dont see much of a point in running it over vantage point when its overcharged (25%) while autos are not and dark ether origin trait is so good. dying to hear your thoughts on sanguine alchemy a lot of ppl are using it for boss dps but the neutral game is extremely strong as well especially on arc
Definitely a mule of a weapon in the HUD too much bulk for my liking. Also I am jealous of the PVP lobbies you are getting, people practically running at you wanting to get hit.
I was initially just going to entirely pass over it (I already got the one roll of demo/chain on the dungeon fusion I wanted and it was the only one that immediately came to mind) but after you mentioned strategist/jolting feedback, I thought about a build from ATP I've been trying out lately (essentially Gifted Conviction on Prismatic-Ascension Hunter and realized Strategist/Jolting Feedback on this gun would pair really well with this build; looks like I'm going back in to grind it more).
I assumed Jolting Feedback needed consistent damage on the same target to proc. It just activating on the 16th bullet on ANY number of enemies within a small timeframe is a game changer. I'll have to give it a go!
Gun feels awful the mag doesn't refresh nearly as fast as it needs and it doesn't refresh while sliding which is whta most of us do constantly. They should make it when amplified killing enemies with explosions refills the mag alah subsistence.@@gambeano
Yeah, things a disappointing version of Riskrunner. No arc exotic compares, more so now on titan with the Peacekeepers change. Can't understate how much Sanguine Alchemy healing rifts and Riskrunner will carry your fireteams. Bring a sword with Energy Transfer
Centrifuse needs a full rework. Needing to always be sprinting or sliding is a HUGE cost for a mag that doesnt even refill as quickly as it needs to be. Its a worse Riskrunner
This gun with Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback is the perfect primary for the newest Warlock exotic, Rime-coat whatever. Devour+Arcane Needle+Facet of Dawn+Facet of Solitude. Place your turret domain, melee and start shooting: enemies will slow, freeze, shatter, jolt and be both severed and unraveled, while you're radiant. It's crazy good and carries my solo dungeon runs, especially in second encounter (just add Lost Signal and an Wardcliff Coil and you're good to go for a chill run tbh).
For real, the four dungeon guns are some of the best looking legendaries they've ever made. The Deepstone Crypt weapons are the best-looking guns they've ever made imo, these weapons are a worthy successor.
jolting feedback is such an upgrade over the voltshot perk by a insane margin, volt shot only giving one shot that applies jolt and you can only to it after a kill, it just feels bad to use it desperately needs a change something along the lines of Magnificent Howl e.g. for every kill you get before reloading grants you a "charged shot" on reloading you get a number of "volt rounds" that each cause a jolt and hitting a jolted target spreads it to nearby enemies, and get more "charged shots" for killing higher tier enemies.
Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback make it feel like an exotic. It's the closest thing to Zhalo Supercell from D1. That alone is why people want attrition orbs, instead of generating super energy you generate an orb which is more or less the same thing
I agree. Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback are such a good combo. I've got a other one with Eddy Current/Jolting Feedback but the ability to make so many orbs that feed into the blinding artifact perk make it my go to this season
I was waiting for you to speak on this because I saw what you saw. I managed to get the 390 pulse with Eddy Current/Jolting Feedback, but the god roll for this still aludes me. It's definitely a beast of weapon and with the synergy mod plus the artifact perk you get a lot of ionic traces to stack onto the origin trait.
They need to add weapon and perk attuning for weapons that aren’t craftable. Like for Vespers you can attune the auto rifle and attune one of the two perks from the 1st and 2nd column and one of the two perks from the 3rd and 4th column
Looking for Fragile Focus(or To The Pain) with Closing Time for PvP personally. High magazine means it's fine to drop the first half into a wall and have 24 bullets left with Closing Time active for all of it. Should hit about 100 range and handling, plus the accuracy boost is huge.
