$20 for a game is my limit $100 is just not even an option. Scopley really needs to bring their pricing down for the average gamer if they want more to spend for their game. o7 😎👍
While you are not wrong, both Rev and DJz have said that Scopely isn't entirely interested in this because they make more off of the $100 packs than the smaller ones.
Scopely doesn’t really care about f2p players, or low spend players. For that matter, it doesn’t care much about whales either. One of the level 70s in one of the largest alliances gave Scopely a list of what changes they would like to see. Scopely was noncommittal.
I don't spend $100 on a single entertainment event, concert, sporting event, or meal, and won't on a game, either. I will do 10s and 20s a handful of times a year, but that's it, especially on a game that is so poorly coded.
Hi Rev, I agree that those are the only decks that have value, other than decks that add build and research slots and a repairman. Yesterday I bought the cheaper version of the Wave Pass. Regarding ship skins, weapons and abilities, they wouldn't have to sell them directly, but they could rent them for $3 or $5 per month. Plus other conditions. You could make decent money on skins, especially if individual skins were for $3 or $5 and paid monthly. And if you don't pay, the skinnies will be locked again. Great video, good health and long life.
My problem is that Brazil is a poor country and our currency is very undervalued. 100usd is 500brl. The minimum wage here is 2.9 packs and in the us is 12 soooo we cannot compete. Other games have special values for you here. It's best to get more sells of less value than no sells at all scopely
I’ve spent more money than I’m willing to admit on this game. That being said, I play at my own pace now and just enjoy the game. Any progress you buy will be negated by a new Prime down the line.
You should remind people not to buy these packs until they have bought a few other permanent items. For example, if it's your absolute first time spending more than $20, there is no way you should get these. Get an extra dock. Get the second extra dock. Get a couple extra builders/researchers, or even extra ship repair, although these aren't as helpful as a dock. Get the extra FC slot if you're nearing having multiple commanders (I imagine many f2p will have at least 3-4 FCs in the next couple months if they've been prioritizing). Even some efficiency primes, like charged nanos or ship parts are better. These packs definitely have higher than average value, but the best value is the permanent value. The dock you will have for the rest of the game, or extra researcher to get more done with an exo while not wasting alliance helps, or an efficiency that in the long run will save way more than 1 pack of mats.
As I am trying to push for ops 46, the elite monthly pack really does help with getting those uncommon and rares to be able to get the buildings upgraded, but even more important, with all the help events, me being in a small alliance, those constant flow of speed-ups does help to speed up my research and buildings quickly during those events so that I'm able to help a good majority of my members online get their BP event done.
the higher your ops level is, the more valueable the elite reward packs become (because 5 and 6 star materials are obnoxiously expensive in general with the lack of efficiency research options). but i would say below level 45-50, elite reward packs are a waste of money - because scopely finally woke up to boost the 3 and 4 star economy well enough so that you're not in desperate need of those 100 dollar packs
Talking about time in game. I had two players in my alliance quite this week because time in game became too much with all the different things they added over the last few months. Should we just except Scopely to pile it higher and deeper each month as the SOP.
This game is not a rush, it's a marathon and anyone who can't understand that is going to find themselves burnt out pretty quickly. Just because the contents there, doesn't mean you have to do it all at once.
@@Digitaldreamer7 these were players in the 55+ range who have played for years. They know the grind. It just kept on taking more and more time. Cost benefit ratio was no longer worth it for them. People have lives outside of the game. We play to relax, not go to a part time job.
Good info as always ! I don't generally buy packs it's usually some kind of pack that gives me something I can't get normally or something that helps to progress my game in some way that isn't normal to accumulate
No pack is worth £100. Every other game similar to stfc has a wide range of prices. I still don't get why scopely continues to ignore potential buyers by pricing out a large part of the player base.
Step 1: Look at what is in pack. Step 2: Decide if you want what is in pack. Step 3: Look at price of pack. Step 4: Decide if price is something you want to pay. Step 5. Buy or not depending on Step 4.
