Man attack ads used to be wild. "Vote for me or the whole goddamn planet is literally going to explode in a nuclear apocalypse." Certainly a far cry from taking today's tactics of using quotes out of context.
While not the biggest landslide, I thought it would be funny to mention 1932, Franklin D. Roosevelt vs Herbert Hoover. FDR won 88.9% of electoral votes, and 57.4% of the popular vote. One man from Illinois wrote to Hoover saying "Vote for Roosevelt and make it unanimous."
To be fair, the only reason he didn’t win more was because Hawaii and Alaska weren’t states yet, and this he couldn’t get electoral votes from there. No other candidate in history was able to drive down their opponent to 8 votes.
It's also worth noting that Roosevelt was still only a state governor (NY) -and nationally untested- (edit: Wrong, he was another candidate's VP), though he benefited from having the Roosevelt name (a major political dynasty in and around NYC before then), from having been the running mate of the last, losing Democratic ticket run against Hoover's first bid, and from not being Catholic (which had previously doomed Al Smith). He also campaigned partly on full repeal of Prohibition. Because of the Depression being associated with Hoover (unfairly, imho), it was really Roosevelt's election to lose. But he still performed incredibly well, and only increased on that total as the elections went on. FDR ran his campaigns well.
Fun fact: Alf's daughter ran for the Senate used a surname that contained both her married nane and her maiden name for greater appeal as the daughter of a former governor, during the campaign. After winning election Senate, she eventually dropped Landon from her public name entirely, amd was known as: Nancy Kassebaum.
My parents would joke somewhat bitterly that “I was told if I voted for Goldwater we would be at war within 2 years and there would be riots in the streets. I voted for Goldwater and we ended up at war and there were riots in the streets”.
@@Simp44 You mean a defense against the arab hoarde trying to steal a holy land not belonging to them [arabs]..... then yes. The only palastine that exists is the British Mandate.
A Goldwater supporter said "They told me if I voted for Goldwater, we'd end up in a war in Vietnam. I voted for Goldwater and, sure enough, we ended up in a war in Vietnam."
Jahsiah Bowie kinda poor quality if you ask me that you would rather make your political opponent look bad rather than focus on what you are trying to promote
@@benyseus6325 I feel like that depends because student government elections are usually just a popularity contest so if the predicted victor of said election is an obviously poor choice and make promises they obviously can't keep (random bs like "phones out at lunch" or something) and don't understand how any of it works then I feel like the smaller candidates going after the larger one is justifiable in that case the reason why it is a lot more difficult to justify this in actual government is because it's much less obvious and a lot harder to prove so generally when people target their oponents in ads it's not really justifiable
You described John Major as a banker, but you missed out that he started life in a circus family, and had applied for a job as a bus conductor on London Transport (and failed to get it). This led to the joke that he was the only boy ever to run away from a circus to become an accountant!
Doubtful. Over recent decades the Democrats have grown increasingly instinctively wary of even *rhetoric* that invokes the "liberty" concept too heavily. The Republicans, in line with this, have embraced it with increasing zeal, even as they fail to live up to it more and more. Interestingly, the Democrats would have grown increasingly comfortable with the rhetoric in Goldwater's next line: "...Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
One of my personal favourites in my home country (🇬🇧) is the 2015 general election, the Liberal Democrat’s went from 57 seats to just 8, the leader Nick Clegg even lost his own seat to the Labour Party and they haven’t really recovered since then only winning 13 seats at the recent general election.
For non-Brits, the Liberal Democrats were formed in the late 80s and consistently got 50-60 seats in each election up to and including 2010. Everyone knew that there was no chance of them ever leading, but they did get votes. In 2010, no party won a majority: the Conservatives won nearly 100 seats, led by David Cameron, Labour lost nearly 100 seats, led by Gordon Brown (who had never been in an election before, had absolutely no charisma, particularly compared to Blair or Cameron, and had the terrible luck of being PM during the financial crisis), and the UK was stuck with its first hung parliament since the 70s. The Conservatives formed a coalition with the Liberal Democrats (Labour was closer ideologically and could have formed a coalition, but the electorate had clearly rejected them), and Nick Clegg became Deputy Prime Minister. This is the closest the Liberal Democrats as they are now have ever got to leading the country, although the Liberal Party was once the main opponent to the Conservatives. Clegg and the Lib Dems then proceeded to break or fail to implement all of their promises, including to stop tuition fees from increasing and starting a referendum to implement a ranked voting system instead of FPTP, which they lost, thus failing in one of the very few chances the UK will probably ever get to replace that system because no Conservative or Labour leader would ever want to get rid of it. 2015 was the next election, and the comment above tells you how badly it went. In 2017 and 2019, the Lib Dems continued to get around 10 seats per election and the party is now completely fucked. In the election in 2019, the very young Jo Swinson, who had been elected party leader only a few months earlier, was by far the most unlikeable, delusional, condescending party leader, quite a feat considering how controversial both Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn can be. She seriously thought she would be the next Prime Minister, and ran on the promise of completely cancelling Brexit. Labour’s loss is commonly blamed on either Corbyn’s unpopularity or the wishy washy policy on Brexit, which was an attempt to unite the pro-EU Blairites in his party with the pro-Brexit Northerners who had voted Labour reliably since Thatcher closed the mines and unemployment skyrocketed there. Corbyn himself had always been against the EU, literally since it was created, until Brexit happened and suddenly Brexit became a Tory thing, so he was in the horrible position of having to please Leave voters while also being the main opposition against Boris ‘Get Brexit Done’ Johnson and having to appeal to Remainers. Corbyn ran promising a second referendum and got his ass handed to him for it, Swinson wanted to cancel it completely, and she campaigned on empty establishment platitudes in an election where both Labour and the Tories were quite populist (in different ways). She ended up losing her seat and being forced to resign as party leader after only about six months. She seriously thought she would be Prime Minister.
@@clemandax9242 Nicola Sturgeon came on all sympathetic about Jo Swinson , fellow female party leader losing her seat - but NS had been caught on camera just before , revelling in her defeat , in what was an undignified and unpleasant manner. Such is politics.
I was speaking with a British Tory some years ago. At the time he and many of his friends figured Major would lose in a close race in 1992 and give Labour a minority or small majority government that would not last long. The Tories would then chose someone like Portillo as party leader and win a majority once the Labour government elected in 1992 fell. Instead Major won a majority and a full term in office. So the party refresh that should have happened after 1992 did not happen. By 1997 the Tories were tired from being in government too long and the EU issue was bubbling up. One irony of the EU issue is that in the 1975 referendum the Thatcher lead Tories were pro-EU, Labour took no official position (Corbyn was an out voter in 1975) and the SNP supported out. In 1983 the Labour manifesto called for Britain to leave the EEC. This is why the Brexit issue is more complex that Tories out and Labour in.
Absolutely right on all counts. There was real fear within CCHQ (Conservative HQ) at the time that the election was simply too close to call and all the polling seemed to reflect that - even the exit polls at the start of the count reflected that. As it turned out, the Tories limped on for another five years and Major became the second, perhaps third Conservative Prime Minister to be forced from office partly due to issues over Europe. The SNP are a very broad tent even today. You have the more conservative "tartan Tories" in the rural areas of Scotland on one side followed by the more left wing radicals/green party leaning members in the urban areas of Aberdeen, Glasgow, etc. They're the ones who organise the madcap movements such as All Under One Banner that the SNP leadership are trying to bring under control.
Prestwickuk good point regarding referendum being too close to call. Maybe we could do with some kind of requirement for referenda to fulfill to stop ambiguous, close-call results that end up hurting a nation for years
Goldwater’s slogan was ‘In your heart you know he’s right’, so the Democrats made slogans parodying that. Another one was ‘In your heart you know he might’, as in ‘you know he might use nukes’.
In Greece, the dominant for 30 years social democratic party went from 43% in 2009 to 13% in 2012 and unlike other parties in the video hasn't bounced back since, winning only 7% of the votes on the last election.
And the "Radical Left" party, SYRIZA, that destroyed PASOK eventually just came to displace them in name on the political spectrum, acting like a run-of-the-mill establishment social-democrat party, and were duly crushed themselves in the recent elections by the resurgent establishment nationally dominant party (center-right) that had been written off as dinosaurs just a bit earlier. In Spain as well the "radical left" and "radical centrist" parties that were hyped as the fresh new force in politics have collapsed in support, as the fusty old two-party duopoly earlier as dead is making quite a resurgence. Some "revolutionary" parties have turned out to be "all hat and no cattle" as we say in the USA. By the way, I have always loved how all your party acronym names somewhat "sound Greek," at least to English-speaking ears, despite the fact that there's little reason they should.
@@notepad9883 It's true that many party acronyms "sound Greek", as unlike other countries, they are made to sound like proper words instead of initials (PA.SO.K instead of PSK). sometimes they sound just like regular words (Syriza means "with the root" because they are supposed to be radical)
@@franciscojcsa6127 Holy shit you're right! I actually didn't believe it--or I thought, well maybe in Greek, in which case it makes sense they'd focus on PASOK. But it really is true; so cool!