Great review as always! I'm really liking the scopes on these weapons, even the fusion, which I wouldn't have expected before using it. I'm definitely hoping to get my hands on eddy current + jolting feedback for a raiju's build on hunter for a bit of spice in endgame pve. I'm sure it'll happen right after I roll envious + BnS on the gl and unicorns return to the wild
I have a decent strategist/jolting feedback. It is so fun. Sidebar: the reissued Crucible sidearm has eddy current/voltshot. It feels so smooth mowing through adds.
Never taking this weapon off and can’t wait for iron banner so I can get the new stasis rocket sidearm with chill clip 😮 jolting and freezing everything
My 2nd drop was the auto rifle w/ hammer, ricochet, fragile and kill clip w/ a range MW. Amazing and it surprised me on the range, and how it out dueled most autos and hand cannons.
Had to go here... As per your title, in the wise words of Deadpool, perhaps it would be "Maximum effort with Hero results" lol... Just watched Deadpool and Wolverine, so the second I saw your title, it popped into my head... lol. Hope you're feeling well young man. My best to you and yours, always.
Got 2 of these, 1 with kw and target lock with range master work and one with strategist and jolting feedback. Can’t remember the mw on that one but the target lock roll absolutely shreds in pvp
Hey brother, hope everything is going well with your health and personal life. Can't wait for the anonymous autumn review. That thing is a beast with adagio.
@@brandonbrock2216 You make a compelling argument, but I rarely use arc (or prismatic), so getting amplified isn't happening. So, I'd prefer a perk that's subclass agnostic (or doesn't require sprinting).
I’d say Enhanced Jolting Feedback is viable for builds that don’t use amplify, since it reduces the number of bullets required from 16 to 15 which in a 60 round mag will apply jolt one more time than base
I'm genuinely curious, are you playing on a small screen? I can see the model clearly being a bit bigger, but I've never found it to be of any relevance when playing - the scope models can be obstructive on some weapons, or cluttered, but this seems fine to me.
Love my eddy current onslaught roll Hopefully get an ec+jolting feedback or attrition+jolting soon Also got a frag focus+target lock for if I decide to touch pvp for the first time since like into the light
I got one with small bore, high caliber rounds, fragile focus, kill clip and with a range master work. I think that's pretty close to a God roll if not. Got pretty lucky.
Someone I know said they got rewind rounds in the 3rd column. I've also heard that all the perks for the dungeon weapons aren't showing in the database yet. Can anyone confirm?
i'm very surprised to hear that the jolt counts as weapon damage for the origin perk and attrition orbs. i really could've sworn that jolt didn't work like that. is it just destabilizing rounds i'm thinking of? i thought it was both.
all of the damn subclass verbs are inconsistent across the board in terms of what they trigger, what they apply towards, what they count as, etc. I don’t blame you for being confused, since nothing seems to work like you would think!
great review as always, altho i disagree with your take on it possibly surpassing summoner. it is a decent pvp auto, but summoner having zen moment will always make it better. zen moment removing the majority of reticle bounce on 600s is so important for pvp in my opinion. that being said, i am on mnk, so maybe it feels different on controller
it’ll take you a super long time to get an auto rifle drop that beats your current god roll, unless you’re extremely lucky. I’d say you’re good to go :) Eddy Current / Jolting Feedback is what I settled on for my roll, it’s a lot of fun and the two perks synergize together very well.
I've got kill clip/killing wind and a target lock fragile focus both feel great I use the fragile target lock more thought as it has better barrel, mag and m.w so it feels better overall for 1v1 but it absolutely shreds
i don't play dungeons for the most part, gonna just wait til the new arc smg drops. it comes with jolying feedback as well. this auto looks great though
thank you for watching! thoughts on it?
dont see much of a point in running it over vantage point when its overcharged (25%) while autos are not and dark ether origin trait is so good. dying to hear your thoughts on sanguine alchemy a lot of ppl are using it for boss dps but the neutral game is extremely strong as well especially on arc
Definitely a mule of a weapon in the HUD too much bulk for my liking. Also I am jealous of the PVP lobbies you are getting, people practically running at you wanting to get hit.