Greets, Rev; thanks for this video. I have been playing for a few years now, and I have decided the $20 elite battle passes have the best value in the game. I would be interested see how the total payout of an elite battle pass compares with a Monthly Ultra or the Treasury. I am level 45, so UC ship parts are my pain point. As such, this month's treasury has my attention, but at 3040 broken desealing rods I need to wait.
UK player and would be more inclined to buy several £50 packs over time, than £100 packs. Obviously Scopley gets the monies they need charging what they do. As usual, excellent video 🙂
Hey Rev. Another great video. I'm also Ops 49, however I have much less in my pack offers - 30% less in my Treasury pack, and 50% less in the Ultra Building pack! Any idea why? This is on an EU server as well, so £99.99 is actually around $140, so an even worse exchange!
Some servers have different packs. It is a thing that Scopley has done for years. They are the same costs for the same packs but they have different amounts of resources and materials in them. Rev actually lost his NDA and stuff like 2 years ago over this.
I’m the same it’s why I’ve stopped spending, I realised it when they started messing with the officer recruit events. People on discord were saying it’s $400 of mats to unlock an officer which is already ridiculous but I work it out that for me it’s £800! It’s total 💩
I never realised, thank you. I do hope when they match servers, or merge them, that they take this into account! But...Scopely... If Rev lost out for what is a clear case of them being in the wrong, shame on them.
I’ve always wondered why they never sold a $50 Treasury Pack, there has been times I would have bought a half pack to go with the half that I gridded out.
I’ve got a question, I live in Norway, but I play on American servers. you guys pay 99,99 for a pack and i play around 130. I know what you’re going to say, that it’s the conversion rate but it isn’t because the conversion rate for Norwegian kroner to dollars is about 10 to one so that would make it 1000 kroner is 100 bucks. I’m paying about a third more for that packet what’s going on?
I think the reason Scopely won't do cheap cosmetics is kind of for the reasons you reference, its all about normalizing the $99 price point. If there were an abundance of cheaper things in the game, you would always compare to those cheaper things for value, or maybe when you thought you might spend you'd buy something cheaper.
I would only get the basic pack on that but hate that they make it 50 for that and not 20 like the others. And I'd only keep purchasing it until I had the research items that require the new resource done. After that, I don't see much of a reason to keep doing it. As it stands during the first TC pass I was able to completely finish all of the cost reduction research in that tree and get a chunk of the other part of that tree filled out as well.
My opinion is don't buy it, the rewards aren't that great. Also if people keep buying these battle passes then Scopely will keep adding more of them. So you're essentially paying to make the game worse in the long term.
Currently at ops54, never found it interesting to spend money on this game specifically. You only need to wait a little longer to unlock most of what you want/need when not spending money. Basically what you buy is speedups in all kinds of shapes and sizes, just to be somewhere else in the cycle of this game, still going through an equalivent motion. Only thing I ever seriously thought about buying was officer Leslie for 5 bucks. But when I finally got him f2p, I never used him. 😅
The extra treasury is missing rare 4 star survey parts - and the generell rare part amounts is pretty tiny... I need alot more to Upgrade a single part. I rather save up the free way > bajor rep store is just too amazing
If you`re going to spend $100, try to find a pack that gives you a permanent boost that you wouldn`t be able to get by just playing through the game. My next purchase will be a reduction of 200% to the cost of materials(gas,ore,crystal) in research for G3 to G5 upgrades. You will safe so much more with this than buying packs for materials.
Wanting to buy. Been ops 30+ for about 6 months, still dont have it. I got a hole in my pocket ready for it. I dont even care the cost, i want an extra spot to play.@@RevDeuce
For me personally I think buying the packs isn't worth it. The further you get in the game the harder it becomes to progress and less enjoyable the game becomes. Why would you want to get to that point faster? I'm at Ops 50 now, I just play along, enjoy the game at my own pace and earn my upgrades rather than just buying them.
