21:30 😅 I got scared there for a second. I have one it was 32 rps at 40k 50% torque. Im 90%, my shim job was spot on and thought it was a bit low compared to my calculations.
While the T238 has less amp draw, it's clearly giving up torque (same RPM setting but lowest RPS) for it. Probably limiting the built in ESC for seemingly better AMP spec or simply can't risk too much current through it's MOSFET.
@@wyshtechairsoft Sounds interesting, I'll check out. I wonder if you bring tht T238 up to same RPS how the AMP draw would change. If you're curious, compare a Neodynium magnet high torque with a stock ferrit motor, at stock spring power the AMP draw of the stock motor is also lower so AMP isn't everything, it's a all related system.
Great video as always! I will be stopping by in the future to purchase an new cylinder/piston and motor and maybe a new gearset for my aeg. This video helped in regards to info plus you're local to me and better than Ben (you know your "favorite" Ben) at airsoft tech.
I think 😂they are awesome lipos I'm running a maxim defense pdx stock and it's got a tiny buffer tube most people use 7.4v but i am running a 11.1v 720mah 3s 100c 200c burst drone battery and I had to take the outer wrap off but fit's perfectly with no fuse and a xt30 and i also have 1 like he is using in the video and that's also pretty good quality
@@wyshtechairsoft it’s pretty awesome, the braking is def superior to the t238s with the unidirectional bearing which also helps with making it more consistent. The amp draw seems to be a bit higher than t238 even when adjusting the “torque” option (I’m convinced it just limits the starting current pulled by the motor). I feel this is in part due to the motor now bearing the load of the main spring constantly rather than having a arl take that pressure off. But overall I feel it’s superior due to its more precise piston positioning, braking, startup, and programability. Currently in my setup with the motor set to max “torque” and 35k the semi response time is 18ms on 18:1 Solink helical dsg gears which was an improvement over the 23ms response time of the t238 33k I had previously. Sub 20ms semi on anything not 14:1 dsg or lower (excluding precocking) is very impressive.
Can you test this motor on a titan ii!?!gate threw a "new" motor that is compatible with the titan ii and can adjust the motor revs via the app!!!so can you check if the original solink gen5 can do this adjustment too!?!?
I want your precious opinion For a build between 350-400 fps T238 28k brushless 16:1 3 teeth off. Or T238 28k brushless 13:1 3 tooth of?!?! 2 from pickup and 1 from release?
Fantastic video, love the rpm tachometer, I've been using the laser version and it's a pita. Just got a budget Solink and T238 in to test. Interested to see what type of bearing they used to achieve the unidirectional function as it's super easy to break these small bearings.
Solink did recommend to keep the torque at 60% In China, the solink v5 is retailing at ~90USD with the programming card, which still consider as overpriced by the local
Veerryyy informative video as always.. I think that unidirectional bearing will be pretty soon brake apart...also i'm guessing that motor's esc will have failures pretty soon as well... Only time will tell I have a 87.500 rounds with t238 33k in 13:1 at 1.2 joule without a single ttzzz....every 20000 i open gearbox just to check everything is ok... And yes specna arms is solink..it's calling as Dark Matter Gen2 Cheers from Greece
Solink makes a VFC compatible brushless motor for the mp7 and,no one has a video about it yet. Could you do a full video showing tappet plate, hopup arm and brushless motor install, along with a video of how to modify the magazine follower to a one piece shorter design. Sort of a one stop shop video to make a VFC MP7 viable as a competitive aeg ?
I want your precious opinion For a build between 350-400 fps T238 28k brushless 16:1 3 teeth off. Or T238 28k brushless 13:1 3 tooth of?!?! 2 from pickup and 1 from release?
Depends what rps you are trying to go for. Either way, 3 teeth will give you better trigger response. Taking off which teeth depends on the gear brand as these days the tappet pin is located in different spota.
