Trains just dont seem like a smart idea.. Ofc I might miss the entire point.. But there is going to be a lot of wasted time.. the oil will fill the container, the train then drive to your base.. and then in a few seconds the containers will be filled with oil again.. and then wait 5 minutes until the train returns and then go back.. Its a lot of wasted time where oil is going no where because the train is limited by space and the time it take to travel.. Maby do make a loop on this one, and have two trains running on it, so the oil dont stop and do nothing waiting for the pick up. Ofc if it dont fill up the entire train. it could just be done by having the oil filling up more containers so instead of the now 5 you found it took. in the time the train takes to go back and forth the platform can fill up 5 + what ever.. Again not entirely sure how it works 100%.. but well it seem like there is wasted time with the travel where oil isnt moved.
Ahh geez... Kibitz... please take into account Frieght Car capacity and Time. If you are putting 780 oil into a single Frieght Car and you need to move across the entire map.......... your losing a TON of efficiency. Fright Cars have a capacity of 3200 [OIL] and you want to jam 780 into one? Let's not be super precise with time measurements but just to give you a general ball park. Trains spend about 1 minute stopping from max speed and about 1 minute to reach max speed (longer for you since your train immediately has to go up a hill when leaving Oil Platform), that is 4 minutes of time spent just stopping and accellerating. Then there is the travel time at max speed, let's estimate it to about 3-4 minutes each way. Your round trip time in this case is: 1 minute acceleration from 'Merica Express 3+ minutes of max speed travel time 1 minute deceleration at Oil Platform (forgot to mention this) 30 seconds Load time 1 minute acceleration from Oil Platform 3+ minutes of max speed travel time 1 minute deceleration at 'Merica Express 30 seconds of Unload time A whopping 11 minutes of round trip time. 780 oil/m = 8,580 oil/11m You are losing 5380 oil a trip, PER FREIGHT CAR! I guess I'll continue: If you have 3450 Oil/m (this is bloated btw... 2 nodes are 1200 oil and you can cap at 780, so you actually produce 2,610 Oil/m... all further math will be based on this number number instead), that means you produce 28,710 oil per trip. If you divide this number by 3200 (Fright Car Capacity) you get 8.97. This means you need 9 Freight Cars to efficiently move all of your oil (if my 11 minute estimation is correct... you will want to time it and math this out more accurately later). That number is too close for comfort... I highly suggest making it 10 cars instead. Now this is the part where you want to make correct load balances... what you did......... ya... no more of that lol. You are going to want to make lines of 261 each or find a load balancer that accepts 9 inputs and allows 10 outputs. This can be made more simple with a 4 input and 5 output (split the 5 in two after the balance to get 10 output) if you make 4 lines. You can combine your lines into 2 780 lines (from the Pures) and 2 750 lines with Normal/Impures around there. That will get you your easily manageable 4 lines. the 4 into 5 balancers aren't too terribly difficult to setup either so you are basically done from there! I really hope you look at your comment section :( PS: Freight Platforms have a larger capacity than the cars. Don't get confused there!
