Great water angle. I found as a bigger guy, a fish was ideal to progress down from mal shapes. Great to get the feel of a shorter board, but still have wave catching and stability. As you said, not as easy to do rios, but such a fun template. Quad setup is great for down the line speed on a fish.
You are totally correct on all points BGBSR . Quad set up usually does work better on most really wide tails like a fish , fast and seems to have more control at high speeds .
I am 6ft & weighed 220lbs last year in October & started hating my boards for not having enough volume. I have been on Keto now a year this month & weigh 170lbs & loving surfing again 😎🤙🏾
Hey guys if you want to ask Andy the shaper of this surfboard any Q's follow him on Insta: instagram.com/rip_stix We will be doing more board reviews, tests and shaping demos in the near future
did not see the channel name , recognized your voice though hehe ! knowing that you are a big guy from the previous videos , it is really interesting to see what you can do on a 6.2 i thought i am a bit heavy for my 6.2 ( 85 kg ) .. motivation is back up to the roof
Great advice. Learning to ride a fish is definitely a different feeling. After watching your stance, I think I need to narrow up a little more. I love the fish because you have to to ride the natural shape of the wave as opposed to forcing your will. In a way, it’s almost like giving up the ego. Thanks for the video!
What’s actually nice about these type of fishes that tend to be wider is that you can move your stance up and down the board , you don’t want to necessarily be stuck standing in one spot all the time . You can move up on slower sections and pump for speed , then once you have the speed move the stance back and turn at a tighter radius . It takes some practice but once you tap into that your fish surfing will improve a lot .
I had to sell my surfboards, but I couldn't part with my twinny + 1 fish! You can get some real nice high performance eggs these days. My surfboards were 6'6'' x 20 x 2 5/8 JS tractor board square tail and I also had a 6'4'' x 20 x 2 3/4 Adams Thumb tail shaped for me. I was kind of forced to sell both of them unfortunately. I loved my Adams x I used to love surfing thumb tail fish boards. Most days I'm on a body board with swim fins due to ease of transport and getting fuller body workout, but days when I can get boards to beach I'll surf the fish for the first half of the session. The best board I ever surfed was my Adams. Thickness in the areas under your feet and width of board feel like important aspects of a board with good dimensions for bigger people, and a somewhat a thinner/ narrower nose can making it easier to duck dive I find. Anyway you can feel what works for each individual thought provoking video. Nice 👍
I know the kids are up in Dallas but do you think yall will ever surf in Texas? Corpus Christi has some pretty good spots, Surfside is probably the closest though.
I got a fish that was about 2 inches shorter than me and was around like 32 liter. Rode it well but the covid happened and I gained like 15 pounds and it all went to the gut which blocks my standing position. Just started training my paddle on it again and it took about 3 weeks to get comfortable, still stink at standing on it though, but getting used to it again for sure 😂 I remember the first time I got it, my chest was probably 6 inches below the top end of the board, and I remember thinking holy moly I’m so far up on this thing but I have to be to stand 😂
Great video and explanations, especially the difference between "pumping" and "flow". Question on pumping: is it really more vertical pushing with your legs or more the hula hoop action? Learned on single fins so never really maximized getting water moving through my thrusters. Thanks!
Earl good question about pumping for speed .. Both your analogies are correct , you get lower and the them push off your legs to get the pump actual , while at the same time the hula hoop action with the hips. Good way to describe the surf pump.
Thanks a lot for your videos! Most of the people start with longboards, trying to transition to smaller ones later on. Do you think it would be interesting to show this transition like how to position the weight, how to do the runs and etc?
Pasha yes this would be a great board review video . It would make for an awesome and highly informative video . It’s not easy to transition down in board size , especially when jumping down from a long board to a much shorter board .
