@@Zade_95 I must admit I facepalmed that one. May I suggest checking out OpenRA which covers most if not all of the missing features you listed :-) *edit* which you mention later on in the video......
The one thing I forgot to comment (; Also trivia, both the original and red alert are the only games you can sell infantry. APC loaded up, onto a repair pad/bay, sell icon, over it SOLD! Welcome to brexit! :p I had to get a brexit joke in today, it helps me keep the balance XD
I can commend you for tolerating Tiberian Dawn when you've played Tiberian Sun. It's one of those games that's hard to go back to after playing the successors.
I agree with what you both YT Mamooth Tanks have just Said But, if you may excuse my 3y late un-called reply I would suggest you try for Free OpenRA. It's Tiberian Dawn, Dune and Red Alert exactly as the original game but with the engine rebuild to 2023 expectations, and I mean all the modern RTS needs are meet up to date and glorified alongside modern multiplayer and other stuff too
4 Things Tiberian Dawn fans will understand... 1) How useless Nod Sam site were, 2) How Zade missed a cash pick up at 5:57 3) Those iconic screams 4) and who the Mechanical Man is? :D
Hey, come on now. The 2D pixel artstyle still holds up even to this day. Perhaps I'm just used to it, seeing as I grew up with the game, but I find the graphics perfectly clear and understandable. Tooltips and descriptions were also supplied through the physical manuals, including tech-trees about what combination of buildings unlock which unit. Hell, they even included a walkthrough tutorial for the first two or free missions. Also, if you are looking for the actual single player experience, I'd strongly recommend downloading it from Nyerguds website. But yea, solid summary! It's pretty much the base from which all the later C&C titles evolved from. Its about as pure and simple of an RTS you can get.
Oh, I can definitely understand that. You've also sort of gone at it backwards, making it a pretty unique experience I imagine. Sorry if I came off as defensive or complaining. I will admit that I'm wearing some pretty rose-tinted glasses about this ;)
Addition: Oh, and if you haven't checked them out, I strongly suggest giving "Dawn of the Tiberium Age" a look as well. Its pretty much a direct port of the game into the Tiberium Sun engine - offering both a "classic" mode and an "enhanced" mode which introduces some more futuristic and fantastical units. The kicker though? You can also play as the Allies and Soviet from Red Alert.
It kinda sucks many modern players won't be able to experience how many did in the mid 90s, particularly the flash installation sequence on DOS, which smoothly transitioned to the opening cutscene and gameplay. The presentation was really quite mindblowing.
Here's a general hint. When playing old games... _read the manual._ These games aren't _missing_ the explanations on what stuff does and how to use it, it's simply _not inside the game itself,_ because that's the way things worked back then. You _need_ to consider that manual to be a part of the game; it contains everything you need to properly grasp the game's full arsenal of features and abilities.
@@Nyerguds hilarious shit, I bought myself a nice sealed Tiberium Sun off ebay, and inside was "please mail 5$ and this postcard for a manual" ggggggee thanks EA
It really was something, but I was spoiled by being exposed to Hell March first... Not quite as mind-blowing then, but still burned "I'm the mechanical man" into my brain permanently so thoroughly even Yuri would be impressed by it's permanence.
Frank Klepacki has remastered 16-bit full stereo versions of the C&C 1 and Red Alert tracks on his website that you can listen to. Here, actually: www.frankklepacki.com/listen/soundtracks
I play the Tiberian Dawn Redux mod for C&C Generals Zero Hour, which faithfully recreates the look and feel of the original C&C in almost every single way. For those who didn’t grow up in the ‘90s and are looking for a more modernised version of Tiberian Dawn, this mod is probably the closest thing we have to that, at least for now. I know the C&C Remastered games are in the works by EA, but I’ve learnt to wait until it actually gets released and seen it for myself before giving it any credit, if it deserves any. Being old enough to have grown up with Dune 2, I still love its music and sound effects even though they are entirely generated through MIDI synthesisers which are even more primitive. One notable aspect of the music is that the game actually played different music tracks depending on the situation, for example when enemy forces are sighted or they clash with your units, the music switches to more upbeat, adrenaline-inducing tracks. Also, the intro for the game was quite epic and very well-executed, again despite the primitive technology available at the time.
