Dr B is a phenomenally educated individual with an unselfish eagerness to share information with all. Much admiration. I could listen to him for hours! Thankyou Chris!
The most amazing show tonight. In seventeen years on RUclips, I haven't ever learned and been inspired so much, going through the highs and lows of humanity. Left me with a feeling of hope for the future. Grateful.
I completely agree with you, and I feel so moved and so honored, deep in my soul tonight. Thank you, gentlemen and listeners, for sharing so much love and and so much truth.
Agree! Best of true crime on You Tube all year was TIR tonight! LOVE the discussion regarding the intersection between the culture, good/evil, psychology, theology and humanity. Chris and Dr. B, please continue to bring your personal insights and perspectives as they relate to where all of those themes listed above intersect bc that mix (esp. including theology and the nature of humanity) is rare in the true crime world and it is what is missing in understanding these crimes and our culture. There can be no love without injustice. I cannot love this enough, and if equal affection cannot be.. .love that quote. Dr. B should seriously write a book on some of his own reflections shared tonight that interweaves his musings on culture/theology and all that he’s studied about the human condition. Please get this man a Ted Talk and a podcast!❤ I say this and yet selfishly I know that will mean he will be less available for TIR and Q&A! Oh, and thanks Chris for allowing Dr. B to talk about theology, God and what’s currently wrong with the victim mentality in today’s culture without fear of the woke mob!
I left my husband in 1970 because of DV. I had a 6 week old son at the time. I did not remarry, fearing that I’d have more children with a second husband, thus putting my first child in an ‘also ran’ position, which could ruin his life. When I read Matt Perry’s so sad story, which featured this type of situation, when i hear Eliot Roger’s biography, I know it was the right course.
Thank you for being a good mother and doing the right thing. It's extremely rare to see a parent put a child's well-being first in this day and age. Most people shouldn't even be parents. God bless you.
I feel so lucky to be able to listen to and learn from these people who are such geniuses in their areas of expertise. Chris I’m in awe of when he’s in detective mode. Dr Brucato, Ann B. and others who share their knowledge generously are so valuable to society as we struggle to make sense of chaos.
Wow. This was quite a journey. Also, this week has been amazing for me personally. Soft quiet spiritual reassurance three times and now the challenge from Dr. Bruccato..on not worrying about inequity and fairness and going the extra. Chris and Karen, your son has shown all of us that miracles do happen. To you all and friends and families, peace and joy.
What an insightful show!! Thank you Chris & Dr. Gary for covering difficult (sometimes horrific) subject matter with respectful & thoughtful dialogue. I appreciate you both taking the time to address these topics in such detail. I can’t get over the breadth of knowledge Dr. Gary has, and that he shares it with us so freely. And Chris, with your LE background, it gives us perspectives from many angles, which is so helpful. Happy New Year, and I hope you both have a blessed & hope-filled 2024!
2:37:28 DrB is funny and quick witted on top of being a genius. Chris has such a great way of guiding the chat and discussion. And the friendship between these two accomplished well spoken men is awesome, they both have humility that is often lacking online.
I see/recognize you from chats regard the Dab Markel/Adelson trials, Katie Cooladady,STS and many more! What are your other fav True Crime YT channels?
Just wanted to express my gratitude to Chris and Dr. Brucato. What a wonderful way to ring in 2024- a brilliant, insightful analysis and discussion. The most intelligent, and welcoming, true crime community on RUclips. Thank you!
Dr Brucato's description of modes and identity and what we're seeing in current culture and new evil is so enlightening. This helps understand what we all feel and see is going on but I've never heard it described this way. Really important to explore this further in the Internet age.
Thank you Dr. B for making sense of all the senseless “new evil” that for many of us has become terrifying and bewildering. I understand it much better having listened to your wisdom.
Chris, I’m so sorry your family and the others involved experienced such a traumatic event. I can’t even imagine how horrific it was. Prayers for comfort and healing to all.
Yep. And can be from both political parties. Best to be independent-minded and try to become a critical thinking. We all are vulnerable, even and perhaps especially educated people.
Thank you Chris for bringing Dr Gary on. I would love to see Dr Gary have his own show or become a weekly regular. You two are fantastic together, great conversations, interesting perspectives from informed individuals that understand, how badly we want to understand.
As the fireworks exploded at midnight I was watching the last 7 mins. Dr Brucato spoke, and I cried. In my mind everyone in the world was listening to your words.
