I have the v6 as well. I replaced 3 clutches in 4 months racing ended up going with a ACT stage 4 (extreme) pressure plate and a racing disk, just to get any sort of longevity and no slipping.
Happy for you! You deserved a little happiness, after all the troubles this car had so far. Still, I believe this car is cursed. No, not in a wrong way. This means it needs a little more care and perseverance. Projects like this are what in the end matter the most. Cause, you're ending up remembering all the troubles you've faced and and in what ways you've dealt with them. Again, happy for you.
i loved this video ! Εσθανομαι τοσο ωραια που κωστα που εισαι σε μια πιστα που μπορω να κανω relate οπως και στο μερος και το αμαξι .Thank you guess for the video
Congratulations! Well Done with fantastic lap consistency. Cracked rotors? Worn out brake pads? Bald/corded tires? Hell Yeah! All wear items that should be worthless after a track event. 👍👏👏
That is the concept. We brought the car here during the off-season to keep driving. We are proudly going through expendables (and at the same time figuring small problems that would potentially take months of use to pop-up).
I was always just okay at skating, until I stopped thinking about doing tricks and just focused on landing. Served me well in driving too; if my mind is busy looking for the exit, my hands just do the turning. Maybe it's just the car being twitchy, but it looks like you're a little early on the turn-in (not telling you your business, just an observation from someone who's probably a lot slower than you) SUBBED!
@@nviorres actually it is not bs. As we replied below, to an extent it is the tight nature of the track that makes the understeer more apparent. Other than that the understeer was there both at the 'Ring and at another track we tested in between. It is not because of the heavy engine (because it wasn't there before changing suspension and because the actual engine is not heavy). It has to do with the spring rates we picked and the idea of what we thought would be fast around the 'Ring. We obviously were... wrong but that is the 'fun' part of fine tuning an extensive swap like this. Hopefully when all is said and done we are going to have an even better car...
@@OneLapHeroes I know mate, I have put my own share of laps there :) Also, I am no setup expert, but shifting the weight distribution to the front on a front engine car (although one can argue that it's pulled quite back) with RWD should in theory make it oversteer more than before.
Sweet video and, as you point out and demonstrated, short tracks high-light any brake, and engine, cooling issues. Not too sure, but sounded like there was a hint of clutch slippage on the 3>4 changes?
He normally takes some hardware home. But it is usually stuff that has fallen off the car and such... And what WTAC? The only challenge Kostas is interested taking is your MX-5 one! :)
Great driving! Does the car feel the same from left to right? It seems to snap more to the left and understeer more to the right on video. Looks so much fun! Love this swap. Keep it up!
Car feels same left to right! We'd say is the repeating nature of the track 'fast left hander to quite tight right hander' that makes it look like this. However this is an amount of understeer we aren't cool with (the occasional snapping here and there is okay because track was far from ideal both days - although that isn't clearly visible in the onboard- and there is the odd over-correcting from Kostas). All started from us trying to create a more NS friendly setup that can put the power down however fixing that we introduced some understeer that apparently can't be tuned out no matter what we tried (bar going for different springs).
@@OneLapHeroes After our discussion on the previous video I can't say I'm too surprised about the understeer ! Does the car still not have a rear bar ? I would try finding a Mazdaspeed bar (14mm iirc) or even put the OE one back in and see what it does.
I really like 5-lap format, it lets normal balanced cars shine instead of regular 1-lap time attack beasts.. It's clear that you saved the brakes a lot, but car also seems to be understeering a bit, is it?
We changed the brakes to... shitty road pads (minutes before race 1) but unfortunately had no replacement rotors. So we did both races on cracked rotors and not properly bedded pads. The objective was to baby the car around. Unfortunately though the understeer is there and we are having a hard time to tune it out. (It is the nature of this specific track that makes it even more apparent)
We want to say he won by pure luck... but we will cut him some slack and let him enjoy this one! He kinda deserves it after all the pain, break-downs and misery.
Kostas, Do you find that the BGW makes a difference? I’m looking at improving aero to help maintain rear end down through high speed corners, have just added an air splitter into my GV front lip, looking at a BGW and rear diffuser at some point soon. Need to tame the power. 91 Eunos TD04 19T - 12psi running 280hp 15x8 Rota RKR with Maxxis ZR9 rubber MeisterR Clubrace coil overs 1.8 brakes, mintex 1144 rear, roddisons pods front (crap, not recommended).
It would have been nice to see what the competition for the MX-5 was. As for the reliability, it could be worse, like being stuck in pitlane with a broken Mercedes GT4 1 hour and 20 minutes before the end of a 24h race: ruclips.net/video/PZDSjdhBcWc/видео.html
A mix of everything. The 'ceremony' at the end was for the 'Sport class' (all cars together regardless of displacement and drivetrain but no slicks) and good OLH friend Manos was in 2nd place with his Elise and an EVO IX in the 3rd place. That burn for Gab though... man... look how angry his hands are... definitely not a cool way to finish some very solid stints...