The disappearance of PASOK is a real surprise as it was for decades the main Greek left-of-centre party, generally led by one of the Papandreou family. It was united before the 1967 coup d'état whereas the conservative parties were divided. When the Colonels' regime fell in 1974, Konstantinos Karamanlis created a single right-of-centre party, New Democracy, and this alternated with PASOK on a two-party system for nearly 40 years. How PASOK gave way to SYRIZA in the 2010s is not really understood by non-Greeks. Whether SYRIZA will stay as the left-of-centre party competing with ND remains to be seen. Karamanlis's creation is back in power (2019 General Election) and voters seem to accept that it has a father-and-son tradition of leaders - Karamanlis - Mitsotakis - Karamanlis (son) - Mitsotakis (son) with one break (Samaras was leader in the 2000s).
@@C1azed He is referring to the fact that there have been provincial elections in Canada in which the Liberals won every single seat. I believe JJ was limiting the scope of this video to federal politics though.
Spitting Image was as brilliant as its caricature puppets were grotesque. See every episode you can get your hands on if you have even the remotest knowledge of the 80s; it holds up splendidly. JJ didn't even show the worst of the Blair puppet, nor was that puppet close to the worst of them. It's distinguished only by being the only Spitting Image puppet that was less of an abomination than the human being it parodied.
There are a couple of examples I can think of in New Zealand: The centre-right National Party is nicknamed the 'natural party of government' but in 2002, they crashed to just 21% of the vote and 27/120 seats, which I would put down to the popularity at the time of Labour and its leader Helen Clark, while its leader Bill English was rather like John Major in that he was seen as a kind of dull leader. We also have a multi-party system, so voters could go for populist New Zealand First (10.38%, 13 seats), hard neoliberal/right-of-National ACT (7.14%, 9 seats), or centrist United Future (6.69%, 8 seats) without worrying it would be a wasted vote. Such was National's fall that none of those three parties has matched those figures since. In the MP era, the worst Labour loss came in 2014, when they received just 25.14% and 32/120 seats, and followed from an only slightly better showing in 2011. I would put this down to the popularity of National John Key and the leadership chasm left after Helen Clark departed in 2008. At first, senior cabinet minister Phil Goff took over but reigned after the disastrous 2011 result. Ambitious David Cunliffe was the obvious successor, but an ABC faction (Anyone But Cunliffe) supported David Shearer instead, who like Ignatieff had a distinguished career outside politics (he's even now heading the UN Mission in South Sudan) but who had little real political experience. Facing terrible polling, Cunliffe was able to topple him in 2013, however 2014 was still a disaster in part because Cunliffe just proved to be unlikable and had own goals like saying 'sorry for being a man'. 2014 was also affected by Kim Dotcom's involvement, which I think ended up tainting the entire left by association and saw a reaction against perceived foreign interference. And likewise again, people could vote for minor parties without fearing a wasted vote so much, and this saw Greens get over 10% & over 10 seats for the second of only two times ever so far, and the first time was 2011. Populist New Zealand First who can appeal to left and right picked up 8.66% and 11 seats. As a bit of a postscript, Cunliffe would be dumped after that election and replaced by Andrew Little who was beginning to poll even worse leading into the 2017 election. 2 months out he was replaced by Jacinda Ardern, and the rest is history. And after writing all that, I hope people actually find it interesting
I watch Mr. Beat sometimes, and he comes across as a bit obnoxious, as I see a lot of "Leftish" content. I do like J.J. a lot. On the whole, I have seen most gay people to be normal sorts. I myself seem to be a curmudgeon in training. As I've just made 50, I'll probably gain that title sooner than later. When in the 4th grade at Sunnyside elementary, I wondered why I felt more in agreeance with my Grandparents generation. (G.I.s)
@@tomfrazier1103 Your comment about gay people is more than a bit obnoxious. Not too bright of a thing to say, especially for someone who's just made 50. Gay people are "normal sorts" in that they've been everywhere imaginable, in all societies, in all of mankind since its beginning. You must've grown up in an underprivileged situation which is totally at the fault of your parents. You're actually too young to have grown up with such backward ideas. Frankly, you come across as a fucking fool to be surprised that J.J. would have something of worth to offer to you. Cheers!
I think it's safe to say the 2019 election in the UK will be a particularly noteworthy one in coming years. The Labour party were really in a situation where they couldn't win no matter what side they took on the Brexit issue as their voter base is heavily split between working class, largely pro-Brexit voters in the north of England and younger, more middle class and anti-Brexit voters in the south east. While it's not likely fence sitting won them a lot of votes, taking a hardline pro-Brexit stance could have lost them much of London to the Lib Dems, and likewise taking a hardline anti-Brexit stance would have alienated much of their core voter base in the north.
In one of JJ's QQ&A videos he was asked what he thinks about Brexit and he said something like, he does not have a view but he does think that if Britain thinks the Commonwealth (places like Canada and Australia) will drop everything and make new trade agreements to help Britain after Brexit that's not going to happen. He also said he is is not that bothered about Brexit and that view he has of Brexit kind of sums up Britain's place in the world, one that people who voted Brexit don't seem to what to see. Britain voted in a PM who at the stat of the whole should we stay or not stay in the EU vote was on the stay side and only joined the Don't stay side after the stay in the EU vote had been lost so he could become leader of the Tory party (after the last leader and PM quit) and one day PM. Britain as a country have shoot themselves in the foot and the 2019 election in future years to come will only remind Britain that as Brexit will be bad as the EU is Britain's largest trade partner. Also your be shocked to find out just how many rich people living in the south of England voted for Brexit and how many hedge funds will make lots of money out of Brexit. Nigel Farage (the guy who founded the Brexit party in the mid 90's) is an person who worked for companies who run hedge funds.
The one tagline I remember more from the 2011 Canadian election was "Michael Ignatieff: Just Visiting". The fact that he promptly high-tailed it to a cushy, tenured position at an American ivy-league university (Harvard, IIRC) after losing only vindicated the ad campaign.
I think the reason McGovern was a much greater failure to the Democratic Party than Mondale was because Mondale lost from the strength of Reagan, while McGovern lost because people really hated McGovern. In an alternate reality against a generic Republican, Mondale would’ve stood a chance, but McGovern probably would’ve even lost to Goldwater And I think the fact that the Watergate scandal would blow up only a few months after McGovern’s defeat added to the dramatic tragedy of it all
Barry Goldwater & George McGovern would later appear on the same television program to discuss the 1988 election. Despite being ideologically far apart, their discussion was pretty cordial, and they both take shots at the sour campaign strategies used during the '88 election. It's here on RUclips if you're interested. What's also quite funny about them is both Goldwater & McGovern were men of strong integrity who lost to men of considerably less strong integrity.
@@UnVictor because if you want the conservatives to go down to just 2 seats, then another party would have to take all the seats they actually have. The only party that could do that is the People's Party. I do not see the Liberal, NDP, or the Green Party take the seats of places where people want to exploit oil.
You are correct to call McGovern's defeat worse than Mondale's. While both of them carried only one state, Mondale at least was able to carry his home state of Minnesota. McGovern's humiliation was worse because even his home state of South Dakota rejected him.
In Ireland the most one sided election ever was the 1919 British general election. In Ireland there 106 seats up for grabs. Excluding Ulster (which is historically unionist and didn't become part of Ireland) the Sinn Fein party went against the IPP (Irish parliamentary party) and Sinn Fein took all but 3 seats in what would become the Republic Post independence the most convincing win was the FG-Lab coalition of 2011 where the opposition party got just 19 seats compared to the the over 110 seats of the coalition (of 166)
@@Gallalad1 I'm from Belfast, UK. I haven't seen the regional election results as of now. All the people I know including I and the region are British not Irish just putting that out there 😃🇬🇧
In the Philippines, the Liberal Party have a great disaster in the last May 2019 elections. They got 0 seats in the Senate. And 14 in the house. Plus, the President coalition got a lot of seat, a solid majority.
It was fascinating to see a clip from Tony Schwartz “Daisy” tv commercial in today’s essay. “Daisy” also known as “He loves me,” would make a solid starting point for a great essay on media and politics • Thanks again for another great essay today JJ. Happy New Year
Aeromatic and Ramsay McDonald’s defeat in 1935. For those wondering, this was labour’s worst defeat before Corbyn. Edit: I know he was talking about post-war defeats but I think him mentioning McDonald’s defeat as an aside would’ve been nice.
@@martinfawkes595 McDonald broke with the Labour Party in 1931. His National Labour group was a small ally of the Conservative Party in the National government years. McDonald resigned as Prime Minister before the 1935 general election and the National government won a very large victory in 1935. The worst Labour result, since the First World War, was that of Arthur Henderson's led party in 1931. Henderson lost his own seat and only 52 Labour MPs were elected (of whom 6 were unendorsed by the Labour Party).