I would like to say that for me….this has been the best podcast so far! It is clear that Chris and Dr. B have an extraordinary relationship and I for one can say that this was the best 3 hours that I have spent in a very long time! It would be wonderful to listen to Dr.B all day ! He is intelligent ,informative and interesting and beyond that,wise beyond his years! His insight as well as Chris’s insight is more than amazing! I was shocked when Chris said ….quote “Thank you for spending the last 3 hours with us”! I was so involved in the subject that I didn’t even notice! To Dr. Brucato! You do not “JABBER “😊 ! Everything you say has..as we Germans say..Hand and Foot..which really means that everything you say is meaningful in one way or the other! It is a true pleasure and honor to listen to you and if I lived in the US I would not hesitate for one second to come and hear you speak anywhere! Unfortunately I reside in France which makes this impossible! To Chris! Thank for your insight,kindness and compassion! I appreciate the chance to get insight into a life of a true hero and one of the world’s best detectives! I wish I could do something to help in your cause for the cold case foundation other than financial! I have been following true crime longer than RUclips has become so popular! At closing I would like to wish all of you,including mods and families ,a prosperous New Year and a very happy 2024!!! I truly love and admire all of you Thank you again Dr Brucato,!!❤ 1:48 By the way ! At the moment we are sitting in an RV in the middle of the Black Forest for the holidays🎉,
I'd also like to reply to Dr Brucato's question about how many women have experienced misogyny. I won't detail every incident, as I could fill a notebook but they include being sexually assaulted in a taxi and on a bus (the latter involved the police). Being stabbed in the neck in broad daylight by a complete stranger who attacked me after saying to me 'I don't like your hair.' I went to the police and they did nothing. I've been followed in the street more than once, verbally abused by men as I walk past without me engaging with them at all. I've had men perform 'acts' while sitting next to me on public transport and standing at bus stops. I was followed home from school every day at the age of 13 by the same young man who'd wait for me in the same place. I was strangled by my friend's brother in a sudden attack that came out of nowhere. In the latter two cases, the men were known to be mentally ill. My friend's brother was later diagnosed with schizophrenia. The person who followed me I later discovered was the adopted brother of a girl at my school. Apparently he drowned her hamsters. And as far as covert misogyny, I am regularly dismissed because I'm female, whether in relationships, or professionally, or even just speaking to companies on the phone, it happens as a matter of course. I expect discrimination. I fear it. It's like a giant wall you can't get over. There are 3 men within a street of me who behave in a predatory way that makes me nervous. My instinct knows. And one directly next door whose abuse I have to live with every day. The police can't do anything because he makes sure I don't have a witness, he knows how to stay within the law. The law is virtually powerless to help women until it is already too late. I am perhaps drawing a connection here without being able to cite research, but the number of women and men I know who are childhood victims of abuse is off the scale. And I don't live within a risk taking or 'bad' community. On the contrary. They are just people I know from school, through activities and projects. Again, the worst thing is the silence. Very often, You Tube is the only place I can hear these discussions as it makes people so uncomfortable to do any kind of deep analysis into the causes. And I thank Chris and Gary and everyone at the interview room for bringing these conversations into the light in a fair, thoughtful and respectful way. I have only been watching a little while but I found it so helpful.
I have watched this episode 3 times and I'm amazed at how Dr. Brucato treats these topics. He is a true gem of knowledge. Chris, thank you so much for bringing us professionals like Dr. B. Fascinating! Hope you had a wonderful start of the year.
Dr Brocato, I feel so lucky to hear and absorb your wise advice. This forum is a safe and calm space which Chris takes such care to provide. Thank you both. From New Zealand.
I rewatch this when I need a humanity “pick me up.” It is a beautiful discussion of a horrid topic-that’s hard to accomplish. Dr. B, please don’t let any comment about the recent press event get you down. If you are listened to, your messages are loud and clear and always well meaning. Your enlightened and extensively researched comments are appreciated. Thank you Chris and Dr B very much -always great, uplifting content. I’m enjoying “The New Evil.”
One of the best tc shows I've ever watched here today. Dr Gary always has so much fascinating thoughts and knowledge to give on this subject. I could watch this every day. Thanks for the great content.
Just found this today and I am already tearing up. God Bless you guys for all you do and for dealing with this evil every day. I don't know how you all keep your sanity when surrounded by this, but God Bless You again for doing it.
Thank you both so much. This was the perfect way to ring in 2024. With learning, humor, wisdom, safety, respect, and kindness. You two are the very best!
Also! I know Dr Brucato gets tons of praise here bc it’s quite obvious he is extremely blessed w intelligence and the will the fight this battle but I just want to say … @theinterviewroom Chris, you are the humble and silent saint. We are def blessed w the dr. Through you and I have looked a bit into your work and you also have a tale to tell. I don’t know what you believe in but I choose to call him god, brought us two incredible humble men to enlighten us and help us understand and what they both have done for families and the world, I don’t know if humanity has a word for it. Thank you Chris for keeping faith when others maybe couldn’t. And thank you both for shining a light in the darkness. Bless you both
This is still my all time favorite episode! Although it’s hard to choose, as I’ve listened to most episodes multiple times! Love you Chris & Dr Gary. God brought you two together!
I could listen to you guys talk all day. I can't get over how brilliant and humble Dr. Gary Brucato is (don't worry Chris, you're brilliant too ☺️). Thank you for sharing this with the world.
Best thing I could've done with my day. Happy New Year! Remember your grammar. "Let's eat Grandpa" went around the internet world a bit ago. To remind us that commas save lives. "Let's eat, Grandpa" That's for you Dr Gary!
I had two female teachers who taught me, and their classes, how to be open-minded yet remain a critical thinker. Whatever our natural viewpoint on a topic, we would have an assignment to write detailed papers on the opposite side of our beliefs. For example, if you were pro-abortion or pro-death penalty, you'd be required to write the paper on why being anti-abortion or anti-death penalty made sense.
