If the pay lift are enough to paid your bills. Why overload then? But we truckers indonesian in the opposite. Carrying more than 15tons wet sand in light truck :( Here if you want to watch. ruclips.net/video/qz7UMhcAVK4/видео.html
@@criztaliz3413 In your country you can shit on the rules because there is no one who will hand demand that they be complied with, therefore it is that you are a developing country forever.
I watched a real veteran truck driver roll one of those rigs over in Cheyenne, WY in 1993... dumping snow! Sad, sad day, the truck had 19 hours on it, the trailer was brand new and the driver retired right after. Beautiful blue W900 right here.
My son has 20 years experience with these frameless dumps. He has never tipped one but on a few rare occasions he has refused to dump in certain spots because they would have been a risk. He is also aware of this danger with loads frozen in the bed and is mindful of that as well.
@ you are absolutely correct and a good driver is smart enough to recognize potential problems. I know my son on occasion has refused to haul a load or dump one unless he could do it in a safer way. Didnt happen often but did happen. Some drivers buckle to the pressure and thats when accidents happen.
@ thanks my son has been doing it alot of years now. He is currently driving with Penske trucking out of a depot here in WV. His main loads have been aluminum coils and plate out of Kaiser as his company has a contract with them. But for years he worked for R&J Trucking and a independent operator Chris Drayer those were all mostly all frameless buckets.
People in the comment section acting like they designed the truck and are experts when not one of them has been in a 2018 model dump, just like any tool it has it’s pros and cons. Great truck & dump system though, good shot of the truck while it’s still nice and shiny new
@ Yes, you got to be careful and evaluate your surroundings.For frameless I see four rear axle wheels teader tottering and during a dump, and only a third of the tires, contacting the ground vs eight or more wheels on the ground during dumping.Its a big difference .
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William Brewer Funny thing is My Buddies Dad I Mentioned that always Griped about those damn Frameless(and how he would never own one) being unstable Rolled his 35' Ravens Frame Type Tri-Axle, and 1/4 Down the Road(their Farms are less than 1/4 apart) his Brothers Driver Rolled his 39' Mac Frameless Half Round like this one, Same Wrecker Company/Operator Came Out and Did Both Jobs in One Trip. The Frame Type Tri-Axle was on Better Ground than the Frameless was.
WHAT?? NO BODY HAS AN APPRECIATION FOR A SHINY 2 DOOR COUPE AND THE BIG BOY DUMP WAGGON, THOSE ARE BUILT FOR US BIG HIGHWAY LONG HAUL PROS , GLAD TO SEE A LOCAL PRO GETTING HIS ROCKS OFF ON THE WEEKEND. GOOD JOB CHRIS SHOW MORE KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
4 года назад
Randy Whelan I can believe how many People that Commented on how bad this setup is are uneducated on it. This setup meets Federal Bridge Law Formula/System Nationwide and isn’t Limited to a Few Local States that May Recognize it. It Can also Be Cheaper than a 5,6, or 7 Axle Setup If Done Right. It Is also more Versatile than a Dump Truck as it can Hook & Unhook to Different Trailers un Like a Dump Truck which is Limited to one Application and for Only Part of the Year.
I knew a dirt contractor in South Ms that ran a lot of short frameless Palmer dump trailers. They used a single point suspension. They dumped pretty fast and were good off-road.
I wished all the dump sites I've dumped at were this level. I've had to dump in high winds, on sand, and soft spongy soil. They will tip, I never laid mine down, several close calls though. I pulled a box, not a barrel like the one in this video. The company I pulled for had a couple barrel beds. They're lighter weight and allows you to haul more material. Most of the time your paid by the weight, so you want a light weight trailer. My trailer had a 10' spread axle, which allowed us to scale more.
Thats a lot of weight on one axle when it tips. It looks nice and shiny new, but i wouldn't want to be next to it on a 5 degree grade or strong wind. To my mind it's a whole lot of problems waiting for an opportunity to show you.
This guy wouldn't dump on a 5 degree grade or in a strong wind.. To run a truck like that obviously you can't be just anyone that drives a truck you have to know what you're doing..
