Very very much alligned with your notes. Overall, great quality of life and overall improvements. Glad these are base game upfates and not just seasonal ones (though I look forward to hear about those as well of course). And ye, very interesting how they don't just add a loot filter but instead also consider alternative solutions towards improving the "quality vs. quantity" loot experience. So GG to them all that and thanks to you for sharing the good news!
I’m so incredibly stoked for S.4. After experiencing the changes to Necro and more specifically summoner/minions I can safely say(unless it gets a heavy nerf) that I will no doubt be running necro for the majority of S.4. Then all the QoL changes along with the crafting system makes for a very enjoyable time. Will finally be able to take a break from Last Epoch! GLHF all!
@@silentstill It has been absolutely a thing since forever with all these top down RPGs, that the ultimate abilities have a designated slot for them so you have to choose 1 and use that. Yes 6+1 ult slot would be a start but honestly even that is just super low amount, it'd be a barebones basic. Just look at Lost Ark you have 8 ability slots and a designated ult slot.
From what I understood, tempering you cannot reset so your item will brick. Not the same case for tempering. Tempering you can retry to roll as many times but loose the material.
@@silentstill You can only Temper up to the number of Durability attempts. If you consume all of the Durability rerolls, the item bricks and the Tempered Affixes on the item become permanent. If you didn't get the affixes you want, you will have to find a new item to Temper and try again. ONLY in the Masterworking feature can you reset the item. This will only reset the stats of the item back to where they were originally before Masterworking.
D4’s main issue in my opinion is how fast the enjoyment drops off. It’s mid at best from 1-50. After 60 it completely bottoms out. I paid for this so I want to cap a character and be done with it. I’m 88 and I just don’t want to log in and play. It’s just mind-numbingly boring. There are so many great games out I would rather play those. If you love D4 by all means play it, I hope they make changes to further increase your enjoyment.
Oh, for sure. I've been playing Last Epoch quite a bit as of late, and it has some really well-implemented systems. But, there is a lot I like about D4 as well. For me, the boring part was going through items manually filtering for affixes, hence my excitement about that being streamlined!
@@silentstillFunny enough, the reason I like Last Epoch is because of their skill system. It puts the ability to experiment with how abilities look and behave in my hands, rather than hoping RNG favors me and drops a legendary or unique that will do that for me. D4 has none of that, which to me is a step back from even D3's Skill Runes. That level of personal experimentation made leveling enjoyable because I knew getting another level in a skill meant that I was one step closer to making something really cool.
@@lexiconprime7211 Last epoch's skill system is super great. I've always explained that "the d4 skill system feels as though the devs kind had 3 or 4 builds in mind and then balanced everything around that." Last Epoch's approach is to just give players a bunch of tools and.... see what happens.
This isn't goong to fix D4 for me, they game is bad in so many ways im not even going to try and liat them all here. It boils down to the items are not fun so it's not exciting to get good gear and the game play just falls flat. I personally will be sticking to PoE and looking forward to PoE2 because from what has been ahown so far the looks like GGG is going to knock that out of the park.
Last Epoch is really good as well if you are an arpg fan. As far as D4, I also have a list of improvements I'd like to see made, but I'm in the same boat where itemization feels like the biggest problem.
D4 feel's like a beta unfortunately, needs a lot more than itemization. I wouldn't mind to have some immortal endgame, and clan stuff, battlegrounds etc....
The itemization has always been my biggest gripe. Have you played the recent seasons? Target farming feels very satisfying, as there are reasons to do world bosses, helltides, etc.
There's almost too much wrong with this game for it to be fixed. It's boring. Forcing players to engage in constant endless grinding is not a winning strategy. In all 3 seasons now - I end up getting to level 100 I collect a few mundane pieces of gear, but realize I'll never get the last few pieces to make me uber I can solo tier 80, but that's it. So every single season I end up putting the game away for the last month or so of that season hoping the next season will be geared toward making a fun game rather than making Blizz execs rich.