I feel like volume is SO counterintuitive. I has to be. I'm 38 yrs old, 5'8, around 190/195 pounds, and a beginner. I bought a 60L 8' fun board and I suck on it. However, I'm staying in and catching white water. I ended up buying a 8' foamie just last week at around 85 or so liters, and it's so much more fun for my skill level and what I want to do at the moment which is just getting on the board and cruising without sinking. Once I progress and learn how to ride the face of a wave and turn, I might go back to the 60L fun board, but I don't really see much benefit of keeping it now that I have my 8' foamie and when I can get a $350 - 6.5 ft foamie fish that's 60L as well. I think the thing that I'm struggling with my snowboarder and skateboarder background is foot placement. I am speculating as I haven't surfed anything less than 8', but I feel like short boards allow you to push the board underneath you to your feet easier, and given that there's less board surface, then you have a somewhat fixed foot placement and you get on and ride it basically in that one position more or less. Long boards I'm struggling with... it's just I'm walking all over it. I try the back, the middle, the front, etc. There's too much going on. Am I making any sense? Is my intuition correct? I feel like a shortboard/fish should be easier than a longboard, but all the experts on the internet tell me I'm wrong.
Nice vid, thanks. Looking to get a Machado GoFish soon, 6'1" for my 5"11/150 lb. frame.Hey, next video, can you throw in a few lines about what you know about surfing with contact lenses? This subject I have never seen touched by anyone. Thanks, man!
mpatrzyk1966 I surf all the time with contact lenses. It’s like doing any other thing. Don’t even realise I have them on, except for one time when a rogue wave just flicked one lens off my eye, which was pretty strange tbh
6'1" fish seems too big if your 5'11" 150lbs. are you a beginner? I'm 6'2" 230lbs and surf a 5'11" fish with 40 liters bc waves are smaller and not powerful here in Florida
Sean Denney - Thanks for the reply! Actually, yes, I AM a beginner, so I definitely don’t want to get an undersized board. Live in Cleveland, with small, mushy, occasional waves. That said, would you still advise something smaller, or is 6’ 3” appropriate?
When you lay forward on the board, do your feet land where you need them for the trimming and carving? Or do you pop up and need to move back? I'm on a 6'6" fish, but always land in the middle of the board after my pop up, too far forward for really working the wave.
I usually ride 5'6 - 5'11 ranging from 25 - 31 liters. From my knowledge you ride fish usually on quite short sizes and low volumes, right? I really wanna pick one up, not quite sure about model and volume though. Any1 some advices?
I'm a big fan of over sized fish. basically the same length as my short-board. No need to go shorter, i can do the same turns and cutbacks with a few extra inches, but a lot more waves.
Love all surfboards, but that's not a Fish in shape or tail... It's a swallow tail/ dove tail (depending where in the world you are) hybrid board. A true is a different beast again. 👌
I know people like to call that a fish but it's a thruster with a swallowtail. Try a real fish with keel fins. Rides a whole lot different that thing's just going to ride like a floatier version of what you already have.
Speaking of being over weight and surfing short boards. You ever heard of Jimbo pelegrene? Is the board he riding just super thick or what? How can he surf and paddle such a small board and get shacked like he does lol here is a clip of you've never seen him before ruclips.net/video/yrf93aLQXBE/видео.html
The fish was actually less volume than your short board,I looked closely and the fish is 36 litre whilst shortboard is 36,2 litre😂 tiny difference anyway
Not Pat, it’s too wide of a cut and too deep of a cut for this tail to be considered a swallow tail. Usually swallow tails have cut going in one to two inches , where fishes get as deep at 6 to 8 inches in on the cut . Swallows are around 6 to 7 inches wide from tip to tip, and fishes usually 8 to 10 inches wide , this fish is 8 1/2 wide tip to tip . Hope that helps . One of the next episodes will be all about tail shapes and how they work .
Great vid! I’m learning from longboard to short and bought a 6’10” fish. Your tips are great! Keep the vids coming!
I just finished shaping a fish, such a great little wave catching machine.
Awesome to see you out there hitting it! All systems were a go...
