The Book of Jasher

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  • Опубликовано: 21 фев 2022
  • “Is this not written in the Book of Jasher?” asks the author of the Biblical Book of Joshua. And in another reference in 2 Samuel, the author assures us that further details are “written in the Book of Jasher.” This intriguing book that pre-dates the Bible has been lost since ancient times. However, the name has inspired numerous forgeries. One such “Book of Jasher” was translated and published in English in 1840. Soon after it made its way to Nauvoo, Illinois, where it was accepted by the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith Jr. The book was reprinted in 1886 in Salt Lake City, Utah, and continues to circulate among Mormons to this day. John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place will trace the surprising origin of this obscure Book of Jasher.
    A Q&A and discussion will follow the presentation. Please send your questions on the live chat.
    Lecture topics include:
    Hebrew Bible
    Old Testament
    Book of Joshua
    Book of Samuel
    Biblical references to unknown sources
    Lost books of the Bible
    Ancient Israel
    #lecture #cofchrist

Комментарии • 49

  • @jameshopkins7507
    @jameshopkins7507 2 года назад +16

    I always get so much out of your presentations. Thank you for putting things into greater perspective and enriching us with often missed details.

  • @lolafemmefatale1503
    @lolafemmefatale1503 2 года назад +6

    I'm learning so much from you

  • @USA50_
    @USA50_ 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for the lectures!

  • @jill948
    @jill948 Год назад +3

    another fabulous lecture. Thank you John for all your work.

  • @alexvince461
    @alexvince461 2 года назад +4

    Another great lecture, thanks John, keep up the good work, it's very much appreciated

  • @langreeves6419
    @langreeves6419 2 года назад +4

    Great lecture, thank you so much.

  • @wailinburnin
    @wailinburnin 2 года назад +5

    John - the “garments” mention, I am reading Ghost Dancing and the Sioux Uprising of 1890 which says Ghost Shirts are probably the result of Mormon sacred garments.

  • @davidatrakchi2707
    @davidatrakchi2707 Год назад +2

    I’m amazed by your knowledge of Biblical Hebrew, I would dare say much more than the average Israeli

  • @historysmysteriesunveiled8043
    @historysmysteriesunveiled8043 Год назад +3

    New here, so has your channel covered the events that transpired between John Dee famous occultist and Joseph Smith? It's staggering to me that it's rather well-known that he took part in seances, divining and magical treasure hunting with the assistance of Dee, yet many are still enslaved by this false religion. Understandable I suppose as almost all treasure hunting until the nineteenth century was done using Magic. But it was appalling when I learned this considering Joseph's claim to piety.

  • @user-po7gj2ev3k
    @user-po7gj2ev3k 11 месяцев назад +2

    Eliezer of Damascus is a chareter only mentioned once in genesis that I'd like to know more about.

  • @jsonitsac
    @jsonitsac 2 года назад +6

    Semitic languages are now considered to be a sub-family of Afro-Asiatic.
    I believe that the main Masonic garment is the apron, reminiscent of what they state a craftsman might wear. This is pretty consistent even going back to pictures of George Washington when he was depicting himself Masonically. Generally they wear that along with their fancy suits, gloves, and top hats. They will also wear things like sashes and jewelry would denote ranks within the lodge/order. I believe they only wear that stuff when they get fully dressed up during their ceremonies both in private and in public; I don’t get the sense that every lodge meeting they wear the full top hats and gloves, but maybe they have the aprons. They don’t seem to wear the aprons all the time as a condition of membership.

    • @ESCosta
      @ESCosta 2 года назад

      I have someone in the family that is a Mason. They indeed use the aprons in every meeting and a full suit, the rest is for special occasions.

  • @jill948
    @jill948 Год назад +1

    Discussion question #2
    I "Voices oh the first day" Robert Lawlor
    Awakening in the Aboriginal Dreamtime

  • @user-nw9fu9tg9l
    @user-nw9fu9tg9l 2 года назад +2

    The verse you are comparing to 2 Samuel is from 1 Chronicles 21. It’s incorrectly cited at 11:00. I love your videos. Thank you for all you do.

  • @gaillee5747
    @gaillee5747 Год назад +3

    Just because there is no evidence found of a book of Jasher in ancient days, does not meant this text or any other text did not exist during that time.