Appreciate bro, one more thing. I know you’re such an experienced man. Does it works well with a HIGH FPS riffle? Im using a SP150 spring with 550FPS with a SPLIT GEARBOX. I saw one of your videos upgrade with ICSDDMK18, im like very surpriced on how you able put that jefftron MOSFET in a SPLIT GB. Im using the same riffle. ICSDDMK18. Thanks a lot master! 💪💪
@@enricodelosreyes4246etu fits in split or non split gearbox's bro ,being a split gearbox doesn't change the space for the switch block or etu but you may need to dremil the post where the screw goes to hold down the etu shorter depending on the gearbox but that's easy as and the scylla is a awesome unit
Just have a question, a buddy of mine is running a stock Cyma platinum M4 and the recommended battery. During a game his M4 stops shooting and when we tried to insert a different battery it was beeping like crazy so we inputed the old battery and it worked again but the M4 stops shooting again. So mid game he had to reconnecting the battery over and over again for it to shoot. What may be the cause of that?
Sounds like you got a bad electronic trigger unit. Those factory etu's are notorious for going bad. However this is a great opportunity to upgrade to a fully programmable and more reliable ETU like the Perun V2 Hybrid.
Hey man, so the Solink motors are advertised as being unidirectional, meaning that you can delete the anti-reversal latch. I'm wondering if this makes the gun any quieter, have you tried it?
Afaik brushless motor speed doesn't affect their torque output. Speed is simply controlled by a speed controller while the torque is the same at all speeds. Difference between low and high speed BL motor is the firmware that's loaded onto it not the winding. Torque adjustment is probably a power limiter. Who knows what it actually does... You short stroked on pickup I guess. Did you use a delayer chip? If you did which one? Did you cut it? Please do the review of the blue T238 ASAP! Or give me your opinions here. Would love to get one (or two) but don't know what to expect.
Yes, I did use a delayer. Since JVAN wyshtech edition gearset that I used has the tappet pickup delayed than traditional. I did not have to trim the SHS chip at all. Also! Thank you for your input on the brushless motor torque and speed. I also think the "torque adjustment" is just a power limiter which is still pretty awesome since you can limit the amount of amperage pull so you dont pull more than you actually need depending on your build. The blue cheap t238 brushless motor is the next video im going to make!
@@wyshtechairsoft Full delayer chip with JVAN gears and it's not releasing the piston before the tappet plate gets released? Might have to do some more testing with mine... I have concluded that JVAN gears can't be short stroked on release pretty much at all due to early tappet release but I might be wrong. Would be doable if I'd cut the tappet fin but I want as reliable feeding as possible. Currently at 32RPS with T238 and 13:1 JVAN short stroked on pickup by 2 at around 1.4-1.45J. Have you tested the blue T238? I have two builds that might get one of those if it's even close as good as silver T238. One would be 4 tooth short stroked 13:1 (cyma plat gears) Cyma P90 and the other one DSG (JVAN gears and bushings) Krink. Can't decide which RPM to go for... Want above 25RPS and under 30RPS on P90 (mag selection is pretty bad) and a bit over 40 on the krink. Power I'm aiming for is around 1.3-1.56J. btw I know that Krytac P90 mags exist...no thanks.
21:30 😅 I got scared there for a second. I have one it was 32 rps at 40k 50% torque. Im 90%, my shim job was spot on and thought it was a bit low compared to my calculations.
What were you shooting for? (no pun intended haha)
While the T238 has less amp draw, it's clearly giving up torque (same RPM setting but lowest RPS) for it. Probably limiting the built in ESC for seemingly better AMP spec or simply can't risk too much current through it's MOSFET.
Thank you for your input! Makes alot of sense.
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@@wyshtechairsoft Sounds interesting, I'll check out. I wonder if you bring tht T238 up to same RPS how the AMP draw would change.
If you're curious, compare a Neodynium magnet high torque with a stock ferrit motor, at stock spring power the AMP draw of the stock motor is also lower so AMP isn't everything, it's a all related system.
Maybe I can do a quick youtube short?
Great edits. Thank you
Great video as always! I will be stopping by in the future to purchase an new cylinder/piston and motor and maybe a new gearset for my aeg. This video helped in regards to info plus you're local to me and better than Ben (you know your "favorite" Ben) at airsoft tech.
Thanks for the support bud! Are we talking about Ben C?
@@wyshtechairsoft nah Ben M
How do you like this gaoneng lipo?
I love them. Best discharge rate than any battery of its size ive used. I sell them on my website.
@@wyshtechairsoft thank you!