Aaron on the longboard ripping 👌👌
I just got a fish yesterday, pretty psyched to get out on it! This vid got me even more psyched \m/ the froth is over flowing!
i love my fish. I get into every wave. and i can still whip it around like a performance board
Yep, when you find a good fish its hard to switch back.
Those clips, out on the waves, might just be the best ever.
Great water angle. I found as a bigger guy, a fish was ideal to progress down from mal shapes. Great to get the feel of a shorter board, but still have wave catching and stability. As you said, not as easy to do rios, but such a fun template.
Quad setup is great for down the line speed on a fish.
Yep, i will be switching to the quad for the next session on this board. Hard to image it being faster then it already is
You are totally correct on all points BGBSR . Quad set up usually does work better on most really wide tails like a fish , fast and seems to have more control at high speeds .
Dude! Your videos are amazing! Love it!
I am 6ft & weighed 220lbs last year in October & started hating my boards for not having enough volume. I have been on Keto now a year this month & weigh 170lbs & loving surfing again 😎🤙🏾
Nice goals. That's a huge transformation! Great job. It must feel great. My ideal weight is around 195
Mahalos 😎🤙🏾
Hey guys if you want to ask Andy the shaper of this surfboard any Q's follow him on Insta:
instagram.com/rip_stix We will be doing more board reviews, tests and shaping demos in the near future
Great video! Thanks for the knowledge!
did not see the channel name , recognized your voice though hehe ! knowing that you are a big guy from the previous videos , it is really interesting to see what you can do on a 6.2 i thought i am a bit heavy for my 6.2 ( 85 kg ) .. motivation is back up to the roof
Awesome! Nice session. You looked super comfortable on those small waves
Yah this fish works super good. 👍
I got myself a 7'2" fish and I've been having a hard time getting on waves, going to try sliding up a little bit more. Thank you!
' Nice vid on the fish ..my fav right now is my classic Shawn Tomson 6' 8'' 1977 pintail." Need to get a fish for Santa Cruz.
Love the style of this Video!
Thanks man..
Cool, i will definitely be doing more like this. They are actually my favorite since i get to surf and they are easy to edit with a simple voice over.
Good tip to paddle far forward. Thank you!
Great advice. Learning to ride a fish is definitely a different feeling. After watching your stance, I think I need to narrow up a little more. I love the fish because you have to to ride the natural shape of the wave as opposed to forcing your will. In a way, it’s almost like giving up the ego. Thanks for the video!
What’s actually nice about these type of fishes that tend to be wider is that you can move your stance up and down the board , you don’t want to necessarily be stuck standing in one spot all the time . You can move up on slower sections and pump for speed , then once you have the speed move the stance back and turn at a tighter radius . It takes some practice but once you tap into that your fish surfing will improve a lot .
Andrew seidensticker I’ll definitely have to experiment more with it. Thanks for the advice!!
You are the guy to Learn from. Thanks
Right on, thanks!
Amazing stuff keep it coming
I had to sell my surfboards, but I couldn't part with my twinny + 1 fish! You can get some real nice high performance eggs these days. My surfboards were 6'6'' x 20 x 2 5/8 JS tractor board square tail and I also had a 6'4'' x 20 x 2 3/4 Adams Thumb tail shaped for me. I was kind of forced to sell both of them unfortunately. I loved my Adams x I used to love surfing thumb tail fish boards. Most days I'm on a body board with swim fins due to ease of transport and getting fuller body workout, but days when I can get boards to beach I'll surf the fish for the first half of the session. The best board I ever surfed was my Adams. Thickness in the areas under your feet and width of board feel like important aspects of a board with good dimensions for bigger people, and a somewhat a thinner/ narrower nose can making it easier to duck dive I find. Anyway you can feel what works for each individual thought provoking video. Nice 👍
Try using twin fin on a fish board it’s amazing it’s so much more fun in my opinion
Oh yeah I have a twinny fish with two glass on fins and an optional small fcs centre fin.