And the corporate-guided encourage-addiction logic used is why I stay F2P. If the game dies because more people wake up to their problem and stop spending, so be it. We'd all be better off.
Server 53 the Ultra Station Pack is 50% less materials than the pack Rev shows ... so take pack values with a grain of salt when they are shown by Rev, DJ, etc. Server age etc.comes into play.
The pricing of their packs has always been something I could never understand. $100 for a pack, I'm guessing the content amounts varies depending on a players level. At lower levels, it is a total rip off. A few hundred in uncommon materials and a bunch of other things, most of which you don't want or need at the time. Let's say I am trying to upgrade a ship and it's asking for over 2000 in uncommon material and this $100 pack only gives me barely over 500 in the material I need and a bunch of speed up for research and repairs, relocation tokens latinum, and resources. For a $100 pack stating for materials, just sell me the materials and in amounts that I paid for, don't pad it with a bunch of crap I never ask for. For $100 give me just materials, I wanna see uncommons in the mid range 5 digit amount (IE 50-80K) with rares in the 30-60K range and nothing else, especially if they are going to charge me at a price that is more then a AAA mainstream game. A lot of these $100 pack, looks like they are only worth $30 at most.
@@HugoBolzer i had that for a bit as well and i had several Trillions of Par, going to ops 53 cleaned me out though so i'm grabbing Par where ever i can find it atm
I have one complaint on what you said. You called spend (buy on a pack) in the game "invest". I think that turn is wrong and misleading. You invest when you get monetary return for it. With buy in the game you spend. The same as you spend in restaurant, store.... I didnt here yet that someone wanted to sell me food with: "Do you want to invest in this carrot?". I know why they make you do it and I found it problematic to say at list. From Wikipedia: Investment is traditionally defined as the "commitment of resources to achieve later benefits". If an investment involves money, then it can be defined as a "commitment of money to receive more money later".
I can't believe this game can get away with charging people the same price for packs/items that don't give you the same items in it (changing what's inside in terms of value) based on your level. It should be all the exact same no matter what level a person is, because its the same $$$ . If a level 19 gets items that they can't access till level 40, then fine. Let them have it in their inventory, ready for level 40 use. But $ at lv 19 and $ at level 40, should equal the exact same.
I’m an occasional spender at ops 56, I’d spend more but honestly. I don’t see the value in the 100 dollar packs and they purposefully make the cheaper packs less of a deal. So I just don’t spend, I’d say like 90% of 100 dollar packs aren’t worth it. If they were 50 bucks then yea I’d spend more. But Scopley is being too greedy, they need to have cheaper options.
Outside of Battlepasses, the first dollars spent should be on Prime Ship Engineering, Prime Ship Parts and 3-5* Research Efficiency. No better value in the entire game
maybe not 6 star packs. but rev or just his server gets substantially more value in their packs. Im the same ops as rev and I get less than half the rewards he does in every pack
it probably depends on the time it takes to collect it. But hearts me see this :D i spend like 1k euro but i just start and this video save me spend more here. If i know this bifore i will just buy to lvl up and than start spending but i siting and waiting for others. it soo dumb packs mechanic and yea this game has expensive pack for random people. In other game people spend soo much more bicous there are 1,5,10, and go up to 100e pack and no diference what lvl its the buyer. And even random people say its just 1 or5 whatever and then after monts he looks and see he spend 100 :D
Hello nice to meet you, I watch & subscribe to your RUclips channel. I wanted to bother you with some advice. I recently started playing STSC after being gone for 2 yrs. My station is Lv 20. I recently had surgery and will be laid up for 6 months and now have an enormous amount of time to play now. But everyone in my galaxy is so powerful & far more experienced , that I’m considering deleting my account and starting a new one in a younger galaxy. But I thought maybe I’d get some advice from a pro on weather that’s a wise decision ? Thank you for your input and sorry to bother you
Props for mentioning that if you do not redeem all of the Elite Monthly tokens on time, you will not be able to redeem in the coming years. I found that one out the hard way. Ugh.