@@alastor5275 Well that would be the problem with it then wouldn't it? Whats the point of having a trailer that you may not be able to use when you get to a site. What if there was a soft spot under just one of those rear wheels, the whole thing would tip right over.
@@General_Confusion that's what I'm saying he probably picks and chooses his jobs and is more than willing to show of his shiny truck on nice level solid packed ground for the video!!!
I'm guessing by the lack of any type of narration that this truck has rendered you completely and utterly speechless !!!!! Haha. That is a sexy rig !!!
We run East Genesis frame dumps. Great trailers, but last week the sun reflected off the front of a trailer and melted the dash of the day cab tractor.
Man that is one nice setup also i would put a stainless steel double hinge for those mud flaps so they well never break or crack from all the lifting i have always done custom mud flaps with back up led lights in them they last and last. Great video SIR !
Ive been called out around 40 times to take care of lay overs.. flat ground and don't drive away while the bed is coming down.. almost every time the cylinder is destroyed.. at least he's being careful..
By the time he gets the trailer all the way up your quad would have dumped and be back on the road going for another load. Probably doesnt haul much more then quad.
@@holmes1956O the end dump semi i have shall handle at least 10% side slope. my mates that have the same trailers have sat in asphalt pavers in about 13%. carnehl trailers with sliding axles. but our rigs are heavy. over 20 metric tonns empty.
J Rand anybody with experience knows that you get up and empty as quickly as possible. The less time screwing around with it up in the air the better. Most newbies are slow thinking that it is safer going slow that is when the shit hits the fan and the truck takes a nap
Better call and alert the FAA when that thing dumps, a plane might fly into it ! But seriously, is there a benefit to this thing ? Load looks very small ? Thumbs up !
From what I can find it seems these types of frameless dump trailers are great for specific jobs with big loads on stable surfaces. Everyone here is saying they're unstable but the fact is any dump trailer can flip easy enough if you aren't on top of things. It doesn't take a genius to realize that that style of dump trailer doesn't replace smaller & more stable trucks. It's definitely not something you want to let a new guy run, that's for sure!
@@erikthered4929 But it will be used for the wrong purposes anyway because it's there and not being used elsewhere for it's intended purpose. You gotta allow for stupidity because it's gonna happen.
ErikTheRed any time you put an end dump up in the air you are at risk of tipping over. I have 40 yrs in the business and have only had one go over. The pin on the bottom of the scope broke and she was on her side in seconds
In Virginia, don't know about NC, that trailer will haul 24.5 tons, compared to 18 - 20 tons for the quad. That's 20 percent per load, save a trip every 5 loads. Don't need to remove the tarp while dumping, the load is far below the top.
I see a lot of comments about these end dumps tipping over a lot. It's true they do but if you know what you are doing you won't have any problems with tipping. Been doing it for years and my father-in-law many more years neither one of us have laid a trailer over yet (knocking on wood lol)
I'll take bottom dumps every time. They keep moving while dumping hence twice as many loads as an end dump trailer. In situations where there isn't room dumps are fine. But it was a nice ride.
Brian Gardiner I get where you’re coming from but it’s so common for the drivers to not put in the pin and have the thing dump 30 tons of dirt on a highway. We don’t hire anything but tri-axles anymore because of it, just not worth the headache.
Brian Gardiner I misspoke, sorry, I meant the safety chains to keep the gate shut. Haven’t seen the things in a long time. Malfunctions in the gate and operator error caused enough of our brokered trucks to accidentally dump that we stopped running them. We don’t run our own trucks so we just stopped hiring them since the mess was still attributable to our jobs. With good drivers I can see them being great but good truck drivers are in short supply in my area.
That is aNice Looking Ride, I new this Guy who had a 1976 model with a 30/36 frame dump Triaxle , 425 Cat,5X4 all Prettyed up Paid for !! and Whamo Whamo had to give it up !!!
Didn't look like much of a pile for such a big long trailer! I guess they are long for the bridge law. That's some nice looking rigs. Big jobsite. Keep diggin😎
Damn that thing is brighter than my future
looks like a small load for all that chrome
Aluminum
I put 50 tons in my bucket 😆
Beautiful truck but my gosh that’s like watching moss grow watching him dump that load. 😂 great video either way!
