After watching your videos for a long time. And practicing thumb draw with a korean horsebow in my backyard. I finally had enough convidance to shoot a 3D parcours. What a joy it was to do. 🥳 Thank you for sharing your knowledge in Asiatic archery and teaching us newcomers.
I don't think I've ever seen Armin do a speed test on a bow that was this fast. I realize the draw weight has a lot to do with speed but this is in the same range as his other test bows and this was like WOW!!!!!
The Nawalny Mongolian had crazy speeds. Thats what I got my eyes on for my next bow, and 34" draw! But I am very interested in this RX too, my bank account hates Armin 😄
I couldn't sleep and with the subscribers notification I was able to watch this video. and wow what an elegant bow. Now I can go to bed and sleep a little more. enjoy the weekend. 😊
I applaud Simon, and any other bowyer taking advantage of “Bias Weave”, sometimes called radial weave fibers in their bow construction. Most weaving we see everywhere in most fabrics is “Warp and Woof” weaving. Alternating one thread vertically, then one horizontally, or one straight ahead and the next at 90 degrees. This due to the efficiency of a weaving loom set up. Due to the weaving process, it is most economical to use the fabric in this orientation. Now think about how most bowyers apply their fiberglass and/or carbon fiber. Warp and Woof. One thread in the direction of the limb, and the other at 90 degrees. Basically one thread oriented to resist the longitudinal bend of the limb when drawn, and the 90 degree thread’s laterally resisting the twisting or applying some torsional rigidity. Now imaging the Warp and Woof fabric rotated 45 degrees. This is called a “Bias Weave”, or sometimes a Radial Weave. The first thing a Bias Weave will do is conform to “compound” or curved surfaces well. A traditional Warp and Woof weave will not. The other thing the Bias Weave will do is present two woven threads evenly at a 45 degree angle to both the longitudinal (bending) and lateral directions (torsion/twist) more evenly. Using the Bias Weave is a more costly use of the fabric, but it works more effectively in most situations dealing with force and loads.
A review I was very much looking forward to. Simon provides great craftsmanship. Thank you for this Armin, and introducing us to the Draw Curve database. Very helpful. As a luthier, I think of bows much like guitars. The market is full of mass manufactured guitars and bows, and every one is made exactly the same like furniture. Of course the price is lower. No concern as to the individual characteristics of the natural materials. Every individual piece of wood is unique, having their own modules of elasticity and Janka hardness. These values affect that piece of woods deflection value under load. When you treat each piece of wood the same in mass production, you shouldn’t be surprised when you get very random results in the finished work. The quality of the product is so-so, good, or better, but you never know. Then there is custom made by one craftsman. If the craftsman is very knowledgeable about design, his craft, variations in materials, they “should” be able to produce more consistent and higher quality. There should more knowledge, more attention and time in the building process, and naturally their time is worth more. Their creations are more valued and cost more. You should get what you pay for. There is a vast difference between the playability and tone of an $800 - $1,500 mass manufactured Chinese guitar, and a custom made $4,000-$20,000 guitar designed and built by a well known luthier. Same for a quality bow made by a designer that that understands the value and potential of the materials on hand, and what to do with them. BYW, Simon’s choice of Macassar Ebony is a good wood choice for its Janka stiffness rating, for where Simon chose to use see it. Very dense, rigid, stable, and tight wood grain.
Man, I love how quiet this bow is! A speed demon too! Fun review! Definitely Grandma and Auntie approved!😆 Thanks again Armin, for sharing another wonderful review with all of us!
How can it be so quiet? The width change of limb is also impressive. difference between the part for Torque resistance and the part for performance. In the slow motion video, the vertical balance of the bow immediately after launch appears very stable. nice designed wooben layer, and nice draw curve! asiantic achery's drawcurve database is very valuable and useful.
Hallo Armin, habe mir nach dem Video den Raptor mit 35# bei simon gekauft. Einfach nur toll. Kein Handschock, super smooth. Lässt sich mediterran auch gut schießen. Habe mich gestern für den 14.04. In Bördeland angemeldet, da bring ich ihn mit. Lg Ingo
Thanks to my beloved wife, I have recently become the proud owner of a Raptor RX - a fantastic bow! Now I just have to learn the thumb technique 😁. @ Armin: soweit ich weiß, bietest du hie und da Kurse zur Daumentechnik in NÖ/Wien an - würde mich sehr freuen, wenn sich mal wieder die Gelegenheit ergeben würde und ich dabei sein könnte!
I agree, there's only one bad thing about this bow: Wating times! 🙂Sadly I was not patient enough to master thumb draw, but it's also cool with mediterrane styles. I do not agree on the premium price, if you compare it with premium compounds, this hand made bow would be too cheep.
Hi Armin, again a dream bow...thank's. Do you believe there's so much difference in shooting experience between the Sunburst, the Black and the RX Raptors? Or RX is it really worth the price compared with the others?
