Pac-Man World 2010 (CANCELLED) - Concept art and Concept videos

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @thenumenfrompacland9491
    @thenumenfrompacland9491  4 года назад +215

    pain

  • @EmSee360
    @EmSee360 3 года назад +287

    This is basically a Rayman Raving Rabbids moment. A sequel to a 3D platforming game on the wii and is later reworked into a party game

    • @EmSee360
      @EmSee360 3 года назад +19

      @DeweyDews Ghostly adventures was a tv tie in. This prototype was a video game first

    • @lightgivemepower6425
      @lightgivemepower6425 3 года назад +2

      @DeweyDews not really

    • @inky_LIKES_eggsyt
      @inky_LIKES_eggsyt 3 года назад +23

      Pac man party was actually in development in the same time as this

    • @user-jl7cz2pe6d
      @user-jl7cz2pe6d 3 года назад +13

      To be fair, unlike Rayman 4, we don't really know what happened to it. Maybe it was retooled into another Pac-Man game. Or maybe it was scrapped altogether? Or heck. Maybe it never even got past the concept stage.

    • @abandonedchannel1010
      @abandonedchannel1010 2 года назад

      @@user-jl7cz2pe6d ahem, did your forget about Rayman origins?

  • @diamondking3785
    @diamondking3785 2 года назад +43

    PAC-MAN: *Stretches his limbs, turns into a beyblade/morph into stuff*
    everyone: "We have so many questions."

    • @phorchybug3286
      @phorchybug3286 7 месяцев назад +3

      That's what we technically got in Ghostly Adventures with those berries.

  • @gamegoggles875
    @gamegoggles875 4 года назад +53

    The squash and stretch used for Pac-Man in these trailers are mesmerizing. Especially the mouth and tongue. Now I know where they got that for GA

  • @parukosleepy
    @parukosleepy 3 года назад +115

    i come back every week or so to mourn the loss of this game

  • @bwmpii_yt
    @bwmpii_yt 3 года назад +56

    I think this is what would later become pacman and the ghostly adventures surprising how it was originally a pacman world game

  • @mightywaranvil2912
    @mightywaranvil2912 3 года назад +29

    Pac-Man is just his memetic Pac-Man 2 self in 3D, aaaaand now I'm very disappointed looking back at this.
    To think: Bamco basing the Pac-Man reboot largely on this concept, and this version of Pac becoming a Smash fighter. Holy crap, this had so much potential.

  • @gamegoggles875
    @gamegoggles875 4 года назад +138

    Back when Namco did things. Freakin Bandai....

    • @SomeCraftive-Art
      @SomeCraftive-Art 3 года назад +32

      Now it’s just anime trailers and dlc (I don’t have a problem with that but still)

    • @abandonedchannel1010
      @abandonedchannel1010 2 года назад +10

      Back when Pac-Man wasn't just a maze game franchise. (Edit: Pac Man world repac is a thing now

    • @christophergaiters4885
      @christophergaiters4885 2 года назад +4

      Brings back 2007 vibes!

    • @ObviousTrollFrom2007
      @ObviousTrollFrom2007 2 года назад +5

      I feel like you all forget that the souls games and Little Nightmares exist too. Plus, they just announced a remake of the first, so it's something.

    • @christophergaiters4885
      @christophergaiters4885 2 года назад

      Wait, I wasn’t born in 2007!

  • @SSKO2
    @SSKO2 4 года назад +102

    This could’ve made for either a world 4 or a Pacman 3D platformer adventure game

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 3 года назад +14

      Seriously, why the hell would they do this to us?!?!?!

    • @SuperMarioFan98
      @SuperMarioFan98 Год назад +3

      In my opinion this is what world 3 should've been, I've wished this game didn't get cancelled.

  • @RainbowStrike20
    @RainbowStrike20 4 года назад +126

    While the designs for Pac-Man and the ghosts could’ve been a lot better (or just stick with their classic looks) this still was a great loss of potential, and would’ve been a whole lot better than just some party game (tho I kinda like Pac man party)

    • @abandonedchannel1010
      @abandonedchannel1010 2 года назад +6

      Well they could've used the classic designs and characters in Ghostly Adventures too.