@@Zade_95 mine is a 500 mhz and 64 mb ram with a tnt2 gpu onboard. I managed to install and run gta vice city on it but only the ice cream van allowed driving without crashing into things. I have to set this old thing up as a retro PC at some point.
Pfft. I played it on my 486SX33 with 4MB of RAM, running MS-DOS 6.1. Used to have to start it with a custom-made floppy boot disk to make sure you had enough free base memory for the game to start. Aah, those were the days! Also, I'm fucking old.
@@eskimo4130 interesting how this evolved into a competition who had the shitiest hardware. Thb it was fun back in the days to find a way around the limitations of hardware to squeeze just a little bit more out of a system to play a game that was not intended to run on that type of hardware. Today's gametes don't know how it was back then. *shakes walking stick furiously at the sky*
A thing to remember is that the game was released in the golden age of game boxes and manuals. Many of the points you listed were easily explained in the manuals (that often offered additional background information). Unfortunately I don't have my C&C game box or manual anymore but I'm sure it's somewhere on the net.
If you really want to play the original command and conquer, there's a mod for Generals called Command and Conquer: Tiberian Dawn Redux. They literally remade the entirety of the first game with the Generals engine, and it looks SO much better thanks to it. We have to use the mod until the official remasters are done, but that's not a bad thing thanks to the hard work the modders put into it.
@@Zade_95 They just finished it this year, so you can go ahead and give it a look. They couldn't change the video resolution, but that's kind of normal. They and their audio play just fine.
Although you are correct about no healing, that is not true about no repairing. You CAN repair both buildings and vehicles. Medics only first showed up on Allied side on the Red Alert 1 which came not too long after C&C.
You CAN repair vehicles, there's a repair facility. In fact, you need that structure to make Mammoth Tanks. And OpenRA is a totally different game, but with the same graphics. Even the weapons do not have the same warheads (so, for example, some rockets that were anti-infantry are made into anti-armour etc). CnCNet is what you want if you want to actually be playing the game.
In hindsight that does seem like quite the obvious tell - my bad! Thanks for the heads up. Yeah depends what you want out of it I guess, CncNet was definitely more of a stock feeling, OpenRA was clearly remade
Great stuff! I wanted to see if the original C&C would run on Win10 earlier this year, and it did. I used the version from Origin's 17-game collection-which btw is ridiculously great value-and all I had to do was 'Run as Administrator' to get it going. Ran perfectly, completed the first mission, will return to it soon. While I'd played PC games for a decade previously, C&C was my first 'OMG saliva!' experience which changed my main leisure activities from books & movies to video games. Then Red Alert a year later was even better-I replayed those two so much, along with Total Annihilation. Others have mentioned the Repair Bay, but I noticed you didn't repair your barracks-there's a 'Repair' button in the UI for buildings. And yeah, one of the best soundtracks in gaming, with the first Red Alert being another. Tough games to beat!
Thank you! It is great value! Yeah my worked so to speak, but alt tabbing was completely broken, and sometimes it just wouldn't launch :P Yep I did see the repair bay comments - that was my bad!
You mention no way to repair vehicles, yet in multiple shots you have the repair facility that you drive on and it repairs them. Maybe that's not what you meant?
Since I have not scrolled through all of the messages I do not know if someone else has already mentioned it, but another alternative to playing something close to the original would be the C&C Generals Zero Hour mod C&C Tiberian Dawn Redux. It even includes both of the campaigns with original videos and soundtrack but gives slightly more modern graphics and even upgrades and multiplayer with AI.
I bought the ultimate collection a year ago or so. I tried to start with the original tiberian dawn and red alert but quickly jumped to tiberian sun and red alert 2. I loved them and played the hell out of them back in the 2000's but now I feel they are hard. So basically I left them because of the difficulty. But it's not that the A.I. is harder than in other games (I beat Brood War a couple years ago so I'm not that rusty when it comes to classic formula RTSs), it's the interface. Training one unit at a time, the units being so dumb that you have to babysit them, the slowness of the scrolling through the map, I don't know, I had a hard time, but mostly and infuriating time. I jumped out of them out of fear of tainting the good memories I had of them back in the day. I hope the remasters do integrate some advancements the classic rts formula has had these couple of decades and is not just an hd version of the game, at least to red alert 2 standards, they are still quite playable.
