Should You Buy Gray Zone Warfare?
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2024
- Gray Zone Warfare is the newest Tactical Shooter to hit the market, though it comes with a huge caveat. This game is in Early Access. Very Early Access. Being in Pre-Alpha it has it's issues associated with being in such an early state of development. So is it worth it to buy Gray Zone Warfare?
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too many people are going into this with the mindset that it’s a finished product
It’s probably because early access hasn’t been early access in gaming for a while. I think this is a actual EA game since it feels like a play test.
Yep. Pay 35$ dollars, play under that 2 hour mark, make the decision if you like what it is AND what it COULD BE, then refund or don’t.
finished product, thats not even product my man.
Tbf i hardly really know very many “early access” games that actually add and polish up the game outside of baldurs gate 3
@@kaidantienkulkija its perfectly playable, i have 50 hours in the game, not out of spite because of the tarkov drama (i dont care) i just like the game, wether you like it or not its fine for early access
“none of these stuff is that bad to me..now granted I’ve been playing Tarkov for over four years” 😂 I literally laughed out loud
I've been playing tarkov for 7+ years and people make it seem way worse than it was.
At the start you had some loot dropping through floors and things like that but really nothing too crazy. People just like to bash on a really successful game
It’s sums up the abusive relationship players have with tarkov and how willing they are to accept the bare minimum and be happy with it
@@IamTx216how is that possible game came out in 2018 right?
Tarkov players experiencing more bugs??? Call of duty has entered the chat…
@@Jp-ui3fw 2016
Imagine a kid raised by tarkov... It would be deaf or at least have trouble hearing.
This message brought to you by "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
I already had tinnitus, I use dt 1990 pros.... Pretty sure my tinnitus got worse from 8 years of Tarkov lol
As a Star Citizen player/backer, can confirm, our tolerance for bugs is unsurpassed hahahaha
Me personally…
I’m happy to be a part of this project from the first start.
I totally understand what early access means and can enjoy it…
this is the best attitude, same here
Same, should like we need to squad up
this, game is great fun and has a solid foundation it will be interesting to see the game they build on it
This is important. And to be aware that at any moment the developer or publisher could pull the plug and you will have nothing. Case in point, potentially KSP 2. I am not happy anymore to do this but appreciate those who do.
Same. I wanna get in on the ground floor. I also have done a fair bit of beta testing and bug hunting for other titles. And if I can, I'd want to impact how some of this game develops.
Been in Star Citizen for a few years now and yea, we have an ungodly tolerance for bugs. About 80 hours into GZW so far and loving it, haven't even hit the "hard" locations yet cause I'm taking my time enjoying how gorgeous the map is.
Honest question why is it that we have an ungodly amount of tolerance for bugs? Like dayz is prime example games bin out for 10 years plus and you STILL can't drive a car without launching to another dimension and people still play with outdated and broken physics, with that being said are people to blame for supporting this crap? Or triple A studios to blame because they haven't bin doing anything new ? Idk it's weird we are OK with crap I support gzw though solid looking game
@@Machoman50ta the answer is literally always 0 competent competition. Look at every scenario you listed, and think of a worthy competitor. If you can find me one I'd be impressed.
I guess because it's so old, but Arma 3 King of the Hill is pretty much a simple version of gray zone warfare.
3 factions, 3 different bases, you fight each other in a certain city on the map, get flown in by heli or by vehicle, save money to buy new gear and level up. I'm really surprised the comparison isn't seen more.
Because I really just don't see the big comparison to tarkov. It's just not there. It's more comparable to arma 3 or deadside.
It feels like Grayzone is to Tarkov, what Deadzone is to DayZ. Similar vibes, more casual, some different things that may actually be better than the OG game in the genre. But I do understand the Tarkov comparisons.
this is so real, i can't believe anybody haven't picked up that it's not at all like tarkov and more to KOTH Arma 3
@@mac_er9275 - except that KotH is PVP. This is more focused on PVE, including PVE-only servers.
The inventory ui / weapon mod is literally exact copy of tarkov
@@SkraLord it's not at all "exactly" like tarkov, and there's dozens and dozens of games with very similar inventory menus. So the UI isn't that comparable either. Tarkov menus pull up and cover your entire screen.