Which load?
Always amazes me how small the pile of stone is compared to the size of the truck
Good for stock piling on level ground,dry material,and no cross wind.Has to have solid level gound.
These kind of frameles dump trailers don't tip over, thats why it goes so slowly, nice project Chris 👌👍
if you're level that is
That thing is pretty. You take care of how you load and where you dump then you can keep the shiny side up. Beautiful ride.
Seems like a waste for such a small load 🤔🤔
If the pay lift are enough to paid your bills. Why overload then?
But we truckers indonesian in the opposite. Carrying more than 15tons wet sand in light truck :(
Here if you want to watch.
ruclips.net/video/qz7UMhcAVK4/видео.html
Its honestly the amount of axels you have that dictates the tonnage you can haul.
Don’t confuse weight of load with size of pile.
That's what she said!!!
@@criztaliz3413 In your country you can shit on the rules because there is no one who will hand demand that they be complied with, therefore it is that you are a developing country forever.
I watched a real veteran truck driver roll one of those rigs over in Cheyenne, WY in 1993... dumping snow! Sad, sad day, the truck had 19 hours on it, the trailer was brand new and the driver retired right after. Beautiful blue W900 right here.
Side dump all day long. You get that thing on the wrong angle and you're toast!
Until you have to deliver to a place you can't dump from the side.
My son has 20 years experience with these frameless dumps. He has never tipped one but on a few rare occasions he has refused to dump in certain spots because they would have been a risk. He is also aware of this danger with loads frozen in the bed and is mindful of that as well.
@ you are absolutely correct and a good driver is smart enough to recognize potential problems. I know my son on occasion has refused to haul a load or dump one unless he could do it in a safer way. Didnt happen often but did happen. Some drivers buckle to the pressure and thats when accidents happen.
@ thanks my son has been doing it alot of years now. He is currently driving with Penske trucking out of a depot here in WV. His main loads have been aluminum coils and plate out of Kaiser as his company has a contract with them. But for years he worked for R&J Trucking and a independent operator Chris Drayer those were all mostly all frameless buckets.
People in the comment section acting like they designed the truck and are experts when not one of them has been in a 2018 model dump, just like any tool it has it’s pros and cons. Great truck & dump system though, good shot of the truck while it’s still nice and shiny new
It's nice but I have watched those tip over to many times.
@thecouchtripper you will believe him.
I've come close a couple of times hauling demo scrap
@thecouchtripper I have done mass excavating for the past 28yrs. Try tipping a load in really spongy soil or just uneven ground.
James, I worked for a company that ran them biggest problem was tipping over.
But not this times 😂😂😂
Too Sketchey for me, I would buy a framed dump. One trailer tire sinks and game over.
Way too many youtube fails of these things haha
@ Yes, you got to be careful and evaluate your surroundings.For frameless I see four rear axle wheels teader tottering and during a dump, and only a third of the tires, contacting the ground vs eight or more wheels on the ground during dumping.Its a big difference .
William Brewer Funny thing is My Buddies Dad I Mentioned that always Griped about those damn Frameless(and how he would never own one) being unstable Rolled his 35' Ravens Frame Type Tri-Axle, and 1/4 Down the Road(their Farms are less than 1/4 apart) his Brothers Driver Rolled his 39' Mac Frameless Half Round like this one, Same Wrecker Company/Operator Came Out and Did Both Jobs in One Trip. The Frame Type Tri-Axle was on Better Ground than the Frameless was.
@ Wow, now that's a bad day. Be safe out there.
You would lose money. Frame is weight when paid by the ton.
Nice looking Dog, I want the Scraping Contract for the shiny Trailer when it fails.
Sharp looking setup!!! Love the shine and the long hood!!!!👍😎
Careful them things like to lay down and take naps on their sides a lot....
Lolz!