I was initially just going to entirely pass over it (I already got the one roll of demo/chain on the dungeon fusion I wanted and it was the only one that immediately came to mind) but after you mentioned strategist/jolting feedback, I thought about a build from ATP I've been trying out lately (essentially Gifted Conviction on Prismatic-Ascension Hunter and realized Strategist/Jolting Feedback on this gun would pair really well with this build; looks like I'm going back in to grind it more).
Can there be a gun that is craftable and gets Jolting feedback?
Ah yes the Zhalo minicell. One day you’ll come back to me..
Real ones remember Zhalo. My Hunter loved that thing...
@@Gr4veM1nd real ones remember the bridge of thrall leading to alak hul. Zhalo in its most beautiful form.
@jvsilky nah beginning of that one splicer nightfall with the blind ogre at the end
Zhalo😢
if this gun had subsistence it would literally be a 1:1 legendary zhallo lol. Kinda sad it doesn’t have it ngl
I assumed Jolting Feedback needed consistent damage on the same target to proc. It just activating on the 16th bullet on ANY number of enemies within a small timeframe is a game changer. I'll have to give it a go!
I love it on the new revenant pulse
Me too. But til it's same same, but different.
They should give centrifuse jolting feedback. It fits perfectly into its whole staying amplified thing.
@themccman that and or a mag buff. It has a drum mag but has no ammo to kill anything
Gun feels awful the mag doesn't refresh nearly as fast as it needs and it doesn't refresh while sliding which is whta most of us do constantly.
They should make it when amplified killing enemies with explosions refills the mag alah subsistence.@@gambeano
@@fotis3v480most of us do not slide constantly
Yeah, things a disappointing version of Riskrunner. No arc exotic compares, more so now on titan with the Peacekeepers change.
Can't understate how much Sanguine Alchemy healing rifts and Riskrunner will carry your fireteams. Bring a sword with Energy Transfer
Centrifuse needs a full rework. Needing to always be sprinting or sliding is a HUGE cost for a mag that doesnt even refill as quickly as it needs to be. Its a worse Riskrunner
13:03 Gun so good it made you unlock arc subclass and solar for good measure since this gun is straight fire
This gun with Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback is the perfect primary for the newest Warlock exotic, Rime-coat whatever.
Devour+Arcane Needle+Facet of Dawn+Facet of Solitude. Place your turret domain, melee and start shooting: enemies will slow, freeze, shatter, jolt and be both severed and unraveled, while you're radiant. It's crazy good and carries my solo dungeon runs, especially in second encounter (just add Lost Signal and an Wardcliff Coil and you're good to go for a chill run tbh).
Good intel this
Yup. Have this exact roll and it has been a lot of fun to use.
Dim link to your build ?
Dim link fo build ?
Been loving my eddy current/jolting feedback roll
The guardians yearn for zhalo supercell
It's already in the game has been since launch
@@iouplayyy9191 riskrunner is an impostor and has committed tax fraud
Most fun I’ve had with an auto since the Gnawing Hunger days.
High praise ..
Loved the hunger in its day 👍🏻
people are saying "oh this auto blocks my vision" i say "this piece of art rightly demands my attention"
I assume you’re also a fan of the base model of Collective Obligation too?
For real, the four dungeon guns are some of the best looking legendaries they've ever made. The Deepstone Crypt weapons are the best-looking guns they've ever made imo, these weapons are a worthy successor.
@@beeman4266 someone sees the vision
clovis bray, for all his *numerous* faults, had quite the artistic eye
@@midgetmasher166 never understood people who say guns are too big that’s the fucking point brother. Big booms
It's so aesthetic that it deserves the screen space and makes me feel good. I feel good, I play better.