Gray zone warfare was I originally wanted tarkov to be
Agreed! 100%
Yep although I come to love the tarkov raid system I can enjoy both games I’m absolutely loving GZW can’t put it down and can’t wait to login daily so far
You love being bored?? that’s crazy
@@joeyyjames you love being broke? That’s crazy
@@joeyyjames I’m not a braindead cod player, and if this type of game ain’t for you then idfc. Plenty of other ppl enjoy, same reason ppl have enjoyed Arma and dayz
Your five question survey is perfect. You answered so many questions for me. Thank you for being honest.
Happy to help!
Your videos and streams are always enjoyable for me but what I love the most about you is your character which resonates wisdom. You sound very wise man.
I've put in about 30 hours so far in the first couple days and made some friends along the way. It's really cool and I like it.
Yea a lot of friendly people at base and out in towns every time I run into one they are cool and ask if I need anything pretty dope community
Is it fun alone
lol! 3,500 hours in Star Citizen....this game is great for being an early access! Looking forward to what's to come!
I’m going to T-pose on a chair just to salute your investment. I did the same, for early access this is pretty polished. 😂
@@Voss44 🤣
haha I'm a few years into SC as well, thought the same, for early access this game is a dream to play
agreed, this is phenomenal for an early access when compared to SC's bugs
Just upgraded today. Got it yesterday. It’s a damn good time so far and I’m excited to see where it goes.
I would like squad marks/ squad call signs like in hell divers 🤷🏽♂️ other than that It did take me around an hour to get my settings in point.
Yea after you get it down your good 👍🏽
Another quality honest review and I personally love this game think it has the potential to be a absolutely brilliant game and like you said it just takes time and patience keep um coming
Already sunk like 40 hours into the game since release. I'm done supporting BSG, time to spread the wealth and time on another company. GZW is it.
💯
Gray Zone is some hot ass. They ran a closed alpha for steamers to test the game out. Sure that’s good but then BSG fumbles so they decide to pull a cash grab by releasing an open alpha by releasing a product with tons of issues that were previously found by the closed alpha? Na that’s scummy af especially considering their payment model is the exact same as BSG’s with the p2w versions. What’s the point in open / closed alphas and betas if they are treated as the same thing as a “full released” game? At this point game combined are just hiding behind titles as cover for their blatantly terrible game design.
@@ourworldisstrange7301 nowhere did they try to hide that this is early access alpha. If you’re buying this game, you’re agreeing to being a playtester and going in KNOWING that these are issues that will be addressed. Go complain somewhere else
@@ourworldisstrange7301 Not quite how it happened. Go watch Big Frys video on the subject. He was part of the early alpha test and they provided feedback saying the game wasnt ready for release but than the beta streamers that didnt get in got all pissed off and cried and complain to GZW to release it early so they did. So you can thank the beta streamer community for that shit.
As for launchs go GZW had some issues sure but majority disconnection issues were solved in 2 hours time. Same cant be said for BSG, when Tarkov first came out match making was so broken over half the community couldnt even play and it took them WEEKS to fix it, not hours. GZW is technically still in alpha and I choose to spend my time and money assisting their alpha instead of pooring more of that into BSG with their shady ass tactics. This is not the first time they tried to fuck over EOD users. Everyones seems super quick to pass the fact they did this exact samething when Arena came out and tried to say it wasnt a DLC and EOD was going to have to pay for it also. They are just going to keep doing this stupid ass shit. BSG is down for in my opinion. Everyone says Tarkov cant die, I say Tarkov killed its self.
@@MisterChubz To be far the alpha status is in a drop down that you cant even see until you open it on the Steam page and even their website doesnt state it is an alpha. I know it was because I was keeping tabs on the game for a long ass time but still, its not listed in the easiest place to find like most alpha/bets where it literally says it in the title or the game description.
If you guys gonna buy it please make sure you pc gpu above 20 series at least or even 30(but you can only play the lowest setting(also must use FSR in game atm) for the fps) 10 series is unplayable at the moment, the game is great but pc side is not enough , if you want to play no matter what, set windows 1280/720
the game came out yesterday, stop being childish -_-
@@PrinceOtter I didn't trash on it or something, i say it just so people don't regret mid game and give dislike in an early developing game. At least im playing the game and having fun.