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 4 года назад +39

    Glad you’re uploading more frequently, now excuse me while I drown in a pool of my tears crying myself to sleep at the missed potential.....

  • @SoshiTheYoshi
    @SoshiTheYoshi 3 года назад +75

    It’s a shame this was only made to be reworked into a party game. At least PM Party was pretty good

    • @TheRetroCollecterWhoEatsCheese
      @TheRetroCollecterWhoEatsCheese 3 года назад +4

      Ghostly Adventures Was In Development When This Game Was Being Developed

    • @dawsons.25
      @dawsons.25 3 года назад +5

      God, idk why but I love pac-man party

    • @Menace_1129
      @Menace_1129 3 года назад +1

      @@dawsons.25 the world is great would make for a good show or.sequel game

    • @SoshiTheYoshi
      @SoshiTheYoshi 3 года назад +1

      @@dawsons.25 Same here

    • @El_Sebas.
      @El_Sebas. 2 года назад

      Ni lo e jugado pero si está bueno

  • @JustSaturn
    @JustSaturn 4 года назад +19

    1:25 This animation is from Pac-Man Party, it’s not from the canceled Pac-Man World game

    • @thenumenfrompacland9491
      @thenumenfrompacland9491  4 года назад +19

      That was apart of the video. As I said in the description, it's likely that this was reworked into Pac-Man Party, hence why some animations were reused

  • @ketchupdragon73x
    @ketchupdragon73x 2 года назад +15

    Keeping the classic designs (as well as making the new characters receive the traditional Pac-Man designs) and making the game as it originally was would make this a fantastic masterpiece for Namco. But hey, maybe this can happen if Pac-Man World Re-Pac has positive reception and both Bandai Namco and Now Production find this video out. If a game based on this happens, I would not only find it as fantastic competition for Cosmic Shake, I would absolutely love it and even get it.

  • @elinogales
    @elinogales 3 года назад +19

    With the Pac-Man World 4 model being so similar to the Ghostly Adventures Pac-Man model, I have the thought that maybe they had always planned to update Pac-Man's design, and so when they believed they could have made something special and have something that would make new fans and fans of old happy, that's when they made Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures.
    They just didn't expect old fans to react to it negatively to it, the og fans saw this as an attempt to replace Pac-Man World which is was not by any intentions or means, just something that was made to make their passionate fans happy to know there's still something new to offer.
    It got to the point where the older fans began to boycott the new attempt to revitalize the franchise in their own hopes it would bring back the original Pac-Man World Series and stop the new one, only one of those two came to fruition.
    I feel like the reason why people boycotted it is because it was majorly different from its origins of the 3D platformer they loved greatly, along it being sudden and unexpected; I'm sure if Namco had made Pac-Man World 4 before Ghostly Adventures, things wouldn't have panned out the way that they did...

  • @cdscissor
    @cdscissor 4 года назад +38

    The potential just wasted right there.

  • @MetaKnuxXbeats
    @MetaKnuxXbeats 3 года назад +35

    I know a lot of people are calling this Pac-Man World 4 but I see it more as a Pac-Man World reboot if anything. I guess we kind of got the game with Ghostly Adventures but not really(?)

  • @DingDarkus
    @DingDarkus 2 года назад +3

    1:32 that’s a clip from a released game called pac man party, I loved it as a kid

    • @bluemike1215
      @bluemike1215 2 года назад +2

      That’s what the cancelled game was turned into

  • @XxxNuggetKingxxX
    @XxxNuggetKingxxX 2 года назад +14

    T-This looks beautiful..Sad it never happened.

  • @tonesdad0408
    @tonesdad0408 4 года назад +2

    Great vid!!! The song playing is one of my faves from Pac Party, I believe...

  • @crashbandicologist
    @crashbandicologist 3 года назад +7

    It reminds a lot of a canceled Crash game called Crash Landed & it was supposed to release in 2010 but got canceled because Radical Entertainment went out of business

  • @Panmint-j5v
    @Panmint-j5v Месяц назад +2

    Isn’t that the spinning berry ability in Pacman and the ghostly aventures? 2:19

  • @japhreal
    @japhreal 4 года назад +11

    Just like everyone been saying
    *a potential has been wasted here*

  • @CasualGameBoi
    @CasualGameBoi 4 года назад +22

    If Ubisoft owned Pac-Man and made a 3d platformer, this would likely be the result.