Gibt es sowas wie Reiterbogen Mittelstück und wurfarme mit ilf System würde echt gerne mit sowas trainieren , Leider löst sich die Sehne und das Mittelstück von meinem schon auf 😅
@@ArminHirmer - I can imagine that it's extremely difficult. I have that problem with my collection of swords, but there's one I would carry with me if I had to. Fast and light enough in attack and defense, but not to light that you couldn't use it against something heavy coming down your way. So, let's ask the question a bit differently, which one of those bows would you take with you if you had to choose one to take with you for your survival, for defense and hunting?
@@hellequingentlemanbastard9497 I would still take 2, a short one like the Turkish or mini Xerxes by Nawalny as example and the take down longbow I reviewed a while ago from Alibow :)
@@ArminHirmer- I take it that these shoot the same "type" of arrows, which would make sense, since you can only carry so many with you. So yes, two doesn't seem to be such a burden to carry, not when they weigh almost nothing. Thanks.
After watching your videos for a long time. And practicing thumb draw with a korean horsebow in my backyard. I finally had enough convidance to shoot a 3D parcours.
What a joy it was to do. 🥳
Thank you for sharing your knowledge in Asiatic archery and teaching us newcomers.
I don't think I've ever seen Armin do a speed test on a bow that was this fast. I realize the draw weight has a lot to do with speed but this is in the same range as his other test bows and this was like WOW!!!!!
the weight of the arrows has impact, I shot 8gpp arrows
The Nawalny Mongolian had crazy speeds. Thats what I got my eyes on for my next bow, and 34" draw! But I am very interested in this RX too, my bank account hates Armin 😄
Seemed like a normal speed nothing crazy 200 with. 8gpp, 210 with 7gpp
Helping to influence the algorithm! Enjoy your amazing Raptor, Armin. 🙂🙇🏻♂️👍🏹
I couldn't sleep and with the subscribers notification I was able to watch this video. and wow what an elegant bow. Now I can go to bed and sleep a little more. enjoy the weekend. 😊
I applaud Simon, and any other bowyer taking advantage of “Bias Weave”, sometimes called radial weave fibers in their bow construction.
Most weaving we see everywhere in most fabrics is “Warp and Woof” weaving. Alternating one thread vertically, then one horizontally, or one straight ahead and the next at 90 degrees. This due to the efficiency of a weaving loom set up. Due to the weaving process, it is most economical to use the fabric in this orientation.
Now think about how most bowyers apply their fiberglass and/or carbon fiber. Warp and Woof. One thread in the direction of the limb, and the other at 90 degrees. Basically one thread oriented to resist the longitudinal bend of the limb when drawn, and the 90 degree thread’s laterally resisting the twisting or applying some torsional rigidity.
Now imaging the Warp and Woof fabric rotated 45 degrees. This is called a “Bias Weave”, or sometimes a Radial Weave. The first thing a Bias Weave will do is conform to “compound” or curved surfaces well. A traditional Warp and Woof weave will not.
The other thing the Bias Weave will do is present two woven threads evenly at a 45 degree angle to both the longitudinal (bending) and lateral directions (torsion/twist) more evenly.
Using the Bias Weave is a more costly use of the fabric, but it works more effectively in most situations dealing with force and loads.
A review I was very much looking forward to. Simon provides great craftsmanship. Thank you for this Armin, and introducing us to the Draw Curve database. Very helpful.
As a luthier, I think of bows much like guitars. The market is full of mass manufactured guitars and bows, and every one is made exactly the same like furniture. Of course the price is lower. No concern as to the individual characteristics of the natural materials. Every individual piece of wood is unique, having their own modules of elasticity and Janka hardness. These values affect that piece of woods deflection value under load. When you treat each piece of wood the same in mass production, you shouldn’t be surprised when you get very random results in the finished work. The quality of the product is so-so, good, or better, but you never know.
Then there is custom made by one craftsman. If the craftsman is very knowledgeable about design, his craft, variations in materials, they “should” be able to produce more consistent and higher quality. There should more knowledge, more attention and time in the building process, and naturally their time is worth more. Their creations are more valued and cost more. You should get what you pay for. There is a vast difference between the playability and tone of an $800 - $1,500 mass manufactured Chinese guitar, and a custom made $4,000-$20,000 guitar designed and built by a well known luthier.
Same for a quality bow made by a designer that that understands the value and potential of the materials on hand, and what to do with them. BYW, Simon’s choice of Macassar Ebony is a good wood choice for its Janka stiffness rating, for where Simon chose to use see it. Very dense, rigid, stable, and tight wood grain.
Man, I love how quiet this bow is! A speed demon too! Fun review! Definitely Grandma and Auntie approved!😆
Thanks again Armin, for sharing another wonderful review with all of us!
Watching your videos I’ve got back on trail with my childhood hobby…
Thx for the review as well, quality as always…
So happy, i order one today. Ty Armin you for introducing me to Simon's bow and ty Simon for all😘😘
This bow is my dream, ty Armin for this video and ty Simon for my futur bow i hope soon 😍😍
Thanks!