lol there has never been a $20 pack in our neck of the woods .. Elite packs are $200 . mid packs are $100 , the battle pass has gone from $34 to $40 in 3 months .. only affordable if your rich , retired and rich etc etc
None of the packs in this game have any real value, if anything they have a negative value. As you progress in this game the grind and cost of everything increases, so you'd either have to continue spending larger sums of money to mitigate that or endure even more grind and increasing costs. Scopely's business model is to create problems and bottlenecks in the game so they can sell you the solution, if people continue to buy those solutions they will continue to create more problems and bottlenecks. I realise that without people buying packs and stuff the game wouldn't exist, but if they at least made Scopely work a bit harder to earn their money then the game would likely be in a much better state than it currently is.
The answer is no, they are not worth it. Pay the price of a new triple A PlayStation 5 / X box game for a few virtual pixels for a “free to play” game.
HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO OOOO!!!! There ain't nothing in this game that is worth the prices they charge for EVERYTHING & ANYTHING all these years later from its start and the game is still just as glitchy and faulty as day one there are a lot of open sores in this game Scopely just puts Band-Aids on them and calls it a rainbow this was my first so-called free to play mobile game with purchases it was not a good thing at all so many problems they never fix but they keep the whales happy it's sheer disrespect of the Star Trek name and franchise I'm at the end of my rope here
Considering 100$ to be an option in a shitty mobile game is ridiculous to me. That are 5 triple AA games in a deep sale. Or 5 Indie games eithout a sale. Each and every one better than this skinner box of a game. I play this while bored at work or taking a shit, that is not worth any amount of money.
$20 for a game is my limit $100 is just not even an option. Scopley really needs to bring their pricing down for the average gamer if they want more to spend for their game. o7 😎👍
While you are not wrong, both Rev and DJz have said that Scopely isn't entirely interested in this because they make more off of the $100 packs than the smaller ones.
Scopely doesn’t really care about f2p players, or low spend players. For that matter, it doesn’t care much about whales either. One of the level 70s in one of the largest alliances gave Scopely a list of what changes they would like to see. Scopely was noncommittal.
I will never spend $100 on a single pack.
I don't spend $100 on a single entertainment event, concert, sporting event, or meal, and won't on a game, either. I will do 10s and 20s a handful of times a year, but that's it, especially on a game that is so poorly coded.
Hi Rev, I agree that those are the only decks that have value, other than decks that add build and research slots and a repairman.
Yesterday I bought the cheaper version of the Wave Pass.
Regarding ship skins, weapons and abilities, they wouldn't have to sell them directly, but they could rent them for $3 or $5 per month. Plus other conditions. You could make decent money on skins, especially if individual skins were for $3 or $5 and paid monthly. And if you don't pay, the skinnies will be locked again.
Great video, good health and long life.
Wow, that is a good idea, and easily implemented as an exo(limited time research node.)
@@H..M.. Skin options are practically unlimited, they can be added with or without different abilities.
My problem is that Brazil is a poor country and our currency is very undervalued. 100usd is 500brl. The minimum wage here is 2.9 packs and in the us is 12 soooo we cannot compete. Other games have special values for you here. It's best to get more sells of less value than no sells at all scopely
I’ve spent more money than I’m willing to admit on this game. That being said, I play at my own pace now and just enjoy the game. Any progress you buy will be negated by a new Prime down the line.
