Thank you for uploading this video, as many here in the US are convinced that PAs are not in practice anywhere except the US, and your video will hopefully dispel this myth...Best of luck in your career and practice.
I’m late on this but I’m 2 months into my pa school training in the us. We do about 27 months of school. Our first 15 months in my school is didactic and our last 12 months are clinicals. In America we can prescribe medications and some states even controlled substances. Also we don’t specialize here. We graduate to be able to go where we want which is my biggest thing because I think I want to start in general practice to get used to everything and then specialize. Maybe er for a few years since you get burnt out and then maybe gi since I have crohns.
There are different laws for Physician Assistant/Associate depending on country and state. In USA, Physician Assistants can prescribe and do more clinically as a team with their collaborating physician. However as the Physician Associate in the UK grows, the profession will grow and the PA will be able to do more and hopefully have a higher scope of practice in the future :D.
Honestly, I think this is the future of medicine. I am a doctor of medical sciences myself and I was a lecturer for students of medicine and the load of useless subjects they have is overwhelming. Studies are too long and way too less practical. Society, do not have time to wait for new medical doctors. We need to change the system of education - courses should me more intense, more practical and speciality focused so we produce valuable medical carers and not educated people who are not prepared to practice (they need years to become who they meant to be). A PA has very often much more practical knowledge than a fresh physician. There should be always a very experienced hospital consultation board available, supporting the other staff.
This has to be a fake account. Everyone has a role, including PA’s. However, this dismissal of academia (although admittedly it can be better planned and strategised) allows for the dilution of the great minds that lead to medical progress and clinical management without over medicalising patients but still investigating and managing them effectively. if anyone can become a doctor then be prepared for a degenerate third world medical system. This is based on simple economics and intelligence studies. A PA is a valued member of the team, naturally however, they lack the critical thinking skills for innovative thought. A doctor is also a generalist, capable in many areas whereas a PA will spend a lifetime in the same unit with the same pathologies. This gives them the illusion of competence but in reality it is because they have the benefit of being long term fixed members of a team so they get preferential training opportunities. In summary, by creating this kind of demand for diluted medical knowledge. Additionally, there jib is essentially a symptom of a bureacratic and unimaginative NHS who are looking for cheap labour instead of evolving the technology in the hospital to free doctor’s of admin roles to gain proper education and mentorship which will lead to more senior decision makers. Anyway, I can only suspect people will want equality for all and assume my educated view in the matter might be bigoted. All I can say I that you have contributed to the collapse of the NHS by thinking otherwise. PA’s are valued members of the team, but they are not doctors. They have their own role.
We need this profession also in Austria; but here the medical doctor chamber is so strict we don't know why, they wont accept the profession in Austria, altough the profession is since 2010 also now in Germany and in the netherlands.
Yep and it’s complete bullshit. It’s a lie and I can’t believe he’s been able to say that for this “documentary”. So much of medical school is about learning to prescribe safely, pharmacokinetics/dynamics, interactions etc.
Hi Iam an 5 1/2 year graduate of alternative medicine from india and want to enrol for physician associate degree here in uk . Is it possible to get enrolled?
It’s the exact same thing. Just different names. We go to school to get our masters degree. At least in the us. I’m in my training now. 2 months down 25 to go.
@@alexbaldwin1267 I've finished psychology degrees in the UK and am open to going down the doctoral clinical psychology route or the PA route. Ironically, if I complete the psychology doctoral training I will get the title doctor but if I go down this route I will be working more like a medical doctor within the medical model but without the title doctor. I feel like the PA should have a doctoral route too.
Its because the role is still fairly new in the UK, they are currently going through regulation by the GMC then it's likely they will be able to prescribe...its happening just takes a bit of time
It really needs to be ASSOCIATE. Yale graduates associates. Medicine is a team effort. Everyone assists everyone else. To say that only PAs assist in a medical team is asinine. ASSOCIATE makes sense.
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Thank you for uploading this video, as many here in the US are convinced that PAs are not in practice anywhere except the US, and your video will hopefully dispel this myth...Best of luck in your career and practice.
I’m late on this but I’m 2 months into my pa school training in the us. We do about 27 months of school. Our first 15 months in my school is didactic and our last 12 months are clinicals. In America we can prescribe medications and some states even controlled substances. Also we don’t specialize here. We graduate to be able to go where we want which is my biggest thing because I think I want to start in general practice to get used to everything and then specialize. Maybe er for a few years since you get burnt out and then maybe gi since I have crohns.
That is why so many medical carers move to the USA from the UK.
There are different laws for Physician Assistant/Associate depending on country and state. In USA, Physician Assistants can prescribe and do more clinically as a team with their collaborating physician. However as the Physician Associate in the UK grows, the profession will grow and the PA will be able to do more and hopefully have a higher scope of practice in the future :D.
Honestly, I think this is the future of medicine. I am a doctor of medical sciences myself and I was a lecturer for students of medicine and the load of useless subjects they have is overwhelming. Studies are too long and way too less practical. Society, do not have time to wait for new medical doctors. We need to change the system of education - courses should me more intense, more practical and speciality focused so we produce valuable medical carers and not educated people who are not prepared to practice (they need years to become who they meant to be). A PA has very often much more practical knowledge than a fresh physician. There should be always a very experienced hospital consultation board available, supporting the other staff.