Kibitz sometimes has great ideas, but ignores realities and circumstances. Here are some general rules for building trains. I measured the time it takes to get from grass fields to the north coast and it is 23 minutes for a roundtrip. Here is some rules I figured out that made my trains a lot more efficient: 1. Avoid alevations while building tracks. 4 m of height for every 25 m of Railroad seems to work well. Upon joining the game, your train can get stuck onan elevation and you have to manually restart it. 2. Do not put more than one train in one network with more than one path. Sounds crazy, but has turned out to be necessary. If two trains arrive at roughly the same time at a waypoint, Train 1 will go right and Train 2 goes left. However, their carts might get mixed up, turning your Refinery into a Bauxite Deposit. Or just getting your train stuck. A lot of work, but you have a bulletproof system. Speaking of: 3. Keep your designs simple and your complexity low. The AI of Satisfactory is not designed to make "intelligent" choices, but merely adhere to a given path. If you provide too many options (with a large complex junction), the AI will make mistakes and your supply is unreliable. I have established 4 trainlines that deliver resources from North, East and West to designated trainstations directly in the base, reconnecting them to their line with simple loops. No line connect with another. Total output is like 40 Turbomotors per minute. I have made only bad experiences with the push and pull system. 4. On a trainstation, every freight platform and every train cart connected to the entering train must be on the same level of elevation! If your drive into your station with your carts still pushing you from an elevation, any docking process will be interrupted and your train is stuck and will not procede. 5. Do not mix items in freight cars. 6. Do not use more than 12 freight cars. They make your train unreliable. 7. Trains are not as fast as you think they are. Sure, 20 (?) stacks of an item at once sounds like a lot, but it takes long for a train to accelerate, dock, and return. Oftentimes, it is viable to split even a weak resource node into 2 loading freight platforms for to increase transport capacity. Trains travel on 60kmh on average at best. To get from grass field starting biom to the oil fields in the northeast, you take 23 minutes for one cargo delivery. That is not very fast. 8. Keep the amount of train stations on one line as low as possible. Every additional train stations worsens transport time by a lot (roughly 160 seconds per stop compared to driving straight through). 9. Simple and sturdy is more reliable than complex solutions. I mostly prioritise reliability and low/no maintenance over great designs. Works well.
If it takes your train 23 minutes round trip then you did not build in a straight line. I have a similar line for oil abs mmt round trip is just a tad bit overt 10 minutes.
BTW, transporting resources by trains is heavily dependent on how long a round trip will take, for instance if you are using a fully saturated mk5 belt you will have to complete a round trip in under 4:06mins to be able to pull 780 per minute from the unloading station without it running dry waiting for the train to get back (3200/780 = just over 4.1) i would suggest you split all the mk5 belts at the loading station which will give the train 8:12mins to transport it instead. Long story short, if the freight car gets full from a round trip, use more freight cars.
Oh darn. I was sure the the freight cars could hold 4800 units, because that's the capacity of the freight stations, but they're actually smaller! That sucks! Anyhow, that's the same thing I was thinking of commenting about. I think I made a similar comment on Kibitz's video of the Bauxite station. Split/merge to balance the items equally among all stations to maximize throughput!
If ya ever need iron go to the top right corner of the map, that desert has about 15 pure iron nodes (they recently shuffled the positions of some of the nodes) Where you found that oil insane amount of oil used to be 5 pure iron nodes Edit: you should look up on the internet a satisfactory map, they show node positions and how pure they are
Thank you Kibitz! I've been trying to get a 3-stop train shuttle system working for over a week now, and you've apparently solved it with your train time table trick!
Sees new video of kibitz: HEY!!! SEEING heading: saying the word "oil": Hearing a American scream:"DID SOMEONE SAY OOOIIILLL!!! HEARING AMERICAN MUSIC!!!
I just got done building my oil field refinery pipeline thing in the north as well. 13 nodes all setup and lifting the oil way up into the sky then all piped to 1 central location. It was a seriously fun build. Then storing them all in 44 mk2 storage units till I get the rest of the refinery built. All.....of the oil. LOL
There's actually 3 more oil nodes over there... Go south a bit to the valley and look for a huge standing stone in the middle of it. Then look north. There are three more nodes REALLY close together there... and I think they're all Normal nodes.
Yay a kibby bitz video, I now have an explorer vanish under the map (shows as its on the edge of the lake like yours), found 3 more hidden caves in the most obvious places - must of gone past them 100’s of times 🤔 - and to top it of I found a death crate I lost 200+ hours ago in the most random place
You COULD also make plastic/fuel on location, and then export that to the base which would reduce the total items that your trains would have to carry. Plastic is made 3 plastic to 4 oil and fuel is 5 fuel per 8 oil. 3000 oil per minute drops to 1875 fuel per minute and 3000 oil per minute drops too 2250 plastic per minute. Not a whole lot I suppose, but it would add up over time.
Dude, with that long ass travel time, you could fill up all the cars with those oil nodes by the time the train gets to "oil platform", increasing your input at main base
Question. You have over 3000/minute oil being extracted via 5 freight cars, have you timed the trip to determine if the oil is being picked up as soon as the station is filled? You might have answered that during the video but I might have missed it. There are what, 48 slots in a car? 780/ minute means a car is full in a bit over 6 minutes. Is round trip faster than 6 minutes?