Dr Brucato, thank you for such amazing content!! I’m going to watch this show again it was so good. Chris, thank you for your expertise with all these crazy people too.
Thank you for describing what happened to your son it must have been very traumatising for you. I pray you & your family are ok after what happened. Prayers for the victims families who got killed on that day ❤🙏I hope you all have a peaceful happy 2024❤
I’m late to the party 🎉sooo pleased to have found this!! You two are amazing. Your knowledge,experience combined with your passion and compassion are outstanding. Chris, thank God for your son! I’m so sorry he had to experience such an event, delighted he survived it. I acknowledge the trauma you and your lovely wife experienced too. Just love what you all do at the IR. I’ve learned so much about a subject that is close to my heart in more ways than one. Happy 2024 to all, happy birthday to Dr Gary. I love the book! When I hear him speak it puts chapters in the book come alive for me. Health and happiness to all from Bonnie Scotland 🏴 ❤
Great quote from Auden and particularly relevant for 2024. I could listen to Dr Gary for hours and I do, very erudite and he goes to the top of my list for calling out misogyny in such a strident manner. Happy New Year :))
Rewatching this because it is so utterly interesting. Thank you so much gentlemen for this great way to spend my evening. And yes, i liked the Dalmers Pizza joke !! Slowly getting through Dr Brucato's book ......... just trying to soak it all in. LOVE it Always a great program when the two of you are on. And Dr Ramsland too !!
Chris- Thank you for sharing your story and partnering with Dr B. I just got the chills, 💯 DIVINE INTERVENTION! No coincidences w/elevator, office and your previous colleague.🕯️🙏
Chris, what case do you still carry the most? I can’t imagine doing what you do. 7 years I found my friend gone by 5uicide. It was horrific, bloody mess. Terrifying for me. It changed my life. Forever. I will never forget that scene. It’s still vivid. I did seek a trauma therapist and a support group. The support group was the best help. Stick with a support group in losses. I can’t tell everyone here how much you need to go for at least 4 years. I now help others who experience this kind of loss. Mention them every show. They have many types of support groups. It will help and in such positive ways. I can’t imagine seeing what I saw or worse all the time. My appreciation for law enforcement, first responders and the military members is forever changed. Thank you for all you do for us. 3:14:25 right here….gary is talking about it. I turned to helping others more than I already did. Great words Gary on turning darkness to light.❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you. Thank you for sharing your “ gifts”. Personally, as a healthcare professional and animal rescuer , I certainly can relate to the need for compassion and strength when facing “ life and death” situations. This helped me refocus on the gifts I’ve been given. My identity. My meaning in life. God Bless.
Dr. Brucato, im halfway through where youre talking about how people are grasping for identity. Ive had this concept flowing around in my head for a long time (especially recently 🙃) but you really helped me put words to the phenomena im seeing and why im seeing so many people so easily ignore and throw away morals they supposedly had, and why they are so blind to what theyre doing. The massive scale of people who are doing that has been one of the biggest shocks to me recently. Im part of the groups of people you mentioned earlier who grew up with a definite religion/culture/identity, so maybe thats why ive been so baffled about this phenomena. I would love for you to have a whole show about identity issues, Internet "groupthink" (idk what to call it), and why/how so many people are so willing to ignore facts that they would otherwise listen to. Thanks for all you do!
Also, you mention "brittle" people. Would the opposite of that be "resilient" people? Applying this to the identity talk, is this formed in like a nature vs nurture type way, or both, or neither? Like, would something like generational trauma play a part in this? I feel like I come from a family of "resilient" people so I really wish I can understand how the other side comes to be. I hope this makes sense lol.
Dr Gary what a pleasure it is to listen to your absolutely fascinating insight. This was a fantastic show. I love your references to Sherlock. Thanks to Chris for hosting this brilliant mind.
I am listening to this program for a second time. I am next going to read the two books cited and now downloaded on Audible. I have so many thoughts and questions. Thank you for this In- depth discussion of mass shootings within our American culture.
I truly appreciate what you guys are doing here. I'm a sociologist at heart and what you do helps me to make sense of these challenging times. I missed the live, but wanted to chime in on your poll - I used to work in security monitoring, and I witnessed a school shooting through security cameras. I was a safe distance away and in no danger what so ever, but still, I was affected. I'm not comparing my experience to those who lost loved ones, feared for their lives, or had to cope with the aftermath. Just seeing it was so awful that I can't imagine the nightmare for those who were present or directly affected.