@@nosv2010 at 7200 rpm and with a flat torque curve from almost idle, we'd also agree with you the engine is screaming (and it might not have VTEC but still has VVT so indeed the car revs to the last 100rpm). That said it is brutally fast and FINALLY reliable and that's all we care but of course can't be to everyone's taste.
Unfortunately same problem from earlier videos getting a bit worse. We have no idea what to do (other than getting the engine/trans down again) since the whole clutch/pressure plate/flywheel assembly is new and we can't believe it is worn out in less than 6 months.
Maybe something with the clutch release system, a restriction or some binding. Since its only when you shift. Does it slip if you just get on the gas a tad later?
Correct, and it might be a possibility. But if you are familiar with Miatas is quite tricky to run high diameter wheels. (Physically there is no space) Also this isn't a problem in faster tracks with bigger straights (and more time to cool down) the system so we don't want to radical changes if there aren't absolutely needed. Anyway we have a few things in mind, stay tuned. It will either work or... not! In any case we are going to share it. :)
Kostas, your success story after all the troubles is really a nice hearth warming chance of pace. Nevertheless, I always enjoyed seeing your failures way more, sorry. Thumbs down and unsubscribed until Mythos properly suffers again. ❤
What a... great friend! Not only we have a feeling there is some suffering... pending but you will have to witness it first hand because people are waiting for that ND to make a return. Yes or yes?
I’m not a fan of this swap; the shifter throw is massive, it doesn’t seem particularly fast, and it doesn’t rev high. A properly built ITB 1.8 semi race motor would be better.
We aren't going to try to convince you to... like(?) this swap but since this is raised for a second time we will through our two cents. This revs to 7200 rpm (exactly like an MX-5 engine) and has double the power (and more than double the torque) than most ITB builds. If this doesn't seem particularly fast guess what? An ITB MX-5 will neither. So an 'ITB 1.8 semi race motor' wouldn't be better by any metric we can imagine. If you want a high revving swap, you might want to check our upcoming K20 build. That said... if you ever build that 1.8 ITB killer setup, that is indeed better, we'd be happy to have a look!
OneLapHeroes thanks for your reply, perhaps it’s just the video and how it comes across. Were you revving to 7200 in the videos, it sounds more like 6000. What’s the cars weight please and hp? The gearing seems long from the videos, perhaps that is giving me the impression that it is less ‘frantic’. I haven’t built a better car unfortunately (no time) but have built a Eunos Roadster 1.6 turbo myself @ 265hp and 870kgs. A better car and a better approach would be from one of the guys from the ‘Circuit Driver’ Chanel; a K20 swap with HKS supercharger and light weight, has nice close gearing and absolutely flies, worth checking out. Credit to you for building something unique though 👍
@@Speedwelltuning The LFX has 300hp bone stock like a daily driver Camaro (i.e. bulletproof). I'd say for a base swap it's a good baseline lol... The torque makes it so gearing doesn't quite need to be super short either. Now whether that's less or more fun is subjective.
I have the v6 as well. I replaced 3 clutches in 4 months racing ended up going with a ACT stage 4 (extreme) pressure plate and a racing disk, just to get any sort of longevity and no slipping.
Five Lap Heroes
From one to five is something! We are happy with one small step at a time!
Congratulations! That is awesome. How inspiring.
Happy for you! You deserved a little happiness, after all the troubles this car had so far. Still, I believe this car is cursed. No, not in a wrong way. This means it needs a little more care and perseverance. Projects like this are what in the end matter the most. Cause, you're ending up remembering all the troubles you've faced and and in what ways you've dealt with them. Again, happy for you.
You are on fire, Kostas!!!! 🙌 Good job 😘 now let that crazy Miata come to the Nürburgring and keep on hitn' it 😀❤️
i loved this video ! Εσθανομαι τοσο ωραια που κωστα που εισαι σε μια πιστα που μπορω να κανω relate οπως και στο μερος και το αμαξι .Thank you guess for the video
Congratulations! Well Done with fantastic lap consistency.
Cracked rotors? Worn out brake pads? Bald/corded tires? Hell Yeah! All wear items that should be worthless after a track event. 👍👏👏
That is the concept. We brought the car here during the off-season to keep driving. We are proudly going through expendables (and at the same time figuring small problems that would potentially take months of use to pop-up).
Loving this development. Good work, boys!
It was great fun.! The car has huge potential, just needs some fine tuning.
It just needs some DEEP pockets... but ours are empty as well! :P
@@OneLapHeroes I can tell that you already have fun with the car as it is so..no hurry. Let's enjoy every step of making it better.!