If I had the money I’d either get extra dock or another research and build spot
You should remind people not to buy these packs until they have bought a few other permanent items. For example, if it's your absolute first time spending more than $20, there is no way you should get these. Get an extra dock. Get the second extra dock. Get a couple extra builders/researchers, or even extra ship repair, although these aren't as helpful as a dock. Get the extra FC slot if you're nearing having multiple commanders (I imagine many f2p will have at least 3-4 FCs in the next couple months if they've been prioritizing). Even some efficiency primes, like charged nanos or ship parts are better. These packs definitely have higher than average value, but the best value is the permanent value. The dock you will have for the rest of the game, or extra researcher to get more done with an exo while not wasting alliance helps, or an efficiency that in the long run will save way more than 1 pack of mats.
As I am trying to push for ops 46, the elite monthly pack really does help with getting those uncommon and rares to be able to get the buildings upgraded, but even more important, with all the help events, me being in a small alliance, those constant flow of speed-ups does help to speed up my research and buildings quickly during those events so that I'm able to help a good majority of my members online get their BP event done.
focus on 2 factions one for recruiting officers faction and one too get your ship
the higher your ops level is, the more valueable the elite reward packs become (because 5 and 6 star materials are obnoxiously expensive in general with the lack of efficiency research options). but i would say below level 45-50, elite reward packs are a waste of money - because scopely finally woke up to boost the 3 and 4 star economy well enough so that you're not in desperate need of those 100 dollar packs
Talking about time in game. I had two players in my alliance quite this week because time in game became too much with all the different things they added over the last few months. Should we just except Scopely to pile it higher and deeper each month as the SOP.
This game is not a rush, it's a marathon and anyone who can't understand that is going to find themselves burnt out pretty quickly. Just because the contents there, doesn't mean you have to do it all at once.
@@Digitaldreamer7 these were players in the 55+ range who have played for years. They know the grind. It just kept on taking more and more time. Cost benefit ratio was no longer worth it for them. People have lives outside of the game. We play to relax, not go to a part time job.
Good info as always ! I don't generally buy packs it's usually some kind of pack that gives me something I can't get normally or something that helps to progress my game in some way that isn't normal to accumulate
No pack is worth £100. Every other game similar to stfc has a wide range of prices. I still don't get why scopely continues to ignore potential buyers by pricing out a large part of the player base.
Step 1: Look at what is in pack. Step 2: Decide if you want what is in pack. Step 3: Look at price of pack. Step 4: Decide if price is something you want to pay. Step 5. Buy or not depending on Step 4.
I am playing Incursion with server 97 right now. I am BonJohndy from server 95.
Greets, Rev; thanks for this video. I have been playing for a few years now, and I have decided the $20 elite battle passes have the best value in the game. I would be interested see how the total payout of an elite battle pass compares with a Monthly Ultra or the Treasury. I am level 45, so UC ship parts are my pain point. As such, this month's treasury has my attention, but at 3040 broken desealing rods I need to wait.
UK player and would be more inclined to buy several £50 packs over time, than £100 packs. Obviously Scopley gets the monies they need charging what they do. As usual, excellent video 🙂
Hey Rev. Another great video.
I'm also Ops 49, however I have much less in my pack offers - 30% less in my Treasury pack, and 50% less in the Ultra Building pack! Any idea why? This is on an EU server as well, so £99.99 is actually around $140, so an even worse exchange!
Some servers have different packs. It is a thing that Scopley has done for years. They are the same costs for the same packs but they have different amounts of resources and materials in them. Rev actually lost his NDA and stuff like 2 years ago over this.
I’m the same it’s why I’ve stopped spending, I realised it when they started messing with the officer recruit events. People on discord were saying it’s $400 of mats to unlock an officer which is already ridiculous but I work it out that for me it’s £800! It’s total 💩
@@brianhyman4397 and that is providing that you can actually spend what are in the packs, lol.
I never realised, thank you. I do hope when they match servers, or merge them, that they take this into account! But...Scopely...
If Rev lost out for what is a clear case of them being in the wrong, shame on them.
I’ve always wondered why they never sold a $50 Treasury Pack, there has been times I would have bought a half pack to go with the half that I gridded out.