This has given me new ways of thinking about some questions I have been tousling about with recently. I always appreciate getting to learn from everyone. Thank you always for using your platform for good against the new evil (see what I did there? ) much much love to everyone
One of the best episodes ever. (Missed the live but just finished the replay.) Very educational and insightful. Thank you Chris and Dr Brucato for giving of your time and sharing your knowledge so freely, and for sharing how you find the light outside the darkness. 🖤
What an amazing show! My heart is full with appreciation and I am humbled by both of you. I hope you know how important and impactful you’ve all been (TIR) in so many lives. Peace and blessings to everyone 💕🙏
I read one of those profiling books by the Mindhunter guys. It was fascinating. This is like bringing that to real life in our modern society. They cover old cases that they were a part of in those books. But Dr. Gary is so knowledgeable about the cases that we are all following today. I would love to see an episode or two on the zodiac case. It’s always intrigued me and I thought that they had solved it. But I guess I’m wrong on that. I’m wondering if you guys ever think they will? Thanks so much for a great show and happy new year to each and everyone of you. May the Lord bless your year ahead.
Yes, the best stream I have ever seen on true crime after more than 2 years of close following. Thank you both for an incredible presentation and loving, wise comments…
Great show as always gentlemen. Great to hear Dr. Brucato as usual. Chris even better for you having him on sir. Much enjoyed. There’s so much to learn here. It’s like a special session of free knowledge.
Gosh I relate to what you said so much Chris, around the 3 hour mark. That feeling when something greater than you is guiding you to say the right words to reach someone who needs it.... it's unreal. Incredible. Thank you for putting it into words.
This was very interesting. Some of the angles are what I've not previously thought of - it's also important that we try our best to include and lend a listening ear to people who may not be like us. I very much enjoyed listening to your mini seminars; thank you for uploading the video...i'd missed the live session due to traveling but am glad to be able to watch it.
3:10:43 “the only way to deal with it is to get to the healing” I am a pediatrician who has plenty of PTSD from the child abuse and child cancer wards I observed during my inner city residency and early career- would love to communicate more on the personal aspect of observing the worst of human suffering and evil afflicted on innocents and still retaining compassion and joy
1:48:30 I could listen to Dr B discuss post modernism implications on psychology for hours. At times he makes deep theological points that remind me of some Dominican discussions. Wonder if he could be a Lay Dominican. Thanks for another amazing show.
Chris’s and Dr. Brucato’s losses and compassion make them the best orators for the victims in all the cases they discuss. Their intelligence and experience helps us understand the perpetrators.
Thank you Chris & Dr Brucato. Lets get Dr Brucato a Ted Talk.... I was thrilled TIR was doing a New Years Eve show. Love Dr Brucato, hope to see him at Crime Con next year. Happy New Year !!!! Dr Brucato's words of wisdom made me tear up.
Dr B is a phenomenally educated individual with an unselfish eagerness to share information with all. Much admiration. I could listen to him for hours! Thankyou Chris!
Yes! Same.
Me too! And Chris has so much experience. They are the dream team! Plus, when Dr Ann is there too - I’m in my element! Happy new year, all! 🤍
@@ShakerMaker1980 I couldn't agree with you more. They are all amazing and have exceptional core values adding to their dream team vibes!
Same!
The most amazing show tonight. In seventeen years on RUclips, I haven't ever learned and been inspired so much, going through the highs and lows of humanity. Left me with a feeling of hope for the future. Grateful.
Wow, thank you!
I agree, the best show ever.@@TheInterviewRoom
Thank yall for every program yall do! Always interesting!
I completely agree with you, and I feel so moved and so honored, deep in my soul tonight. Thank you, gentlemen and listeners, for sharing so much love and and so much truth.
Agree! Best of true crime on You Tube all year was TIR tonight! LOVE the discussion regarding the intersection between the culture, good/evil, psychology, theology and humanity. Chris and Dr. B, please continue to bring your personal insights and perspectives as they relate to where all of those themes listed above intersect bc that mix (esp. including theology and the nature of humanity) is rare in the true crime world and it is what is missing in understanding these crimes and our culture. There can be no love without injustice. I cannot love this enough, and if equal affection cannot be.. .love that quote. Dr. B should seriously write a book on some of his own reflections shared tonight that interweaves his musings on culture/theology and all that he’s studied about the human condition. Please get this man a Ted Talk and a podcast!❤ I say this and yet selfishly I know that will mean he will be less available for TIR and Q&A! Oh, and thanks Chris for allowing Dr. B to talk about theology, God and what’s currently wrong with the victim mentality in today’s culture without fear of the woke mob!
I left my husband in 1970 because of DV. I had a 6 week old son at the time. I did not remarry, fearing that I’d have more children with a second husband, thus putting my first child in an ‘also ran’ position, which could ruin his life. When I read Matt Perry’s so sad story, which featured this type of situation, when i hear Eliot Roger’s biography, I know it was the right course.
Thank you for being a good mother and doing the right thing. It's extremely rare to see a parent put a child's well-being first in this day and age. Most people shouldn't even be parents. God bless you.
I feel so lucky to be able to listen to and learn from these people who are such geniuses in their areas of expertise. Chris I’m in awe of when he’s in detective mode. Dr Brucato, Ann B. and others who share their knowledge generously are so valuable to society as we struggle to make sense of chaos.
Wow. This was quite a journey. Also, this week has been amazing for me personally. Soft quiet spiritual reassurance three times and now the challenge from Dr. Bruccato..on not worrying about inequity and fairness and going the extra. Chris and Karen, your son has shown all of us that miracles do happen. To you all and friends and families, peace and joy.