I think 😂they are awesome lipos I'm running a maxim defense pdx stock and it's got a tiny buffer tube most people use 7.4v but i am running a 11.1v 720mah 3s 100c 200c burst drone battery and I had to take the outer wrap off but fit's perfectly with no fuse and a xt30 and i also have 1 like he is using in the video and that's also pretty good quality
Yes, please make a video about the piston🙏
Alright! Ill add it to the backlog :)
@@wyshtechairsoft Great👍
Great vid. I’m messing with the v5 and Solink helical dsg gears now and I think ur assessments are pretty spot on.
Right on! What do you think of the motor so far?
@@wyshtechairsoft it’s pretty awesome, the braking is def superior to the t238s with the unidirectional bearing which also helps with making it more consistent. The amp draw seems to be a bit higher than t238 even when adjusting the “torque” option (I’m convinced it just limits the starting current pulled by the motor). I feel this is in part due to the motor now bearing the load of the main spring constantly rather than having a arl take that pressure off. But overall I feel it’s superior due to its more precise piston positioning, braking, startup, and programability. Currently in my setup with the motor set to max “torque” and 35k the semi response time is 18ms on 18:1 Solink helical dsg gears which was an improvement over the 23ms response time of the t238 33k I had previously. Sub 20ms semi on anything not 14:1 dsg or lower (excluding precocking) is very impressive.
@jhqtech Wow, thanks for the insight! How do you measure the response time?
@@wyshtechairsoft sound meter+leviathan readings then just average the two. It’s probably not perfect but close enough
@jhqtech How do you do it with a sound meter?
Can you test this motor on a titan ii!?!gate threw a "new" motor that is compatible with the titan ii and can adjust the motor revs via the app!!!so can you check if the original solink gen5 can do this adjustment too!?!?
I dont have a Titan II as im not a fan of Gate ETU's due to so many ive delt with that have issues
I want your precious opinion
For a build between 350-400 fps
T238 28k brushless 16:1 3 teeth off. Or
T238 28k brushless 13:1 3 tooth of?!?!
2 from pickup and 1 from release?
Fantastic video, love the rpm tachometer, I've been using the laser version and it's a pita. Just got a budget Solink and T238 in to test. Interested to see what type of bearing they used to achieve the unidirectional function as it's super easy to break these small bearings.
That makes two of us.
What's the tach and amp/volt meter you were using?
ToolKitRC WM150 Advanced Watt Meter 1-50v 150A 2.4" TFT Screen Display Power Voltage Current Tester PWM Output for RC Models a.co/d/0pyFeac
Here ya go
oh man! also what do you think of the specna arms factory brushless motors?
No sure honestly. Im pretty sure they are just solink motors that are rebranded.
That piston looks interesting, would be cool with a video about it
Sweet, okay!
Solink did recommend to keep the torque at 60%
In China, the solink v5 is retailing at ~90USD with the programming card, which still consider as overpriced by the local
$90? Where is the link to this pricing as Solink doesnt even sell the motor for that price in thier b2b price list.
Veerryyy informative video as always..
I think that unidirectional bearing will be pretty soon brake apart...also i'm guessing that motor's esc will have failures pretty soon as well...
Only time will tell
I have a 87.500 rounds with t238 33k in 13:1 at 1.2 joule without a single ttzzz....every 20000 i open gearbox just to check everything is ok...
And yes specna arms is solink..it's calling as Dark Matter Gen2
Cheers from Greece
Well I got the motor in a DMR build shooting 2.4J on .48g bbs and using precocking. So we shall see!
Solink makes a VFC compatible brushless motor for the mp7 and,no one has a video about it yet.
Could you do a full video showing tappet plate, hopup arm and brushless motor install, along with a video of how to modify the magazine follower to a one piece shorter design. Sort of a one stop shop video to make a VFC MP7 viable as a competitive aeg ?
170 euros is fucking STEEP
Yup.
I plan to make a video about the solink mp7 brushless motor at some point as I DO have the motor. Just really hard to find time to record more videos.
I want your precious opinion
For a build between 350-400 fps
T238 28k brushless 16:1 3 teeth off. Or
T238 28k brushless 13:1 3 tooth of?!?!
2 from pickup and 1 from release?
Depends what rps you are trying to go for. Either way, 3 teeth will give you better trigger response. Taking off which teeth depends on the gear brand as these days the tappet pin is located in different spota.