Freight car holds 3200 oil not 4800. Station had 48 slots cast has 32. If the loading station fills before the train gets back tho load again that is fine and really don't matter in the end. What matters is if the unloading station empties before the train gets back with full cars. Then the machines could run dry. Losing station backing up in reality is irrelevant. Unloading station backing up is also irrelevant. Either station running dry is all that really matters in the end because that is the only time production is affected.
I'm pretty sure that you are intended to have more then one train per track; like, you need to make a proper circuit for them to get around with, and then load a whole bunch onto the same track; just have them fucking packed nose to nose; probably a good idea to have some areas where they can change which direction their going in, or rather which track (or rather which side of the loop) their on, so that they can avoid getting in eachothers way.
I write my comments as I watch. Personally, I would process the oil on-site and the bring the plastic back. Mostly because you have all kinds of space out there. You really need two more sets of pillars on the train platform to keep my eye from twitching... The train cars work as your balancers. All you need to do is make sure every car is full before you pick up and unload. Then just pull from each unload station at the same rate.
'Murica station, sending the "freedom train" across the map to collect almost all of the oil on the planet. Hmmm...I almost feel like that was some kind of jab, except it's completely accurate lol. Thanks for uploading, always entertaining!!
The train schedule has a bug i guess. It sometimes skip a station and it goes straight from station 1 to station 3, skipping station 2. This makes problem. So when you double the stations, it skips the doubled station. So in station 1, skips doubled station 1, and go to station 2.
Like others have pointed out, I believe 780 fills out a container before the train makes a trip back and forth? :D amazing project though. Absolutely loving the dedication :D Hope you get partner soon on Twitch. Have a Prime sub that I need to put somewhere :D
hey, dunno if you'll read this, but I just wanted to say I absolutely enjoy watching your vids, and cant wait for the next one to come out. whatever your doing is working, and your channel deserves more attention because of it. btw I will try and check in on twitch as well, but yea; GL with getting to 100K subs!
Storage containers are terrible splitters. They work fine when they're full but when empty, they will happily feed the two output lines unevenly or even stuff everything to just one. And that "chosen one" may change on save/load.
On a single schedule you cannot go A->B->A because of that missing loop, BUT A->B is possible from leading locomotive, B ->B is possible with both, B->A is possible with trailing locomotive, so you Loop exists without a breakpoint.
You really inspired me to build unnecesarily big structures able to satisfy my needs in 5 minutes for forever but also stay epic looking with stupid numbers for forever. I love you Kib 💓
I like so much your videos :D just one ask, seems like you can use 2 trains on the same trail because they didnt colision so that can speed up the long travel trains? IDK really didnt tryed to put 2 IA trains with the same route for now.
How are your fps in your main base? Mine dropped significantly when I kept all my factories open. Now I section everything off with walls to keep my fps high when I'm in my main base.
Fun fact: the original name for the American operations in the middle east was Operation Iraqi Liberation (O.I.L. 😏) but was changed to Operation Iraqi Freedom (O.I.F. 🤣) I love your new station names 🤣🤣🤘✌
I thought you needed a extra train because the reload speed of MK5 belts would be faster then 1 train could not handle at 5 slots being used so you would split them into more waggons so you could transfer more at once since these trains are not at factorio hight speed xD
Since your using nuclear power now Kibitz, can't you just turn off your regular power stations? Or have you done so? Particularly your power stations that use fuel and then just retask that to your plastic manufacturing?
The alt plastic recipe uses more oil and power than the regular one. Below I will give an example of each recipe making 135 plastic/min. In both cases the oil would come from a single none overclocked oil pump on one pure oil node. For the regular recipe you would need 180 oil/min (60 oil/min left over) and 4 oil refineries - With the oil pump it used a total of 340 MW of power. The Alt recipe needs 240 oil/min and would use 6 refineries (4 making rubber 2 making fuel) and 4 assemblers to convert the fuel and rubber into plastic. With the oil pump you would use a total of 400 MW for that setup.