I just sat through 3.5 hours of this and I literally could rewatch it again right now. I love that you have Dr B on so much, I learn so much.
Dr. Gary hands down has the BEST laugh.
This is absolutely relevant to our everyday life and safety. Thank you Chris and Dr B for addressing this in detail. ❤
Dr Gary B. My sister gave me your book for Christmas! Best gift ever! I have so much respect for you!
What an insightful show!! Thank you Chris & Dr. Gary for covering difficult (sometimes horrific) subject matter with respectful & thoughtful dialogue. I appreciate you both taking the time to address these topics in such detail. I can’t get over the breadth of knowledge Dr. Gary has, and that he shares it with us so freely. And Chris, with your LE background, it gives us perspectives from many angles, which is so helpful.
Happy New Year, and I hope you both have a blessed & hope-filled 2024!
What a wonderful gift to be able to listen to Dr. Brucato on New Years morning. Thank you to Chris and Gary. I wish you all a beautiful 2024.
2:37:28 DrB is funny and quick witted on top of being a genius. Chris has such a great way of guiding the chat and discussion. And the friendship between these two accomplished well spoken men is awesome, they both have humility that is often lacking online.
I see/recognize you from chats regard the Dab Markel/Adelson trials, Katie Cooladady,STS and many more!
What are your other fav True Crime YT channels?
Just wanted to express my gratitude to Chris and Dr. Brucato. What a wonderful way to ring in 2024- a brilliant, insightful analysis and discussion. The most intelligent, and welcoming, true crime community on RUclips. Thank you!
Dr Brucato's description of modes and identity and what we're seeing in current culture and new evil is so enlightening. This helps understand what we all feel and see is going on but I've never heard it described this way. Really important to explore this further in the Internet age.
Thanks, Chris, for sharing Dr. Gary with us.
Love Dr. Gary Brucato. Best guest on the RUclips!
I have absolutely no idea why, but thanks 😊
Thank you Dr. B for making sense of all the senseless “new evil” that for many of us has become terrifying and bewildering. I understand it much better having listened to your wisdom.
I could listen to you and dr brucato all day man my younger self would love to be right beside you guys learning from you and also Dr Ann.
Chris, I’m so sorry your family and the others involved experienced such a traumatic event. I can’t even imagine how horrific it was. Prayers for comfort and healing to all.
What a show! What Dr. Gary says explains so much about our current political landscape and our susceptibility to a demagogue.
Yep. And can be from both political parties. Best to be independent-minded and try to become a critical thinking. We all are vulnerable, even and perhaps especially educated people.
Thank you Chris for bringing Dr Gary on. I would love to see Dr Gary have his own show or become a weekly regular. You two are fantastic together, great conversations, interesting perspectives from informed individuals that understand, how badly we want to understand.
Agreed.
As the fireworks exploded at midnight I was watching the last 7 mins. Dr Brucato spoke, and I cried. In my mind everyone in the world was listening to your words.
I would like to say that for me….this has been the best podcast so far! It is clear that Chris and Dr. B have an extraordinary relationship and I for one can say that this was the best 3 hours that I have spent in a very long time! It would be wonderful to listen to Dr.B all day ! He is intelligent ,informative and interesting and beyond that,wise beyond his years! His insight as well as Chris’s insight is more than amazing! I was shocked when Chris said ….quote “Thank you for spending the last 3 hours with us”! I was so involved in the subject that I didn’t even notice! To Dr. Brucato! You do not “JABBER “😊 ! Everything you say has..as we Germans say..Hand and Foot..which really means that everything you say is meaningful in one way or the other! It is a true pleasure and honor to listen to you and if I lived in the US I would not hesitate for one second to come and hear you speak anywhere! Unfortunately I reside in France which makes this impossible! To Chris! Thank for your insight,kindness and compassion! I appreciate the chance to get insight into a life of a true hero and one of the world’s best detectives! I wish I could do something to help in your cause for the cold case foundation other than financial! I have been following true crime longer than RUclips has become so popular!
