Guild Wars 2 - The Hall of Chains Part 4 | Dhuum, The Final Death

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @WoodenPotatoes
    @WoodenPotatoes  7 лет назад +31

    And that's it! The Hall of chains COVERED! I must say, guys, you'll probably find that I try to cover raid releases in the future very differently. The time sunk and the lack of confidence in the final product with this wing just hasn't been worth it, so you'll probably see a different format in future that I won't sweat so much over.
    Other videos will be hot on this ones tail. I have a set of videos those watching me on twitch will probably be able to guess at, there was plenty of news this week, and probably an EP2 announcement on Tuesday. Getting back in the swing of things after all this stuff on the plate over PoF launch, the competition, and EP1 triple release stuff. Cheers all!

    • @dannysanders5391
      @dannysanders5391 7 лет назад +2

      Yes man need my non raid WP fix!

    • @WarriorTRZ
      @WarriorTRZ 7 лет назад +1

      It's Possible that they are Aiming for a "Wing" being one of the Underworlds... or the Realms of the God's... Fissure of Woe? Lyssa's Realm?

    • @W4lhalla
      @W4lhalla 7 лет назад +1

      I would say Anet is going for more Underworld Wings. When I went to the entrances in the Aerodrome I saw something interesting. Spirit Vale, Salvation Pass and Stronghold of the Faithful all have the region name Forsaken Thicket written there, when you try to enter Bastion of the Penitent just its name is written and the Hall of Chains has the Underworld as a headline written there.
      So I think its safe to assume that we will see more wings in the Underworld. Perhaps on in the Chaos Plane with a Four Horsemen Fight or something else.

    • @syviren6408
      @syviren6408 7 лет назад +1

      Fortunate for HUMAN kind. Not the living. HUMAN...

    • @austingarrison6739
      @austingarrison6739 7 лет назад

      I love it WP. I personally appreciate your overview.
      P.S. pls don't kill my ele so harshly anymore k thx bye lol

  • @nushmag
    @nushmag 7 лет назад +17

    Hey WP, even though you may not feel your coverage on Wing 5 lives up to your standard of your content. I still think it hits the mark for what I really enjoy from your videos. You explain lore points, do drawbacks to GW1 and show us what different things the devs are referencing, and you explain us what the different mechanics. I don't come to your channel to watch speed clears, or advanced raid tactics. So I think you nailed it in regards to fleshing out the lore and explain the various mechanics of the wing. Keep it up, I really enjoy your content!

  • @jonasmemborg4196
    @jonasmemborg4196 5 лет назад

    Really enjoy your covering of the raids here. Fits your style. Talking lore and story, references from GW1 (played it myself, but joined during EotN and mainly solo'ed the campaigns, so a lot of the high end content I didn't get to experience), AND I think you do a good job of explaining what's going on with the mechanics. Your geeking out is infectious, I love it!
    - Came back after a long hiatus, and want to get into raiding. Been wanting Dhuum as hardcore content for a while now. Good to see we got him, even if I'm a year late. And those Hall of Chains drops are looking mighty sweet.

  • @RLBscoring
    @RLBscoring 7 лет назад +15

    Seven seals. How biblical

  • @davesobani9565
    @davesobani9565 4 года назад +2

    So we have statues of abaddon.. why not of dhuum? Also dhuum is then one of the original pantheon of the Six along with abbadon.
    Where did he come from? Can he actually die or is he truly undying unlike the other gods. And if he is undying is this a hint the the other gods are perhaps replacements of their originals? As i remember ( correct me if i'm wrong) grenth is the demi god son of Dwayna, and Kormir was "blessed/altered" by the rest of the five before she tooks abbadons place.
    So this could imply that the rest of the gods are also replacements....

  • @Northstars0422
    @Northstars0422 7 лет назад +19

    Desmina seems really suspicious...did she cause the reapers to die for the ritual so she would get sole control of the underworld uncontested? Really hope they touch in on this!

    • @allah-a2353
      @allah-a2353 3 года назад

      Im pretty sure dhuum killed them, he did a massive sacrifice, it lifts the players up aswell

  • @whiskeykitty
    @whiskeykitty 7 лет назад

    Thanks so much for showing this off, I really enjoyed this video!