    • @SomeCraftive-Art
      @SomeCraftive-Art 3 года назад +2

      But there would be the possibility of Ubisoft f**king him all over like they did with Rayman on his 25th birthday.

    • @christophergaiters4885
      @christophergaiters4885 2 года назад +2

      Yea! Thumbnail

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 2 года назад +2

      His eyes looks similar to Ghostly Adventures, but he has the personality similar to Crash Bandicoot.

    • @jasminefrazier8624
      @jasminefrazier8624 2 года назад

      @@poweroffriendship2.0 is a mix of party Pac-Man and pacster

  • @eyealex491
    @eyealex491 2 года назад +2

    2:41 Wow that's a big krab, it was going to be a boss?

  • @absolutezero7373
    @absolutezero7373 2 года назад +4

    Honestly a shame. Coming from a Rayman fan i feel your pain.

  • @MasterCreator1998
    @MasterCreator1998 Год назад +2

    During the development of the Pac-Man party, Debi Debbyberry chose to voice Pac-Man.

  • @tjh6678
    @tjh6678 3 года назад +7

    It sucks to think that Bandai-Namco willingly passed on this creative squash n' stretch romp through lush locales, but then gave Ghostly Adventures, a comparably by-the-numbers take on a pac-former, the go head. (No offense to anyone that enjoyed the 2 GA games, but you gotta admit, this looked wild!)
    We really just can't have nice things, can we?

    • @thenumenfrompacland9491
      @thenumenfrompacland9491  3 года назад +3

      Hopefully someday we might get something in this sane vain as this
      Hopefully

  • @SuperMarioFan98
    @SuperMarioFan98 Год назад +4

    I've wished Pac-man world 3 looked like this, Shame this got cancelled :(

  • @nevets5
    @nevets5 3 года назад +22

    Pac-Man's model is a bit odd, other than that, I love the enemies and environments. Totally see this as a Nintendo Switch seller.

  • @aaronlo9651
    @aaronlo9651 3 года назад +5

    The ghosts look more wholesome compared to how they were in Ghostly Adventures

  • @Netzocot
    @Netzocot 3 года назад +7

    Great video! I really want a world 4, pac-man has the potential to become as big as mario.

    • @Nic_2751
      @Nic_2751 3 года назад +3

      He was, but those days are over.......

    • @Netzocot
      @Netzocot 3 года назад +1

      @@Nic_2751 oof

    • @SomeCraftive-Art
      @SomeCraftive-Art 3 года назад +1

      Very true.

  • @BellHillMayor
    @BellHillMayor 4 года назад +20

    Shame that Pac-Man world 4 was cancelled. :(

    • @DamnZtar
      @DamnZtar 2 года назад +3

      @XDahe_yun16ツ 🅥 at least the first game got remade

    • @El_Sebas.
      @El_Sebas. 2 года назад

      F

    • @SuperMarioFan98
      @SuperMarioFan98 Год назад

      ​@@DamnZtarTrue, I thought the remake was great

  • @carminiadominguez7958
    @carminiadominguez7958 Год назад +5

    THE GOOFY THUMBNAIL THO- 💀💀💀

  • @inkmanstudios4798
    @inkmanstudios4798 3 года назад +7

    WHY WAS THIS CANCELLED?
    This would have bin EPIC

  • @deez2037
    @deez2037 3 года назад +4

    3:35 PS - IS THIS UNUSED MUSIC

    • @thenumenfrompacland9491
      @thenumenfrompacland9491  3 года назад +3

      No
      Its scuba duba from Pac-Man World 2 :)

    • @deez2037
      @deez2037 3 года назад +1

      @@thenumenfrompacland9491 Thanks so much!! It took me a while to figure that one out since I didn’t see this reply until it was far too late lol

  • @CharlieGapperson
    @CharlieGapperson 2 месяца назад

    Pac-Man: stretches his limbs like Ristar
    Me: Ristar? Is that you?

  • @dfox6222
    @dfox6222 3 года назад +5

    Why the hell couldn’t we have this art style for Ghostly Adventures?!