At closing I would like to wish all of you,including mods and families ,a prosperous New Year and a very happy 2024!!! I truly love and admire all of you Thank you again Dr Brucato,!!❤ 1:48 By the way ! At the moment we are sitting in an RV in the middle of the Black Forest for the holidays🎉,
Thank you we appreciate your support Happy New Year
Actively take care of yourselves in the new year. Remember, be kind. We never know what someone else is going through. 🙏🎊
I'd also like to reply to Dr Brucato's question about how many women have experienced misogyny. I won't detail every incident, as I could fill a notebook but they include being sexually assaulted in a taxi and on a bus (the latter involved the police). Being stabbed in the neck in broad daylight by a complete stranger who attacked me after saying to me 'I don't like your hair.' I went to the police and they did nothing. I've been followed in the street more than once, verbally abused by men as I walk past without me engaging with them at all. I've had men perform 'acts' while sitting next to me on public transport and standing at bus stops. I was followed home from school every day at the age of 13 by the same young man who'd wait for me in the same place. I was strangled by my friend's brother in a sudden attack that came out of nowhere. In the latter two cases, the men were known to be mentally ill. My friend's brother was later diagnosed with schizophrenia. The person who followed me I later discovered was the adopted brother of a girl at my school. Apparently he drowned her hamsters. And as far as covert misogyny, I am regularly dismissed because I'm female, whether in relationships, or professionally, or even just speaking to companies on the phone, it happens as a matter of course. I expect discrimination. I fear it. It's like a giant wall you can't get over. There are 3 men within a street of me who behave in a predatory way that makes me nervous. My instinct knows. And one directly next door whose abuse I have to live with every day. The police can't do anything because he makes sure I don't have a witness, he knows how to stay within the law. The law is virtually powerless to help women until it is already too late. I am perhaps drawing a connection here without being able to cite research, but the number of women and men I know who are childhood victims of abuse is off the scale. And I don't live within a risk taking or 'bad' community. On the contrary. They are just people I know from school, through activities and projects. Again, the worst thing is the silence. Very often, You Tube is the only place I can hear these discussions as it makes people so uncomfortable to do any kind of deep analysis into the causes. And I thank Chris and Gary and everyone at the interview room for bringing these conversations into the light in a fair, thoughtful and respectful way. I have only been watching a little while but I found it so helpful.
Dr. Brucato is just flipping amazing. What a mind! What a gift.
I have watched this episode 3 times and I'm amazed at how Dr. Brucato treats these topics. He is a true gem of knowledge. Chris, thank you so much for bringing us professionals like Dr. B. Fascinating! Hope you had a wonderful start of the year.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dr Brocato, I feel so lucky to hear and absorb your wise advice. This forum is a safe and calm space which Chris takes such care to provide. Thank you both. From New Zealand.
You are so welcome.
I rewatch this when I need a humanity “pick me up.” It is a beautiful discussion of a horrid topic-that’s hard to accomplish. Dr. B, please don’t let any comment about the recent press event get you down. If you are listened to, your messages are loud and clear and always well meaning. Your enlightened and extensively researched comments are appreciated. Thank you Chris and Dr B very much -always great, uplifting content. I’m enjoying “The New Evil.”
One of the best tc shows I've ever watched here today. Dr Gary always has so much fascinating thoughts and knowledge to give on this subject. I could watch this every day. Thanks for the great content.
I was inspired to Buy the Kindle version of Gary’s book tonight. I’m 165 pages in, and it’s fascinating.
Tonight’s live was great.
Just found this today and I am already tearing up. God Bless you guys for all you do and for dealing with this evil every day. I don't know how you all keep your sanity when surrounded by this, but God Bless You again for doing it.
Thank you both so much. This was the perfect way to ring in 2024. With learning, humor, wisdom, safety, respect, and kindness. You two are the very best!
Also! I know Dr Brucato gets tons of praise here bc it’s quite obvious he is extremely blessed w intelligence and the will the fight this battle but I just want to say … @theinterviewroom Chris, you are the humble and silent saint. We are def blessed w the dr. Through you and I have looked a bit into your work and you also have a tale to tell. I don’t know what you believe in but I choose to call him god, brought us two incredible humble men to enlighten us and help us understand and what they both have done for families and the world, I don’t know if humanity has a word for it. Thank you Chris for keeping faith when others maybe couldn’t. And thank you both for shining a light in the darkness. Bless you both
This is the perfect way to spend New Years😊
This is still my all time favorite episode! Although it’s hard to choose, as I’ve listened to most episodes multiple times! Love you Chris & Dr Gary. God brought you two together!
Brilliant. I have enjoyed your shows with Dr. Bracato more than any other. He is a beautiful and very intelligent and interesting person.
That was a POWERFUL ending
Thank you for promoting the idea of inclusion. This can make a difference for many atypical people.
I could listen to you guys talk all day. I can't get over how brilliant and humble Dr. Gary Brucato is (don't worry Chris, you're brilliant too ☺️). Thank you for sharing this with the world.
Thank you for your kind support!
I watched it twice. I really want a transcription of Dr. Brucata's closing remarks. It's the best psychotherapy I ever got!
Dr. Brucato, thank you for those touching and wise words in the end, truly moving - Fan of Interview room from Finland🤩
Dr. B! You really are giving a “Ted” talk! 😅 Chris & Karen, I love you too! Much love & respect & the Best Happy 2024 to you all ! 😊💫🩷
I’m going to need to rewatch. So much to take in and absorb. Thanks for an excellent show!
Same!
Thank you for this special NYE treat! I look forward to Dr Gary’s appearances and insight. He’s amazing!
Praising the Lord with you for your son’s divine protection, Chris. 🙏 🎉
Miss Sophia I pray for good health for you in the New Year.🙏❤️
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Best thing I could've done with my day. Happy New Year! Remember your grammar. "Let's eat Grandpa" went around the internet world a bit ago. To remind us that commas save lives. "Let's eat, Grandpa" That's for you Dr Gary!
I had two female teachers who taught me, and their classes, how to be open-minded yet remain a critical thinker.
Whatever our natural viewpoint on a topic, we would have an assignment to write detailed papers on the opposite side of our beliefs.