  • @wafflingmean4477
    @wafflingmean4477 7 лет назад +6

    My guess is that she's altered the bonds to be linked to her in some way, and she wants to leech off of Dhuum's power in a similar way to how he leeched off of souls that died in the Underworld, and as she rules in Grenth's name and the Reapers are gone, she is completely unchallenged in taking over the Underworld. Perhaps she was involved in helping him get free in the first place, perhaps somehow forcing him to act now, before he became effectively undefeatable. Perhaps she intends to become Goddess of Death some day. This could be interesting, because she might have lost her faith in Grenth, seeing as he has left both Tyria and the Mists. Perhaps she feels she needs to step up in order to replace him. I wonder, if she has linked the bonds to herself, maybe they are in a sense unbreakable, but her destruction is the key that makes them unlock.

  • @rainpumpkin7266
    @rainpumpkin7266 7 лет назад +15

    oh my, 1 hour.
    Time to get my popcorn

  • @nedogw2
    @nedogw2 6 лет назад +3

    Just a Theory:
    First Thing That came to my mind After Hearing That Last Dialogue with desmina was~
    "She somehow turned the reapers into those unbreakable chains with that alteration to the ritual"
    That Gets Her Sole Control of The Underworld + Keep Dhumm Locked
    I Would Really Love If She Would Become A Villain Later in the Story And Grenth Comes Back to Save The Day or Some Shit!
    Imo that Would Be Really cool.

  • @amisfitpuivk
    @amisfitpuivk 7 лет назад +1

    Cool vintage GW1 raid! Also I heard clicking spells was the most efficient way to raid :)

  • @Lytalm55
    @Lytalm55 7 лет назад

    FYI, the "bombs" (when you're afflicted) respawns as soon a the previous one exploded. So it's best to hold it for as long as possible if you're a support class (or if you were fortunate enough to get it while going for a green and getting into the air). After you blow up with an affliction, you get a debuff preventing from getting another one for a short time, making it impossible for someone to get 2 of that mechanic in a row.

  • @rainpumpkin7266
    @rainpumpkin7266 7 лет назад +3

    8:05 It's the Reaper of the Ice Wastes
    Found it somewhere on wiki

    • @rainpumpkin7266
      @rainpumpkin7266 7 лет назад +1

      "The Avatar of Grenth is one of Grenth's Seven Reapers, assumed by Priestess Rhie to be the Reaper of the Ice Wastes, Grenth's most faithful Reaper. He is summoned in order to find the source of Orr, and agrees to do so if the Pact Commander's party kills the Keeper of the Shrine who has been corrupted by Zhaitan."

  • @EddieQuezada
    @EddieQuezada 4 года назад

    WP learned from his past gw1 life. WP is the Avatar! 😎

  • @SpanishProgressive
    @SpanishProgressive 7 лет назад

    Glad I could be there to help with your first clear! RIP Shawn for that kill lol

  • @rainpumpkin7266
    @rainpumpkin7266 7 лет назад +2

    43:17 what the hell happen to the thing at the middle? looks wierd

  • @rainpumpkin7266
    @rainpumpkin7266 7 лет назад +8

    20:15 Zhaitan encounter?
    You mean Eater of Souls I think XD

    • @MehrumesDagon
      @MehrumesDagon 7 лет назад +1

      well in previous vid he pointed out that eater of souls uses same base model as mouth of zhaitan.... ;)

  • @MurtorSH
    @MurtorSH 6 лет назад

    This will help me a lot for sure. Thanks.

  • @luisjosp5
    @luisjosp5 7 лет назад

    This was pretty interesting to watch, specially after 6 hours of editing a Spanish Raid Guide for this Boss (uploading soon). Great lore :D

  • @Klephtes
    @Klephtes 7 лет назад +5

    you should always delay the bomb, bomb spawn when the previous one explode. If you delay all the bomb will spawn just befor the soul split and so doesnt explode but if someone doesnt delay it would explode just before and that would be a mess

    • @WoodenPotatoes
      @WoodenPotatoes  7 лет назад

      Perfect! I'll remember to do that now!

    • @extraemail5972
      @extraemail5972 6 лет назад

      yea getting a bomb 11seconds before soul split is annoying

    • @ves138
      @ves138 6 лет назад

      WoodenPotatoes i was wondering, what is your favourite wing so far? Imo Hall of Chains is my fav due to how hard it was, but story wise, bastion of penitent

  • @daesz
    @daesz 2 года назад

    My solo UW run back then always finished with failing the 4 horsemen event :D

  • @Iwillgotohell2
    @Iwillgotohell2 7 лет назад

    your kill in the video reminded me of one of the few times I killed VG, but instead of time it was everyone was downed and we were all dieing one after another, then VG died with like 1 or 2 people "alive"