@@KnightRanger38 I had my math wrong on this recipe. I assumed that it used more power but worked out to more plastic per oil (like other alts). Now I wonder what its use is supposed to be in the game.
Unless they've changed things in the last few updates since I was up there the desert in the north-east right near the edge of the map has 10 nodes right in one small area and then there were 3 more slightly to the west of them like 1000-1500m or so. There are also 6 oil nodes in the south-east area around a small lake with the giant multi-level mushroom like things. They have added more oil nodes on the coast there though since I last played in that area in an older build of mine so they may have added to or removed some of the other nodes now. On that old build there were only 6 nodes on the coast so I was surprised to see 8 now but are there actually more than that?
@@Ethan-rz6cx and more space for other resources to transport, for example quartz :D Good thing i did not watch the stream, so if he decides to do it, he have to rebuild a bunch of things again. But i am sure he loves it, he does that all the time :D
Some Dudes getting triggered about ur loadbalancing, just wanted to say keep up the cool videos mistake happen and so far u didnt do any :) great effort u put into those videos anyways thanks for that!
BTW working on a stream schedule, but regardless there over on Twitch:
www.twitch.tv/imkibitz
I tried watching a couple of your twitch streams while I was slacking at work, err.... I mean when I was on break....but it was only audio?
Ok it’s just I can’t use twitch so I can’t watch you stream
Great improvment! like the developing of your Business, see u there!!!!!
Your vids are great, when I wake up I check for new vids of your, aka I love you
Trains just dont seem like a smart idea..
Ofc I might miss the entire point..
But there is going to be a lot of wasted time.. the oil will fill the container, the train then drive to your base.. and then in a few seconds the containers will be filled with oil again.. and then wait 5 minutes until the train returns and then go back..
Its a lot of wasted time where oil is going no where because the train is limited by space and the time it take to travel..
Maby do make a loop on this one, and have two trains running on it, so the oil dont stop and do nothing waiting for the pick up.
Ofc if it dont fill up the entire train. it could just be done by having the oil filling up more containers so instead of the now 5 you found it took. in the time the train takes to go back and forth the platform can fill up 5 + what ever..
Again not entirely sure how it works 100%.. but well it seem like there is wasted time with the travel where oil isnt moved.
Ahh geez... Kibitz... please take into account Frieght Car capacity and Time. If you are putting 780 oil into a single Frieght Car and you need to move across the entire map.......... your losing a TON of efficiency.
Fright Cars have a capacity of 3200 [OIL] and you want to jam 780 into one? Let's not be super precise with time measurements but just to give you a general ball park. Trains spend about 1 minute stopping from max speed and about 1 minute to reach max speed (longer for you since your train immediately has to go up a hill when leaving Oil Platform), that is 4 minutes of time spent just stopping and accellerating. Then there is the travel time at max speed, let's estimate it to about 3-4 minutes each way.
Your round trip time in this case is:
1 minute acceleration from 'Merica Express
3+ minutes of max speed travel time
1 minute deceleration at Oil Platform
(forgot to mention this)
30 seconds Load time
1 minute acceleration from Oil Platform
3+ minutes of max speed travel time
1 minute deceleration at 'Merica Express
30 seconds of Unload time
A whopping 11 minutes of round trip time.
780 oil/m = 8,580 oil/11m
You are losing 5380 oil a trip, PER FREIGHT CAR!
I guess I'll continue: If you have 3450 Oil/m (this is bloated btw... 2 nodes are 1200 oil and you can cap at 780, so you actually produce 2,610 Oil/m... all further math will be based on this number number instead), that means you produce 28,710 oil per trip. If you divide this number by 3200 (Fright Car Capacity) you get 8.97. This means you need 9 Freight Cars to efficiently move all of your oil (if my 11 minute estimation is correct... you will want to time it and math this out more accurately later). That number is too close for comfort... I highly suggest making it 10 cars instead.