Bro i would like to ask best MOSFET with Solinkv5 46kRPM. Thanks! Im am using a SP150 spring with 550FPS. DDMk18ICS
Any etu of your preference. If it was my rifle, Id go with the Jefftron Scylla for its features and reliability.
Appreciate bro, one more thing. I know you’re such an experienced man. Does it works well with a HIGH FPS riffle? Im using a SP150 spring with 550FPS with a SPLIT GEARBOX. I saw one of your videos upgrade with ICSDDMK18, im like very surpriced on how you able put that jefftron MOSFET in a SPLIT GB. Im using the same riffle. ICSDDMK18. Thanks a lot master! 💪💪
@@enricodelosreyes4246etu fits in split or non split gearbox's bro ,being a split gearbox doesn't change the space for the switch block or etu but you may need to dremil the post where the screw goes to hold down the etu shorter depending on the gearbox but that's easy as and the scylla is a awesome unit
Just have a question, a buddy of mine is running a stock Cyma platinum M4 and the recommended battery. During a game his M4 stops shooting and when we tried to insert a different battery it was beeping like crazy so we inputed the old battery and it worked again but the M4 stops shooting again. So mid game he had to reconnecting the battery over and over again for it to shoot. What may be the cause of that?
Sounds like you got a bad electronic trigger unit. Those factory etu's are notorious for going bad. However this is a great opportunity to upgrade to a fully programmable and more reliable ETU like the Perun V2 Hybrid.
Hey man, so the Solink motors are advertised as being unidirectional, meaning that you can delete the anti-reversal latch. I'm wondering if this makes the gun any quieter, have you tried it?
It kinda does as you're removing part that contributes to gearbox noise.
will the programming card also work with solink ptw motors?
I believe so.
actually it,s not compatible, solink ptw motor not updated yet to be programmable, but will soon!
@mayviolet5084 Thank you for telling me! I appreciate the insight.
Afaik brushless motor speed doesn't affect their torque output. Speed is simply controlled by a speed controller while the torque is the same at all speeds.
Difference between low and high speed BL motor is the firmware that's loaded onto it not the winding.
Torque adjustment is probably a power limiter. Who knows what it actually does...
You short stroked on pickup I guess. Did you use a delayer chip? If you did which one? Did you cut it?
Please do the review of the blue T238 ASAP! Or give me your opinions here. Would love to get one (or two) but don't know what to expect.
Yes, I did use a delayer. Since JVAN wyshtech edition gearset that I used has the tappet pickup delayed than traditional. I did not have to trim the SHS chip at all. Also! Thank you for your input on the brushless motor torque and speed. I also think the "torque adjustment" is just a power limiter which is still pretty awesome since you can limit the amount of amperage pull so you dont pull more than you actually need depending on your build.
The blue cheap t238 brushless motor is the next video im going to make!
@@wyshtechairsoft Full delayer chip with JVAN gears and it's not releasing the piston before the tappet plate gets released? Might have to do some more testing with mine...
I have concluded that JVAN gears can't be short stroked on release pretty much at all due to early tappet release but I might be wrong. Would be doable if I'd cut the tappet fin but I want as reliable feeding as possible. Currently at 32RPS with T238 and 13:1 JVAN short stroked on pickup by 2 at around 1.4-1.45J.
Have you tested the blue T238? I have two builds that might get one of those if it's even close as good as silver T238.
One would be 4 tooth short stroked 13:1 (cyma plat gears) Cyma P90 and the other one DSG (JVAN gears and bushings) Krink.
Can't decide which RPM to go for... Want above 25RPS and under 30RPS on P90 (mag selection is pretty bad) and a bit over 40 on the krink. Power I'm aiming for is around 1.3-1.56J.
btw I know that Krytac P90 mags exist...no thanks.
real deal parts
Real Deal and I might collab someday! He's a really nice guy.
Great video
Thank you!
great viedo
Thanks bud!
T238 FOR THE WIN 🏆 🙌 ❤🎉😂
Great video my friend very nice👌🏽
@tawnos211 Thank you! It means alot. This video I spent alot of time editing.
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Absolutely. LOVE this motor!!!!
Dammmmmm 2:03
That piston makes the rifle sound smoother.