If you have never made any purchases, you would get a lower cost Treasury and some other packs as enticements to start spending.
Haha did any of you get the interceptors pack on Sunday that got pulled for ops 54 up had a load of g6 stuff in it
I really enjoyed this one, going ops 40 in a while with that jump, the monthly elite pack would greatly help with the jump to 42.
I’ve got a question, I live in Norway, but I play on American servers. you guys pay 99,99 for a pack and i play around 130. I know what you’re going to say, that it’s the conversion rate but it isn’t because the conversion rate for Norwegian kroner to dollars is about 10 to one so that would make it 1000 kroner is 100 bucks. I’m paying about a third more for that packet what’s going on?
I was able to get his Treasury with broken rods. That helped me to move to Ops 53 and get my Corvus to T2, so yes, for me was worth it
WOOO Cowboy Diplomacy on Server 97 represent! Also agree with everything said in this video.
Full disclosure Rev, do you get the elite monthly for free from $cppely every or most months?
Rev they should add some rare and uncommon survey parts on the treasury.those are ships too that needed some million only thousands parts
Why would I give Doply more money they haven't fixed the lag in three years 😅😅😅😅
In the past few months, my alt account (ops 29] 100% ftp doesnt get treasury. Is that change related to spend or ops?
I think the reason Scopely won't do cheap cosmetics is kind of for the reasons you reference, its all about normalizing the $99 price point. If there were an abundance of cheaper things in the game, you would always compare to those cheaper things for value, or maybe when you thought you might spend you'd buy something cheaper.
I go back and forth on the TC pass...I hate 'yet another battle pass' and supporting that, but I do like the rewards. Curious everyone's opinions?
Since I don't really care about the new Territory research tree, I do not care about that pass.
I would only get the basic pack on that but hate that they make it 50 for that and not 20 like the others. And I'd only keep purchasing it until I had the research items that require the new resource done. After that, I don't see much of a reason to keep doing it. As it stands during the first TC pass I was able to completely finish all of the cost reduction research in that tree and get a chunk of the other part of that tree filled out as well.
The new research is not good except for the isolityc damage research. You get enough through the free track for that anyway
My opinion is don't buy it, the rewards aren't that great. Also if people keep buying these battle passes then Scopely will keep adding more of them. So you're essentially paying to make the game worse in the long term.
Currently at ops54, never found it interesting to spend money on this game specifically. You only need to wait a little longer to unlock most of what you want/need when not spending money. Basically what you buy is speedups in all kinds of shapes and sizes, just to be somewhere else in the cycle of this game, still going through an equalivent motion.
Only thing I ever seriously thought about buying was officer Leslie for 5 bucks. But when I finally got him f2p, I never used him. 😅
Quick question, is the syndicate pack for 99,99euro worth it?
Only when it's the special bonus one.
@@lindagoad2163 its the pack for 75,2K syndicate points. That one good ?
The extra treasury is missing rare 4 star survey parts - and the generell rare part amounts is pretty tiny... I need alot more to Upgrade a single part.
I rather save up the free way
> bajor rep store is just too amazing
If you`re going to spend $100, try to find a pack that gives you a permanent boost that you wouldn`t be able to get by just playing through the game. My next purchase will be a reduction of 200% to the cost of materials(gas,ore,crystal) in research for G3 to G5 upgrades. You will safe so much more with this than buying packs for materials.
Looking for the Drydock G pack. Where you at?
As in you want to purchase it, or are you asking my opinion on it? (good buy)
Wanting to buy. Been ops 30+ for about 6 months, still dont have it. I got a hole in my pocket ready for it. I dont even care the cost, i want an extra spot to play.@@RevDeuce
My spending ability is directly related on my ability to embezzle from my spouse.
For me personally I think buying the packs isn't worth it. The further you get in the game the harder it becomes to progress and less enjoyable the game becomes. Why would you want to get to that point faster?