I was always just okay at skating, until I stopped thinking about doing tricks and just focused on landing. Served me well in driving too; if my mind is busy looking for the exit, my hands just do the turning. Maybe it's just the car being twitchy, but it looks like you're a little early on the turn-in (not telling you your business, just an observation from someone who's probably a lot slower than you) SUBBED!
Fantastic!
love yours vid. greatings from Poland
Μπράβο Κωνσταντίνε!!!
Great job !
perfect! and the editing.
Hope to see a quick lap on Serres circuit :)
Great effort ..good on you !
looks it needs light flywheel and seems to be heavy engine causes understeer
I know it's gonna sound bs, but the understeer -- to some extent -- can be attributed to the track
@@nviorres actually it is not bs. As we replied below, to an extent it is the tight nature of the track that makes the understeer more apparent.
Other than that the understeer was there both at the 'Ring and at another track we tested in between. It is not because of the heavy engine (because it wasn't there before changing suspension and because the actual engine is not heavy). It has to do with the spring rates we picked and the idea of what we thought would be fast around the 'Ring. We obviously were... wrong but that is the 'fun' part of fine tuning an extensive swap like this. Hopefully when all is said and done we are going to have an even better car...
@@OneLapHeroes I know mate, I have put my own share of laps there :) Also, I am no setup expert, but shifting the weight distribution to the front on a front engine car (although one can argue that it's pulled quite back) with RWD should in theory make it oversteer more than before.
Dual mass flywheel causing give between shifts? Or worn out clutch?
Sweet video and, as you point out and demonstrated, short tracks high-light any brake, and engine, cooling issues.
Not too sure, but sounded like there was a hint of clutch slippage on the 3>4 changes?
Taking home some hardware! Nice work! Next stop, World Time Attack Challenge? ;)
He normally takes some hardware home. But it is usually stuff that has fallen off the car and such...
And what WTAC? The only challenge Kostas is interested taking is your MX-5 one! :)
@@OneLapHeroes now that you finally have a fast & reliable Miata, surely you don't want to fly to Canada to drive a slow one? :P
Ill let you drive mine, just need to help me swap out the transmission ! Hahahaha
@@WilliamLevesqueineX before or after I drive it? LOL
@@speedacademydave LOL, who has the more chance of breaking it ? No wait, thats a dumb question actually.
Congrats !
Great driving! Does the car feel the same from left to right? It seems to snap more to the left and understeer more to the right on video. Looks so much fun! Love this swap. Keep it up!
Car feels same left to right! We'd say is the repeating nature of the track 'fast left hander to quite tight right hander' that makes it look like this.
However this is an amount of understeer we aren't cool with (the occasional snapping here and there is okay because track was far from ideal both days - although that isn't clearly visible in the onboard- and there is the odd over-correcting from Kostas). All started from us trying to create a more NS friendly setup that can put the power down however fixing that we introduced some understeer that apparently can't be tuned out no matter what we tried (bar going for different springs).
@@OneLapHeroes After our discussion on the previous video I can't say I'm too surprised about the understeer ! Does the car still not have a rear bar ? I would try finding a Mazdaspeed bar (14mm iirc) or even put the OE one back in and see what it does.
@@OneLapHeroes Great to know! Interesting! Thanks.
I really like 5-lap format, it lets normal balanced cars shine instead of regular 1-lap time attack beasts..
It's clear that you saved the brakes a lot, but car also seems to be understeering a bit, is it?
We changed the brakes to... shitty road pads (minutes before race 1) but unfortunately had no replacement rotors.
So we did both races on cracked rotors and not properly bedded pads. The objective was to baby the car around.
Unfortunately though the understeer is there and we are having a hard time to tune it out.
(It is the nature of this specific track that makes it even more apparent)
Kostas won his group? Tell us more! :-D Great editing btw!
We want to say he won by pure luck... but we will cut him some slack and let him enjoy this one! He kinda deserves it after all the pain, break-downs and misery.
@@OneLapHeroes Victory is victory! And doesn't it always take a bit (or a bit more) of luck? :-D
I feel like your clutch has some delayed release. Maybe it has a delay spring to help it shift smoother.
Well done !!!! what is going on with the clutch ? Is that you being carefull ?
Nope. Careful only on the brakes. Clutch slipping on the upshifts is its own thing...
Kostas,
Do you find that the BGW makes a difference? I’m looking at improving aero to help maintain rear end down through high speed corners, have just added an air splitter into my GV front lip, looking at a BGW and rear diffuser at some point soon. Need to tame the power.
91 Eunos
TD04 19T - 12psi running 280hp
15x8 Rota RKR with Maxxis ZR9 rubber
MeisterR Clubrace coil overs
1.8 brakes, mintex 1144 rear, roddisons pods front (crap, not recommended).