Thankyou Chris for the upload beautiful truck and trailer and the drone shots were awesome
WHAT?? NO BODY HAS AN APPRECIATION FOR A SHINY 2 DOOR COUPE AND THE BIG BOY DUMP WAGGON, THOSE ARE BUILT FOR US BIG HIGHWAY LONG HAUL PROS , GLAD TO SEE A LOCAL PRO GETTING HIS ROCKS OFF ON THE WEEKEND.
GOOD JOB CHRIS SHOW MORE KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
Randy Whelan I can believe how many People that Commented on how bad this setup is are uneducated on it. This setup meets Federal Bridge Law Formula/System Nationwide and isn’t Limited to a Few Local States that May Recognize it. It Can also Be Cheaper than a 5,6, or 7 Axle Setup If Done Right. It Is also more Versatile than a Dump Truck as it can Hook & Unhook to Different Trailers un Like a Dump Truck which is Limited to one Application and for Only Part of the Year.
What a good looking truck and trailer !! Some money and time spent on that ride .
Bling to the max. And that was cool watching the truck ease forward as the trailer lowered.
Nice set up but I swear when it dumps the product the amount looks like it could fit in y'all's dump truck!!!
I'm sure he was grossing 80,000.
Cause of there stupid laws. We gross out @ 106,000 on that truck
I knew a dirt contractor in South Ms that ran a lot of short frameless Palmer dump trailers. They used a single point suspension. They dumped pretty fast and were good off-road.
I wished all the dump sites I've dumped at were this level. I've had to dump in high winds, on sand, and soft spongy soil. They will tip, I never laid mine down, several close calls though. I pulled a box, not a barrel like the one in this video. The company I pulled for had a couple barrel beds. They're lighter weight and allows you to haul more material. Most of the time your paid by the weight, so you want a light weight trailer. My trailer had a 10' spread axle, which allowed us to scale more.
Very nice unit I did frameless dump for a couple of years in Connecticut
Thats a lot of weight on one axle when it tips. It looks nice and shiny new, but i wouldn't want to be next to it on a 5 degree grade or strong wind.
To my mind it's a whole lot of problems waiting for an opportunity to show you.
This guy wouldn't dump on a 5 degree grade or in a strong wind.. To run a truck like that obviously you can't be just anyone that drives a truck you have to know what you're doing..
Hundreds of thousands are dumped almost daily .
@@alastor5275 Well that would be the problem with it then wouldn't it? Whats the point of having a trailer that you may not be able to use when you get to a site. What if there was a soft spot under just one of those rear wheels, the whole thing would tip right over.
....and very good knowledge in physics. an average driver is overstrained.
@@General_Confusion that's what I'm saying he probably picks and chooses his jobs and is more than willing to show of his shiny truck on nice level solid packed ground for the video!!!
It’s a portable lightning rod!
Wow, that’s tall!
I'm guessing by the lack of any type of narration that this truck has rendered you completely and utterly speechless !!!!! Haha. That is a sexy rig !!!
Oh, how precious. Perfectly flat ground and he still has to baby the thing.
We run East Genesis frame dumps. Great trailers, but last week the sun reflected off the front of a trailer and melted the dash of the day cab tractor.
@ Agreed
Beautiful day cab combo!
I love those frameless dumps, find the on there sides before they get too old.
Holy shit! I can hardly conceive of a more dangerous, unstable way to dump material, how the hell did these ever get passed for for use?!
My son has 20 years experience with these frameless trailers.
Ken - what’s the point? I can see this being useful for lower density stuff but it doesn’t seem like this is worth the hassle
They are lighter than frame type dumps . Come up with a better idea and you too can be a millionaire .
I used to haul scrap steel in these steel box not aluminum. They are more stable than a frame trailer
Good looking setup. Thanks for sharing
Man that is one nice setup also i would put a stainless steel double hinge for those mud flaps so they well never break or crack from all the lifting i have always done custom mud flaps with back up led lights in them they last and last. Great video SIR !
Where is my sunglasses nice set up enjoyed watching
Nice truck and trailer but, the blue Pete was much nicer looking and faster unloading.
Never seen a Pete there
Higher the engine rpm the fast it will go. Some are speced for speed and other weight
Best drone footage so far!!