A few American landslides : 1800 - Thomas Jefferson had 69% of the popular vote 1804 - Thomas J. had 73% of the popular vote 1808 - James Madison had 65% of the popular vote 1816 - James Monroe had 68% of the popular vote 1820 - James Madison had 81% of the popular vote 1832, 1836, 1904, 1924 and 1933 would be here but they only had big victory margins due to vote splitting 1864 - Abraham Lincoln had 55%, but I only put him here for his clean 10% victory margin 1920 - Warren G. Harding had 60% of the popular vote 1936 - FDR had 61% of the popular vote 1956 - Dwight D. Eisenhower had 57% of the popular vote 1964 - Lyndon B. Johnson had 61% of the popular vote 1972 - Richard Nixon had 61% of the popular vote If you read this whole comment, you are a legend.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 Goldwater never changed his opinions much. Goldwater for most his life was a libertarian, not a staunch conservative, and his stance on gay rights was as such motivated by desire for a lack of government interference in people's lives.
It's interesting hearing about Jack Layton, as I was too young to remember him much. What I remember is seeing people say 'a leader you could get a beer with', and then hearing of his death. It's interesting because I (being a kid whose parents don't vote 🙃) remember having to learn in highschool that the NDP don't win federally. His name seemed as big or bigger than the others, so I figured the NDP were one of the big 2.
A good example is what happened in Ireland in the 2011 general election, when the incumbent party, Fianna Fáil, went from 78 seats (41.6% of the vote) to just 20 seats (17.4%) and 3rd place. *Background coming soon in the replies ... it's quite a story*
Fianna Fáil had won the most seats at every general election since 1932 and had been in power for 61 of those 79 years. In 2011, they had been in power since 1997 and were coming to the close of their 3rd consecutive term. In 2008, their leader, Bertie Ahern, retired after 11 years as Taoiseach (prime minister), mostly due to the fact he was one of the most corrupt politicians in Irish history, and was replaced by his hand-picked successor, Brian Cowen. Cowen had served as finance minister, but he turned out to be seen as Ireland's worst Taoiseach, overseeing the financial crisis and loss of economic sovereignty Ireland suffered as a result of the Great Recession. By the winter of 2010/11, Cowen had lost all support from his own party, his coalition partners walked out from the government, and the opposition lodged not one but two motions of no confidence. On top of this, so many cabinet ministers resigned that there were only 7 left (the minimum allowed by the Constitution)! As a result, Cowen called a general election for February 2011 and announced his resignation as Fianna Fáil leader (although he would remain as Taoiseach until after the general election). The parliamentary party quickly elected Micheál Martin (pronounced Mee-hall) as leader. In the election, Fianna Fáil fell to 3rd place. Their traditional rivals, Fine Gael, rose to 1st place for the first time with the traditionally 3rd-placed Labour Party finishing an impressive 2nd place. Fine Gael and Labour formed a grand coalition (with Fine Gael leader, Enda Kenny becoming Taoiseach) and Micheál Martin became Leader of the Opposition. He led Fianna Fáil into the next election in 2016 where the party rose to 2nd place, finishing only 6 seats behind Fine Gael. Labour went from 37 seats to just 6 (which, I believe, is *their* worst defeat). Fine Gael's worst defeat was probably the 2002 general election, but that's a story for another time.
There’s this one guy who has been running for commissioner of my village (similar to mayor). He has been running for it every election since I’ve been alive. He has not once gotten higher than 1% of the vote
Major's circumstances make me think that a video about great "Comeback elections" would be pretty good. As in: a video about the greatest disparities between an elected candidate that had previously lost.
Speaking of major losses, please do a video on Gough Whitlam, or at least look him up! First non-conservative Prime Minister of Australia in 23 years, in power for only 3 (but won 2 elections, it's weird), then became the first and only Australian PM to be SACKED by the Governor-General, then lost half his parties seats in an election. Super Dramatic and Shakespearian.
What was Michael Ignatieff thinking? The very idea that a celebrity with no real world political experience could become a world leader is utterly ridiculous. Oh. . . . Hang on . . . .
The worst showing for an incumbent president in America was George Bush Sr's in 1992. Like John Major and the Conservative Party, he represented a tired branch of the Republican Party (which had at that point been in control for 11 years) and was endangered by a young, charismatic centre-left candidate-- in this case, Bill Clinton, who, like Blair, ended up having his presidency ridden with scandals. It also didn't help that one Ross Perot from Texas ran a centrist, populist, and isolationist campaign and did surprisingly well for a third candidate. President Bush ended up getting only 37.5% of the popular vote and 168 electoral votes out of 538.
Can we talk about how almost every US presidential election from 1824 to 1916 was pretty close. Almost none of them had a win margin of more than 10%. Crazy that for 92 years most elections were pretty close.
As a colleague recounted to me about the 1964 Election, "They told me that if I voted for Goldwater, that within a year we would be in a war. I did, and indeed, within a year, we were at war."
Another huge landslide loss that comes to mind was the 1987 New Brunswick provincial election. When Richard Hatfield lost ALL seats in the election. In fact, Frank McKenna's liberals swept all 58 seats. Not sure how often that happens! Hatfield had become super unpopular because of the Bricklin fiasco a decade earlier, then was caught with marijuana at an airport (during a royal visit, no less!), and spent a lot of money flying back and forth to parties in NYC with the government plane (earning the nickname "Disco Dick").
Here in Uruguay, one of the biggest flops of our political history was the defeat of the Colorado Party in the 2004 general election. In 1999 Jorge Batlle from that party was elected President after defeating Tabaré Vázquez (Broad Front) in the second round with the 54% of the votes, despite losing in the first round, only delaying the inevitable rise to power of the Broad Front, which had been gaining a lot of popularity since the 1994 elections and in 1999 actually won the majority in both chambers. The Colorado Party needed to form a coalition for the second round with their all-time rivals, the National Party, to win the presidency. After facing the worst economic crisis in our history in 2002, and despite applying economic measures that later would lead to the bonanza Uruguay had in the late '00s and early '10s, the Colorado Party which had ruled the country in all but 9 democratic periods, dropped from 33% obtained in the first round of the 1999 election to only 10% in the 2004 election, which was the only since two-round system was introduced that didn't need a second round to define the winner. The Broad Front won this election with 51% of the votes. Until now, the Colorado Party hasn't recovered from this, obtaining between 12 and 18% of the votes in the following three general elections (2009, 2014 and 2019). It's also noteworthy that in the last general election, the irruption of the populist right-wing party Cabildo Abierto "stole" many votes from both traditional parties, which are more center-right-wing catch-all parties, and even some from the Broad Front, which was one of the reasons the Colorado Party couldn't profit from the popularity loss the Broad Front suffered, which lead to their narrow defeat in this year elections. Actually, the Colorado Party and Cabildo Abierto were almost tied, something very unusual in our politics (this new party was created this very year, and the Colorado Party, like the National Party are almost as old as the country itself.)
As a Canadian, the election where Kim Campbell lost reminds me of a joke my father used to tell me. “What’s the difference between Kim Campbell, and the OC Transport? The OC has more seats”
You didn't mention John Turner who was the Liberal standard bearer in 1984. A former Cabinet Minister in Pierre Trudeau's government, actually elevated to Finance Minister after Mitchell Sharpe resigned. In 1977 after a spat over the Budget he resigned. After Trudeau resigned he come back to the Party to be named leader on June 30,1984. Looked on as a young charismatic leader and a natural Prime Minister he proceeded to lose the election the following over the next 80 days.
Nice Video J.J! Here are some thoughts: -Ill have to pick McGovern as the worse defeat because, imma be honest here, almost everyone expected the result of 84’. Mondale only won Minnesoda by i think 0.1% of the vote and many News outlets were talking of the possibility of a 50 state sweep for Reagan. -Michael Foot was actually the worst Labour Defeat when you count the popular vote percentage. Foot did get 209 seats but only 27% of the Popular vote. Corbyn got 203 seats but still had 32.1% of the popular vote. Odd, yes. Conservative Defeats...... Yup it was Major Alright. His defeat was a Major one. -Canada..... yeah Campbell Screwed over the PC Party...... P.S: try to make a video on Philippine Politics... politics here is a bit.... weird.
I definitely agree that McGovern’s defeat was worse than Mondale’s, because although he got one more electoral vote than Mondale, he also reasonably had a shot. Given how massively popular Reagan was and the general “Reagan Revolution”, I don’t think anybody was gonna even come close to him in ‘84.
John Major sounds like Bush Sr, facing a primary challenge from the right and being defeated in a landslide by young 40-something year old charismatic centrist
I am surprised he didn't mention the 1992 British Election without referring to the Sun newspaper's famous headline "It's the Sun Wot Won It". The day b4 they had a photo of Labour Leader Neil Kinnock with the headline " If this man is elected PM today will the last person to leave Britain please turn out the lights" Ouch!!!