  • @Kay1im3nade
    @Kay1im3nade 3 года назад +2

    I’ve never heard of this upcoming PAC-MAN World game before! They need a reboot or a remark to this Pac-Man game

  • @TheBertBird
    @TheBertBird Год назад +1

    We could see a design of Orson since he’s part of the Pac-Man world trilogy except for the second game

  • @GareBearGamingDood
    @GareBearGamingDood 3 года назад +2

    Crying right now! 😭 I want this so badly!

  • @Goat0423
    @Goat0423 3 года назад +4

    Damn, it’s a shame this didn’t happen, huh. I still fucking DESPISE the Ghostly Adventures designs though, yucky.

  • @pacificgrim4661
    @pacificgrim4661 2 года назад +2

    This is late but apparently there was going to be a Pacman game with Don Bluth working on it with and it was going to have a darker tone to it and for me that would of been fascinating to see a darker tone Pacman adventure, also what are the songs you used for here?

    • @thenumenfrompacland9491
      @thenumenfrompacland9491  2 года назад +2

      Your actually wrong about that. The Don Bluth Pac-Man game is actually something different entirely. It was called "Pac-Man Adventures" and started development in 2004, was scrapped, and had its conscepts reused for Pac-Man World 3
      This game came after World 3 and supposedly started pre production some time around 2008 or 2009, but I'm not so sure.
      Also the songs used in this video are *Greenwood Grove suite* from Pac-Man Party, and *Scuba Duba* from Pac-Man World 2!!

  • @MR.XtheYouTubeboi
    @MR.XtheYouTubeboi Месяц назад

    This feels like such a fever dream

  • @isaacarmendariz2538
    @isaacarmendariz2538 3 года назад +14

    I wonder if this was to be based on pac man party?
    Judging from the designs, not bad, infact i prefer the pac man party designs over the ghostly adventures ones.

    • @jasminefrazier8624
      @jasminefrazier8624 2 года назад +1

      Is maybe a Prototype Rayman

    • @isaacarmendariz2538
      @isaacarmendariz2538 2 года назад +1

      @@jasminefrazier8624 exactly
      I wish they NOT ruined the designs that had such potential

    • @jasminefrazier8624
      @jasminefrazier8624 2 года назад

      @@isaacarmendariz2538 yea is pacster but savage

  • @blockotheblock5672
    @blockotheblock5672 2 года назад +1

    You mean to tell me Pac-Man party was originally gonna be a Pac-Man world title!?!?!? Fuck..

  • @donutdragon2523
    @donutdragon2523 5 месяцев назад

    Was it just me or did the castle look like princess peaches castle for a moment? 1:38

  • @emul8orgamer
    @emul8orgamer 2 года назад +1

    hell nah
    we were originally gonna get Re-Pac in 2010

  • @smileaphelion7189
    @smileaphelion7189 2 года назад +2

    I hate that they ever felt the need to change his design rly shows the littlest of changes can fuck sum up i never got into ghostly adventures specifically cuz that, nvr mind the gameplay and corniness of the show💀💀💀

  • @rainbowspongebob
    @rainbowspongebob 2 года назад

    2:08 pacman when he discovers the hub exist

  • @gamerman9548
    @gamerman9548 3 года назад +3

    How this game was supposed to be the fourth installment in the PacMan World series but was then reworked into a party game is similar to how RayMan Raving Rabbids was also supposed to be the fourth installment in the RayMan series but was also reworked into a party game.

    • @lightgivemepower6425
      @lightgivemepower6425 3 года назад +1

      Nothing indicates that this would be the 4th installment, just a game on it's own.

    • @gamerman9548
      @gamerman9548 3 года назад

      @@lightgivemepower6425 It was probably suposed to be a reboot

  • @esincorporated6123
    @esincorporated6123 2 года назад +1

    Heh. So in other words many of this game's concepts were ported to Pac-Man and The Ghostly Andventures.

  • @the_bun_e3314
    @the_bun_e3314 2 года назад +1

    This looks like Crash bandicoot, Rabids and Pacman had a collab

  • @bomberman1722
    @bomberman1722 2 года назад +3

    My opinion for this is that namco is cool but unfair because why would they cancel this, THIS FREAKING LOOKS AWESOME

    • @SuperMarioFan98
      @SuperMarioFan98 Год назад

      This does look awesome, wished it didn't got cancelled, This is what world 3 should've been in my opinion. If you liked World 3 your opinion is handled.
      I wasn't an fan of world 3 myself.

