brain
A strange hand*
This just seems impossible. Those are DOUBLE NOTES! At this tempo!
His hair are like that for a reason.
Unless I'm mistaken, the younger Bezerovsky also follows these indications.
❤❤❤❤!!!!
2019?
I wholeheartedly disagree; if anything, Kissin is the rare artist who has the ability to convey feeling throughout a piece with unbelievable technique, in my humble opinion, this performance included.
Mostruoso!!!
Friedheim and yes there is a low quality recording here on youtube.
partly true, he does sometimes go too fast, but i doubt you could play anywhere near as well as this could you? he has incredible accuracy in his playing, and is technically perfect!
Can't believe I just found a comment from 11 years ago...
15 years now lol
Yunchan lim surpass that version, in my opinion
Kissin has the cleanest and most lyrical Liszt imo
Jack Curley even tho lyrical liszt is basically mostly a joke
@@lawrencewei3583 You are an imbecile.
here here :D
Всё невнятно и бессмысленно!!!! Нервный какой-то пианист....Пропускает ноты...рояль НЕ ЗВУЧИТ!!!
lovely! try Ashkenazy also for even more clarity
This piece is so fast i hear it slower than the player.
While impressive, Cziffra's just has so much more flow and delicacy.
Yes Cziffra nails it right it is really 'feux follets' in his version (will of the wisps)
Acum scriu pe N.V. - nu mai trebuie sa-i vezi nimic - fetzisoara sa+degetutzele = de ce-mi place mie oare muzica mai mult
decât certurile......................................CA SA NU SUPAR PE NIMENI .................
everybody pls listen ashkenazy! :)
Energetic, but it has that too.
not Kissin's best.. it's still world class playing, but I expect perfection from Kissin, and his musical taste in this performance was that of Lang Lang which is as engaging as a 6 month old read poetry
did he play it perfectly?
solidestcorn You're more likely to die in a plane crash than get a truthful answer from someone with the necessary credits to answer.
Only 0.1℅ of pianists in existence can play this correctly.
solidestcorn not even .1 it is somewhere like .000001%
Wow even better than Arrau’s😮
the speed of this is just silly. You get no entertainment out of the dynamics or music of the piece because its too fast to take in and actually enjoy.
Music isnt about being in awe of the speed of things.....so stupid
this is live...
@Fatcake12592 thus, that is what liszt so famously set out to do, and achieved
You have no clue. Kissin's is about mud and rocks. Cziffra's Mazzepa is not about speed but musicianship and in one part included a snippet of the orchestral version as well - which you probably don't know anyway. Don't comment about anything unless you have the knowledge and background to do so! This goes beyond taste.
18 people are deaf
Isn't Chasse Neige an etude?
Though he did good... though he exaggerated some of the notes...
I would rather prefer ghost fire in a more "behind the mist" way...
Because Liszt's favorite pupil played this song entirely different. Does this song seriously remind you of swamp fires as Liszt intended?
This is more like a finger exercise than a piece
TickleMyPelvis look up the purpose of an "etude"
he’s going way too fast
It's also a beautiful evocation of a Will-o-the-wisp.
Well, it is obviously an etude
@@AndreiAnghelLiszt wtf is a will-o-the-wisp
c le gas de Fiston
well said :D
I agree that this does not capture the real atmosphere of the piece, and yes I think Cziffra does that much better. Not doubting Kissin's great technique of course, just the atmosphere.
listen to Minoru Nojima
Lang Lang used to play with emotions, but I have no idea what's wrong with him now. Everybody thinks he's now a "pathetic joker" or something like that.
@Bucketheadhead haha! amazing comment
technically, i prefer Marc-Andre Hamelin.. Kissin is good but for this etude, I prefer Berezovsky's version (judged by ears only). I have listened to many2 different versions of this etude and none, to me, has beaten Berezovsky's version.
Arima is that you
This is proof that wuxia is real
Wow. Feux Follets looks even more difficult to play than Wild Jagd.
cuz it is
this does remind me of a "ghost fire" or will o the wisp, its crisp and light o.o ....Cziffras Mazeppa was technically Amazing... Yet musically satisfying? i think not. SPEED IS NOT EVERYTHING.... I do believe that this performance isnt the best of Feux Follet But seriously you have no right to say he doesnt understand this piece
This is Etude Op. 10 No.2 on steroids.
More like a combo of Op. 25 No. 6/8
PCP is a hell of a drug
That's a hell of a haircut.
I don't comprehend.