For example, if you were pro-abortion or pro-death penalty, you'd be required to write the paper on why being anti-abortion or anti-death penalty made sense.
Great environment. Wise teachers.
Dr Brucato, thank you for such amazing content!! I’m going to watch this show again it was so good. Chris, thank you for your expertise with all these crazy people too.
When Gary Brucato painted thst picture with words about God’s nature….That was so beautiful and true ringing….that was Art!
Chris and Dr B are 2 stellar human beings!! Loved the show tonight.
Happy 2024!!!
Thank you for describing what happened to your son it must have been very traumatising for you. I pray you & your family are ok after what happened. Prayers for the victims families who got killed on that day ❤🙏I hope you all have a peaceful happy 2024❤
I’m late to the party 🎉sooo pleased to have found this!! You two are amazing. Your knowledge,experience combined with your passion and compassion are outstanding. Chris, thank God for your son! I’m so sorry he had to experience such an event, delighted he survived it. I acknowledge the trauma you and your lovely wife experienced too. Just love what you all do at the IR. I’ve learned so much about a subject that is close to my heart in more ways than one. Happy 2024 to all, happy birthday to Dr Gary. I love the book! When I hear him speak it puts chapters in the book come alive for me. Health and happiness to all from Bonnie Scotland 🏴 ❤
Great quote from Auden and particularly relevant for 2024. I could listen to Dr Gary for hours and I do, very erudite and he goes to the top of my list for calling out misogyny in such a strident manner. Happy New Year :))
Rewatching this because it is so utterly interesting. Thank you so much gentlemen for this great way to spend my evening. And yes, i liked the Dalmers Pizza joke !! Slowly getting through Dr Brucato's book ......... just trying to soak it all in. LOVE it Always a great program when the two of you are on. And Dr Ramsland too !!
Chris- Thank you for sharing your story and partnering with Dr B. I just got the chills, 💯 DIVINE INTERVENTION! No coincidences w/elevator, office and your previous colleague.🕯️🙏
I’m so glad your son is safe- not only that, he is a hero. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree! Happy New Year Chris and Gary!
Chris, what case do you still carry the most? I can’t imagine doing what you do. 7 years I found my friend gone by 5uicide. It was horrific, bloody mess. Terrifying for me. It changed my life. Forever. I will never forget that scene. It’s still vivid. I did seek a trauma therapist and a support group. The support group was the best help. Stick with a support group in losses. I can’t tell everyone here how much you need to go for at least 4 years. I now help others who experience this kind of loss. Mention them every show. They have many types of support groups. It will help and in such positive ways. I can’t imagine seeing what I saw or worse all the time. My appreciation for law enforcement, first responders and the military members is forever changed. Thank you for all you do for us. 3:14:25 right here….gary is talking about it. I turned to helping others more than I already did. Great words Gary on turning darkness to light.❤❤❤❤❤❤
That’s awful, I’m so sorry you had to witness that. I admire your resiliency. Take care, friend 🙏🏻
I feel like I’m taking a college criminal psych class. I loved this! Thank you
Thank you. Thank you for sharing your “ gifts”.
Personally, as a healthcare professional and animal rescuer , I certainly can
relate to the need for compassion and strength when facing “ life and death” situations.
This helped me refocus on the gifts I’ve been given. My identity. My meaning in life.
God Bless.
Best TIR ever. Thanks Chris and Gary. Happy New Year!
God Bless you two for keeping your sanity after all you have seen in your lives. It is so hard to take it in sometimes.
Dr. Brucato, im halfway through where youre talking about how people are grasping for identity. Ive had this concept flowing around in my head for a long time (especially recently 🙃) but you really helped me put words to the phenomena im seeing and why im seeing so many people so easily ignore and throw away morals they supposedly had, and why they are so blind to what theyre doing. The massive scale of people who are doing that has been one of the biggest shocks to me recently. Im part of the groups of people you mentioned earlier who grew up with a definite religion/culture/identity, so maybe thats why ive been so baffled about this phenomena. I would love for you to have a whole show about identity issues, Internet "groupthink" (idk what to call it), and why/how so many people are so willing to ignore facts that they would otherwise listen to. Thanks for all you do!
Also, you mention "brittle" people. Would the opposite of that be "resilient" people? Applying this to the identity talk, is this formed in like a nature vs nurture type way, or both, or neither? Like, would something like generational trauma play a part in this? I feel like I come from a family of "resilient" people so I really wish I can understand how the other side comes to be. I hope this makes sense lol.
You need to read the study done on Incels in Austin, Texas @ University of Texas. It explains all this and its BRILLIANT.
@@kelliintexas3575 what's the name of the study? Or will it easily pop up if I search "university of Texas incel study"
Dr. B's comments about the misogyny toward and objectification of women are extremely heartening. Thank you.
BEST LIVE EVER! ❤ Thank you, Chris and Gary, for sharing so much time with us!! I vote for a 3 hour live EVERY week!!!
Only 37 mins in, this is a really great show. I got my snack and got comfy. Thanks!
Dr Gary what a pleasure it is to listen to your absolutely fascinating insight. This was a fantastic show. I love your references to Sherlock. Thanks to Chris for hosting this brilliant mind.