Even before you mentioned it I thought it sounded amazing quiet. Can't buy premium but can dream.
That is a very quiet bow and really nice design. Hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas
How can it be so quiet?
The width change of limb is also impressive. difference between the part for Torque resistance and the part for performance.
In the slow motion video, the vertical balance of the bow immediately after launch appears very stable.
nice designed wooben layer, and nice draw curve!
asiantic achery's drawcurve database is very valuable and useful.
Armin, you had your Blind Nocking Mojo on today.
Smooth is fast.
Way to go Armin!
Hallo Armin, habe mir nach dem Video den Raptor mit 35# bei simon gekauft. Einfach nur toll.
Kein Handschock, super smooth. Lässt sich mediterran auch gut schießen.
Habe mich gestern für den 14.04. In Bördeland angemeldet, da bring ich ihn mit.
Lg Ingo
super, viel Spass und bis bald
You said it, Armin, a masterpiece!
thank you
Beauty
Thanks to my beloved wife, I have recently become the proud owner of a Raptor RX - a fantastic bow! Now I just have to learn the thumb technique 😁. @ Armin: soweit ich weiß, bietest du hie und da Kurse zur Daumentechnik in NÖ/Wien an - würde mich sehr freuen, wenn sich mal wieder die Gelegenheit ergeben würde und ich dabei sein könnte!
immer mal wieder bei Bogensport Austria, einfach auf meiner Webseite oder bei Bogensport Austria checken
Hey Armin, can you show us your bow collection and how you store them?
one day, for now its a mess as I have no space at all :)
Nice video and nice bow as always. ...But as I just commented the last time as well: I really-really miss the ratings at the end...
Pretty and fast!
👌 The bow is definitely beautiful to look at!
And I went to look for the price! 😮😢
I agree, there's only one bad thing about this bow: Wating times! 🙂Sadly I was not patient enough to master thumb draw, but it's also cool with mediterrane styles. I do not agree on the premium price, if you compare it with premium compounds, this hand made bow would be too cheep.
Thanks a lot! Waiting time is down significantly. And I have bows in stock now as well.
Hi Armin, again a dream bow...thank's. Do you believe there's so much difference in shooting experience between the Sunburst, the Black and the RX Raptors? Or RX is it really worth the price compared with the others?
every Raptor is awesome, the RX is just a bit better :) but with each of them you will be happy
Simon makes outstanding bows , i would love to have one but the price is way too high for me
The only thing I don't like about that bow is the cost...
a real beauty with everything you want in a bow.
Precisely what I think! 👊😁
Thank you for these videos armin! I have the sunburst raptor, would you think it's worth the upgrade to get the RX?
no only if you have the budget
He should make lang draw version. Draw length up to 35 inch. Because this bow is not for people with lang arms :P
Beautiful bow! How does humidity affect the performance?
the humidity here in Austria no, for other climates I cant tell. But the bow seems very durable built for that
How does this bow compare to other fiberglass bows, for example Noekhoer from Alibow?
its a laminated bow, not only fiberglass. more premium, faster, more silent, more stable I guess
what price?
€ 890
Beautiful bow, not gonna say i wish had one, instead some day i WILL have one. Thank you Armin 🫸🤛
In your opinion, is it 300$ better than the Raider? The syiah angles are better on the Paragon one. This one looks better.
not better, but different. soon I will get a Raider for my patrons, maybe I do a comparison ;)
Hey Armin I love your videos and you influenced me to buy my first Turkish recurve, what do you think about what’s happening in Palestine right now,
what do you mean with right now, it happens since decades. But I dont go here into politics
Gibt es sowas wie Reiterbogen Mittelstück und wurfarme mit ilf System würde echt gerne mit sowas trainieren , Leider löst sich die Sehne und das Mittelstück von meinem schon auf 😅
ja, ich hatte mal einen Prototyp aus China
What did he do to your old one?
Just curious might help not make same mistake
I guess he overdrew it a few times
Oh ok thx
Btw all grozer made strings have a dark spot to mark the top loop
Which one of all those bows is your personal favourite?
too many :)
@@ArminHirmer - I can imagine that it's extremely difficult. I have that problem with my collection of swords, but there's one I would carry with me if I had to. Fast and light enough in attack and defense, but not to light that you couldn't use it against something heavy coming down your way.
So, let's ask the question a bit differently, which one of those bows would you take with you if you had to choose one to take with you for your survival, for defense and hunting?
@@hellequingentlemanbastard9497 I would still take 2, a short one like the Turkish or mini Xerxes by Nawalny as example and the take down longbow I reviewed a while ago from Alibow :)
@@ArminHirmer- I take it that these shoot the same "type" of arrows, which would make sense, since you can only carry so many with you.
So yes, two doesn't seem to be such a burden to carry, not when they weigh almost nothing.
Thanks.
unclear. Is it glass laminate, natural horn or carbon?
laminate, a glimpse at the website will show
Way you are not using a thumring
He's wearing a leather thumb guard
Cm. plz. 😅