I'm at Ops 50 now, I just play along, enjoy the game at my own pace and earn my upgrades rather than just buying them.
mostly battlepass, but have bought ships and stuff. not a heavy spender. normally the cheap battlepass each month
Didn't get the Officer Flash Pass overflow because of incursions... then the next day is domination... wtf scopeley!!!
And the corporate-guided encourage-addiction logic used is why I stay F2P.
If the game dies because more people wake up to their problem and stop spending, so be it. We'd all be better off.
Rev why are the packs on your server so much higher in materials and lat than mine ? Im also ops 49.
Server age also plays a roll in how much is in each packs. That said, they are the same for everyone else at your level on your server.
Server 53 the Ultra Station Pack is 50% less materials than the pack Rev shows ... so take pack values with a grain of salt when they are shown by Rev, DJ, etc. Server age etc.comes into play.
The pricing of their packs has always been something I could never understand. $100 for a pack, I'm guessing the content amounts varies depending on a players level. At lower levels, it is a total rip off. A few hundred in uncommon materials and a bunch of other things, most of which you don't want or need at the time. Let's say I am trying to upgrade a ship and it's asking for over 2000 in uncommon material and this $100 pack only gives me barely over 500 in the material I need and a bunch of speed up for research and repairs, relocation tokens latinum, and resources. For a $100 pack stating for materials, just sell me the materials and in amounts that I paid for, don't pad it with a bunch of crap I never ask for. For $100 give me just materials, I wanna see uncommons in the mid range 5 digit amount (IE 50-80K) with rares in the 30-60K range and nothing else, especially if they are going to charge me at a price that is more then a AAA mainstream game. A lot of these $100 pack, looks like they are only worth $30 at most.
i'm pretty desperate for Par atm as i'm pushing for ops 53 so i can build my Vorcha, *really* hoping the next treasury is Par based atm...
The monaveen solved the Parsteel, tritanium, Dilithium problem - i got soo much billions, no clue what to do with it
@@HugoBolzer i had that for a bit as well and i had several Trillions of Par, going to ops 53 cleaned me out though so i'm grabbing Par where ever i can find it atm
@@DarthPayne1980 good to know
i have time until i reach that point
but i can make sure to have a couple 100 trillion ready by then 👍
Thx Rev.
I have one complaint on what you said. You called spend (buy on a pack) in the game "invest". I think that turn is wrong and misleading. You invest when you get monetary return for it. With buy in the game you spend. The same as you spend in restaurant, store.... I didnt here yet that someone wanted to sell me food with: "Do you want to invest in this carrot?".
I know why they make you do it and I found it problematic to say at list.
From Wikipedia: Investment is traditionally defined as the "commitment of resources to achieve later benefits". If an investment involves money, then it can be defined as a "commitment of money to receive more money later".
I'm Ops 49 and your Ultra Station Pack and Elite Daily Reward Pack have twice as many rss as mine. Wtf Scopely??
Depends on what you want and need.
im at the same ops lvl as rev but only get half the ressources shown in the video WTF.
I can't believe this game can get away with charging people the same price for packs/items that don't give you the same items in it (changing what's inside in terms of value) based on your level. It should be all the exact same no matter what level a person is, because its the same $$$ . If a level 19 gets items that they can't access till level 40, then fine. Let them have it in their inventory, ready for level 40 use. But $ at lv 19 and $ at level 40, should equal the exact same.
I’m an occasional spender at ops 56, I’d spend more but honestly. I don’t see the value in the 100 dollar packs and they purposefully make the cheaper packs less of a deal. So I just don’t spend, I’d say like 90% of 100 dollar packs aren’t worth it. If they were 50 bucks then yea I’d spend more. But Scopley is being too greedy, they need to have cheaper options.