@@CKSOxO Do some tinkering in windows to get better fps, go through nvidia control panel aswell. im using a gtx 1080 running 1440p getting ~50fps+
Just for perspective, as I have heard very different things here: I have a 3070 with a very mediocre CPU, M.2 and 32GB RAM. I am running this game with a res of 2560 x 1440 on medium settings. It run's (mostly) fine (as I would define it [a.k.a. I'm not talking about 144fps here, more like 60-70]). The only somewhat major issue performance wise are stutters for 10-30 s when I enter a new region of the map. I also had 0 CTD or game breaking bugs in 10h of play. I did have some glitches with player models and things like that. I also had a lot of fun.
@@solidgaming2992 oh maybe me and my friends gpu is old need to be much lower , getting like 10-15 fps on 1920 x 1080 o..o
Awesome video, i love the attention to detail you put into your content
I appreciate that!
best overview video by far! Thanks
Great video Airwing!
Great video, AWM. I know that in it's current state I've only got about 40 more hours of interest left in this but I will definitely be coming back when significant content packages come.
I'm about 20 hours in on a 13700k and 4080 and honestly the games been a dream. Constantly at 165fps cap, one crash while adding a friend in base, no gear loss bugs, and generally just pretty enjoyable. For $35 I 100% recommend
Thats bs,, unless youre on 1080p. I have 4090 with 5800x3d and no where near 165fps average. Tbis is on an AW38inch
You play at 1080p?
@@pc4me67 Are you playing at 4k? How many frames are you getting? I have the same build as you.
@@-Karnage its like 3/4 4k...3840x1600
@@-Karnage 1440p 165hz on the default "low" setting
I've been having a blast on Grayzone. Looking forward to seeing where the game is a year or two down the road!
I played around 2 hours so far and i like it that when you got killed you can go back and loot your own caracter again so you not loosing everything you looted so far, fps weish i sit around 50-65fps with everything maxed out
Yet again another great review and a true opinion which is respected ❤
I’m in ! I love this project I’ll def sustain them
This Tarkov wipe I’ve played a ton and built up a 200m stash. I don’t want it all to wipe, so I’m just gonna have fun and burn kits for the rest of wipe. After wipe, I’ll probably try out gray zone.
Yes you should if You have a modern pc and wait a while if yours is a little
Older until it’s polished.
It’s great to play
Now more than ever we need you to make a ballistic video with an ammo chart. im so lost :(
for gear deleting i find that it doesnt actually get deleted but randomly moved inside a random backpack or rig. i noticed this as i thought i had a few hundred $ dissapear but the count was still right in the top right, i scowered my stash and found it in a random backpack, so perhaps the gear isnt actually deleted
id say it mostly depends on if you can run it or not.
those eyes of yours are awesome! great break down for wanting to get this game! hoorah
Brooo that first beat is absolutely 🔥 🔥🔥🔥😭🙌🏽
I knew I was buying into testing and supplying feedback to create the game I want. I'm good with it.
Lots of potential with this game. For sure excited for its future
I started playing this game yesterday and so far its been amazing. Audio needs alot work and there was a dude in my faction camping the early quest zone teamkilling people. Had to avoid him the best i could because i wasnt sure how to switch servers
Sounds like stank-rat
Have you learned how to switch servers? If not, I can explain.
@@tearstoneactual9773 i havent really looked into it feel free to explain
Going to hold off a bit. Got a good base but needs a lot of work
It shows how many people didn’t play, not old enough, or even were around during the Tarkov Alpha days. Or even early DayZ
Great video! Everyone should watch this before buying into any early access title. You have to think of it like an investment in a business start-up, but like any investment, there is a risk it won't provide a return. I think a lot of people don't fully appreiate that.
Very true!
Are they adding lasers and flashlights to the weapons?
lol I’ve seen this video from like every single tarkov creator in the last week. Did you guys coordinate who drops it on which day? Jesse was yesterday.
View farming. It’s their job 🤷🏻
I got the most expensive edition of GZW. I want to support them and for it to be a success. After what BSG did I am happy to play anything else.