  • @RoyScot
    @RoyScot 7 лет назад

    THE TIMERS BELOW ARE FROM THE BOSSES ENRAGE TIMER - NOT - VIDEO TIMES. (Did a lot of research on Dhuum ^^)
    Suck Attack (Greater Deathmark) : 6:25 | 5:05 | 3:45 | 2:25 | 1:05 [ FREQ = 80 seconds]
    Slam Field (Lesser Deathmark) : 7:05 | 5:45 | 4:25 | 3:05 | 1:45 | 0:25 [FREQ = 80 seconds]
    Shackles : @60%hp - move 1200 units away from targeted ally or take constant ticking damage until one player is dead. [FREQ = ?]
    --> Red message in chat is best warning to look out for. You can also hear the reapers warning (in game dialogue).
    How to memorise Slam Field times : [Suck attack time] + [40 seconds] - (i.e exactly half way between each suck)
    --> Let bombs time-out (explode) natrually for optimal dps & for lining up with suck attacks. ONLY blow up manually 10s before suck.
    Reaper Teleport : Starts at arrow going clockwise @ 9:30 | 9:00 | 8:30....XX:00 | XX:30.... [FREQ = 30 seconds until enrage]
    --> You have 11 seconds to collect 5 orbs or you will die. (15s total but you waste 4 travelling up in green)
    --> As soon as you are teleported up travel clockwise to collect 1 big orb (to stop enforcer) and 4 small.
    Messengers : Pre-event interval 10 seconds (ish), during boss fight every 60 seconds.
    --> De-spawn time is 20s.
    Cataclysmic Cycle (Pull) : @40%hp. He does this AT THE SAME TIME as 'green cracks mechanic'. (Reduced playerspace)
    Note : Going into downed state in mid at 10% doesn't kill you. You become a spirit and can collect orbs (just move out of mid quickly or die)
    Note : When you arrive back from green you are given a buff that means : (i) you take no damage for Xs & ((ii) are not effected by suck (pulled/movement impaired/given torment) (iii) even if you arrive back BEFORE suck occurs, if the buff is on you all the above apply AND (iv) In CM Ender's Echo doesn't pick you up when walking over you.)
    Note : Dhuum has a 'Deathly Aura' and damages players within Xrange of the boss. Players going to greens early may take a lot of damage from this.

  • @skelletorjo3227
    @skelletorjo3227 6 лет назад

    0:04 Daaaamn! That is an amazing armor. Wish we got the instead.

  • @_Banjo_
    @_Banjo_ 7 лет назад +27

    Its pretty haunting this whole we dont belong here. The land of the dead and all. Its also pretty weird that a Human (ish) is now in charge othe underworld. Can we seriously trust her? There are no reapers now to take care of the area should their new master go crazy with power. Theres a lot of short term wins in this game with long term consequences.
    now i wonder considering Menzies was planned to have more involvement, if we get more info about the other realms and their importance to the balance? Did we need God like beings in charge to harness this power (aka Kormir stepping up)? As much as id like to explore more of the underworld, the fissue of WoE seems far too likely for the next wing.
    There could easily be some ties to DoA (kormir version) and story threads with Rytlock (as we've hoped for years). Who knows.... all i know is theres a lot of oppetunities. Some people say the gods leaving in PoF felt a bit iffy and there was a few odd plot holes. These could easily be answered in upcoming living world and raid wings.
    I wonder if the whole not cursing lyssa thing and the mirror will come major story threads of dealt with with raids instead?

    • @rosalinde4706
      @rosalinde4706 7 лет назад +1

      I also wonder what happend to the npc from the pof story "The Departing", who is called "The Judge". Is he gone too? He looked like some sort of leader inside the underworld, or a higher ranked follower at least, after al the position he was in was in important.

    • @oONeosamOo
      @oONeosamOo 7 лет назад +4

      On the reapers part, I personally think Desmina made them merge with the seals so that they are "unbreakable" as the player character says.
      On the Desmina part, a buddy of mine suggested that we might get some raids in other gods territories (we go in Kormir's in the PoF story and we know Abaddon's demons are coming back so why not) and we may see the equivalent of Desmina in these for each god, which could either be new gods, or a weird future evil alliance we'll need to fight at the end of the day.
      Plus, when you stand next to her during the Statues Encounters, she steals red orbs from the members of the raid... There's something fishy about Desmina I don't trust her at all.

    • @rosalinde4706
      @rosalinde4706 7 лет назад

      The red orbs you mentioned remind me of the downstead 1 skill of the necromancer.

    • @extraemail5972
      @extraemail5972 6 лет назад

      it also brings up interesting ideas. If desmina can take over where dhuum was in power, can other humans (if desmina can still be considered mortal anyway) attempt to fill power vacuums left by the gods? what if more than one person wants to fill that void?