I would have loved to have seen jolting feedback and onslaught such a missed opportunity
Usually they'll do the crazy perk combos with new perks at a later date. Usually on better guns as well. Imagine a 720 auto with those perks 🥹
@@TheDeadb3arvery true! I think that’s a wise move by Bungie. Can’t start at S tier and expect people to want a B tier gun grind later on.
jolting feedback is such an upgrade over the voltshot perk by a insane margin, volt shot only giving one shot that applies jolt and you can only to it after a kill, it just feels bad to use
it desperately needs a change something along the lines of Magnificent Howl e.g. for every kill you get before reloading grants you a "charged shot" on reloading you get a number of "volt rounds" that each cause a jolt and hitting a jolted target spreads it to nearby enemies, and get more "charged shots" for killing higher tier enemies.
Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback make it feel like an exotic. It's the closest thing to Zhalo Supercell from D1. That alone is why people want attrition orbs, instead of generating super energy you generate an orb which is more or less the same thing
Say what you will about attrition orbs but i have it with jolting feedback and after playing with it i dont see it leaving my inventory any time soon
I agree. Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback are such a good combo. I've got a other one with Eddy Current/Jolting Feedback but the ability to make so many orbs that feed into the blinding artifact perk make it my go to this season
I got lucky and that was my first drop I got, immediately Enhanced it when I saw that combo together.
Literally shoot the gun, jolt targets and shit orbs. I just got it and I’m stoked.
just have to say it...for me this is the best channel for weapon reviews because it has so much in depth info for pve and pvp..keep up the great work
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy...👊
My first roll was attrition orbs and jolting feedback and I've been using it everywhere
I was waiting for you to speak on this because I saw what you saw. I managed to get the 390 pulse with Eddy Current/Jolting Feedback, but the god roll for this still aludes me. It's definitely a beast of weapon and with the synergy mod plus the artifact perk you get a lot of ionic traces to stack onto the origin trait.
They need to add weapon and perk attuning for weapons that aren’t craftable. Like for Vespers you can attune the auto rifle and attune one of the two perks from the 1st and 2nd column and one of the two perks from the 3rd and 4th column
Looking for Fragile Focus(or To The Pain) with Closing Time for PvP personally. High magazine means it's fine to drop the first half into a wall and have 24 bullets left with Closing Time active for all of it. Should hit about 100 range and handling, plus the accuracy boost is huge.
Dropped mine with Strat/Jolting last Saturday. This thing is awesome and is now my go-to arc weapon in PvE 👍🏻
I just got the strategist and jolting feedback roll and I’m loving it so far
This gun slaps. I’ve a got an attrition orbs + jolting feedback roll, and a killing wind + kill clip roll as well.
Loving strategist on this with jolting feedback. I use it for my vesper build. Insane. Think I found a replacement for my indebted kindness.
when you have Gifted Conviction, it basically gives you resist x2 every 12 bullets lol. Free DR
My current build is built around gifted conviction 😏
What do u pair with pyroelectric propellant, like heavy wise and special wise for pve?
@@Saix1031 the stasis GL for fast dark gauge and anarchy for heavy
@@panadaji471 gotcha, thanks :)
Great review as always! I'm really liking the scopes on these weapons, even the fusion, which I wouldn't have expected before using it. I'm definitely hoping to get my hands on eddy current + jolting feedback for a raiju's build on hunter for a bit of spice in endgame pve. I'm sure it'll happen right after I roll envious + BnS on the gl and unicorns return to the wild
I have a decent strategist/jolting feedback. It is so fun.
Sidebar: the reissued Crucible sidearm has eddy current/voltshot. It feels so smooth mowing through adds.
Name?
@@faridronin Autum Anonymous or something to affect. It's the one that can be farmed for 1 Crucible Engram per draw this episode.
Never taking this weapon off and can’t wait for iron banner so I can get the new stasis rocket sidearm with chill clip 😮 jolting and freezing everything
My 2nd drop was the auto rifle w/ hammer, ricochet, fragile and kill clip w/ a range MW. Amazing and it surprised me on the range, and how it out dueled most autos and hand cannons.