    • @gaillee5747
      @gaillee5747 Год назад +2

      These texts Tanakh were written by man but G-d is the author using their hands to tell His story. If G-d used man as a conduit to tell His story in Tanakh, could it be possible for G-d to guide another person hand to so the same again? Even Yeshua said knowledge will be increased.

  • @RaeHager
    @RaeHager Год назад +1

    THE ECCENE GOSPLE OF PEACE . CAN U DO A LECTURE ON THIS ?

  • @larrypullum9410
    @larrypullum9410 2 года назад +5

    Enjoy your talks. You have a grasp that indicates your love of the things you study, and hence a depth of understanding in your analyses.
    The narratives of scripture can be added to - (not the words, however, which represent an urban constellation) - or further elaborated upon, legitimately, I think, because the OT and NT are ultimately formed upon the certain epical and historic transcendence implied anew by every New World and newly Universal Civilization, coming - like the US today, and Rome others before obviously - in historic succession and stage.
    The Lord becomes the basis for the historic alternation and given world regional succession of Monarchy and Democracy established anew each time once again therein; and as such democracies are not only the overthrow of such previous, and by then already morally fallen kings, so that the Lord removes kings thereby - just as he becomes an ethnographic “evening” at such eventually universal heights.
    While the epical advance of such New Worlds become the basis in the Lord, of himself, at such universal heights, for the kingdoms, or newly aristocratic “morning” to come no less ethnographically over the next epoch - (hence, the connection of the Book of Jasher to Alcuin in the time of Charlemagne, as Charlemagne was a reincarnation of King David in concerns of Christendom).
    Nimrod is, in contemporary history, the modern rise of democracy and nationalism with the Napoleonic Empire: hence, he began to be a mighty one in the earth as the then popular or democratic and nationalistic rise - (even as Nimrod) - of Empire, leading through Republican France, Victorian England, Nazi Germany, and the US, as the four beasts of Revelation 4, to the throne of the Lord to come anew in such New Worlds, and particular new nations, at those universal heights, in judgment of the propertied bases of those democracies, in the one hand, and in harbinger of the future kingdoms to come therein, on the other hand, and through the prophetic and apostolic institution of religion anew on wholly gathered culturally communistic communities like Acts 2.
    The underwear connected to the temple in Mormonism is tied to the hidden shaming of the Lord, as the sexual is used by the wealthy and powerful as a means of shaming; hence, the actual nakedness of the Emperor in his new clothes, where people, in their fear of power, assume competence is a bowing to organizational power, rather than a fundamental truth in the ability to answer for who and what God is.
    I am walking all around what I want to say, it seems to me. You speak on interesting topics, and on a complex level, and this is a difficult medium of expression - (for me, at least) - but I enjoyed your talk. Thank you.

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    To start writing things down

  • @markj2305
    @markj2305 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for your work.
    I wonder how we know there never was anybody named Abram, Abraham, Moses, or others that may be thought pure fiction. None of us were there. I hear certain ideas in the bible were thought false, only to be found real later, such as the existence of a city called Nineveh. I just want to have an objective paradigm. For all I know these stories could be reruns and remastered tales of some form of
    reality.

    • @historicalbiblicalresearch8440
      @historicalbiblicalresearch8440 2 года назад

      No historical trace of them has been found and the current consensus is that they probably never existed but I guess nobody is certain but keep studying. I sure hope Moses never existed because he was a real psychopath.

    • @koboldgeorge2140
      @koboldgeorge2140 Год назад +2

      As ive learned more about history and scholarship ive come to assume that most legends and folk stories come from some sort of basis in the real world.
      The discovery of historical troy should have been enough to seal imo, but archaeology is a conservative discipline so maybe a few more generations are what's needed

    • @jaustill237
      @jaustill237 Год назад +1

      He is just saying 'in all likelihood'. The stories that we have of those persons were written so long after the time that they actually lived that it can't be taken as evidence. If we were to find the real Moses, it would likely be in Egyptian history.

  • @wallaceanthony4707
    @wallaceanthony4707 Год назад

    Those that pretend to have it all figured out are always the most lost.

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    Sumeria was wiped out . They were among the first as well

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    Even for early Semitic languages. Who were the first

  • @mariojardonsantos7568
    @mariojardonsantos7568 2 года назад +2

    Was Abraham smashing Buddah in that muslim drawing?