  • @NCTStudio
    @NCTStudio 2 года назад +3

    Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures 0.5 obviously

  • @harrisonstewart3781
    @harrisonstewart3781 2 года назад +2

    It looks Sonic game formulated.

  • @kyrosonblitz2844
    @kyrosonblitz2844 2 года назад

    What is that track? 1:36

  • @Iam-cz1ot
    @Iam-cz1ot 3 года назад +12

    Tbh I would’ve loved 4 this to come out. While it’s definitely different from the other Pac-Man games. I feel like the new design here and with the absents of ghosts fit with this world and make things so much more wholesome. Not that the normal Pac-Man games are bad and their stories are dark. I just find this more cute and cooler in concept.

  • @springbreezegaming4017
    @springbreezegaming4017 3 года назад +1

    Did this 1:38 become pacman and the ghostly adventures?? That's so cool!!!!!

  • @mushrooman765
    @mushrooman765 3 года назад +11

    Although it does suck that it got cancelled, I'm not particularly a huge fan of this pacman design, it really just doesn't feel like pacman to me.

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 3 года назад +3

      Me too, the Pac-Man World 1-Rally dealing, on the other hand, is so good that might be the reason why it always made the most appearances!

  • @kosakukawajiri8972
    @kosakukawajiri8972 3 года назад +1

    They chucked Pac-Man to the curb for Tekken.
    W H Y B A N D A I ? ! ! !

  • @hatsterhatsmin8539
    @hatsterhatsmin8539 2 года назад +2

    It looks interesting conceptually, but none of this feels “Pac-man” to me, replace the Pac-Man characters (especially Pac-Man, he feels more like a feral animal in the animations more than anything) with unique ones, then it’d probably be a really neat game

  • @levisjammin
    @levisjammin 2 года назад

    What is the song at 3:05 ?

  • @StuD44
    @StuD44 2 года назад +1

    The worst part is that it seems they already had a lot done.

  • @andyanajonseph9399
    @andyanajonseph9399 4 года назад +2

    I'm depressed now hug me.

  • @UFOHAREWARE
    @UFOHAREWARE 6 месяцев назад

    I really like this, sad that it got cancelled though, I feel like this would've been cool if it was playable

  • @rttoons2003
    @rttoons2003 19 дней назад +1

    We almost got a Pac-Man World game in 2010!? fuck, we got robbed!!!

    • @thenumenfrompacland9491
      @thenumenfrompacland9491  19 дней назад

      @rttoons2003 pac-man world was the working title, bit it does share similarities to the trilogy in this form we see it in. And I agree this could've been cool, but some aspect of it appeared to have gone into stuff like Pac-Man Party, and Ghostly Adventures so there's that.
      (But if you ask me, this looks so much cooler than both of those lol)

  • @Rex-co7ze
    @Rex-co7ze 2 года назад +1

    Solo si Megaman Legends 3 tuviera esa suerte.

  • @jasminefrazier8624
    @jasminefrazier8624 2 года назад

    Me and Alison velvets got a canceled game made by our Father Shigeru Miyamoto

  • @coltonmb3328
    @coltonmb3328 5 месяцев назад

    2:45 TAMATOA!!

  • @omarelv-rex619
    @omarelv-rex619 2 года назад

    SONIC SYRNERGY 2012-2013 (SONIC BOOM 2014 - 2017 PROTOTYPE) VS PACMAN WORLD 2010 (PM-ATGA 2013 -2015 PROTOTYPE)

  • @openyourbank9426
    @openyourbank9426 4 года назад +6

    Oh you’ve got to be shittin me right now.........

  • @guillermogazanol1729
    @guillermogazanol1729 3 года назад +2

    Pac-Man is a Savage in the game

  • @CharlieGapperson
    @CharlieGapperson 2 месяца назад

    I think this game was intended for a follow-up of Pac-Man World 3 or maybe just a 3d platformer.