Just farm the 2nd checkpoint and dont give up it will drop. I love autorifles and this one is amazing and A LOT OF FUN TO USE.
Love your content brother, keep it coming! 🍻
just got my personal godroll, Smallbore ricochet fragile focus kill clip w/ stability masterwork, can't wait to take it for a spin
Strategist/jolting feedback, prismatic ascension 👌👌👌 been super fun
Had to go here... As per your title, in the wise words of Deadpool, perhaps it would be "Maximum effort with Hero results" lol... Just watched Deadpool and Wolverine, so the second I saw your title, it popped into my head... lol. Hope you're feeling well young man. My best to you and yours, always.
I got a good first roll target lock and to the pain and kill clip with Eddy current
Got 2 of these, 1 with kw and target lock with range master work and one with strategist and jolting feedback. Can’t remember the mw on that one but the target lock roll absolutely shreds in pvp
my first roll of this auto was strategist and onslaught. lots of fun and love the model of these weapons
Hey brother, hope everything is going well with your health and personal life. Can't wait for the anonymous autumn review. That thing is a beast with adagio.
great review man
Are you gonna do a video on the fusion? That thing COOKS🔥🔥🔥My new favorite pvp fusion
I got one to drop the other night. It has Killing Wind/Onslaught. Feels supreme. I love it.
Welp, I need this beast ASAP. I forget, are newest dungeons are farmable (minus Exotic)?
Just got one with jolting feedback and eddy current! Haven’t gotten the chance to run it just yet, but it’s seems crazy!
I won’t stop grinding for this one until I get one with jolting feedback. I love it on the season pulse.
I just got Fragile Focus, KC roll with a Range MW, and I'm excited to try it out
Thank god for this vid - I have the strategist / JF roll sitting in my vault labeled as infusion fodder. whew! 😅
Glad to see a 600 with good perks.
I definitely want a Jolting Feedback roll, just a matter of what to pair with it, Attrition Orbs or Strategist?
Eddy current and jolting feedback have uptime on max reload to have max jolt for pve
@@brandonbrock2216 You make a compelling argument, but I rarely use arc (or prismatic), so getting amplified isn't happening.
So, I'd prefer a perk that's subclass agnostic (or doesn't require sprinting).
hope you’re feeling well!! love ya boss
do you love me? 😊
Just got it to drop with eddy current and jolting feedback. Im in love lol
Synergy with this and geomags COOKS
I’d say Enhanced Jolting Feedback is viable for builds that don’t use amplify, since it reduces the number of bullets required from 16 to 15 which in a 60 round mag will apply jolt one more time than base
My biggest issue with this AR is the size of the model. Feels like it blocks half your screen.
Yeah, has the same problem as the vex AR from the last season
I'm genuinely curious, are you playing on a small screen?
I can see the model clearly being a bit bigger, but I've never found it to be of any relevance when playing - the scope models can be obstructive on some weapons, or cluttered, but this seems fine to me.
@MGShadow1989 I play on a 34 inch curved monitor and it still blocks literally a third of my screen, it's huge.
Compare bygones to this gun it’s night and day
I'll never understand this complaint when you're always ADS'ing to shoot anyways. The reticle is clear, who cares?
Can't wait for the reckless oracle review :3
Great review as always dude! How's the ol' ticker doing? Still feeling good? Hope all is well
Could you do a review on the new bygones, would like to hear your take on it.
Close enough, welcome back Zhalo.
Love my eddy current onslaught roll
Hopefully get an ec+jolting feedback or attrition+jolting soon
Also got a frag focus+target lock for if I decide to touch pvp for the first time since like into the light
i have both the pve and pvp godroll and as for pvp to the pain and ons is BY FAR the best combination available
CoolGuy, could you do a video on what weapons are worth enhancing?
Why not a volt shot, jolt feedback roll?🤔
I have one with eddy current + jolting feedback with 80 recoil and I confirm that it feels amazing
This with subsistence.. or a 720 with this and like cascade or onslaught would be insane
This looks cool, but I don’t have it. My favorite arc auto rifle I have is probably Dark Decider from Iron Banner with voltshot.