This has to be a fake account. Everyone has a role, including PA’s. However, this dismissal of academia (although admittedly it can be better planned and strategised) allows for the dilution of the great minds that lead to medical progress and clinical management without over medicalising patients but still investigating and managing them effectively. if anyone can become a doctor then be prepared for a degenerate third world medical system. This is based on simple economics and intelligence studies. A PA is a valued member of the team, naturally however, they lack the critical thinking skills for innovative thought. A doctor is also a generalist, capable in many areas whereas a PA will spend a lifetime in the same unit with the same pathologies. This gives them the illusion of competence but in reality it is because they have the benefit of being long term fixed members of a team so they get preferential training opportunities. In summary, by creating this kind of demand for diluted medical knowledge. Additionally, there jib is essentially a symptom of a bureacratic and unimaginative NHS who are looking for cheap labour instead of evolving the technology in the hospital to free doctor’s of admin roles to gain proper education and mentorship which will lead to more senior decision makers. Anyway, I can only suspect people will want equality for all and assume my educated view in the matter might be bigoted. All I can say I that you have contributed to the collapse of the NHS by thinking otherwise. PA’s are valued members of the team, but they are not doctors. They have their own role.
Sorry doctor of medicine but this is absolute bollocks. Get back in your crumbly box.
“Way too less practical”. Are you OK?
Thanks for uploading this video; it was very informative.
We need this profession also in Austria; but here the medical doctor chamber is so strict we don't know why, they wont accept the profession in Austria, altough the profession is since 2010 also now in Germany and in the netherlands.
Medi-Ehre🤷🏽♀️
In the US, we can treat, diagnose and prescribe medications! so interesting how the PA field varies internationally.
They are about to bring legislation into the UK to properly regulate the profession. So PAs here will be able to prescribe meds too.
I have completed bsc nursing which carrer I want to choose pa or np IAM settled in UK..
How can a PA trained in West Africa gain the chance to practice overseas?
@20.26 : this is the first I've heard that medical students aren't trained in how to prescribe...
Yep and it’s complete bullshit. It’s a lie and I can’t believe he’s been able to say that for this “documentary”.
So much of medical school is about learning to prescribe safely, pharmacokinetics/dynamics, interactions etc.
Because it’s not true.
who produced this video ? Very good! Congratulations
i didnt know bonnie bennet was a pa
Enzos’s death really got to her☹️
😂😂 Good one
Hii Christopher, Can you please guide me which universities offers the course?
What to choice between it and nursing? Which one earns more money? I bet nurses though.
Depends what country you're in I guess.
I think it also depends on what level of nursing you are in.
PA earn £38,000 on their first year of work, definitely more than nurses
Hi Iam an 5 1/2 year graduate of alternative medicine from india and want to enrol for physician associate degree here in uk . Is it possible to get enrolled?
No if you already have an mbbs
Can PAs take 3 long 12 hour shift a week?
yes
@@ifrhaali and can take 4 days off like nurses. Right?
But why are they not wearing scrub ?
Depends on the hospital dept.
To make the patients more comfy
@@erdbarbambusbjorn675 rubbish
What's the difference between a physician associate and a physician assistant? Do associates earn more? Which one is more like a real doctor?
NB7281 Americans call it assistant, British call it associate
It’s the exact same thing. Just different names. We go to school to get our masters degree. At least in the us. I’m in my training now. 2 months down 25 to go.
And saying "which is more like a real doctor?" implies PA want to be doctors but can't because they're not good enough ..
@@relaxing0130 yeah that's a good way of looking at it 👍
@@alexbaldwin1267 I've finished psychology degrees in the UK and am open to going down the doctoral clinical psychology route or the PA route. Ironically, if I complete the psychology doctoral training I will get the title doctor but if I go down this route I will be working more like a medical doctor within the medical model but without the title doctor. I feel like the PA should have a doctoral route too.
Very Good.
Hay quá
That’s dumb that their PA’s cannot prescribe!! How stupid they can in the US and do a good job.
Bc doctors tend to be pretty adiment or territorial abt their thing.....prolly bc it was very hard to get where they are....
@@erdbarbambusbjorn675 I get that.
If PA's have the ability to prescribe, what's the difference between them and doctors?
Its because the role is still fairly new in the UK, they are currently going through regulation by the GMC then it's likely they will be able to prescribe...its happening just takes a bit of time
@@fa9183doctors have 8 yr medical degree. They have the authority and qualification to do such a thing.
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its ASSISTANT, not ASSOCIATE
Different country different name (UK vs USA)
oh
It’s been a battle in the us whether to change to associate or not. And PAs are on both sides.
It really needs to be ASSOCIATE. Yale graduates associates. Medicine is a team effort. Everyone assists everyone else. To say that only PAs assist in a medical team is asinine. ASSOCIATE makes sense.
It should be associate in the us instead of assistant.however in the US PA’s can prescribe