Now this is the part where you want to make correct load balances... what you did......... ya... no more of that lol. You are going to want to make lines of 261 each or find a load balancer that accepts 9 inputs and allows 10 outputs. This can be made more simple with a 4 input and 5 output (split the 5 in two after the balance to get 10 output) if you make 4 lines. You can combine your lines into 2 780 lines (from the Pures) and 2 750 lines with Normal/Impures around there. That will get you your easily manageable 4 lines. the 4 into 5 balancers aren't too terribly difficult to setup either so you are basically done from there!
I really hope you look at your comment section :(
PS: Freight Platforms have a larger capacity than the cars. Don't get confused there!
Kibitz sometimes has great ideas, but ignores realities and circumstances. Here are some general rules for building trains. I measured the time it takes to get from grass fields to the north coast and it is 23 minutes for a roundtrip. Here is some rules I figured out that made my trains a lot more efficient:
1. Avoid alevations while building tracks. 4 m of height for every 25 m of Railroad seems to work well. Upon joining the game, your train can get stuck onan elevation and you have to manually restart it.
2. Do not put more than one train in one network with more than one path. Sounds crazy, but has turned out to be necessary. If two trains arrive at roughly the same time at a waypoint, Train 1 will go right and Train 2 goes left. However, their carts might get mixed up, turning your Refinery into a Bauxite Deposit. Or just getting your train stuck. A lot of work, but you have a bulletproof system. Speaking of:
3. Keep your designs simple and your complexity low. The AI of Satisfactory is not designed to make "intelligent" choices, but merely adhere to a given path. If you provide too many options (with a large complex junction), the AI will make mistakes and your supply is unreliable.
I have established 4 trainlines that deliver resources from North, East and West to designated trainstations directly in the base, reconnecting them to their line with simple loops. No line connect with another. Total output is like 40 Turbomotors per minute. I have made only bad experiences with the push and pull system.
4. On a trainstation, every freight platform and every train cart connected to the entering train must be on the same level of elevation! If your drive into your station with your carts still pushing you from an elevation, any docking process will be interrupted and your train is stuck and will not procede.
5. Do not mix items in freight cars.
6. Do not use more than 12 freight cars. They make your train unreliable.
7. Trains are not as fast as you think they are. Sure, 20 (?) stacks of an item at once sounds like a lot, but it takes long for a train to accelerate, dock, and return. Oftentimes, it is viable to split even a weak resource node into 2 loading freight platforms for to increase transport capacity. Trains travel on 60kmh on average at best. To get from grass field starting biom to the oil fields in the northeast, you take 23 minutes for one cargo delivery. That is not very fast.
8. Keep the amount of train stations on one line as low as possible. Every additional train stations worsens transport time by a lot (roughly 160 seconds per stop compared to driving straight through).
9. Simple and sturdy is more reliable than complex solutions. I mostly prioritise reliability and low/no maintenance over great designs. Works well.
@@irrelevantirrelevant7332 Thanks for all the Tips!
Wow greeny would be pleased
thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank yoooooooooooooooooou
If it takes your train 23 minutes round trip then you did not build in a straight line. I have a similar line for oil abs mmt round trip is just a tad bit overt 10 minutes.
every time you say we dont need to worry again, i just know 2 episodes later we need like double
Almost opposite with electricity he has a LOT of capacity but always needlessly makes more
thatd be true in some cases or he could just overclock them all then boom infinite oil
11:48 americans, look away, this might be disturbing
Bwhahaha
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 × 0
i laughed at that part
I can’t believe he did that.
Got'em 🤣🤣🤣🤘
BTW, transporting resources by trains is heavily dependent on how long a round trip will take, for instance if you are using a fully saturated mk5 belt you will have to complete a round trip in under 4:06mins to be able to pull 780 per minute from the unloading station without it running dry waiting for the train to get back (3200/780 = just over 4.1) i would suggest you split all the mk5 belts at the loading station which will give the train 8:12mins to transport it instead.
Long story short, if the freight car gets full from a round trip, use more freight cars.
Oh darn. I was sure the the freight cars could hold 4800 units, because that's the capacity of the freight stations, but they're actually smaller! That sucks!
Anyhow, that's the same thing I was thinking of commenting about. I think I made a similar comment on Kibitz's video of the Bauxite station. Split/merge to balance the items equally among all stations to maximize throughput!