Yeah, I ebb and flow with the seasons as well! I think the itemization is the part I find the most boring, so I remain optimistic. We'll see if they can reclaim much of the player base.
I refuse to support the company anymore no second chances ever just like people. Rather spend 150k on helping shutting down the company than on legendary gems
You mean you defending being a shill and getting truthful comments about it that you can't factually refute, so you are only deflecting ;) But we're sorry that we led a multi billion dollar company to solve standards. I know we shouldn't expect blizzard to be able to measure up to ftp games, even after 4 seasons.... 😂😂😂
@@StMargorach Being a "shill" would require me to be in collaboration with Blizzard in some capacity and I'm truly not. Loot at some of the other content on my channel and its size, and that shouldn't be too tricky to piece together. I'm all for healthy discussion and have been critical of several decisions in these comment and else where.
NOPE. it's too late. especially with their new EULA. blizzard is dead should be ignored into oblivion. also 3.24 is upon us so who needs d4/epoch snooze fest anyway.
I've seen people complaining about the forced arbitration clauses (which likely wouldn't hold up if they ever were taken to court) but do you know what else has changed in the terms when compared to the existing EULA?
When D4 becomes D3 because of DEI hires, No Imagination, No creativity, just revamped D3 content..... End game is running the same bosses over & over at different levels, For what? Nothing....
I mean, in the same vein as almost all progression-based games, the pursuit of 'number go up' is the real endgame loop. If the content is un-engaging, that is a different argument and much more subjective. I like variety as well, and I think a decent job has been done in the past few seasons to motivate different types of gameplay.
@@nicodamusny2142 name another ARPG that copied its predecessor because the developers were too lazy to come up with something new. If I wanted to do a pit ops RIFT then I would play Diablo 3.
Haha, it is a fine line between "use what has worked in other titles" vs "copying systems" - I, for one, would rather see them use what has worked in other games.
@@silentstill I would delete that line and would like to see new ideas from Blizzard, which is certainly not an indie team, and from a game that has made history like Diablo, and not "use what has worked" recycled from Last Epoch and Diablo 3. This patch is yet another joke.
If only the game launched like this. It would have been a very solid foundation for them to expand upon. But I feel this is waaay too late. I have lost all interest in the game and have no plans to ever download it again.
Yeah, it will be an uphill battle to regain any sizable playerbase. I've been revisiting to see how it feels and I'm always impressed by the moment to moment gameplay. But I'm sure there are many that are in your boat.
Lol, no d4 isn't back. With all the improvements, they are still being beat by ftp games. I know I know, I shouldn't hold a multi billion dollar company to free to play standards ;)
To be fair, f2p games are often higher grossing in today's market, so some of them have comparable (or higher) budgets when compared to traditional titles.
@@silentstill nooo there you are mostly wrong. Ftp games have a lower development budget, but higher revenue in the months after ( microtransactions). Which you would guess would make the subsequent development of ftp banned better. But this isn't true either, because they will only invest in more minor things to charge money for ( just take lol as an example and PoE being a major exception) So aaa games should be releasing in a better and more complete state than a ftp game... But here we are....
@@StMargorach I'm not! Go look at the budgets being handed to some of Tencent's studios. The money in ftp is mind blowing. I think its easy to conflate the delineation between triple AAA and ftp. They aren't mutually exclusive any longer.
Hopefully this brings some hype back. If you have any questions, come ask!
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Very very much alligned with your notes. Overall, great quality of life and overall improvements. Glad these are base game upfates and not just seasonal ones (though I look forward to hear about those as well of course). And ye, very interesting how they don't just add a loot filter but instead also consider alternative solutions towards improving the "quality vs. quantity" loot experience. So GG to them all that and thanks to you for sharing the good news!
keep up the good work bro good commentary
I’m so incredibly stoked for S.4. After experiencing the changes to Necro and more specifically summoner/minions I can safely say(unless it gets a heavy nerf) that I will no doubt be running necro for the majority of S.4. Then all the QoL changes along with the crafting system makes for a very enjoyable time. Will finally be able to take a break from Last Epoch! GLHF all!