So what is your final set up? V6 Chevy LFX but which trans/diff and brakes?
Thanks
It would have been nice to see what the competition for the MX-5 was. As for the reliability, it could be worse, like being stuck in pitlane with a broken Mercedes GT4 1 hour and 20 minutes before the end of a 24h race: ruclips.net/video/PZDSjdhBcWc/видео.html
A mix of everything. The 'ceremony' at the end was for the 'Sport class' (all cars together regardless of displacement and drivetrain but no slicks) and good OLH friend Manos was in 2nd place with his Elise and an EVO IX in the 3rd place. That burn for Gab though... man... look how angry his hands are... definitely not a cool way to finish some very solid stints...
Engine seems to bog a bit on shifts. Can this thing be tuned?
MiataIsAlwaysThe Answer(especially when combined with a screaming v6)
nikolas karampelias but that’s not screaming at all 😂
@@Speedwelltuning sure, it's not a vtec engine. But just think what engine the miata comes with
@@nosv2010 at 7200 rpm and with a flat torque curve from almost idle, we'd also agree with you the engine is screaming (and it might not have VTEC but still has VVT so indeed the car revs to the last 100rpm). That said it is brutally fast and FINALLY reliable and that's all we care but of course can't be to everyone's taste.
clutch slipping a little?
Unfortunately same problem from earlier videos getting a bit worse. We have no idea what to do (other than getting the engine/trans down again) since the whole clutch/pressure plate/flywheel assembly is new and we can't believe it is worn out in less than 6 months.
Maybe something with the clutch release system, a restriction or some binding. Since its only when you shift. Does it slip if you just get on the gas a tad later?
Is this the LFX twin turbo or have you considered the factory upgrade
Clutch sounds like it slips on gear up.
Yep. No bueno. :(
Oh I thought that was bogging down from the note ideal diff gears.
You need bigger size wheels so you can run bigger diameter brakes, its clear that it can't handle the heat with this set up
Correct, and it might be a possibility. But if you are familiar with Miatas is quite tricky to run high diameter wheels.
(Physically there is no space) Also this isn't a problem in faster tracks with bigger straights (and more time to cool down) the system so we don't want to radical changes if there aren't absolutely needed. Anyway we have a few things in mind, stay tuned. It will either work or... not! In any case we are going to share it. :)
Kostas, your success story after all the troubles is really a nice hearth warming chance of pace. Nevertheless, I always enjoyed seeing your failures way more, sorry. Thumbs down and unsubscribed until Mythos properly suffers again. ❤
What a... great friend! Not only we have a feeling there is some suffering... pending but you will have to witness it first hand because people are waiting for that ND to make a return. Yes or yes?
That thing easily has a 1:06 in it.
That thing DID a 1:06.1 and probably can do better! It just run completely out of brakes and we had to baby it around through both races... :)
Θα το δουμε ξανα στις 27 που εχει trackday?
Probably yes!
Get NEW clutch! Other than that, epic as allways.
We hope it doesn't need (another) new clutch...
@@OneLapHeroes Just buy a better one.. :p
RIP clutch...
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I’m not a fan of this swap; the shifter throw is massive, it doesn’t seem particularly fast, and it doesn’t rev high. A properly built ITB 1.8 semi race motor would be better.
We aren't going to try to convince you to... like(?) this swap but since this is raised for a second time we will through our two cents. This revs to 7200 rpm (exactly like an MX-5 engine) and has double the power (and more than double the torque) than most ITB builds. If this doesn't seem particularly fast guess what? An ITB MX-5 will neither. So an 'ITB 1.8 semi race motor' wouldn't be better by any metric we can imagine. If you want a high revving swap, you might want to check our upcoming K20 build. That said... if you ever build that 1.8 ITB killer setup, that is indeed better, we'd be happy to have a look!
OneLapHeroes thanks for your reply, perhaps it’s just the video and how it comes across. Were you revving to 7200 in the videos, it sounds more like 6000. What’s the cars weight please and hp? The gearing seems long from the videos, perhaps that is giving me the impression that it is less ‘frantic’. I haven’t built a better car unfortunately (no time) but have built a Eunos Roadster 1.6 turbo myself @ 265hp and 870kgs. A better car and a better approach would be from one of the guys from the ‘Circuit Driver’ Chanel; a K20 swap with HKS supercharger and light weight, has nice close gearing and absolutely flies, worth checking out. Credit to you for building something unique though 👍
@@Speedwelltuning The LFX has 300hp bone stock like a daily driver Camaro (i.e. bulletproof). I'd say for a base swap it's a good baseline lol... The torque makes it so gearing doesn't quite need to be super short either. Now whether that's less or more fun is subjective.