  • @theflaggedyoutuberii4311
    @theflaggedyoutuberii4311 2 года назад +1

    11:30 I think you have a strong misunderstanding of scripture; God is not mad at David for taking a census, God's mad at David, so he make him take a census as one of his punishments. It's akin to my mom's mad at me so she makes me take out the trash then she grounds me for a week. She doesn't ground me because I took out the trash; the trash, is one of the punishments.
    And the Satan in Chronicles is a reference to David's sin.

    • @ObjectiveEthics
      @ObjectiveEthics Год назад

      Actually you are telling a lie about the story in 1 Chronicle. If you Actually read the story in Chronicle there is no mention of Satan being a reference to David's "sin". Why do Christians feel it is better to lie about what is actually written in the Bible as opposed to simply acknowledging the truth that the Bible is full of contradictions? Does your theology fear the truth? It would appear so. The story in Chronicle does mirror the story in 2 Samuel with a few contradictions. Read both side by side and you can see the Chronicle author has made a few changes. Such as changing God's role with Satan in the beginning of the story and confirms that you are being dishonest about your assertion that Satan was simply another way of saying "sin". The sin of David is specifically mentioned and it is clear that Satan is not another way to say sin as you have dishonesty asserted. Your lies about the Bible cause people to reject your faith, they don't attract people to your faith.

    • @theflaggedyoutuberii4311
      @theflaggedyoutuberii4311 Год назад

      @faithfull885 It's not a lie just because you don't accept the interpretation because of your ignorance and hatred of God. And how are you having a plain reading of the text when you're separated from Target audience by a few thousand years ago you would have Knowledge to have a plain reading of the text but now you're so removed from the culture that you are basically an ignorant baby.

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    Simple stick figures. With crosses through them. . And modified to represent sound 🙌

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    Language was not entirely resolved at that point 😐

  • @Stolas1777
    @Stolas1777 2 года назад +1

    The story of Abraham and his fathers idols and him smashing them comes from the Midrash Genesis Rabbah the Quran has many midrashic stories the Arabs quite obviously heard while living in close proximity to Jewish tribes of the peninsula in the 7th century; I mean to say this is a Jewish story first and foremost

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад

    Many examples of this still exist today

  • @adelalshurbagy1113
    @adelalshurbagy1113 2 месяца назад

    abraham been cast into the fire is a story also mentioned in the quran , allah saved him from the fire , so there is some truth in that book

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад

    Mis-spellings were common place .. remember . Mainly because it was passed down verbally

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    The only known "[paper actually

  • @esoteric_teachings
    @esoteric_teachings 2 года назад +1

    Yaldabaoth is mean!

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    Proto- language written on clay

  • @latetotheparty4785
    @latetotheparty4785 5 месяцев назад

    The Levant is in the Near East, not the Middle East.

    • @latetotheparty4785
      @latetotheparty4785 5 месяцев назад

      For Melchizedek, late Biblical scholar Michael S. Heiser has a fabulous RUclips video. It’s amazing what can be gleaned from so few verses when a scholar knows the ancient languages and history of Cana.

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    Semites. As compared to antisemites

  • @andrewisjesus
    @andrewisjesus 2 года назад +1

    Here's the big secret guys, there is no difference between the books in the Old Testament, the canonical Bible, and all of these other books except for the fact that the mystery origin of the stories , through clear and obvious interpolations if not 100% Fabrications
    I remember when I first was doing research on the Book of Genesis that it was commonly viewed to be written around 300 BC at the time of I don't know maybe about 2008
    This is very very friendly, and the documentary hypothesis even is very Christian idea, all of the ideas of source documents are Christian ideas as far as the New Testament, this means l m and Q, they are all theoretical, if you're Christian is the only reason that you would theorize their existence. The fact of the matter is is it somebody creating a narrative around a certain social circumstance that they find themselves in
    The wisdom saying, "past is prologue" should really resonate with people, and really the greatest book of the entire Bible is the Book of Ecclesiastes, slightly surpassing the full poetic portion of the

  • @chutspe
    @chutspe 2 года назад +2

    Are you at Centre Place wearing ritual undergarments?

    • @USA50_
      @USA50_ 2 года назад +2

      Earlier in the lecture he said Community of Christ doesn't carry that tradition but the Brigham Young branch of Mormons do continue that tradition.

    • @chutspe
      @chutspe 2 года назад +1

      @@USA50_ Oh, I missed that. Thank you!

  • @robertbud8084
    @robertbud8084 2 года назад +1

    It's awful