Yeah, I was planning on sorc but might end up trying necro. I'm eager as well
Implement a seperate ability slot for ultimates, until then they can gtfo.
Interesting! I feel like this hasn't been the trend in a while. Are you looking for 6 slots total, or 5 where one is forced to be an ult?
@@silentstill It has been absolutely a thing since forever with all these top down RPGs, that the ultimate abilities have a designated slot for them so you have to choose 1 and use that. Yes 6+1 ult slot would be a start but honestly even that is just super low amount, it'd be a barebones basic. Just look at Lost Ark you have 8 ability slots and a designated ult slot.
i hope the beta for diablo 4 ends soon and the actual game comes out with actual content to play
From what I understood, tempering you cannot reset so your item will brick. Not the same case for tempering. Tempering you can retry to roll as many times but loose the material.
I believe tempering and masterworking both had a reroll mechanic!
@@silentstill You can only Temper up to the number of Durability attempts. If you consume all of the Durability rerolls, the item bricks and the Tempered Affixes on the item become permanent. If you didn't get the affixes you want, you will have to find a new item to Temper and try again. ONLY in the Masterworking feature can you reset the item. This will only reset the stats of the item back to where they were originally before Masterworking.
@@mpetrie ah, nice. I like this balance a lot!
D4’s main issue in my opinion is how fast the enjoyment drops off. It’s mid at best from 1-50. After 60 it completely bottoms out. I paid for this so I want to cap a character and be done with it. I’m 88 and I just don’t want to log in and play. It’s just mind-numbingly boring. There are so many great games out I would rather play those. If you love D4 by all means play it, I hope they make changes to further increase your enjoyment.
Oh, for sure. I've been playing Last Epoch quite a bit as of late, and it has some really well-implemented systems. But, there is a lot I like about D4 as well. For me, the boring part was going through items manually filtering for affixes, hence my excitement about that being streamlined!
@@silentstillFunny enough, the reason I like Last Epoch is because of their skill system. It puts the ability to experiment with how abilities look and behave in my hands, rather than hoping RNG favors me and drops a legendary or unique that will do that for me. D4 has none of that, which to me is a step back from even D3's Skill Runes. That level of personal experimentation made leveling enjoyable because I knew getting another level in a skill meant that I was one step closer to making something really cool.
@@lexiconprime7211 Last epoch's skill system is super great. I've always explained that "the d4 skill system feels as though the devs kind had 3 or 4 builds in mind and then balanced everything around that." Last Epoch's approach is to just give players a bunch of tools and.... see what happens.
This isn't goong to fix D4 for me, they game is bad in so many ways im not even going to try and liat them all here. It boils down to the items are not fun so it's not exciting to get good gear and the game play just falls flat. I personally will be sticking to PoE and looking forward to PoE2 because from what has been ahown so far the looks like GGG is going to knock that out of the park.
Last Epoch is really good as well if you are an arpg fan. As far as D4, I also have a list of improvements I'd like to see made, but I'm in the same boat where itemization feels like the biggest problem.
D4 feel's like a beta unfortunately, needs a lot more than itemization.
I wouldn't mind to have some immortal endgame, and clan stuff, battlegrounds etc....
The itemization has always been my biggest gripe. Have you played the recent seasons? Target farming feels very satisfying, as there are reasons to do world bosses, helltides, etc.
@@silentstill played since closed beta, and the game still sucks with or without itemization
There's almost too much wrong with this game for it to be fixed.
It's boring.
Forcing players to engage in constant endless grinding is not a winning strategy.
In all 3 seasons now -
I end up getting to level 100
I collect a few mundane pieces of gear, but realize I'll never get the last few pieces to make me uber
I can solo tier 80, but that's it.
So every single season I end up putting the game away for the last month or so of that season hoping the next season will be geared toward making a fun game rather than making Blizz execs rich.