If ya ever need iron go to the top right corner of the map, that desert has about 15 pure iron nodes
(they recently shuffled the positions of some of the nodes)
Where you found that oil insane amount of oil used to be 5 pure iron nodes
Edit: you should look up on the internet a satisfactory map, they show node positions and how pure they are
I love these episodes man, it‘s just so entertaining and I wanna thank you for that!
Thank you Kibitz! I've been trying to get a 3-stop train shuttle system working for over a week now, and you've apparently solved it with your train time table trick!
Sees new video of kibitz: HEY!!!
SEEING heading: saying the word "oil": Hearing a American scream:"DID SOMEONE SAY OOOIIILLL!!!
HEARING AMERICAN MUSIC!!!
I just got done building my oil field refinery pipeline thing in the north as well. 13 nodes all setup and lifting the oil way up into the sky then all piped to 1 central location. It was a seriously fun build. Then storing them all in 44 mk2 storage units till I get the rest of the refinery built.
All.....of the oil.
LOL
I love your satisfactory videos pls make more satisfactory videos.
So satisfying to see those oil barrels move on the conveyer belts!
The man who provides relaxation by driving himself insane kibitz the best
There's actually 3 more oil nodes over there... Go south a bit to the valley and look for a huge standing stone in the middle of it. Then look north. There are three more nodes REALLY close together there... and I think they're all Normal nodes.
"After today, we never have to worry about _____ again!"
Here we go again boys
Quantum computers say hi XD
omg! how did't i see those oil fields! i freakin love your content, subbed!
Yay a kibby bitz video, I now have an explorer vanish under the map (shows as its on the edge of the lake like yours), found 3 more hidden caves in the most obvious places - must of gone past them 100’s of times 🤔 - and to top it of I found a death crate I lost 200+ hours ago in the most random place
Of course, anytime imkibitz says something like “never have to worry about (insert resource here) again, he means for the next like 3 weeks.
@15:25 Kibz, never feel like you have to justify building something. Build m'boy, BUILD!!
You COULD also make plastic/fuel on location, and then export that to the base which would reduce the total items that your trains would have to carry. Plastic is made 3 plastic to 4 oil and fuel is 5 fuel per 8 oil. 3000 oil per minute drops to 1875 fuel per minute and 3000 oil per minute drops too 2250 plastic per minute. Not a whole lot I suppose, but it would add up over time.
normal people: i need 90 oil! thats ganna take some time..
imkibitz: 3,450 oil?? piece of cake
it's a joy watching you build to the limit! i can't wait for this to release on steam!
You can get the game right now on the epic games store
@@shaggysneakyamulet874 "can" and "will" are not the same thing. lol
Dude, with that long ass travel time, you could fill up all the cars with those oil nodes by the time the train gets to "oil platform", increasing your input at main base
16:32 made me like the video, pretty funny joke
Really wish these were longer! Don't cut out as much! :P
The coolest Factory on RUclips! Love your vids!
Question. You have over 3000/minute oil being extracted via 5 freight cars, have you timed the trip to determine if the oil is being picked up as soon as the station is filled? You might have answered that during the video but I might have missed it. There are what, 48 slots in a car? 780/ minute means a car is full in a bit over 6 minutes. Is round trip faster than 6 minutes?
Freight car holds 3200 oil not 4800. Station had 48 slots cast has 32. If the loading station fills before the train gets back tho load again that is fine and really don't matter in the end. What matters is if the unloading station empties before the train gets back with full cars. Then the machines could run dry. Losing station backing up in reality is irrelevant. Unloading station backing up is also irrelevant. Either station running dry is all that really matters in the end because that is the only time production is affected.
YEAAAH ANOTHER EPISODE
I'm pretty sure that you are intended to have more then one train per track; like, you need to make a proper circuit for them to get around with, and then load a whole bunch onto the same track; just have them fucking packed nose to nose; probably a good idea to have some areas where they can change which direction their going in, or rather which track (or rather which side of the loop) their on, so that they can avoid getting in eachothers way.
Noce, thank you, I'm enjoying every video of yours! Ohh those numbers, never tough someone is able to process all zhe oil on the map
Well this is by far the beat video ever hahaha " merica station "
I write my comments as I watch.