Great video love the drone shots
Beautiful drone shots... thanks...
Ive been called out around 40 times to take care of lay overs.. flat ground and don't drive away while the bed is coming down.. almost every time the cylinder is destroyed.. at least he's being careful..
Why? So unstable and such a small load?!
Also so... slow
Pretty truck just don't want to hurt it.
Higher rpm the pto gets it up faster. Dirt is heavy. You need space for certain materials.
thats def a sweet set up, nice Mac half round trailer
That's not a dump truck, it's a work of art!!
That is a neat piece of equipment. The cylinder looks to be the kingpin.
By the time he gets the trailer all the way up your quad would have dumped and be back on the road going for another load. Probably doesnt haul much more then quad.
Gale Schmidt quads are at like 18 tons, with those your looking at like 24-26
We have quads in PA that can legally haul 30 ton. Typical tri axle here is 23 ton.
Crazy. Our ten wheeler 23 plus. Our triaxles. 25/26. And trailer dump. 35 ton
Gross on ten and triaxles 77,000. Our dump trailers 106,000
Todd Reynolds those numbers make me Jealous in Illinois a trailer dump can only haul 23 ton Legally
Nice dump truck !
useless on uneven ground
Nick Dixon they all are
@@holmes1956O the end dump semi i have shall handle at least 10% side slope. my mates that have the same trailers have sat in asphalt pavers in about 13%. carnehl trailers with sliding axles. but our rigs are heavy. over 20 metric tonns empty.
I don’t on uneven ground every day
awesome truck and trailer setup right there. i love those type of trucks cuz they look awesome. you sould have asked the driver for some jakes sounds
the building pad and parking lot for the storage units are looking good
I'm gonna say this guy really picks and chooses what and when this truck runs.
I've made a good living rebuilding those cylinders and others . I kinda miss taking them off and servicing
That's one fine ride
Beautiful tractor and trailer
Slow, slow, slow. Give me a quad axle and a pup trailer.
Agreed!
He is obviously new. Didnt take his tarp off and didnt hook his mud flaps up. These trailers dump faster than that its the driver thats slow
@@holmes1956O Maybe he owns the truck and are very careful about it? It looks fairly new..
J Rand anybody with experience knows that you get up and empty as quickly as possible. The less time screwing around with it up in the air the better. Most newbies are slow thinking that it is safer going slow that is when the shit hits the fan and the truck takes a nap
@@holmes1956O night night ZZZZZZZ lol
Great drone footage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beautiful rig but it doesn’t look like it holds much more than a big dump truck.
I popped an entire batch of popcorn while that thing worked on a single dump
Adam Hand are you gonna share or eat it all yourself?
I grew the corn u ate while he dumped. We call them a shiny feather hauler
Better call and alert the FAA when that thing dumps, a plane might fly into it !
But seriously, is there a benefit to this thing ? Load looks very small ?
Thumbs up !
From what I can find it seems these types of frameless dump trailers are great for specific jobs with big loads on stable surfaces. Everyone here is saying they're unstable but the fact is any dump trailer can flip easy enough if you aren't on top of things. It doesn't take a genius to realize that that style of dump trailer doesn't replace smaller & more stable trucks.
It's definitely not something you want to let a new guy run, that's for sure!
@@erikthered4929, Agree !
@@erikthered4929 But it will be used for the wrong purposes anyway because it's there and not being used elsewhere for it's intended purpose. You gotta allow for stupidity because it's gonna happen.
august light weight trailer equalls more pay load plus they are more stable than frame trailers
ErikTheRed any time you put an end dump up in the air you are at risk of tipping over. I have 40 yrs in the business and have only had one go over. The pin on the bottom of the scope broke and she was on her side in seconds
I've never ran or owned one but I have seen allot of them tip over! Looks to pretty to use. Got to be a super lite weight trailer that's for sure.
Fancy, I love that truck
That front bumper though. Whew nice rig
Thanks for sharing this you don’t see many of those trucks around
That thing is brand spanking new!!!