Yeah, I ebb and flow with the seasons as well! I think the itemization is the part I find the most boring, so I remain optimistic. We'll see if they can reclaim much of the player base.
I refuse to support the company anymore no second chances ever just like people. Rather spend 150k on helping shutting down the company than on legendary gems
Do you think the Microsoft acquisition will influence things at all?
How much they payin you for this?
just the price of having to ward off negative youtube comments 😉
@@silentstill
You mean you defending being a shill and getting truthful comments about it that you can't factually refute, so you are only deflecting ;)
But we're sorry that we led a multi billion dollar company to solve standards. I know we shouldn't expect blizzard to be able to measure up to ftp games, even after 4 seasons....
😂😂😂
@@StMargorach Being a "shill" would require me to be in collaboration with Blizzard in some capacity and I'm truly not. Loot at some of the other content on my channel and its size, and that shouldn't be too tricky to piece together.
I'm all for healthy discussion and have been critical of several decisions in these comment and else where.
NOPE. it's too late. especially with their new EULA. blizzard is dead should be ignored into oblivion. also 3.24 is upon us so who needs d4/epoch snooze fest anyway.
I've seen people complaining about the forced arbitration clauses (which likely wouldn't hold up if they ever were taken to court) but do you know what else has changed in the terms when compared to the existing EULA?
When D4 becomes D3 because of DEI hires, No Imagination, No creativity, just revamped D3 content..... End game is running the same bosses over & over at different levels, For what? Nothing....
Name another APRG that has different end game? Even Last Epoch ur running monoliths over and over at different levels.
I mean, in the same vein as almost all progression-based games, the pursuit of 'number go up' is the real endgame loop.
If the content is un-engaging, that is a different argument and much more subjective. I like variety as well, and I think a decent job has been done in the past few seasons to motivate different types of gameplay.
@@nicodamusny2142 name another ARPG that copied its predecessor because the developers were too lazy to come up with something new.
If I wanted to do a pit ops RIFT then I would play Diablo 3.
very impressive this new version of Diablo 3 resurrected.
These are really big and very innovative changes. 🤣
Haha, it is a fine line between "use what has worked in other titles" vs "copying systems" - I, for one, would rather see them use what has worked in other games.
@@silentstill I would delete that line and would like to see new ideas from Blizzard, which is certainly not an indie team, and from a game that has made history like Diablo, and not "use what has worked" recycled from Last Epoch and Diablo 3.
This patch is yet another joke.
If only the game launched like this. It would have been a very solid foundation for them to expand upon. But I feel this is waaay too late. I have lost all interest in the game and have no plans to ever download it again.
Yeah, it will be an uphill battle to regain any sizable playerbase. I've been revisiting to see how it feels and I'm always impressed by the moment to moment gameplay. But I'm sure there are many that are in your boat.
Lol, no d4 isn't back.
With all the improvements, they are still being beat by ftp games.
I know I know, I shouldn't hold a multi billion dollar company to free to play standards ;)
To be fair, f2p games are often higher grossing in today's market, so some of them have comparable (or higher) budgets when compared to traditional titles.
@@silentstill nooo there you are mostly wrong. Ftp games have a lower development budget, but higher revenue in the months after ( microtransactions). Which you would guess would make the subsequent development of ftp banned better. But this isn't true either, because they will only invest in more minor things to charge money for ( just take lol as an example and PoE being a major exception)
So aaa games should be releasing in a better and more complete state than a ftp game...
But here we are....
@@StMargorach I'm not! Go look at the budgets being handed to some of Tencent's studios. The money in ftp is mind blowing.
I think its easy to conflate the delineation between triple AAA and ftp. They aren't mutually exclusive any longer.
D4 bad
d4 bad - old itemization + new itemization = d4 better?
@@silentstill the 4 in D4 stands for the last season I will give them a chance and maybe the next one if the POE2 delay stays factual
looking forward to ur d4 build guide if u r making any
Ah - I don't theory-craft a ton, but maybe I will do some guides on how some of the nuanced mechanics work in d4!