    • @thenumenfrompacland9491
      @thenumenfrompacland9491  2 месяца назад

      @CharlieGapperson im thinking it was initially a reboot. It's possible a lot of this concepts ideas were reworked into Ghostly Adventures

    • @CharlieGapperson
      @CharlieGapperson 2 месяца назад

      @@thenumenfrompacland9491 I'm thinking that maybe Ghostly Adventures would've gotten a bit more love with this design.

  • @inky_LIKES_eggsyt
    @inky_LIKES_eggsyt 3 года назад +1

    The only thing i really dont like about this is that pac mans eyebrows can move more i just really got used to his stiff cat ear like eyebrows

  • @heartstevenson7654
    @heartstevenson7654 3 года назад +1

    I’m sorry, he is just my favorite character 😇💚

  • @DiagonalTanooki
    @DiagonalTanooki 6 месяцев назад +2

    why is he so 𝒻𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓀𝓎

  • @save_zawarudo
    @save_zawarudo 2 года назад +1

    Bruh they basically did a crash landed

  • @3DMarioWorld
    @3DMarioWorld 3 года назад +3

    We were robbed... Q_Q

  • @winningsmilefan4888
    @winningsmilefan4888 2 года назад

    I like this non pixel version of pacman world 2 gba theme

  • @eyealex491
    @eyealex491 2 года назад

    Wow it would probably for wii if it wouldn't be cancelled, even it's great that Pac-Man got a 3d model too similar to Pac-Man party and Pac-Man and the ghostly adventures

  • @miserablepileofsecrets
    @miserablepileofsecrets 2 года назад

    With the first one bein remade, the series couls be remade as well, so it would be cool if this 2010 game gets a second chance in the near future.

  • @TCgamerboy2002
    @TCgamerboy2002 2 года назад

    Honestly, Pac-Man isn't Pac-Man without his Pac-eyes.

  • @AmaniTamimi-hb4jy
    @AmaniTamimi-hb4jy 9 месяцев назад

    Amazing

  • @gilbert64
    @gilbert64 4 года назад +3

    pac man world: transformers edition

  • @cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659
    @cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 2 года назад

    3 Words: "I like it!" 😊👍

  • @kitsunsanjota
    @kitsunsanjota 3 года назад +1

    I like GA, but this one seems to have so much potential and fun moment.
    Pac man must go back to 3d, not stick to 2d.

  • @carlwheezer6473
    @carlwheezer6473 4 года назад +3

    ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? THEY GAVE UP THIS?

  • @fabioarredondovivanco6991
    @fabioarredondovivanco6991 2 года назад +2

    That Pacman is more horrible than Pacster, LOL.

    • @WiiFan-1300
      @WiiFan-1300 Год назад +2

      No he’s not. This one has no teeth.

  • @trentontheman08
    @trentontheman08 2 года назад

    This situation looks familiar it's starts with a word ray (solve this riddle)

  • @joshuataylor7443
    @joshuataylor7443 Год назад

    Who made this concept art?

  • @orangeamongus21
    @orangeamongus21 3 года назад

    what music called

    • @orangeamongus21
      @orangeamongus21 3 года назад

      @Sega Sonic nonono it's Pac-Man Party soundtrack not PMW2

    • @orangeamongus21
      @orangeamongus21 2 года назад

      HEUIBGEIEVDEBVIBNDEBV OLD COMMENT

    • @bluemike1215
      @bluemike1215 2 года назад

      @Stardian what about the one from the start

  • @XxTGLxX
    @XxTGLxX 3 года назад +1

    we were robbed.

  • @Conky.la.ardilla1012
    @Conky.la.ardilla1012 2 года назад

    This look like a crash landed and I am crash bandicoot

  • @Pauloguipin
    @Pauloguipin 2 года назад

    Pacman drip

  • @BlueBerryPieCherry
    @BlueBerryPieCherry 2 года назад

    with the gmail name im not taking it anymore-

  • @raphaelasanchez4419
    @raphaelasanchez4419 2 года назад +2

    Pacman

  • @christophergaiters4885
    @christophergaiters4885 3 года назад

    For the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3

  • @JohnSmithsu2006
    @JohnSmithsu2006 2 года назад

    Looks interesting but the redesigns turn me off.

  • @Lemuel928
    @Lemuel928 2 года назад

    Pac Man World 4D.