Great video - Pura Vida =D
ooh man, this is going to be relevant when we get out of lockdown T__T
I already ride a fish though lol
I know the kids are up in Dallas but do you think yall will ever surf in Texas? Corpus Christi has some pretty good spots, Surfside is probably the closest though.
I got a fish that was about 2 inches shorter than me and was around like 32 liter. Rode it well but the covid happened and I gained like 15 pounds and it all went to the gut which blocks my standing position. Just started training my paddle on it again and it took about 3 weeks to get comfortable, still stink at standing on it though, but getting used to it again for sure 😂
I remember the first time I got it, my chest was probably 6 inches below the top end of the board, and I remember thinking holy moly I’m so far up on this thing but I have to be to stand 😂
*Big rippa*
Great video and explanations, especially the difference between "pumping" and "flow". Question on pumping: is it really more vertical pushing with your legs or more the hula hoop action? Learned on single fins so never really maximized getting water moving through my thrusters. Thanks!
Earl good question about pumping for speed .. Both your analogies are correct , you get lower and the them push off your legs to get the pump actual , while at the same time the hula hoop action with the hips. Good way to describe the surf pump.
Thanks a lot for your videos! Most of the people start with longboards, trying to transition to smaller ones later on. Do you think it would be interesting to show this transition like how to position the weight, how to do the runs and etc?
Pasha yes this would be a great board review video . It would make for an awesome and highly informative video . It’s not easy to transition down in board size , especially when jumping down from a long board to a much shorter board .
Hey, thats a very nice and cool board, where can I get one like that?
I feel like volume is SO counterintuitive. I has to be. I'm 38 yrs old, 5'8, around 190/195 pounds, and a beginner. I bought a 60L 8' fun board and I suck on it. However, I'm staying in and catching white water. I ended up buying a 8' foamie just last week at around 85 or so liters, and it's so much more fun for my skill level and what I want to do at the moment which is just getting on the board and cruising without sinking. Once I progress and learn how to ride the face of a wave and turn, I might go back to the 60L fun board, but I don't really see much benefit of keeping it now that I have my 8' foamie and when I can get a $350 - 6.5 ft foamie fish that's 60L as well. I think the thing that I'm struggling with my snowboarder and skateboarder background is foot placement. I am speculating as I haven't surfed anything less than 8', but I feel like short boards allow you to push the board underneath you to your feet easier, and given that there's less board surface, then you have a somewhat fixed foot placement and you get on and ride it basically in that one position more or less. Long boards I'm struggling with... it's just I'm walking all over it. I try the back, the middle, the front, etc. There's too much going on. Am I making any sense? Is my intuition correct? I feel like a shortboard/fish should be easier than a longboard, but all the experts on the internet tell me I'm wrong.
longboard would be easier then a fish. once you progress you will feel it
Hi man, nice vid! Quick question, looking for my first fish. Have you ever surfed a fish of 40Litres? If yes, how did you experience it? Thanks
On any surfboard should I be laying on the board so the nose is barely out of the water like an inch or like 2 or 3 inches
Nice vid, thanks. Looking to get a Machado GoFish soon, 6'1" for my 5"11/150 lb. frame.Hey, next video, can you throw in a few lines about what you know about surfing with contact lenses? This subject I have never seen touched by anyone. Thanks, man!
mpatrzyk1966 I surf all the time with contact lenses. It’s like doing any other thing. Don’t even realise I have them on, except for one time when a rogue wave just flicked one lens off my eye, which was pretty strange tbh
6'1" fish seems too big if your 5'11" 150lbs. are you a beginner?
I'm 6'2" 230lbs and surf a 5'11" fish with 40 liters bc waves are smaller and not powerful here in Florida
Sean Denney -
Thanks for the reply! Actually, yes, I AM a beginner, so I definitely don’t want to get an undersized board. Live in Cleveland, with small, mushy, occasional waves. That said, would you still advise something smaller, or is 6’ 3” appropriate?