Speaking of that collection, I had trouble getting Ra2 and TS started. All the other games are fine, but RA2 just gives me a black screen and Tiberian Sun is locked to the title screen. I use Win 10 and don't know how to get it to run. I'll probably go to the free websites instead, now that i know, lol.
MrJJandJim yeah google red alert 2 won’t start or tiberian sun won’t start They will lead you to the sites that have patches for them, I played both patched as even if they worked, i fixed resolution and renders to play better with windows 10 and stuff.
OpenRA isn't a replacement for the original games. The balance is totally different and is designed for multiplayer. The bots are dumb and cheat. Nice video despite that!
It's also pretty heavily redesigned to some degree, such as StarCraft/C&C3-style multiple building production, Aircraft mechanics that are also more like C&C3, Harvesters not depositing resources if there is not storage available, and some heavily redesigned units such as the SSM Launcher being replaced with the Mobile SAM. It's still really good though and I would not like to discourage anyone from trying out OpenRA. It also has a Red Alert and Dune 2000 mod, and a Tiberian Sun mod but that one's still a heavily work in progress.
@@Snufflegrunt Honestly it goes above and beyond a "fan game" IMO. It's a really competent and extremely functional and flexible engine that is entirely open source. I personally don't like some of the changes to the mods themselves but the engine itself is perfectly fine and can be made to be almost totally identical to the original games, with all the QOL changes removed, minus some aesthetic and atmospheric things such as the score screen not being there and no campaign screens. Campaigns and their FMVs themselves are in though.
C&C series by Westwood, Total Annihilation, Warcraft, and Warzone 2100 are THE Golden Oldies of Real Time Strategy games. Best new is that all of them are still available, and most are FREE. And we get these excellent unbias reviews by gamers like Zane. Total Annihilation (GOG Galaxy version) runs great, and Warzone 2100 has been updated (Warzone2100.net) also works great. Could you do a "Should you play" review on TA and Warzone2100 (if you haven't?). Thanks for the great work. Happy Gaming!!!
I try to play the c&c series at least once a year well apart from 4 and this game had the best bug were you could build a sandbag wall to the enemy base and seal them in because they did not know how to destroy it. My fave campaign is Tib wars and fave units is Tib sun but i love this game and RA 1 almost has much.
This game will always be special to me. After playing the demo 2000 times over (which was two GDI levels), this was the first game I ever bought with my own money. Of course I played thought the Nod campaign first. I got the Commemorative Edition that had the Covert Operations in the box (still got it too with the poster as well). Back when I got it, you had to run it in DOS, so you could only play it in 640x480 resolution. Multiplayer at the time was very VERY hard to organise. Hardly anyone had the game in my small Auckland town, parents were out of touch with gaming and were of no help, and Ethernet LAN's were expensive to get as you needed a LAN card and a hub/switch (Which were not cheap at the time). As a kid a LAN was out of the question. So you had to use a dial up modem (which not many people had) or I think you could also use a serial cable but we didn't have one. When we finally got a modem game sorted it was a huge amount of fun when it didn't disconnect after your mum picks up the phone.
@@Zade_95 Renegade isn't Half Life, but it's not bad. Of course, if you're a C&C fan, it's great-you get to go inside the tiberium refineries etc and have a cheesy good time :)
back in the day games would come with manuals which would tell you almost everything you need to know. unit and building description included. still have both of my original disks as well. got them from a bargin bin back in 2000 i was 7 years old at the time. those were the days
My first outing with the Tiberium Saga is the 3rd game in the franchise. Tiberium Wars. I've been trying to get into the first game but the GDI is somewhat underwhelming compared to nod unlike their future iterations where their superweapons are on equal footing. Even in Renegade the ion cannon had some appropriate kick to it instead of like an instantaneous zap from the sky. My first outing with the franchise as a whole was a PS port called Red Alert Retaliation
if EA fucks up the remaster, we still can mod CnC3 like what they did to "remaster" Tiberian Sun with Tiberium Essence mod and we also have OpenRA. Even though I don't particularly like TibDawn that much, I've been listening to Act on Instinct from the original and Kane's Wrath. RA Retaliation has a remix of No Mercy. I don't remember if this track is from the Tiberium universe but there's also a remix of Mechanical Man.