Got keep the wheels turning to pay for it. But great videos on this job your doing 🙏
Called an end dump up in my parts. When they tip over it usually makes one hell of mess out of the trailer 😂
Fella's got some REALLY NICE RIG'S!!! (thumbs up!)
Chris, those trailers are wonderful, ON flat, level, hard ground, but never try and dump them on uneven ground or un-level ground!
Very cool rig! Seems a bit slow though
That is one sweet rig! Those piles are a lot bigger than they look on camera.
Elite Earthworks LLC that’s what she said
manny53o 🤣
Is it just me, or does having all that mass up in the air like that seem super dangerous?
ReadTheShrill
It’s all aluminum. There is no weight to it. That entire trailer weighs maybe 11,000 lbs.
@@caseybhargraves3696 yep. All of the weight is at the back(axles and such)
Only if you don't follow the rules . You just need to think about a lot
@@caseybhargraves3696 9500
That's a lot of Bling !
It's semi normal
That’s cool.... got to get me one. I need the bragging rights! Hopefully, it is available with a bumper hitch so I can pull it with my pickup!!
Five sections of telescoping hydraulics,
Me thinks it’s his First load in it...!!🤔🤭
Great drone footage at the end of this Magnificent Kenworth.
Those are nice , as soon as work get's slow flip it over and get a new unit !
That’s sweet!!
Nice rig!!
In Virginia, don't know about NC, that trailer will haul 24.5 tons, compared to 18 - 20 tons for the quad. That's 20 percent per load, save a trip every 5 loads. Don't need to remove the tarp while dumping, the load is far below the top.
Looks a Bit Sketchy there !! lolol... Great video though Chris...... HAve a Great Evening !!
I see a lot of comments about these end dumps tipping over a lot. It's true they do but if you know what you are doing you won't have any problems with tipping. Been doing it for years and my father-in-law many more years neither one of us have laid a trailer over yet (knocking on wood lol)
Love that truck
Looks pretty.
Crazy. We can put 24 ton on a ten wheeler.
That truck and trailer sweet
Nice truck. The shine was blinding to say the least.
Nice ride!
I'll take bottom dumps every time. They keep moving while dumping hence twice as many loads as an end dump trailer. In situations where there isn't room dumps are fine. But it was a nice ride.
Brian Gardiner I get where you’re coming from but it’s so common for the drivers to not put in the pin and have the thing dump 30 tons of dirt on a highway. We don’t hire anything but tri-axles anymore because of it, just not worth the headache.
@@vaanes What pins are you talking about? I'm in AZ and bottom dumps are very common. The onlt problem is if someone accidentally flips a switch.
Brian Gardiner I misspoke, sorry, I meant the safety chains to keep the gate shut. Haven’t seen the things in a long time. Malfunctions in the gate and operator error caused enough of our brokered trucks to accidentally dump that we stopped running them. We don’t run our own trucks so we just stopped hiring them since the mess was still attributable to our jobs. With good drivers I can see them being great but good truck drivers are in short supply in my area.
@@vaanes where are you located?
Brian Gardiner Western PA
great job buddy and great video as always buddy 😎👊🏻👍🏻
Very nice & beautiful
I love it
That's what we put in our tri-axles up here. Only more stable and faster dumping platform.
that is one sharp trailer
Those end dumps always look acary to me. I like dump and pups!. Todd the retired trucker.
That is aNice Looking Ride, I new this Guy who had a 1976 model with a 30/36 frame dump Triaxle , 425 Cat,5X4 all Prettyed up Paid for !! and Whamo Whamo had to give it up !!!
Pucker factor has to be immense every time he raises the tub
Nice drone footage.
That’s clean
That Kenworth and dump trailer are almost too pretty to use on a construction site.
It's a good thing that site is level!
Didn't look like much of a pile for such a big long trailer! I guess they are long for the bridge law. That's some nice looking rigs. Big jobsite. Keep diggin😎
That’s a beautiful setup but I noticed that doesn’t appear to be a full load and it took a long time to raise up the bed..
Thats my dream Day Cab in a Glider Kit and Cat Engine...
Probably the best looking dump I've seen, but it does seem very very slow.