Diablo 4 PTR - Bash NERFED by 81%?! No, it's a Buff
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
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No, it got buffs, but other Basic Skills got relatively bigger buffs.
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Starless doesn’t have to hit anything to keep its stacks.
Playing so much barb and rogue he forgot that druids can't equip greatstaff of the crone and this new weapon at the same time.
Well... Bash DID get nerfed as a skill by itself because the tempering stats were so dramatically cut back. BUT... using the right gear, you can pretty much turn ANY basic skill into a beast now.
Any barb basic yes and maybe a bit rogue’s. Others no
@@simohayha435 Huh? Why not? Every class can use all these uniques now that every class ca use swords.
Lunging striktes and fury, hm idk. Not like flay or bash
If bash temper is nerfed so much, would it be better to use other tempers like close or crit or vulnerable damage?
@@gaspara9817 Because other classes won’t be able to use other weapons you know. They can’t use weapon tempers or 2h aspects like barbs while using this unique.
wonder how i will use this in my heartseeker rogue. prob have to work around the intense resource cost
for the future, chat is on top of this and your cam aswell a bit :P might want to move the sheet columns to the center of the sheet or so, good vid tho!
Wudijo, I think the second part of that helm is actually increasing the resource cost it is like the opposite effect of the top effect (75% RCR) , so I do t think it is good if you hit often. (+25% increase RCR for stacks is like 100% more resource cost at max stack; this is not made for generator build.
There's no way that helm will be unchanged before S5 launch, right? Normal uniques are not supposed to outperform mythic uniques and be an autoinclude in most of builds
It does directly go against what they said is their philosophy for uniques going forward from S5.
It will obviously be nerfed. RUclipsrs are just milking the clicks with it, it’s pathetic.
@@thierryfaquet7405they shud milk us, we're sucker consumers 😂
Can you use it for heartseeker? 😮
Heartseeker is dead, move on, there are other builds in this game
How does stormclaw include this when they have to use greatstaff of the crone 😢
stormclaw is so dead now
What Wudijo doesnt take into account is season 4 Bash was just a „find temper” and equip it kind of skill. You could basically play it from level 0 and take till the endgame.
The season 5 Bash is more of a puzzle and the power build-up will be gradual. You wont feel it right from level 0 and it will take time to farm all the uniques and mythic items.
So from a blaster's perspective, Bash was buffed.
But from a casual or regular player's perspective, Bash was omega-nerfed.
Which was needed. grab, hit 4 tempers and be best build of end game is really bad for the game.
It would be interesting to see how this stacks up vs the temper "bash cleaves for xxx%". But if it's that high for a 1h as long as you get a decent roll of 200% or more this would absolutely be an upgrade from Ramaladni's.
The thing is the average is player could realistically make insane barb builds in season 2 playing 1-2 hours a day but it’s just not viable in season 5 playing that much because you’d need to farm very specific uniques to even make bash decent in S5, they definitely made bash unfun for casual players in season 5
Is flay dead or is it still going to be good?
flay is buffed. Check patch notes
The question is will they keep it ?
The new unique sword and helm are god tier
What about flay/flay duration withramaldinis and seligs
With 350+ resource with seligs on that gives ramaldinis a +140%x to your attack plus dual wield swords = fast attack speed
cant sorcs use swords now?
yeah. but the new sorc staff is also a basic attack weapon but it's way way worse AND a 2h. yeesh.
Wind shear could be pretty nice with the sword 👌
not really, u lose 100% double wind shear + half dmg of ws build is poison, which doesn't benefit from its passive
@paulli1176 okay... it's education time: a) almost all the damage is poison. Over 90% of the dps comes from calm breeze. That's why wind shear ranks don't matter at all for the build. b) because it is wind shear that applies the poison damage basic attack multipliers work. That's why aspects like Moonrise and Adaptability do buff the poison damage. The Shard of Varathiel should follow the same principle. c) You can get around 70% chance for double proj on your offhand. so you only lose 30% with the sword equipped. you also lose 80% damage from Moonrise and a little bit of flat poison damage for not using a Two-Hander. The 300% multi from the sword should easily outweigh that. In addition, you are able to profit from Starless Skies (you probably swap out edgemaster for it). The ridiculous amount of basic attack speed on the sword is awesome as well =)
the grind and leveling, and end game in S5 will be insane of a grind. Maybe only 5% of the player base will get to the uber-end-game
with the expansion coming up shortly after, I think I may skip and play eternal until then....I aint got time to be re-leveling characters every month
what if you add Ramaladin? that's a 120% multiplier with 300 fury - which is very doable.
you cant bash with two swords and in order for ramaladni to proc you have to actually use it in arsenal
@@y_y6153Frenzy and flay barb ftw😅
@@ernomakkonen5200 ^^
The math is slightly wrong since you lose crit damage which were buffing your GF.
10% down from a 105 to 20? what?
Hey fellow druids saying, "but we need staff of the crone😢", 28% claw plus 30% storm strike= 58%, 28% x300% = 112%. So claw on its own will be 1.93x better with the sword than if you used the staff, and that's not taking the attack speed buff into account
I don't disagree with the math, but should we be balancing around the assumption of having certain legendaries?
We definitely should as this will be easier to get as any Uber
not like barb could use some insta damage nerfing. so yea against bosses it seems like a buff, but clear might suffer a little bit.