Heading to costa in nov . Bringing the fish😃
good choice
I love my fish.
When you lay forward on the board, do your feet land where you need them for the trimming and carving? Or do you pop up and need to move back? I'm on a 6'6" fish, but always land in the middle of the board after my pop up, too far forward for really working the wave.
Need a shorter fish? 6'1"-5' 11"
I usually ride 5'6 - 5'11 ranging from 25 - 31 liters. From my knowledge you ride fish usually on quite short sizes and low volumes, right? I really wanna pick one up, not quite sure about model and volume though. Any1 some advices?
I'm a big fan of over sized fish. basically the same length as my short-board. No need to go shorter, i can do the same turns and cutbacks with a few extra inches, but a lot more waves.
I'm from brazillian
For some reason I never liked fishes. Squash or round tail for me
Yep some people don't like the way they feel, but there are so many styles of fish i think anyone can find one they like
Where were you surfing at in this video?
how big were the waves
Where is it? amazing place and waves!
Costa Rica
@iSURFTRIBE Another youtuber recommends fish as a beginner board, even over longboards. Thoughts?
Yes fish are great for beginner/intermediates that are out the back.
Veektory K How to rip!
Did I get it correctly? you're almost 230lbs (104Kg) and catching waves easy with a 36L board ??? (no way!?!)
That’s so cool and I am first comment
😎
Where in Costa Rica is this?
Love all surfboards, but that's not a Fish in shape or tail... It's a swallow tail/ dove tail (depending where in the world you are) hybrid board. A true is a different beast again. 👌
The volumes are labeled on the boards, it says the fish has less volume.
By 200 ml
Also says aprox so yeah
Which place in Costa Rica?
Beginner to intermediate here at 95kg and I'm 6f4.
What volume fish would you recommend for me thanks mate.
iam 100kg at 6ft my "fish" that iam learning to ride on has 42 litres of volume and it works pretty well for me.
I’m 6’4 and 95kg too haha, I’ve just ordered a new fish 6’0 (37 litres) I’ll let you know how it goes
2:15 move up on the board
My first board is a 8ft fish
A chubby girl trying to learn here
They both have the same volume it says
To catch waves, do we need to get out far into the ocean because i have fear 😂💀
I know people like to call that a fish but it's a thruster with a swallowtail. Try a real fish with keel fins. Rides a whole lot different that thing's just going to ride like a floatier version of what you already have.
where are u surfing at?
Costa Rica
It says 36.2 vs 36.6. No significant difference in volume, so it's all about shape.
Both are hand shaped boards which means written volume means nothing and can be upto 1+ liters off. Machine shapes are another story
Not really fish qbut great vid
Speaking of being over weight and surfing short boards. You ever heard of Jimbo pelegrene? Is the board he riding just super thick or what? How can he surf and paddle such a small board and get shacked like he does lol here is a clip of you've never seen him before
ruclips.net/video/yrf93aLQXBE/видео.html
how much do you weight bro ?? how do you duck dive like that with a 36 liters board
230 hahahaha i wasnt at that part of the vide yet
Technique mate, one of my boards is 45 litres and is easily duck diveable after practice
Aren’t they both 36 litters ?
ＮＩＣＥ ＢＯＡＲＤ！！！！！！！！！！！！！
I’m only 66 lbs :(
The fish was actually less volume than your short board,I looked closely and the fish is 36 litre whilst shortboard is 36,2 litre😂 tiny difference anyway
That’s really just a swallow tail
Isn't that more of a swallow tail?
Not Pat, it’s too wide of a cut and too deep of a cut for this tail to be considered a swallow tail. Usually swallow tails have cut going in one to two inches , where fishes get as deep at 6 to 8 inches in on the cut . Swallows are around 6 to 7 inches wide from tip to tip, and fishes usually 8 to 10 inches wide , this fish is 8 1/2 wide tip to tip . Hope that helps . One of the next episodes will be all about tail shapes and how they work .
Be quit smart guy😒