My buddies and I love the game so far. Contrary to popular belief, there’s tons of PvP to the point where I’m thinking heli insertion might be bad idea due to killed dudes coming back very rapidly. It becomes a never ending slog till somebody runs out of will or money
The perfect trio 🎉❤
I’m cool with playing early access games. Phasmophobia, Tarkov, and Gray Zone are all early access and easy to get sucked into. I’d be livid if these bugs were in a fully released game, but I’m fine with it. Plus, I LOVE how transparent these devs are being. I hope they can get more money and hire more staff because I don’t want them to burn themselves out. But I’m impressed so far and enjoying the product
First love your videos 🎉
Definitely not me watching this after buying day one. Great video, fun game
Your video here is way better than others. Other creators making this video didn’t touch on the most important part. The mindset. Expectations. Buying in now is all about your expectations and mindset. If you’re expecting a finished product, this ain’t it.
But I for one am excited to get in early and help shape the game
I dont like losing my gear when I die. I cant do recon and then get in over my head and get killed. Cant use the LZ because it's "unavailable". The fun dissappears when i have to spend 20 minutes getting back to the body only to find that it's gone. They're not goi g to change that aspect because it's not a bug.
Seeing some people say that this game demands you play with a card with at least 10GB of VRAM. Is anything less going to cause serious problems? I’m dealing with a nasty smooth texture/low res texture issue where the sliders/fsr do nothing to fix. Also getting really strange lighting issues where I go into a room and the game goes near total dark then slightly brightens again and I get major ghosting when I move around in that dark space. So far no setting moved to low or high makes any difference. Seen people with 1080ti not have this issue and I have a 2060 lol
Same shit happened to me I got 2060 settings did nothing everything was clay looking. Fsr made stuff in the distance look horrible and I could barely see. So I guess I have to wait
@@mjesus850 yea no setting has fixed this not even a reinstall. Distance clarity seems to be an issue for a lot of people though not even just us unlucky ones with the non rendered stuff. Someone was saying that our textures won’t render because of the low VRAM issue but idk how true that is because I’ve seen people with higher end cards get this problem as well. Hoping they fix this personally because I can handle the poor frames but the low texture stuff and muddy/blurry image quality actually hinders gameplay because unless I have a scope I can’t make out enemy from bush. Also getting some crazy fps dips when I zoom into to something like and ACOG or higher zoom level. Basically have to run 1x sights if I want to be able to shoot anything
>what does pre-alpha mean
I'm on a RTX 4060 with 8 gb VRAM. I started out with 40-ish FPS. I went through some optimization videos, followed their advice, dropped at one point to the 20's on framerate. Then came back up to about where I was. Then I wound up going the opposite direction, and getting a solid 90 fps. I locked myself at 60 because anything faster is more than my monitor can do. You're going to have to do some fiddling. It doesn't necessarily work great straight out of the box.
Processor also seems to matter too. I have kind of an older processor, but getting at least 90fps. So... I'm not sure.
@@KyleFromVA - seems the antialiasing is way overzealous. Which is part of the issue on the blur
This was great video so true on bugs but like @Airwingmarine said they are working hard The first hot fix was great. But hot fix 2 messed it up for me I went from getting low 80fps to mid 90fps in raid but after hot fix 2 i sometime get good frames but mainly I'm running at 40fps. But that ok I Know they will optimize a little more for my 2070 super go back having good frames. hahahaha Love this game I think It worth the money if you got 3090 and higher but anything lower then a 3090 like me just have to be patient. But see you all in the trees,!!!!!
Pre alpha this might be the best early access pre alpha state game ive played or tested it just seems so far along theres nothing but room for growth once this basic system is polished, they can add toxic zones drugs for valuables, pvp zones and pvp events rebel factions loot zones patrols so much
It's best not to use guides for optimization bc even if you have the same exact set up the chances of you having the same background load n stuff is unlikely plus you got different monitors. I've got like 12 hours in and have played a lot with the settings and tbh using the GeForce experience app has it working best for me. I'm loving this game so far. Any time I've bugged out I haven't lost my kit. If you're trying to use this to replace a game that you play competitively then just don't do that you'll get upset
I’m having fun. But I’ve also been fully aware of what the game is and where it’s at in its mission.