Thank you Chris and Dr Brucato for the discussion on the theological aspects of the impacts of these crimes … it meant a lot to me.
I am listening to this program for a second time. I am next going to read the two books cited and now downloaded on Audible. I have so many thoughts and questions. Thank you for this In- depth discussion of mass shootings within our American culture.
On replay! Chris we need you and the Cold Case Foundation on a case in Georgia.
You can submit the information on the CCF website
Wishing you a speedy recovery Ms Sophia ❤🙏
I truly appreciate what you guys are doing here. I'm a sociologist at heart and what you do helps me to make sense of these challenging times. I missed the live, but wanted to chime in on your poll - I used to work in security monitoring, and I witnessed a school shooting through security cameras. I was a safe distance away and in no danger what so ever, but still, I was affected. I'm not comparing my experience to those who lost loved ones, feared for their lives, or had to cope with the aftermath. Just seeing it was so awful that I can't imagine the nightmare for those who were present or directly affected.
Best show of the year! 💕👍🏼
These insights matter personally to me. Thank you !
What a treasure our Gary is. Thank you for another very informative interview 🙏❤️
Thankful Dr. Brucator is using his genius for good. I love listening to him.
Thank you Chris, Karen, Dr.B and mods. Happy New Year ! ❤🎉
Happy New Year Lisa! 🎉❤️
This has given me new ways of thinking about some questions I have been tousling about with recently. I always appreciate getting to learn from everyone. Thank you always for using your platform for good against the new evil (see what I did there? ) much much love to everyone
His brother protected him that day. The knowledge you’ve given him helped as well. 💕🙏🏻God bless!
Thanks for the Xmas gift guys! fantastic show!!
Thank for you introducing me to Dr Brucato! Happy new year 🎉 Dr B is utterly fascinating
Dr. Gary, 🤣 that is the BEST Hannibal impression ever! 🎯
One of the best episodes ever. (Missed the live but just finished the replay.) Very educational and insightful. Thank you Chris and Dr Brucato for giving of your time and sharing your knowledge so freely, and for sharing how you find the light outside the darkness. 🖤
Many years ago I had a stalker😫Someone I dated and broke off the relationship. It’s scary!! I put a stop to it right away!!
That is scary! I can relate and wish stalking was taken more seriously
What an amazing show! My heart is full with appreciation and I am humbled by both of you. I hope you know how important and impactful you’ve all been (TIR) in so many lives. Peace and blessings to everyone 💕🙏
I can't say it enough, Gary is awesome!! I feel like I get a TED talk every time I tune in. Thank you both.
This show was fascinating. Such excellent questions and Dr Brucato conveys his thoughts and knowledge so clearly. One of my favourite episodes.
I read one of those profiling books by the Mindhunter guys. It was fascinating. This is like bringing that to real life in our modern society. They cover old cases that they were a part of in those books. But Dr. Gary is so knowledgeable about the cases that we are all following today. I would love to see an episode or two on the zodiac case. It’s always intrigued me and I thought that they had solved it. But I guess I’m wrong on that. I’m wondering if you guys ever think they will? Thanks so much for a great show and happy new year to each and everyone of you. May the Lord bless your year ahead.
Yes, the best stream I have ever seen on true crime after more than 2 years of close following. Thank you both for an incredible presentation and loving, wise comments…
Powerful message Dr Brucato. Love your ending comments. God Bless you my friend!❤️
Great show as always gentlemen. Great to hear Dr. Brucato as usual. Chris even better for you having him on sir. Much enjoyed. There’s so much to learn here. It’s like a special session of free knowledge.
Gosh I relate to what you said so much Chris, around the 3 hour mark. That feeling when something greater than you is guiding you to say the right words to reach someone who needs it.... it's unreal. Incredible. Thank you for putting it into words.
Thank you Chris and Dr. B., always enjoy your podcasts❤
This was very interesting. Some of the angles are what I've not previously thought of - it's also important that we try our best to include and lend a listening ear to people who may not be like us. I very much enjoyed listening to your mini seminars; thank you for uploading the video...i'd missed the live session due to traveling but am glad to be able to watch it.
If Dr B ever tours, I’m there.
3:10:43 “the only way to deal with it is to get to the healing” I am a pediatrician who has plenty of PTSD from the child abuse and child cancer wards I observed during my inner city residency and early career- would love to communicate more on the personal aspect of observing the worst of human suffering and evil afflicted on innocents and still retaining compassion and joy
1:48:30 I could listen to Dr B discuss post modernism implications on psychology for hours. At times he makes deep theological points that remind me of some Dominican discussions. Wonder if he could be a Lay Dominican. Thanks for another amazing show.
Chris’s and Dr. Brucato’s losses and compassion make them the best orators for the victims in all the cases they discuss. Their intelligence and experience helps us understand the perpetrators.
Thank you Chris & Dr Brucato. Lets get Dr Brucato a Ted Talk.... I was thrilled TIR was doing a New Years Eve show. Love Dr Brucato, hope to see him at Crime Con next year. Happy New Year !!!! Dr Brucato's words of wisdom made me tear up.