    • @rosalinde4706
      @rosalinde4706 6 лет назад

      Ok Extra Email, my answer turned out to be longer then i expected xD
      Indeed there is sertinly a power vacuum left by the gods and this needs to be filled. And from Desminas words about Grenth "I will have his bidding done as i see fit" I believe what Grenth even left a kind of plan and hiracy for his followers for his absence, but it does not seem to include a new god. I mean he could have just pretented to be gone, couln't he? If he left a plan, did he plan to return? Kormir simply left here place unguarded, as we can see at the end of the story to get the griffin mount, and the demons, once followers of Abaddon, returned to there former, now dead, masters realm. It doesn't look like someone is ready to keep Kormirs power vacuum in controle or even actually trys to, or are the demons ready and actually do take care of it?
      One thing about the entire Dhuum-Grenth-Power-Story always feelt strange to me: If Grenth is Dhuums hire. The god of "darkness, ice, and death", why *exactly* is Dhuum still around?
      We know from Guild Wars one what Kormir was able to become the hire of Abaddon (Nightfall campain), but we allso learn that his fellow gods once there not able to destroy him so they kept him imprissoned. Kormir says what Balthazar was "stripped of his clayms entirely and chained in the mists", Abaddon was chained up as well, and the seal keeping dhuum imprissioned looks like chains and its place is called "the hall of chain", maby all this chains work in simulare ways.
      Its stated in the games that Grenth could not destroy Dhuum. Why couln't he? Why couln't Grenth destroy Dhuum and absorb his powers to become the god of Death? If we, the players, could do it with Abaddon and Balthazar? I asume that Grenth was prepared to take Dhuums place, but (I believe) Kormir was not for Abaddon and I asume that Kralkatorik or/and Aurine there not prepared to absorbe what was left of Balthazar. Or are dragons just always prepared to absorb more magic? Aurene didn't look like it was a "normal" "natural" thing to to.
      Or is this even the normal way of things? Is the old god simply overpowered by the new and imprissioned or do they chose to give away there powers to a hire?
      This entire plot makes me wonder is Dhuum still the god of Death? Is he *one* god of Death? And Grenth is a *secound* god of Death? Are Dhuum and Grenth littaraly two beeings sitting on the same chair? Do they bouth have acces to all powers, just to special powers, or is one weaker then the other is stronger?
      It's a pretty complex world building behind it actually. Or I am just thinking waaaaaay to complex xD

  • @Thornefield
    @Thornefield 7 лет назад +14

    Your video is rapidly flashing at SEVERAL points to your WP wooden board background loading screen.

  • @luisjosp5
    @luisjosp5 7 лет назад

    Whats the name of the program used at 11:40 where you can "draw" and pause the clip?

  • @Trigun91
    @Trigun91 7 лет назад +6

    00:05 sounds like Dhuum was doing a great job until Grenth came, now we got undead and ppl escaping death lol.
    was Dhuum a villain in the lore before Grenth fought him?just wondering

    • @daemonprince13
      @daemonprince13 6 лет назад +8

      Yeah, Dhuum definitely may be a hard taskmaster but at least he's doing his job, not like Grenth... #NotMyGodOfDeath

  • @draconicfeline6177
    @draconicfeline6177 4 года назад

    Thank you for this, really enjoying it, also Desmina is sus as hell.

  • @RazielNightfall
    @RazielNightfall 6 лет назад

    0:56 it is nice to know that that doesn't only happen to me.

  • @warrenbeavis5940
    @warrenbeavis5940 7 лет назад +1

    Yo wooden. When your finished with this series of videos can you make a video listing all the meta specs. And explaining a bit about them. Ie. Strengths/ weaknesses a possible way to counter them maybe the build. And then maybe do a video for each game mode i.e. spvp/wvw/raid and fracts. I think this would be something a lot of ppl would like to see. And from what I can see other than meta battle there isn't much info out there like this.

    • @ves138
      @ves138 6 лет назад

      Warren Beavis reddit is your best friend

  • @zachnightingale8156
    @zachnightingale8156 6 лет назад

    I wish they kept the appearance of the reapers consistent

  • @extraemail5972
    @extraemail5972 6 лет назад

    "[The reapers] did as they were meant to do"..."The alterations to the ritual ensure that his new bonds are unbreakable".... tinfoil hat theory, the chains are made from the "souls" (or whatever the equivalent is) of the reapers themselves

  • @iMarcism
    @iMarcism 7 лет назад

    Can anybody tell me the armor skin or armor that he is wearing in the video?