For US elections, check out Franklin Roosevelt versus Alf Landon in 1936. FDR took 523 electoral votes versus 8 for Landon (winning only Maine and Vermont) - FDR's 98.5 percent of the electoral vote is the largest electoral vote win (based on percent of electoral vote available) outside of George Washington's two unanimous elections.
Ramsey McDonald’s betrayal of his party (though it is more complicated than that historically) and subsequent defeat of Labour is probably another electoral defeat worth looking at if you do a follow up
@@AVeryRandomPerson December update: Alvaro just tried again to ran for president but it was denied again due to unpaid taxes and workers exploitations accusations that have come forward.
@@willypro4949 aw... is it like how people roast Jeb Bush here in the US? Lol he’s strangely wholesome and I don’t agree with the Bushes politically but I like Jeb as a person. Him and all his weird wholesomeness.
George McGovern, perhaps one of the most honest of American political leaders, was nominated for TIME's 'Man of the Year' in 1974 for never having said, "I told you so..."
Goldwater wasn't exactly an advocate for traditional values. He was pro-choice on abortion, supported gay marriage and legalizing marijuana, and was deeply critical of the influence religious conservatives had in the GOP during his later years. In short, he was more of a libertarian than a traditional conservative. And by electoral votes, Mondale's loss in 1984 was worse for Democrats than McGovern's. He got only 13 electoral votes from Minnesota and DC and came within a few thousand votes of being shut out in all 50 states. Also, I wouldn't exactly call Labour's defeat in 2019 "crushing." They did surprisingly well in the southeast part of England, holding a normally safe Conservative seat in Canterbury they picked up in 2017 and gaining at least one seat from Conservatives in Greater London.
Fun fact: It was revealed in 2002 that John Major and Edwina Currie (another politician) had had a relationship between 1983 and 1988, despite being married to separate people. This sparked the humorous phrase “Major loves a curry on Friday”, which is still sometimes used in connotation to him.
On a Provincial level in Canada, there have been a few lopsided defeats for an incumbent party... 2018: Kathleen Wynne, LIB, Ontario: 55 > 7 2015: Jim Prentice, PC, Alberta: 70 > 10 2001: Ujjal Dosanjh, NDP, British Columbia: 39 > 2 1990: David Peterson, LIB, Ontario: 95 > 36 1987: Richard Hatfield, PC, New Brunswick: 39 > 0 1985: Pierre-Marc Johnson, PQ, Quebec: 80 > 23 1976: Robert Bourassa, LIB, Quebec: 102 > 26
Man attack ads used to be wild. "Vote for me or the whole goddamn planet is literally going to explode in a nuclear apocalypse." Certainly a far cry from taking today's tactics of using quotes out of context.
I mean we still have that in a way except instead of nukes it's "Vote for me or climate change will drown us all"
24 hours to save healthcare as we know it is a popular rallying cry in the UK.
The quote was quite powerful considering the context.
That exact ad showed a little girl playing in a field right before the world exploded. It’s known as the worst ad of all time
@@caiawlodarski5339 what?
While not the biggest landslide, I thought it would be funny to mention 1932, Franklin D. Roosevelt vs Herbert Hoover. FDR won 88.9% of electoral votes, and 57.4% of the popular vote. One man from Illinois wrote to Hoover saying "Vote for Roosevelt and make it unanimous."
That's awesome
I'm actually surprised FDR didn't win more of the popular vote
@@horricule451 He ended up winning more of the popular vote in 1936.
To be fair, the only reason he didn’t win more was because Hawaii and Alaska weren’t states yet, and this he couldn’t get electoral votes from there. No other candidate in history was able to drive down their opponent to 8 votes.
It's also worth noting that Roosevelt was still only a state governor (NY) -and nationally untested- (edit: Wrong, he was another candidate's VP), though he benefited from having the Roosevelt name (a major political dynasty in and around NYC before then), from having been the running mate of the last, losing Democratic ticket run against Hoover's first bid, and from not being Catholic (which had previously doomed Al Smith). He also campaigned partly on full repeal of Prohibition.
Because of the Depression being associated with Hoover (unfairly, imho), it was really Roosevelt's election to lose. But he still performed incredibly well, and only increased on that total as the elections went on. FDR ran his campaigns well.
I think that we can officially say that 1997 is no longer the worst electoral defeat for the UK Conservative Party
Couldn't agree more, 121 seats is pathetic
cheers sunak!
Worst election in Conservative Party history
@@bendybus5165liz truss and Johnsons fault more than his, but still kinda his fault
It never was. Even if you don’t count 1832, 1906 was similarly terrible and also had much less disastrous vote share gap.
McGovern would probably be one of the best names of any president
sammelons Senator Sheldon Whitehouse begs to differ. Imagine the Whitehouse White House...
There's a McDonalds pun in there somewhere.
Governor McGovern
What a coincidence when I was reading this he said McGovern at the exact moment
Sounds like a fake name an educational video explaining what the president does would use.
A shout out to my boy Alf Landon, the Kansas governor who got his butt whooped in the election of 1936, Great video, J.J.
Fun fact: Alf's daughter ran for the Senate used a surname that contained both her married nane and her maiden name for greater appeal as the daughter of a former governor, during the campaign.
After winning election Senate, she eventually dropped Landon from her public name entirely, amd was known as: Nancy Kassebaum.
Mr. Beat hey Mr. Beat, I realized that too, (i mean 523-8) butt kick
I love your videos.
@@historyhub9211Me too.
MrBeat HELLO!
For those wondering, that LBJ ad with the nuke, is a really famous attack ad known as the "Daisy" ad. It's one of the classics in American ad history
My parents would joke somewhat bitterly that “I was told if I voted for Goldwater we would be at war within 2 years and there would be riots in the streets. I voted for Goldwater and we ended up at war and there were riots in the streets”.
ya
It was highly effective.
@@iammrbeat That it was. Love your videos btw
I wrote my undergrad thesis on how Johnson's 64 campaign was the first true "modern" campaign. I titled it "Pushing Up Daisy."
In Israel, every election is the worst election defeat in history for several parties.
Does it really count when like half the parties don't even pass the bar into the Knesset?
Right now everyone is a loser in the Knesset. Two elections and still no coalition
Israel isn't a country though, it's an occupying Zionist army.
@@Simp44 just go away
Nobody asked for your opinion
@@Simp44 You mean a defense against the arab hoarde trying to steal a holy land not belonging to them [arabs]..... then yes.
The only palastine that exists is the British Mandate.
A Goldwater supporter said "They told me if I voted for Goldwater, we'd end up in a war in Vietnam. I voted for Goldwater and, sure enough, we ended up in a war in Vietnam."
Same with McGovern and amnesty-ing the draft-dodgers.
leopardsatemyface much
@@williamwingo4740 I noticed that first, but it took the guy after Nixon to pardon the draft dodgers.
@@tomipcfto That would be Gerald Ford (U.S. Navy, WWII), of course. Later, Jimmy Carter (Annapolis graduate) confirmed it.
@@veryblocky no he lost. The joke wooshed you heavily
I think I’m gonna steal “In your guts you know he’s nuts” for my next student government election
Jahsiah Bowie kinda poor quality if you ask me that you would rather make your political opponent look bad rather than focus on what you are trying to promote
@@benyseus6325 I mean, Canuck & 'Murican election cycles have been doing that for ages, so...
Seniour BurritoFace doesnt mean you should follow their example so....
@@benyseus6325 I don't disagree, I'm just saying it's been (occasionally) working for them
@@benyseus6325 I feel like that depends because student government elections are usually just a popularity contest so if the predicted victor of said election is an obviously poor choice and make promises they obviously can't keep (random bs like "phones out at lunch" or something) and don't understand how any of it works then I feel like the smaller candidates going after the larger one is justifiable in that case the reason why it is a lot more difficult to justify this in actual government is because it's much less obvious and a lot harder to prove so generally when people target their oponents in ads it's not really justifiable
You described John Major as a banker, but you missed out that he started life in a circus family, and had applied for a job as a bus conductor on London Transport (and failed to get it). This led to the joke that he was the only boy ever to run away from a circus to become an accountant!
Which is funny because my mom always used to use the expression that someone "ran away and joined the circus."
Joke after Kim Campbell’s defeat:
Q: What’s the difference between the Conservative Party and a Honda Civic?
A: A Honda Civic has more seats.
🇨🇦
Canada always a few years behind the rest of the anglosphere
?
How are they similar? You shouldn't let women drive them.
Too bad it did not stay that way.
Erik Van der Zee said the Rhodesian
"in your guts you know he's nuts."
absolute gold.
The irony is Goldwater was saner than LBJ.
“Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice” interesting quote just because both sides could probably invoke that
@@howdydoo9148 Coldwater was dead then
DwRockett so what’s considered extreme? cause I’m pretty sure we nuked Japan for this very reason..........twice.