Personally, I would process the oil on-site and the bring the plastic back. Mostly because you have all kinds of space out there.
You really need two more sets of pillars on the train platform to keep my eye from twitching...
The train cars work as your balancers. All you need to do is make sure every car is full before you pick up and unload. Then just pull from each unload station at the same rate.
'Murica station, sending the "freedom train" across the map to collect almost all of the oil on the planet. Hmmm...I almost feel like that was some kind of jab, except it's completely accurate lol. Thanks for uploading, always entertaining!!
The train schedule has a bug i guess. It sometimes skip a station and it goes straight from station 1 to station 3, skipping station 2. This makes problem. So when you double the stations, it skips the doubled station. So in station 1, skips doubled station 1, and go to station 2.
Like others have pointed out, I believe 780 fills out a container before the train makes a trip back and forth? :D amazing project though. Absolutely loving the dedication :D Hope you get partner soon on Twitch. Have a Prime sub that I need to put somewhere :D
hey, dunno if you'll read this, but I just wanted to say I absolutely enjoy watching your vids, and cant wait for the next one to come out. whatever your doing is working, and your channel deserves more attention because of it. btw I will try and check in on twitch as well, but yea; GL with getting to 100K subs!
I think your the only main YTer that still plays Satisfactory and I find that sad because its a really good game.
Storage containers are terrible splitters. They work fine when they're full but when empty, they will happily feed the two output lines unevenly or even stuff everything to just one. And that "chosen one" may change on save/load.
"We got... derailed" I audibly groaned and wanted to be mad but I was just so happy about how bad it was 😅
funny I just stumbled on that oil area too last week
me* just about to go to bedgets yt notificationalso me* yeets blankets across room to watch kibitz
On a single schedule you cannot go A->B->A because of that missing loop, BUT A->B is possible from leading locomotive, B ->B is possible with both, B->A is possible with trailing locomotive, so you
Loop exists without a breakpoint.
Hello Kibitz!
I was going down my inbox I saw ur vid and was like yes my daily satisfactory dose
6:41 kibbs i think todd howard at bethesda has a job for you
You really inspired me to build unnecesarily big structures able to satisfy my needs in 5 minutes for forever but also stay epic looking with stupid numbers for forever. I love you Kib 💓
Dear Kibs,
As an Albertan I find that waste of Oil unsettling as well. :P
I like so much your videos :D
just one ask, seems like you can use 2 trains on the same trail because they didnt colision so that can speed up the long travel trains?
IDK really didnt tryed to put 2 IA trains with the same route for now.
when you don't have enough oil to make plastic 1:38
There are four more oil nodes near the east end of that big desert canyon on land.
Look out, America may hear you
We already have.
How are your fps in your main base? Mine dropped significantly when I kept all my factories open. Now I section everything off with walls to keep my fps high when I'm in my main base.
RIP early access creations, you've served well
I think i would just make a lane balancer going from x number of input belts to x number of output belts, and just use the mk5 belts for all of it
You have Beter Rezept for the hispeedconetor 😂
70 hours on my first map it would make you cry the mess is beyond irreparable
after watching your channel i started a new base and slowly fixing it
maybe making some sort of "roundabout" of belts could work for load balancing?
Fun fact: the original name for the American operations in the middle east was Operation Iraqi Liberation (O.I.L. 😏) but was changed to Operation Iraqi Freedom (O.I.F. 🤣) I love your new station names 🤣🤣🤘✌
@imkibitz You should use the new plastic alternate recipe which uses gas and rubber. Should require less refineries
Is there such a thing as a born Satisfactory compere? I think we've found one.
I thought you needed a extra train because the reload speed of MK5 belts would be faster then 1 train could not handle at 5 slots being used so you would split them into more waggons so you could transfer more at once since these trains are not at factorio hight speed xD
The oil receiving station should be called "Freedom Dispersion Expo".
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I love these vids!! :D
Since your using nuclear power now Kibitz, can't you just turn off your regular power stations? Or have you done so? Particularly your power stations that use fuel and then just retask that to your plastic manufacturing?