Mekuna killed a Pit 200 boss with the same items on a Sorc 😉. With a little help of a Rogue to get there 😄
Sorc has a significant bug right now On ptr
@@gearzdesign what doesn't have significant bugs right now on PTR 😆
@@flowqi212 crown of lucion with pant Axial Conduit (sorc) both are bugs
when we equip both of them the damage of chain lightnig will scaling to infinity
This isn't a bug for you ?
@iplayagame8652 of cause it is. I'd even go so far as to say every build that can do Pit 150 or higher is based on at least one bug or exploit. Almost every new unique in the PTR is so messed up right now that it's rather pointless to test anything without a number of hotfixes :-(
@@flowqi212 Diabugs 4. 🤣🤣
Still waiting for frenzy tempers that aren't duration
This won’t work with gushing wounds and berserk ripping. So huge nerf overall.
Druids can't use swords, can they @Wudi
Druids can now use Polearms, One-Handed Swords, and Daggers.
Necromancers can now use Maces and Axes. This includes The Butcher's Cleaver
The Butcher's Cleaver
being usable for Necromancers.
Sorcerers can now use One-Handed Swords and One-Handed Maces. This includes Azurewrath
Azurewrath
and Doombringer
Doombringer
being usable for Sorcerers.
Can we talk about the fucking annoying practice or gouging a playstyle and then giving it back but gated behind a specific unique?
Build enabling uniques are interesting at times but it's INTERACTION that makes it interesting. Hardly an interaction- simply a gear equation
Bash is boring cant you use the other basic skills instead like frenzy or something its way more fun imo.
Its actually a nerf if other basic skill builds doesn't change a bit.
Ofc rob tested it. It’s significantly better than before. 800m-1bill hits every swing. Zzzzzzz
Wtb DPS meter
Are we going to talk about lightning sorc 4000 Trillion dmg? that shit is dope for S5PTR
Another streamer that resemble Beavis from MTV already hitting 4/5 barbillions with that setup
strange theory-crafting video, easier to check after PTR Rob's channel, he for sure would test it at high end
Flay will be even better, now it’ll use starless skies, you can rupture twice as fast, and now encroaching wrath will be viable for rupture on a basic attack build. Drop the damage shield for the other shout, I might even add in paingorgers. Now add in wrath of the berserker
Encroaching wrath does not count for the bleed damage of rupture, so it’s useless
It's still a nerf, now I have to find new uniques for my character. And if they are only in the s5 realm my s4 barb wont have access in eternal
Not true they are being added to eternal even the hell event will be in eternal as they stated the PTR is testing the version that will be added to eternal servers during the campfire chat.
They just have no clue what they're doing
They need to buff the crazy hell out of Druids and Sorcerers, their crying is so loud atm it's ruining all discussion of the game. Please please buff them to shut them up.
Put this together with Starless Sky and this new (bugged) Crown of Lucion and you will see some crazy Bash numbers.
Teleport nerfed, focus nerfed, flame shield nerfed, ice armor nerfed, Debilitatin Roar nerfed, Shadowblight nerfed, Victimize nerfed, etc
Meanwhile, Barb holding one button to auto-attack with Bash... Yeah, this game is perfectly (un)balanced.
They will nerf everything to the ground outside the Gushing Wounds of course. And Barb will get 50% Polearms buff and new Aspect to pull in and do another 10%[x] dmg.
Once they fix crown bug + nerf rogue glyph it will be back to S4 Barb meta AKA Barblo IV
@@ItchyBackside They will nerf everything outside Barb and Gushin Wounds. They will even buff Barb even further. Yeah... this is Barblo IV. They have very little time to fix this game... PoE 2 is coming.
I feel like these new uniques are trash. Zero creativity. Just a bunch of bland damage multipliers.
bash does 1-4b now lol
It's not buffed. It's more like rebalanced.
being forced to used uniques is bad
They simply can not nerf barbs. It isn’t even funny anymore it’s just sad rolf.
I don’t think your fully understanding how big of a nerf this is, they lose a ton of tankiness and have to actually farm items in order to come online and become powerful, plus in relation other classes gain way more from these items relatively. Huge W changes, we shouldn’t knock the devs for actually nerfing barbs a bit we are getting what the community has asked for
Pls play sorc and dont cry abaut barb nerfs rofl
@@Da5kone001 looool. Barb lost a ton of tankiness hahahaa. How?? Enlighten me pls. And you need to farm items on barb??? Literally Unplayable
@@ulrichg.1801 I did and i will dw lol
hahaha barbs need to farm items now instead of being OP without any investment 😭😂😂 these people cant be real @@simohayha435
Forgive me, Blizzard but I don't want to have to do math to play a game about barbarians and goblins.
You don’t have to, just copy paste online builds
What is the point of having masterworking as end game if they are going to nerf the meta in 2 months? Most won't have time to farm and double crit their gears before meta is nerfed. There is not enough time to farm enough double GA items to brick some and then master work the ones that got the right temper to double crit. Huge meta change is essentially Blizzard bricking your items for you, along with throwing away billions of gold and 10's of thousands of masterworking mats. I don't even know if there is a point to work on my bash barb anymore. Guess I'll stop playing again.
What difference does it make? Each season starts over from zero and we just use new builds and masterwork whatever to beat Lilith and tormented bosses and pit 101+ and Inferno waves T8.
@@Martin444444444 some plays eternal realm. With more end game content like master working eternal realm is more viable
It's season 5 in August when you start everything again
Anyone who still believes that Barb will be nerfed doesn't understand the braid dead dev team! 😭😂
PTR is just really big piece of trash so buggy boss ,cant find any good unique . the wave dungeon is very boring and trashy drops