Was gifted the basic edition and I can’t even play after getting off the helicopter. Running i7 with rtx3050 and 32 gig ram. Crashes every time. And that’s all settings set to low with 60fps on an AU$1,800 Asus Tuff Gaming Laptop.
I am a Star Citizen player and I am having a blast in Gray Zone.
All of the things you've listed are 100% true,
and I love it.
I am having SOO much fun!
Great informational video it so nice to a real person and not some generic youtuber that is just farming the algorithm. 🤗
You got to understand these developers are very small but are very dedicated to giving you a Best experience in gaming than any other gaming company they hear from their players
I played for a bit and really enjoyed it. But getting killed through cement walls when nobody is around me. Or getting kicked out the server to lose all my shit. I’m gonna wait and come back when it gets cleaned up.
100% yes, the pvp can be amazing and you’ll always find squads
what is the ratio betwen players vs ai vs players ?
I've been loving this game so far.where it is now already feels better than most tiple a games.but then again I've been lucky because the game has been running so smooth.and I only have an AMD RX6800 GPU.
If you treat this as an open word Ready Or Not, it becomes a lot more palatable!
SO IM NOT THE ONLY ONE, it reminds me of RON in a lot of ways and I hit that vibe clearing buildings and areas with that same vibe
I love ready or not but man that game needs some updates and more content
@@park9912 agreed, I've got a little over 300 hrs in and I've enjoyed it. Modding can be fun but I would love like an
Evolving scenario
Some roguelite option in Ron with certain parameters you could set and some form of map generation. I may be too stoned but I could see being really cool if implemented properly
for alpha this game is perfect! this is what ive been waiting for, cant wait to see what the future holds
As a Star citizen veteran I can confirm this game has no bugs I’ve encountered that are honestly problematic for me
It's worth the price if you know what you are into it. Do your research as you said with the 5 questions. Its a game with a learning curve who works 60-90% of the time. Undeniably very promising. It is refreshing for what is out there in the market
I’m planning on buying it once my friends will. I would have already bought it just to support the company.
I have cruddy internet speeds.
Ping is great but I only get 1mb up and 12 down.
Can I realistically play this?
I can play Division2 no problem.
No idea honestly man.
I would lean toward yes, but your best bet is to wait a few weeks till they get the major issues sorted out, log in and try it, stay under the steam requirements for refund, and if it doesn't work for you refund it.
we really should stop paying money for pre alpha games. we enabled them to roll out products like this. at some point it has to stop
What are you talking about? There are tons of people loving the game and it was very very clear it’s not anywhere close to finished.
@@RedRascal15 it's about selling unfinished games in general. Not only this one in particular. Beta was a thing. Alpha came afterwards now they sell pre alpha. And people buy that shit. That's the Problem. Because Studios dont have the pressure to release a finished product in a good state ready to compete with other Studios. We buy it in super early stages anyways. And in a lot of cases we get burned doing so.
@@ovuvuevuevueenyetuenwuevu pre alpha was a thing in the early 2000s already.
I'm not sure where you got your information from.
The thing is that finished games of modern AAA quality can only be released as a finished product by those big publishers and even they suck from time to time at releasing finished games. I'd say you should start play older games or quit pc gaming if you don't like it the way it is right now because that won't change again anymore. It is not economically feasible for most developers to crowd fund games of that proportions and quality without giving people early access. Nobody would give them enough money to finish development before they ran out of funds.
i like this video because you were truthful
Biggest complaint with this game for me is the blurry and pixelated graphics, they went too far with the antialiasing and its forced so you cant disable it, its also the same case for another unreal engine 5 game called the finals, but its definitley worse in this game, especially in a game where you need to spot enemies and vision is critical, i pretty much cant see anything past 20 meters and have to kiss my monitor and look between pixels to see something, i have never seen a game with such aggressive forced antialiasing, it makes the game barely playable for me and others, PVP is pretty much impossible, unreal 5 is not looking good so far... i hope they can somehow change this because currently this is 90% of my complaints, and please no comments abouts settings or hardware ive tried everything and its the game its not a me issue.