I'm leaving the other power stations as emergency backups in case something goes wrong with the Nuclear Plant
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You can make almost 260,000 mega watts from that much oil a minute lol. You can get around 22,500 megawatts for 300m^3 of oil.
Did you pause to halt the production?
Looks like this planet needs some FREEEEEEDOOOOOOMMMM!!!!
Watching this now knowing all this becomes obsolete when the pipes update comes out. Oof.
name the oil stop - Norway xD
I believe kibitz ultimate goal is to see how far he can push the game till it breaks
Are you using a mod to package it up without making the packages?
Kibitz, use the alt you got last episode to get more plastic per oil!!!!!!
Rubber + Fuel = Plastic
The alt plastic recipe uses more oil and power than the regular one.
Below I will give an example of each recipe making 135 plastic/min. In both cases the oil would come from a single none overclocked oil pump on one pure oil node.
For the regular recipe you would need 180 oil/min (60 oil/min left over) and 4 oil refineries - With the oil pump it used a total of 340 MW of power.
The Alt recipe needs 240 oil/min and would use 6 refineries (4 making rubber 2 making fuel) and 4 assemblers to convert the fuel and rubber into plastic. With the oil pump you would use a total of 400 MW for that setup.
@@KnightRanger38 I had my math wrong on this recipe. I assumed that it used more power but worked out to more plastic per oil (like other alts). Now I wonder what its use is supposed to be in the game.
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The water there is buggy and you can walk through underbeneeth the surface
This guy is the US humanized
Always wanting more oil
I did this sort of thing with iron in the wasteland. (There are 13 pure nodes up there...)
There should be more oil nodes than the eight over there, i think you missed a couple
Unless they've changed things in the last few updates since I was up there the desert in the north-east right near the edge of the map has 10 nodes right in one small area and then there were 3 more slightly to the west of them like 1000-1500m or so. There are also 6 oil nodes in the south-east area around a small lake with the giant multi-level mushroom like things.
They have added more oil nodes on the coast there though since I last played in that area in an older build of mine so they may have added to or removed some of the other nodes now. On that old build there were only 6 nodes on the coast so I was surprised to see 8 now but are there actually more than that?
Kibitz you should name the train BOB
B ig O il B oy
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Me: (Loving your videos and wanting to comment something right now)
Also me: (Not knowing what to post)
ImKibitz: (Still being AMAZING)
you misspelled Murica ;)
I thought you would call it the Roil express
There's that much oil right next to my base?! Looks like I have something I need to get on as soon as my nuclear is done now.
He should call that new oil area "BP"
Holy sweet jesus! All that oil wasted! It's terrible, Linda hide the children!!
How dare you waste that oil!? Dinosaurs fought and more importantly died for that oil!
It wouldn't be easyer to process the oil there, and than transpport just the finished product?
Mihály Dózsa it probably takes up less space in the train allowing for faster refining
@@Ethan-rz6cx and more space for other resources to transport, for example quartz :D Good thing i did not watch the stream, so if he decides to do it, he have to rebuild a bunch of things again. But i am sure he loves it, he does that all the time :D
As an American, throwing away all that oil hurt my Bald Eagle organs
Wait! Since when there were oil over there?? 😯
Have you thought about using a train to bring items up?
4 more pure nodes of oil to exploit in the West sea 😉
You missed your chance to call the train station "Big OIL Stoppo One" @ImKibitz
Yeah that "oil and walking" story isn't true but I like it "I was watching the stream"
Just wait till turbo motors kibbitz, they're even worse than supercomputers
Actually one of the alternate recipes for Radio Control Units used in Turbo Motors uses supercomputers :)
@@KnightRanger38 did not know that, makes it slightly better I guess
Some Dudes getting triggered about ur loadbalancing, just wanted to say keep up the cool videos mistake happen and so far u didnt do any :) great effort u put into those videos anyways thanks for that!
how big is that save file?!
around 250 mb
yaknow why not just blow up the moth......I havent really thought of doing that but i wounder if they made it possible to do that
Hi kibitz could you stream on RUclips and twitch there is an app called streamlabs were you can do that
I will only be streaming on Twitch