Doubtful. Over recent decades the Democrats have grown increasingly instinctively wary of even *rhetoric* that invokes the "liberty" concept too heavily. The Republicans, in line with this, have embraced it with increasing zeal, even as they fail to live up to it more and more.
Interestingly, the Democrats would have grown increasingly comfortable with the rhetoric in Goldwater's next line: "...Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
Wuanslm I really couldn’t care less. It’s a joke. War is war, sucks to lose.
Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah literally watched that when it was uploaded.
One of my personal favourites in my home country (🇬🇧) is the 2015 general election, the Liberal Democrat’s went from 57 seats to just 8, the leader Nick Clegg even lost his own seat to the Labour Party and they haven’t really recovered since then only winning 13 seats at the recent general election.
Back when the lib dems were politically relevant
To be fair, Nick Clegg held his seat (Sheffield Hallam) in 2015, but lost it in the 2017 election, iirc
For non-Brits, the Liberal Democrats were formed in the late 80s and consistently got 50-60 seats in each election up to and including 2010. Everyone knew that there was no chance of them ever leading, but they did get votes. In 2010, no party won a majority: the Conservatives won nearly 100 seats, led by David Cameron, Labour lost nearly 100 seats, led by Gordon Brown (who had never been in an election before, had absolutely no charisma, particularly compared to Blair or Cameron, and had the terrible luck of being PM during the financial crisis), and the UK was stuck with its first hung parliament since the 70s. The Conservatives formed a coalition with the Liberal Democrats (Labour was closer ideologically and could have formed a coalition, but the electorate had clearly rejected them), and Nick Clegg became Deputy Prime Minister. This is the closest the Liberal Democrats as they are now have ever got to leading the country, although the Liberal Party was once the main opponent to the Conservatives. Clegg and the Lib Dems then proceeded to break or fail to implement all of their promises, including to stop tuition fees from increasing and starting a referendum to implement a ranked voting system instead of FPTP, which they lost, thus failing in one of the very few chances the UK will probably ever get to replace that system because no Conservative or Labour leader would ever want to get rid of it.
2015 was the next election, and the comment above tells you how badly it went. In 2017 and 2019, the Lib Dems continued to get around 10 seats per election and the party is now completely fucked.
In the election in 2019, the very young Jo Swinson, who had been elected party leader only a few months earlier, was by far the most unlikeable, delusional, condescending party leader, quite a feat considering how controversial both Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn can be. She seriously thought she would be the next Prime Minister, and ran on the promise of completely cancelling Brexit. Labour’s loss is commonly blamed on either Corbyn’s unpopularity or the wishy washy policy on Brexit, which was an attempt to unite the pro-EU Blairites in his party with the pro-Brexit Northerners who had voted Labour reliably since Thatcher closed the mines and unemployment skyrocketed there. Corbyn himself had always been against the EU, literally since it was created, until Brexit happened and suddenly Brexit became a Tory thing, so he was in the horrible position of having to please Leave voters while also being the main opposition against Boris ‘Get Brexit Done’ Johnson and having to appeal to Remainers. Corbyn ran promising a second referendum and got his ass handed to him for it, Swinson wanted to cancel it completely, and she campaigned on empty establishment platitudes in an election where both Labour and the Tories were quite populist (in different ways). She ended up losing her seat and being forced to resign as party leader after only about six months. She seriously thought she would be Prime Minister.
Also in 2015, UKIP got nearly 4 million votes and got 1 seat. I don’t care what you think of UKIP, that’s bullshit.
@@clemandax9242 Nicola Sturgeon came on all sympathetic about Jo Swinson , fellow female party leader losing her seat - but NS had been caught on camera just before , revelling in her defeat , in what was an undignified and unpleasant manner. Such is politics.
I was speaking with a British Tory some years ago. At the time he and many of his friends figured Major would lose in a close race in 1992 and give Labour a minority or small majority government that would not last long. The Tories would then chose someone like Portillo as party leader and win a majority once the Labour government elected in 1992 fell. Instead Major won a majority and a full term in office. So the party refresh that should have happened after 1992 did not happen. By 1997 the Tories were tired from being in government too long and the EU issue was bubbling up.
One irony of the EU issue is that in the 1975 referendum the Thatcher lead Tories were pro-EU, Labour took no official position (Corbyn was an out voter in 1975) and the SNP supported out. In 1983 the Labour manifesto called for Britain to leave the EEC. This is why the Brexit issue is more complex that Tories out and Labour in.
It's crazy now that the SNP used to be anti EU.
Absolutely right on all counts. There was real fear within CCHQ (Conservative HQ) at the time that the election was simply too close to call and all the polling seemed to reflect that - even the exit polls at the start of the count reflected that.
As it turned out, the Tories limped on for another five years and Major became the second, perhaps third Conservative Prime Minister to be forced from office partly due to issues over Europe.
The SNP are a very broad tent even today. You have the more conservative "tartan Tories" in the rural areas of Scotland on one side followed by the more left wing radicals/green party leaning members in the urban areas of Aberdeen, Glasgow, etc. They're the ones who organise the madcap movements such as All Under One Banner that the SNP leadership are trying to bring under control.
Prestwickuk good point regarding referendum being too close to call. Maybe we could do with some kind of requirement for referenda to fulfill to stop ambiguous, close-call results that end up hurting a nation for years
@@krombopulos_michael the SNP are nothing more than opportunists. Scottish Independence is all they care about.
EU Issue
1983:
Con- Yes
Lab- No
2019:
Con- No
Lab- Yes? Maybe?
Tony Blair:I'm young and hip
John Major: *ok boomer*
Never in my life I thought that I would see this meme
Zenchowlee ok bourgeois
And boomers like Blair suck as Prime Ministers as well, go figure
@@seanw1186 ok bolshy
@@TomorrowWeLive Man has a literal fascist symbol in his profile picture, gtfo of here with that hateful shit.
2020 campaigns: "man, these ads are getting out of control playing on our emotions"
1964 campaigns: "hold my cold war beer"
Dual Citizen dead meme stfu
Dual Citizen just wait until we get world war 3 ads lmfao
@@colton.421 the goddamn timing.
That cold war beer would be Schlitz.
The Daisy Ad worked, and it only aired once.
3:19 "In your guts you know he's nuts" hahhahahaha I'm stealing that.
Goldwater’s slogan was ‘In your heart you know he’s right’, so the Democrats made slogans parodying that. Another one was ‘In your heart you know he might’, as in ‘you know he might use nukes’.
I should make a button that says "In your guts, i'll drain my nuts" for when i go to the bar to pick up the chicks
@33kaus holokaust ok boomer
@RYLE SALUNGA i don't remember but it appears they deleted their comment
In Greece, the dominant for 30 years social democratic party went from 43% in 2009 to 13% in 2012 and unlike other parties in the video hasn't bounced back since, winning only 7% of the votes on the last election.
And the "Radical Left" party, SYRIZA, that destroyed PASOK eventually just came to displace them in name on the political spectrum, acting like a run-of-the-mill establishment social-democrat party, and were duly crushed themselves in the recent elections by the resurgent establishment nationally dominant party (center-right) that had been written off as dinosaurs just a bit earlier. In Spain as well the "radical left" and "radical centrist" parties that were hyped as the fresh new force in politics have collapsed in support, as the fusty old two-party duopoly earlier as dead is making quite a resurgence. Some "revolutionary" parties have turned out to be "all hat and no cattle" as we say in the USA.
By the way, I have always loved how all your party acronym names somewhat "sound Greek," at least to English-speaking ears, despite the fact that there's little reason they should.
@@notepad9883 It's true that many party acronyms "sound Greek", as unlike other countries, they are made to sound like proper words instead of initials (PA.SO.K instead of PSK). sometimes they sound just like regular words (Syriza means "with the root" because they are supposed to be radical)
Fun Fact: the decline of Social-democrats all over europe is nicknamed “Pasokification”
@@franciscojcsa6127 Holy shit you're right! I actually didn't believe it--or I thought, well maybe in Greek, in which case it makes sense they'd focus on PASOK. But it really is true; so cool!
The disappearance of PASOK is a real surprise as it was for decades the main Greek left-of-centre party, generally led by one of the Papandreou family. It was united before the 1967 coup d'état whereas the conservative parties were divided. When the Colonels' regime fell in 1974, Konstantinos Karamanlis created a single right-of-centre party, New Democracy, and this alternated with PASOK on a two-party system for nearly 40 years. How PASOK gave way to SYRIZA in the 2010s is not really understood by non-Greeks. Whether SYRIZA will stay as the left-of-centre party competing with ND remains to be seen. Karamanlis's creation is back in power (2019 General Election) and voters seem to accept that it has a father-and-son tradition of leaders - Karamanlis - Mitsotakis - Karamanlis (son) - Mitsotakis (son) with one break (Samaras was leader in the 2000s).
I'm calling it, Kim Campbell's Tories being obliterated off the face of the planet is going to be the Canadian one
Chris Probst you called it right!