  • @Techstriker1
    @Techstriker1 6 лет назад

    Definitely seems like she sacrificed the reapers both to make the prison "permanent" and to seize power in the underworld. The new god of death perhaps?

  • @RomanHold
    @RomanHold 7 лет назад

    well i'm that old school uwsc and fowsc and everydungeon and realm of torment sc guy got every class ready for everything (but i've given away some equip :/). 4 horseman was a wonderful quest do duo as two assasins or with eles. from time to time you could even solo it, when youve got the hang of the skellys it was even more fun cos of dodging skillfully their attack. but yes plaing the game without shadowform and the usual way 4 horseman was actually really difficult :D

  • @liutian3
    @liutian3 7 лет назад

    I think you can deny skeleton spawn eating 1 big orb and deny messenger spawn by eating 1 medium sized orb.

  • @rainpumpkin7266
    @rainpumpkin7266 7 лет назад +1

    51:49 ups

  • @davidmaclean2734
    @davidmaclean2734 6 лет назад

    Hey wp, something for the next q & a, so I was playing in the dessert the other day and came across kids playing ascension , they mention cynn, mhenlo ect. I was just wondering if you think these epic characters will play a part in future expansions, it would be a shame if anet just left them in the dust, forgive me if you mentioned this previously

  • @willgreenhall3317
    @willgreenhall3317 7 лет назад

    What is that armor called on the warrior?

  • @FatalFist
    @FatalFist 6 лет назад +2

    I just don't like how they handled Dhuum. I wanted him to be a more constant and reoccurring menace to the world of Tyria instead of offing him in the raid.

  • @catStone92
    @catStone92 6 лет назад +2

    whut? you could solo the underworld with just heros?
    damn, I must've been really shitty at the game

  • @FrostWolfPack
    @FrostWolfPack 7 лет назад

    What is the armor set of your warrior in the video?

  • @BlueWoWTaylan
    @BlueWoWTaylan 7 лет назад +7

    Desmina, I don't trust her...Honestly, at this point, I don't trust ANY Human Gods or their servants...

  • @Rkcuddles
    @Rkcuddles 4 года назад

    Don’t we become the new reapers? I thought the original humans who helped became reapers as a “reward”. But what if it’s a curse not a reward.

  • @tiavor
    @tiavor 7 лет назад

    I think she will randomly start talking after the end of an encounter, might take some while.

  • @TremereOfDarkness
    @TremereOfDarkness 7 лет назад

    Badass

  • @rainpumpkin7266
    @rainpumpkin7266 7 лет назад

    So basically Reapers got RIPed but Dhumm got sealed forever?

    • @supasuop12
      @supasuop12 7 лет назад +1

      RainPumpkin I think with desmina's "changes" to the ritual she made it so the reapers themselves ( or their essence) would bind Dhuum. Thus, making the harder to break if not impossible. This is speculation of course.

    • @MehrumesDagon
      @MehrumesDagon 7 лет назад

      sounds legitimate - especially considering her line on it at the end

  • @kierank3795
    @kierank3795 7 лет назад +3

    *S U C C*

  • @extraordinarymiso
    @extraordinarymiso 7 лет назад

    Max URSAN lfg!

  • @gamingmarcus
    @gamingmarcus 7 лет назад +6

    My first thought when seeing Dhuum: how is it possible to make the (imo) most badass boss of the entire GW1 universe look so incredibly bad and generic glowy like any other gw2 boss?
    And his scythe....ugh how can you make this epic weapon look so incredibly ugly? I honestly hate the artist who was responsible for this design.
    GW2: wiki.guildwars2.com/images/e/eb/Dhuum_full2.jpg
    Original: wiki.guildwars2.com/images/6/63/Dhuum_concept_art.jpg
    All of that fire just changed to generic glowy energy. He just doesn't look like a badass reaper anymore.

    • @EddieQuezada
      @EddieQuezada 7 лет назад +2

      Entenkommando completely agree. It looks like a WoW boss of some kind. 😣

    • @Reaper1722
      @Reaper1722 7 лет назад

      Entenkommando Dhuum was probably lifting weights.
      On a more serious note. Yeah i’m disappointed that they made him look this buff. I understand that he gathered energy, but still.

    • @serkanMKose
      @serkanMKose 6 лет назад +1

      That's what I think of 99% of the creature, armor and weapon designs. They look like they are created by a fresh graduates idea of "reimagining the concept of cool".

  • @WillianBusch
    @WillianBusch Год назад

    This was the beginning of WP fall.