I feel this so much. I already have vision issues. At first I thought it was just my eyes being a problem, but then I realized that no, shit's actually blurry beyond a certain distance.
This pre alpha should be free with the option for those who want to support it with a donation
An addage that comes to mind:
"If you have to ask how much it costs, you probably can't afford it."
Probably true for any 'game' purchase and most certainly true for early access and alpha games/programs. Perhaps one's money is best utilized in other ways.
Yeah, basically, the game is so new that I'm not worried about rhe bugs is fun most of the time I aurally get higher fps then tarkov and don't lag put everytime I open menu like I do in tarkov
Right? I get way better frames in this game than Tarkov.
@tearstoneactual9773 seems like it runs best on amd based stuff right now it uses basically just my ram and cpu 8% of my gpu but I get 120 in base 90 outside
Personally so far I cannot wait to login every day loving the game and the pvp definitely exists everyone saying it doesn’t isn’t leaving base or start town and even there I’ve had some
Can I play this solo and not get wrecked by pvp? The only reason why I would buy it.
whats the music in 8:28
I bought a copy and installed it but I actually haven't had a chance to play it and I won't get to this weekend either XD
Looks and sounds good but I think Im going to have to hold off.
Least eft doesn't crash every 5 mins idk if me or not but another game started crash after I installed i think I'm rolling back drivers and test
That sounds like hardware issues. I've not had any crashes. I've had a few disconnects, but no crashes.
i just downloaded it on a 3070ti and I7-12700k. Played about 15 minutes before requesting a refund! didn't have five seconds without rubberbanding
Super agree been playing alot of early access games so im ok with the jank i love the game so far also been playing tarkov since the pre alpha so im use to pain lol
Only real issues they need to fix are optimisation, network issues and related the headless glitch. They should worry about rolling out new content or fixing other gameplay mechanics later because these are just the game breaking issues they need to fix now
You forgot the blurry and pixelated graphics.
I DID refund it because i really really couldnt play it, rebought because they dropped 2 very fast patches and i DID crash again but it loaded me back in my exact spot with my kit, i love this game and i think its gonna be GREAT
Only 30%? I'm impressed. There's a lot to do already. I can't wait for the finished product.
Finally someone who realizes this is more like an Arma. IMO, its an Arma exile mod that feels like what the Tarkov open world was imagined to be. If you actually meet the recommended requirements and don't have a problem playing an ALPHA it is great! DayZ alpha and Tarkov alpha were far far worse than gray zone's current state. And that is an extremely good sign of development. I'll be approaching just like I did from Tarkov alpha, upgrading as they add content (potentially with sales).
I am on a 3080 on 3440x1440 and my buddy is on a 1080ti at 1080p. We both believe that they significantly increased performance in the last few days significantly, almost double. I no longer have to use FSR frame generation to have above 60fps. They just need to turn that tree render distance down lol.
You should do this for Tarkov also
toggel leans would be nice
How much you pay..? How much you play..? Whats the hourly ROI..?
bro if arma and dayz had a child, arma would be a parent AND the grandparent
One thing i want them to fix is how fucking loud the god damn helicopter is
so true, we need a seperate heli sound control
Bruh. Helicopters are LOUD IRL
That's why you bring a pair of earmuffs with you.
I'll play it when it is done
This game definitely has potential, but only 20% complete
Buy it. Its loads of fun unless your rig is older. Then idk...
Yes, the game is only 30% complete but this game in its current state is fun af!
The shooting of Tarkov always bugged me, so I'd probably have more fun in this one. That said, I'll try (I'll probably fail) to wait a few months. I did that for Helldivers 2 and thought it was worth it.
Yes you should buy the game the gameplay loop is fun asf the pvp is addicting there alot of bugs but if youve put up w dayz arma pubg early access or tarkov youll be fine this suits fun i hope i helped someone
I thought the top edition was only $35. The picture on steam lies and u have to buy ALL editions.
Is there any kind of roadmap?
Would love to see actual loot in the game, like in tarkov. As of now there is nearly no looting or any kind of crafting, gear fear etc. As gear is cheap as fuck and there is nothing of value to be looted, besides some gear/weapons
Great question. I'll make sure to start pushing for this when ever I can.
The game needs to cook a solid year before put in early access