Funny you should mention a face...
Well J.J. (apparently) keeps forgetting that in 1935 the Liberals won every seat on Prince Edward Island and in 1987 in New Brunswick
@@inwalters what r u saying?
@@C1azed He is referring to the fact that there have been provincial elections in Canada in which the Liberals won every single seat. I believe JJ was limiting the scope of this video to federal politics though.
the Tony Blaire puppet is nightmare fuel
Leo Seguin “Please don’t try me at The Hague for war crimes”
Many Spitting image puppets are nightmare fuel.
They have slugs and snakes.
Spitting Image was as brilliant as its caricature puppets were grotesque. See every episode you can get your hands on if you have even the remotest knowledge of the 80s; it holds up splendidly.
JJ didn't even show the worst of the Blair puppet, nor was that puppet close to the worst of them. It's distinguished only by being the only Spitting Image puppet that was less of an abomination than the human being it parodied.
The puppets were weird and gross looking but Spitting Image is a classic if you ask me.
There are a couple of examples I can think of in New Zealand:
The centre-right National Party is nicknamed the 'natural party of government' but in 2002, they crashed to just 21% of the vote and 27/120 seats, which I would put down to the popularity at the time of Labour and its leader Helen Clark, while its leader Bill English was rather like John Major in that he was seen as a kind of dull leader. We also have a multi-party system, so voters could go for populist New Zealand First (10.38%, 13 seats), hard neoliberal/right-of-National ACT (7.14%, 9 seats), or centrist United Future (6.69%, 8 seats) without worrying it would be a wasted vote. Such was National's fall that none of those three parties has matched those figures since.
In the MP era, the worst Labour loss came in 2014, when they received just 25.14% and 32/120 seats, and followed from an only slightly better showing in 2011. I would put this down to the popularity of National John Key and the leadership chasm left after Helen Clark departed in 2008. At first, senior cabinet minister Phil Goff took over but reigned after the disastrous 2011 result. Ambitious David Cunliffe was the obvious successor, but an ABC faction (Anyone But Cunliffe) supported David Shearer instead, who like Ignatieff had a distinguished career outside politics (he's even now heading the UN Mission in South Sudan) but who had little real political experience. Facing terrible polling, Cunliffe was able to topple him in 2013, however 2014 was still a disaster in part because Cunliffe just proved to be unlikable and had own goals like saying 'sorry for being a man'. 2014 was also affected by Kim Dotcom's involvement, which I think ended up tainting the entire left by association and saw a reaction against perceived foreign interference. And likewise again, people could vote for minor parties without fearing a wasted vote so much, and this saw Greens get over 10% & over 10 seats for the second of only two times ever so far, and the first time was 2011. Populist New Zealand First who can appeal to left and right picked up 8.66% and 11 seats.
As a bit of a postscript, Cunliffe would be dumped after that election and replaced by Andrew Little who was beginning to poll even worse leading into the 2017 election. 2 months out he was replaced by Jacinda Ardern, and the rest is history.
And after writing all that, I hope people actually find it interesting
"The peas are lovely today Norma" John Major
Rishi was Recked today. Rishi made Major look like a huge win.
JJ might need to make a sequel to this after the next UK election
I have been watching Mr. Beat for years. I even met him in real life in July. I am very glad he introduced me to JJ. Very high quality.
Beat can’t be beat!
I watch Mr. Beat sometimes, and he comes across as a bit obnoxious, as I see a lot of "Leftish" content. I do like J.J. a lot. On the whole, I have seen most gay people to be normal sorts. I myself seem to be a curmudgeon in training. As I've just made 50, I'll probably gain that title sooner than later. When in the 4th grade at Sunnyside elementary, I wondered why I felt more in agreeance with my Grandparents generation. (G.I.s)
@@tomfrazier1103 Your comment about gay people is more than a bit obnoxious. Not too bright of a thing to say, especially for someone who's just made 50. Gay people are "normal sorts" in that they've been everywhere imaginable, in all societies, in all of mankind since its beginning. You must've grown up in an underprivileged situation which is totally at the fault of your parents. You're actually too young to have grown up with such backward ideas. Frankly, you come across as a fucking fool to be surprised that J.J. would have something of worth to offer to you. Cheers!
@@archraskal it's people like you who fuel homophobia.
@@leepreston1337 Now, that's stupid.
I think it's safe to say the 2019 election in the UK will be a particularly noteworthy one in coming years. The Labour party were really in a situation where they couldn't win no matter what side they took on the Brexit issue as their voter base is heavily split between working class, largely pro-Brexit voters in the north of England and younger, more middle class and anti-Brexit voters in the south east. While it's not likely fence sitting won them a lot of votes, taking a hardline pro-Brexit stance could have lost them much of London to the Lib Dems, and likewise taking a hardline anti-Brexit stance would have alienated much of their core voter base in the north.
In one of JJ's QQ&A videos he was asked what he thinks about Brexit and he said something like, he does not have a view but he does think that if Britain thinks the Commonwealth (places like Canada and Australia) will drop everything and make new trade agreements to help Britain after Brexit that's not going to happen. He also said he is is not that bothered about Brexit and that view he has of Brexit kind of sums up Britain's place in the world, one that people who voted Brexit don't seem to what to see.
Britain voted in a PM who at the stat of the whole should we stay or not stay in the EU vote was on the stay side and only joined the Don't stay side after the stay in the EU vote had been lost so he could become leader of the Tory party (after the last leader and PM quit) and one day PM. Britain as a country have shoot themselves in the foot and the 2019 election in future years to come will only remind Britain that as Brexit will be bad as the EU is Britain's largest trade partner.
Also your be shocked to find out just how many rich people living in the south of England voted for Brexit and how many hedge funds will make lots of money out of Brexit. Nigel Farage (the guy who founded the Brexit party in the mid 90's) is an person who worked for companies who run hedge funds.
The one tagline I remember more from the 2011 Canadian election was "Michael Ignatieff: Just Visiting". The fact that he promptly high-tailed it to a cushy, tenured position at an American ivy-league university (Harvard, IIRC) after losing only vindicated the ad campaign.
I think the reason McGovern was a much greater failure to the Democratic Party than Mondale was because Mondale lost from the strength of Reagan, while McGovern lost because people really hated McGovern. In an alternate reality against a generic Republican, Mondale would’ve stood a chance, but McGovern probably would’ve even lost to Goldwater
And I think the fact that the Watergate scandal would blow up only a few months after McGovern’s defeat added to the dramatic tragedy of it all
It’s nice to wake up to a JJ video on my birthday. Keep up your videos JJ!
lifeofaaron it’s just for you!
Happy Birthday
happy birthday aaron! :)
Happy Birthday.
Barry Goldwater & George McGovern would later appear on the same television program to discuss the 1988 election. Despite being ideologically far apart, their discussion was pretty cordial, and they both take shots at the sour campaign strategies used during the '88 election. It's here on RUclips if you're interested.
What's also quite funny about them is both Goldwater & McGovern were men of strong integrity who lost to men of considerably less strong integrity.
Winston Churchill’s election loss in 1945 was impressive
Probably the most shocking in British history
@@willkp50 Polls weren't as accurate or as widespread back then as they are now, but what few did exist predicted a Labour victory.
Given he won again so soon after
@@JRWall-hf9mq in an almost landslide victory
@@JRWall-hf9mq I never denied it
Do Australia, New Zealand, and Ireland next. This was epic.
In Australia we have several.
-1993
-1998
-2001
-2004
-2010
-2019
That video would be amazing.
@@Coolsomeone234 are those really that dramatic though? Australian Labor hasn't even had majorities in both the house and senate once this century
@@jojbenedoot7459 now 2021 in WA...
@@Coolsomeone234 they win state governments but this video was about federal elections
I was only 11 at the time, but I remember the PC's being reduced to a mere two seats
Jeremy Kershaw should happen again tbh
@@UnVictor So all those seats can go to the PPC? Interesting.
THEY CALL ME BIG JIM what do you mean by that?
Ananas Studio lmao fuck no, those guys are white nationalists.
@@UnVictor because if you want the conservatives to go down to just 2 seats, then another party would have to take all the seats they actually have. The only party that could do that is the People's Party. I do not see the Liberal, NDP, or the Green Party take the seats of places where people want to exploit oil.
You are correct to call McGovern's defeat worse than Mondale's. While both of them carried only one state, Mondale at least was able to carry his home state of Minnesota. McGovern's humiliation was worse because even his home state of South Dakota rejected him.
Great video. Makes me want to dig even more to find out even more landslide defeats in the world!
Great video.
Please do another one covering Australia, New Zealand and Ireland one day if possible.