Outside of Battlepasses, the first dollars spent should be on Prime Ship Engineering, Prime Ship Parts and 3-5* Research Efficiency. No better value in the entire game
Technically you only have to be in game for 15 days. They release a bonus pack and you can do double pulls
So why does rev get 6 star packs as a ops 49 player?
seems like something else is going on
maybe not 6 star packs. but rev or just his server gets substantially more value in their packs. Im the same ops as rev and I get less than half the rewards he does in every pack
it probably depends on the time it takes to collect it. But hearts me see this :D i spend like 1k euro but i just start and this video save me spend more here. If i know this bifore i will just buy to lvl up and than start spending but i siting and waiting for others. it soo dumb packs mechanic and yea this game has expensive pack for random people. In other game people spend soo much more bicous there are 1,5,10, and go up to 100e pack and no diference what lvl its the buyer. And even random people say its just 1 or5 whatever and then after monts he looks and see he spend 100 :D
Hello nice to meet you, I watch & subscribe to your RUclips channel.
I wanted to bother you with some advice. I recently started playing STSC after being gone for 2 yrs. My station is Lv 20. I recently had surgery and will be laid up for 6 months and now have an enormous amount of time to play now. But everyone in my galaxy is so powerful & far more experienced , that I’m considering deleting my account and starting a new one in a younger galaxy. But I thought maybe I’d get some advice from a pro on weather that’s a wise decision ?
Thank you for your input and sorry to bother you
Hello from s100 🖖
What about the pointless £99 primes????
They all suck as each pack is only a small drop in the bucket.
If a pack doesn't have ship parts it doesn't have much value for me at 46.
thx Rev!
ty for the video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rev deuce LLAP!
Props for mentioning that if you do not redeem all of the Elite Monthly tokens on time, you will not be able to redeem in the coming years. I found that one out the hard way. Ugh.
Quality Vs quantity?
lol there has never been a $20 pack in our neck of the woods .. Elite packs are $200 . mid packs are $100 , the battle pass has gone from $34 to $40 in 3 months .. only affordable if your rich , retired and rich etc etc
Tell them to localize the price, I am paying 15.000JPY for 100USD packs, before was just 12.000JPY (;__;)
I don't want to spend any money on the game. I would rather play and earn everything. 😂
rofl cs2 skins are valued in the million and yes people buy them
None of the packs in this game have any real value, if anything they have a negative value. As you progress in this game the grind and cost of everything increases, so you'd either have to continue spending larger sums of money to mitigate that or endure even more grind and increasing costs. Scopely's business model is to create problems and bottlenecks in the game so they can sell you the solution, if people continue to buy those solutions they will continue to create more problems and bottlenecks.
I realise that without people buying packs and stuff the game wouldn't exist, but if they at least made Scopely work a bit harder to earn their money then the game would likely be in a much better state than it currently is.
All the packs are not worth it. Back in the days they wore worth spending that but now a days not worth it at all
Propaganda. Lvl49…......it looks amazing to lowers
Scopely as far as their prices go everything is $100 give me a break.
current treasury has no gas so no to that one
The answer is no, they are not worth it. Pay the price of a new triple A PlayStation 5 / X box game for a few virtual pixels for a “free to play” game.
They want your money, buyer beware
HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO OOOO!!!! There ain't nothing in this game that is worth the prices they charge for EVERYTHING & ANYTHING all these years later from its start and the game is still just as glitchy and faulty as day one there are a lot of open sores in this game Scopely just puts Band-Aids on them and calls it a rainbow this was my first so-called free to play mobile game with purchases it was not a good thing at all so many problems they never fix but they keep the whales happy it's sheer disrespect of the Star Trek name and franchise I'm at the end of my rope here
Considering 100$ to be an option in a shitty mobile game is ridiculous to me.
That are 5 triple AA games in a deep sale. Or 5 Indie games eithout a sale.
Each and every one better than this skinner box of a game.
I play this while bored at work or taking a shit, that is not worth any amount of money.
Who has £100 to spend money in this game?!!!
Spend spend spend shill
Rev do you wanna be my online girlfriend?
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