I've been really wanting to get this with jolting feedback, but it feels like the auto just refuses to drop now lol
Really like these weapon models. yes they are reskinned but still changes from the original and really looks scifi
I got one with small bore, high caliber rounds, fragile focus, kill clip and with a range master work. I think that's pretty close to a God roll if not. Got pretty lucky.
Does jolting feedback proc crown of tempest buff ?
How are you guys getting this weapon? I am only getting armor out of this dungeon.
swash and Fragile is the roll for pvp for sure, it out stats summoner and it MELTS
I got strategist and jolting feedback... I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT.....
looking forward to the updated chroma rush pvp review
i got 'to the pain' & jolting feedback' is it a keeper? i like the feels so far
then keep it! you don’t need to keep farming just because a creator has a different god roll. just use what feels good
Damn want this weapon but need a group to do this.
Someone I know said they got rewind rounds in the 3rd column. I've also heard that all the perks for the dungeon weapons aren't showing in the database yet. Can anyone confirm?
Pyroelectric Propellant does not roll with Rewind Rounds. your friend is a liar lol! database should be fully up to date at this point in time.
i'm very surprised to hear that the jolt counts as weapon damage for the origin perk and attrition orbs. i really could've sworn that jolt didn't work like that. is it just destabilizing rounds i'm thinking of? i thought it was both.
all of the damn subclass verbs are inconsistent across the board in terms of what they trigger, what they apply towards, what they count as, etc. I don’t blame you for being confused, since nothing seems to work like you would think!
I hope they make Kinetic Tremors work like Jolting Feedback.
great review as always, altho i disagree with your take on it possibly surpassing summoner. it is a decent pvp auto, but summoner having zen moment will always make it better. zen moment removing the majority of reticle bounce on 600s is so important for pvp in my opinion. that being said, i am on mnk, so maybe it feels different on controller
What the heck. This is exactly what I need.
Literally my first AR drop was Killing Wind/Kill Clip.
If it makes you feel any better, the mag and masterwork could be better…
Only got two of these one has Strategist and swashbuckler.
I Have arrowhead brake, armos piersing round, eddy current, and jolting feedback. Good enough??
it’ll take you a super long time to get an auto rifle drop that beats your current god roll, unless you’re extremely lucky. I’d say you’re good to go :)
Eddy Current / Jolting Feedback is what I settled on for my roll, it’s a lot of fun and the two perks synergize together very well.
Imma be honest. I still have no idea what deterministic recoil does. 80 is the most vertical on this weapon?? Even better than 100? 😅
I've got kill clip/killing wind and a target lock fragile focus both feel great I use the fragile target lock more thought as it has better barrel, mag and m.w so it feels better overall for 1v1 but it absolutely shreds
I like my eddy currrent onslaught it slays.
Can dungeon encounters be farmed right now or is it once per character per week until it’s in the weekly rotation? I can never remember
Newest dungeon can be farmed 😊
Love the look of it, early gang
Imagine if you could get jolting feed back AND onslaught on this?! Missed opportunity
I've got the attrition orbs and jolting feedback combo and love it.
Does it come with rewind rounds and jolting feedback?
I want this with attrition and jolting feedback. Probably will never get it tho
My problem with it that you can pair anything with target lock
i don't play dungeons for the most part, gonna just wait til the new arc smg drops. it comes with jolying feedback as well. this auto looks great though
Apparently jolting feedback won’t be good on smg’s
Strategist jolting feedback with gifted conviction is super fun, farming bygones in gambit i had Ascension up after like 4 ad kills its so silly
I want to see jolting feedback and voltshot lol
Every machinegun with voltshot should be replaced with jolting feedback
i got the same perks on mine and it’s sooo good
They cooked with the dungeon weapons
GUY, YOU ARE SO COOL!
Is vespers host farmable?
sheesh you were slaying out in this background footage