In Ireland the most one sided election ever was the 1919 British general election. In Ireland there 106 seats up for grabs. Excluding Ulster (which is historically unionist and didn't become part of Ireland) the Sinn Fein party went against the IPP (Irish parliamentary party) and Sinn Fein took all but 3 seats in what would become the Republic
Post independence the most convincing win was the FG-Lab coalition of 2011 where the opposition party got just 19 seats compared to the the over 110 seats of the coalition (of 166)
Republic of Ireland is Irish 🇮🇪 Northern Ireland is British 🇬🇧
@@beaucaspar3990 clearly you didn't see the latest election results ;) how does it feel to know unionism is a minority in the north?
@@Gallalad1 I'm from Belfast, UK. I haven't seen the regional election results as of now.
All the people I know including I and the region are British not Irish just putting that out there 😃🇬🇧
@@beaucaspar3990 congrats, you've shown you live in an echo chamber which is now a minority as of the latest election
@@Gallalad1 Wether you like it or not the people of the region of Northern Ireland are British. Fuck off Ireland
Seems like a big factor is that landslides happen when one side fails to appeal to the moderates/centre and the other doesn't.
But then you get trump
@@jeannebouwman1970 I wouldn't say Trump was a landslide. He lost the popular vote after all. Not much like the historical landslides in the video.
@Osman Oglu Hillary isn't left wing. She's at best straight centre, even for a significant amount of Americans.
Ryan Ferry ruclips.net/video/vwaiyjh1dGk/видео.html
That's not always true though... BJ didn't appeal to moderates at all.
In the Philippines, the Liberal Party have a great disaster in the last May 2019 elections. They got 0 seats in the Senate. And 14 in the house. Plus, the President coalition got a lot of seat, a solid majority.
Good
It was fascinating to see a clip from Tony Schwartz “Daisy” tv commercial in today’s essay. “Daisy” also known as “He loves me,” would make a solid starting point for a great essay on media and politics •
Thanks again for another great essay today JJ.
Happy New Year
If I’m honest, you missed out on Winston Churchill’s defeat. But good video nonetheless.
Aeromatic and Ramsay McDonald’s defeat in 1935. For those wondering, this was labour’s worst defeat before Corbyn.
Edit: I know he was talking about post-war defeats but I think him mentioning McDonald’s defeat as an aside would’ve been nice.
@@martinfawkes595 McDonald broke with the Labour Party in 1931. His National Labour group was a small ally of the Conservative Party in the National government years. McDonald resigned as Prime Minister before the 1935 general election and the National government won a very large victory in 1935.
The worst Labour result, since the First World War, was that of Arthur Henderson's led party in 1931. Henderson lost his own seat and only 52 Labour MPs were elected (of whom 6 were unendorsed by the Labour Party).
You could go back to the Duke of Wellington's landslide defeat. They were quoting that to compare Major's defeat to in 1997 if I remember.
Hey J.J! I loved your video on the worst defeats. I'd love to see some of the worst wins in each country's history!
Aminarica well they’re basically the same. You can’t have one without the other.
This is gonna help me show off with my uncles at my family Christmas later today, thanks JJ.
A few American landslides :
1800 - Thomas Jefferson had 69% of the popular vote
1804 - Thomas J. had 73% of the popular vote
1808 - James Madison had 65% of the popular vote
1816 - James Monroe had 68% of the popular vote
1820 - James Madison had 81% of the popular vote
1832, 1836, 1904, 1924 and 1933 would be here but they only had big victory margins due to vote splitting
1864 - Abraham Lincoln had 55%, but I only put him here for his clean 10% victory margin
1920 - Warren G. Harding had 60% of the popular vote
1936 - FDR had 61% of the popular vote
1956 - Dwight D. Eisenhower had 57% of the popular vote
1964 - Lyndon B. Johnson had 61% of the popular vote
1972 - Richard Nixon had 61% of the popular vote
If you read this whole comment, you are a legend.
The UK portion of this video may have to be updated
Goldberg: *"The US government should have less power"*
Also Goldberg: *"The US government should be more involved in the Vietnam war"*
🤔🤔🤔
Classic Republican Party, less power over Americans, more power over non-americans.
Marwig20 that wasn't uncommon at the time... wouldn't really hold it against him
@@ABC-ej1sd
Bro you just posted cringe.
@@xunqianbaidu6917
Goldwater never changed his opinions much.
Goldwater for most his life was a libertarian, not a staunch conservative, and his stance on gay rights was as such motivated by desire for a lack of government interference in people's lives.
Goldwater*
It's interesting hearing about Jack Layton, as I was too young to remember him much. What I remember is seeing people say 'a leader you could get a beer with', and then hearing of his death. It's interesting because I (being a kid whose parents don't vote 🙃) remember having to learn in highschool that the NDP don't win federally. His name seemed as big or bigger than the others, so I figured the NDP were one of the big 2.
A good example is what happened in Ireland in the 2011 general election, when the incumbent party, Fianna Fáil, went from 78 seats (41.6% of the vote) to just 20 seats (17.4%) and 3rd place.
*Background coming soon in the replies ... it's quite a story*
Fianna Fáil had won the most seats at every general election since 1932 and had been in power for 61 of those 79 years. In 2011, they had been in power since 1997 and were coming to the close of their 3rd consecutive term.
In 2008, their leader, Bertie Ahern, retired after 11 years as Taoiseach (prime minister), mostly due to the fact he was one of the most corrupt politicians in Irish history, and was replaced by his hand-picked successor, Brian Cowen. Cowen had served as finance minister, but he turned out to be seen as Ireland's worst Taoiseach, overseeing the financial crisis and loss of economic sovereignty Ireland suffered as a result of the Great Recession.
By the winter of 2010/11, Cowen had lost all support from his own party, his coalition partners walked out from the government, and the opposition lodged not one but two motions of no confidence. On top of this, so many cabinet ministers resigned that there were only 7 left (the minimum allowed by the Constitution)!
As a result, Cowen called a general election for February 2011 and announced his resignation as Fianna Fáil leader (although he would remain as Taoiseach until after the general election). The parliamentary party quickly elected Micheál Martin (pronounced Mee-hall) as leader. In the election, Fianna Fáil fell to 3rd place. Their traditional rivals, Fine Gael, rose to 1st place for the first time with the traditionally 3rd-placed Labour Party finishing an impressive 2nd place. Fine Gael and Labour formed a grand coalition (with Fine Gael leader, Enda Kenny becoming Taoiseach) and Micheál Martin became Leader of the Opposition. He led Fianna Fáil into the next election in 2016 where the party rose to 2nd place, finishing only 6 seats behind Fine Gael. Labour went from 37 seats to just 6 (which, I believe, is *their* worst defeat).
Fine Gael's worst defeat was probably the 2002 general election, but that's a story for another time.
I just noticed the PDX purse!!💛brilliant little images of OR, thank you for putting on the desk in front! Very rad
3:58 how could you leave out Michigan’s upper peninsula you monster!
It looks so off. That is what makes Michigan have the 2nd largest coastline in the US and the largest state east of the Mississippi.
So... in the story of how America got so polarized over the Vietnam War, McGovern was the Government's MacGuffin?
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There’s this one guy who has been running for commissioner of my village (similar to mayor). He has been running for it every election since I’ve been alive. He has not once gotten higher than 1% of the vote
2:16 "Michigan Governor George Romney"
I don't know what it is, but his face looks familiar...
Seriously, you don't know? He's Mitt Romney's father.
@@markmh835 I happened to be jesting...
@@markmh835 you’re dumb
this is going to be very outdated very soon
Major's circumstances make me think that a video about great "Comeback elections" would be pretty good. As in: a video about the greatest disparities between an elected candidate that had previously lost.
Speaking of major losses, please do a video on Gough Whitlam, or at least look him up! First non-conservative Prime Minister of Australia in 23 years, in power for only 3 (but won 2 elections, it's weird), then became the first and only Australian PM to be SACKED by the Governor-General, then lost half his parties seats in an election. Super Dramatic and Shakespearian.
What was Michael Ignatieff thinking? The very idea that a celebrity with no real world political experience could become a world leader is utterly ridiculous.
Oh. . . . Hang on . . . .
The worst showing for an incumbent president in America was George Bush Sr's in 1992. Like John Major and the Conservative Party, he represented a tired branch of the Republican Party (which had at that point been in control for 11 years) and was endangered by a young, charismatic centre-left candidate-- in this case, Bill Clinton, who, like Blair, ended up having his presidency ridden with scandals. It also didn't help that one Ross Perot from Texas ran a centrist, populist, and isolationist campaign and did surprisingly well for a third candidate. President Bush ended up getting only 37.5% of the popular vote and 168 electoral votes out of 538.
The worst showing for an incumbent was William Taft in 1912
Can we talk about how almost every US presidential election from 1824 to 1916 was pretty close. Almost none of them had a win margin of more than 10%. Crazy that for 92 years most elections were pretty close.
As a colleague recounted to me about the 1964 Election, "They told me that if I voted for Goldwater, that within a year we would be in a war. I did, and indeed, within a year, we were at war."
Uh-huh. Johnson was a slick one, no doubt about it.
@@hotwax9376 wouldn't be surprised if he was involved in JFK's assassination
Trying to have a nice Christmas/new year’s holiday and there’s always someone who wants to talk politics 😝
Watching this for the last time when its still 100% accurate.
Another huge landslide loss that comes to mind was the 1987 New Brunswick provincial election. When Richard Hatfield lost ALL seats in the election. In fact, Frank McKenna's liberals swept all 58 seats. Not sure how often that happens!
Hatfield had become super unpopular because of the Bricklin fiasco a decade earlier, then was caught with marijuana at an airport (during a royal visit, no less!), and spent a lot of money flying back and forth to parties in NYC with the government plane (earning the nickname "Disco Dick").
Here in Uruguay, one of the biggest flops of our political history was the defeat of the Colorado Party in the 2004 general election.
In 1999 Jorge Batlle from that party was elected President after defeating Tabaré Vázquez (Broad Front) in the second round with the 54% of the votes, despite losing in the first round, only delaying the inevitable rise to power of the Broad Front, which had been gaining a lot of popularity since the 1994 elections and in 1999 actually won the majority in both chambers. The Colorado Party needed to form a coalition for the second round with their all-time rivals, the National Party, to win the presidency.
After facing the worst economic crisis in our history in 2002, and despite applying economic measures that later would lead to the bonanza Uruguay had in the late '00s and early '10s, the Colorado Party which had ruled the country in all but 9 democratic periods, dropped from 33% obtained in the first round of the 1999 election to only 10% in the 2004 election, which was the only since two-round system was introduced that didn't need a second round to define the winner. The Broad Front won this election with 51% of the votes.
Until now, the Colorado Party hasn't recovered from this, obtaining between 12 and 18% of the votes in the following three general elections (2009, 2014 and 2019). It's also noteworthy that in the last general election, the irruption of the populist right-wing party Cabildo Abierto "stole" many votes from both traditional parties, which are more center-right-wing catch-all parties, and even some from the Broad Front, which was one of the reasons the Colorado Party couldn't profit from the popularity loss the Broad Front suffered, which lead to their narrow defeat in this year elections. Actually, the Colorado Party and Cabildo Abierto were almost tied, something very unusual in our politics (this new party was created this very year, and the Colorado Party, like the National Party are almost as old as the country itself.)
"Extreme Center" hahahaha. Reminds me of that Futurama episode. "What makes a man neutral. What fills his heart with such cold neutrality?"
I wish my hair was as lush and bouncy as J.J.’s :(
As a Canadian, the election where Kim Campbell lost reminds me of a joke my father used to tell me. “What’s the difference between Kim Campbell, and the OC Transport? The OC has more seats”
They would need an ever more gimmicky candidate. 😂😂😂 I’m literally dying
You didn't mention John Turner who was the Liberal standard bearer in 1984. A former Cabinet Minister in Pierre Trudeau's government, actually elevated to Finance Minister after Mitchell Sharpe resigned. In 1977 after a spat over the Budget he resigned. After Trudeau resigned he come back to the Party to be named leader on June 30,1984. Looked on as a young charismatic leader and a natural Prime Minister he proceeded to lose the election the following over the next 80 days.
Nice Video J.J!
Here are some thoughts:
-Ill have to pick McGovern as the worse defeat because, imma be honest here, almost everyone expected the result of 84’. Mondale only won Minnesoda by i think 0.1% of the vote and many News outlets were talking of the possibility of a 50 state sweep for Reagan.
-Michael Foot was actually the worst Labour Defeat when you count the popular vote percentage. Foot did get 209 seats but only 27% of the Popular vote. Corbyn got 203 seats but still had 32.1% of the popular vote. Odd, yes.
Conservative Defeats...... Yup it was Major Alright. His defeat was a Major one.
-Canada..... yeah Campbell Screwed over the PC Party......
P.S: try to make a video on Philippine Politics... politics here is a bit.... weird.
"Well, so many crushing election defeats. How embarrassing would it be to suffer a defeat like this twice?"
Rahul Gandhi: Hold my beer.
Lmao
He is going to 3peat
When I hear "stakes" in an old timey voice I can't help but imagine they're talking about a big juicy sirloin.
I definitely agree that McGovern’s defeat was worse than Mondale’s, because although he got one more electoral vote than Mondale, he also reasonably had a shot. Given how massively popular Reagan was and the general “Reagan Revolution”, I don’t think anybody was gonna even come close to him in ‘84.
John Major sounds like Bush Sr, facing a primary challenge from the right and being defeated in a landslide by young 40-something year old charismatic centrist
I am surprised he didn't mention the 1992 British Election without referring to the Sun newspaper's famous headline "It's the Sun Wot Won It". The day b4 they had a photo of Labour Leader Neil Kinnock with the headline " If this man is elected PM today will the last person to leave Britain please turn out the lights" Ouch!!!
I like your drawings of the people. Nice cartoon style
McGovern/Eagleton is such a perfect name combo for a presidential ticket in America wow
Beer, pizza jj on the tv bliss
For US elections, check out Franklin Roosevelt versus Alf Landon in 1936. FDR took 523 electoral votes versus 8 for Landon (winning only Maine and Vermont) - FDR's 98.5 percent of the electoral vote is the largest electoral vote win (based on percent of electoral vote available) outside of George Washington's two unanimous elections.
Poor Mondale he even failed to become the biggest failure
What does a politician and a Hollywood producer have in common? They rise to higher paying positions the more they lose.
Bros name is literally McGovern and he couldn’t even manage to do that.
Yeah, why did he become a Senator? He should’ve been a Governor
A smart man puts his ad in the middle of the video, where I am least likely to skip it. Well played.
Thanks for the video Its my birthday and you just made aton better
Happy Birthday
Fun fact if the boundaries now in force in the UK were used for the 2019 election then the majority would have been over 85.
Ramsey McDonald’s betrayal of his party (though it is more complicated than that historically) and subsequent defeat of Labour is probably another electoral defeat worth looking at if you do a follow up
Imagine a George McGovern be Barry Goldwater election
In Ecuador, there's this guy named "Alvaro Noboa" who's been trying to be president of Ecuador since the 80's, every single time he tries he fails
Sounds like William Jennings Bryan is still alive in Ecuador.
@@AVeryRandomPerson December update: Alvaro just tried again to ran for president but it was denied again due to unpaid taxes and workers exploitations accusations that have come forward.
There’s something almost wholesome about trying that hard honestly.
@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle in Ecuador. People make fun of him because of the way he talks, he sounds like a toddler sometimes
@@willypro4949 aw... is it like how people roast Jeb Bush here in the US? Lol he’s strangely wholesome and I don’t agree with the Bushes politically but I like Jeb as a person. Him and all his weird wholesomeness.
George McGovern, perhaps one of the most honest of American political leaders, was nominated for TIME's 'Man of the Year' in 1974 for never having said, "I told you so..."
Looks like Sunak may soon surpass Corbyn as a history making loser.
Goldwater wasn't exactly an advocate for traditional values. He was pro-choice on abortion, supported gay marriage and legalizing marijuana, and was deeply critical of the influence religious conservatives had in the GOP during his later years. In short, he was more of a libertarian than a traditional conservative. And by electoral votes, Mondale's loss in 1984 was worse for Democrats than McGovern's. He got only 13 electoral votes from Minnesota and DC and came within a few thousand votes of being shut out in all 50 states.
Also, I wouldn't exactly call Labour's defeat in 2019 "crushing." They did surprisingly well in the southeast part of England, holding a normally safe Conservative seat in Canterbury they picked up in 2017 and gaining at least one seat from Conservatives in Greater London.
"We must either love eachother, or we must die"
That's the most intense campaign ad I ever heard.
Even serj tankian used it in a music
Epic
Fun fact: It was revealed in 2002 that John Major and Edwina Currie (another politician) had had a relationship between 1983 and 1988, despite being married to separate people. This sparked the humorous phrase “Major loves a curry on Friday”, which is still sometimes used in connotation to him.
Louis LL. Nicholls I do not get the joke!
2:17 Holy shit he looks just like Mitt
Hey, don’t rag on Mondale. Dude had a laundry ship named after him!
I’ve never been so early to see a vid! Sending love from hk
On a Provincial level in Canada, there have been a few lopsided defeats for an incumbent party...
2018: Kathleen Wynne, LIB, Ontario: 55 > 7
2015: Jim Prentice, PC, Alberta: 70 > 10
2001: Ujjal Dosanjh, NDP, British Columbia: 39 > 2
1990: David Peterson, LIB, Ontario: 95 > 36
1987: Richard Hatfield, PC, New Brunswick: 39 > 0
1985: Pierre-Marc Johnson, PQ, Quebec: 80 > 23
1976: Robert Bourassa, LIB, Quebec: 102 > 26
You're about to have to make another one. Looks like Rishi Sunak is about to lose even harder than Corbyn
Great video! I love your channel JJ.
My best wishes from Argentina!