Almost the same here! Got it on Machintosh back in the day. Around '97 I think. Even so, it quickly became my go-to game despite not knowing a single word of english at the time. Totally trial-and-error brute-forced the entire game!
There is a browser based port of the full game, including campaigns and multiplayer: www.adityaravishankar.com/projects/games/command-and-conquer/ You can play multiplayer C&C against pretty much anyone, on anything, without any downloads.
I'm pretty sure that windows Red Alert plays at a higher resolution than the windows95 version of C&C Tib Dawn, I think that's why you found the graphics much more tolerable. I like and appreciate a honest, non-nostalgia led review of this game and agree with your general points, I believe that everyone should check out the remaster!
One of my very top best epic games I have ever played and there have been quite many. Command & Conquer rocks hardest also and the story.. just installing it was more fun than most games then. Very special.
you can heal vehicles and infantry, but for some reason the depot and the medic don't unlock until really, really far into the campaign, which always seemed like a strange design choice to me.
@kt it's not impossible I'm mixing the medic up with Red Alert, as they are very similar. The 2 games share a load of art assets, which makes a mess of distinguishing the 2 of them in my memory.
Picked up the ultimate collection (for about the 3rd time over the years) as I'd never really given this a proper go. I started C&C at tiberium sun. But apart from the scrolling issue it's still a nice game. Without any other good RTS games out at the moment these old gems are still some how keeping the genre alive
"Without any other good RTS games out at the moment these old gems are still some how keeping the genre alive" Have you tried Grey Goo? It's by a bunch of the old Westwood guys, it's pretty good-especially if you like C&C and similar.
@@silversolver7809 just watched a few game play vids of it. Looks like a well put together game. More in line of a starcraft game or Warhammer 40k dawn of war: dark crusades. Few too many turn offs for me though. :/
If the graphics and mechanics are putting you off from playing the older C&C you might want to try this mod that had intended to address those issues www.moddb.com/mods/command-conquer-tiberian-dawn-redux/
If you enjoy older RTS games im gonna recommend one less known but it's a gem nonetheless. Original War. A mix of RTS with RPG elements, base building, pretty good story and it aged well. Its still supported by its community. Available on steam, runs on modern PC's no problem :)
Still remember when I first got my hands on this as a kid on the PlayStation was something else can't wait for the remaster can't wait to fight for Nod again
Straight up the single greatest video game ever made, sound track amazing, FMVs, are beautiful, however my biggest complaint is no version is actually ‘the best’ DOS, low res, low quality music, but it genuinely is my preferred way to play. PS my entry version, super fast and truely hardcore. No save states, no saves at all other than the password system. N64 is AMAZING, minus the frame rate, lack of FMVs... but, trivia the only version of C&C that actually ran 60fps, the PlayStation version claims 60fps scrolling, but the gameplay is 30, it’s speed tho is cranked to the literal max lol But it had stereo audio! Which the difference is astounding. My recommendation for anyone NEW to C&C original, forget the console versions completely, unless your curious or you wanted to maybe try in an emulator. Fan version straight up, is the version to download of the original game. There’s a MOD, that enables stereo audio, but it easily doubles the install size, so not lightweight, but makes an immense difference. Act on Instinct sounds correct for once, lol Only gripe there, it’s a small one, FMVs, the fan version for whatever reason, disabled the scan lines added within both the first decade and the origin collection. There’s no toggle for if you want them. And it would be nice if the option was there for width, amount etc. I remember firing up win7 32bit on my old laptop, first game, original of course, I was kinda amazed by how ‘good the FMVs looked’ with the scanlines, on that display. On a TV it looks horrid, and inconsistent, I’m so gonna get the remaster, the original game is my favourite game ever made. Red alert, is probably my second or it’s a tied first. It’s really good. I just hope they do the FMVs proper justice, and that by the end of it, it looks like C&Cs equivalent of the StarCraft remastered. Oh, and Pleaaaaase, for the 10 year-old self in me, can we get a skirmish mode? And for it to NOT be an origin exclusive. I’d happily buy it digital and physical, for my collection.
Got the playstation demo disc with C&C on it. I played that one mission to death and couldnt wait to buy the whole game! The menu system and presentation on the ps1 was a bit better than pc.
I owned this as a teenager and LOVED it. Admittedly, today, it has not held up well. I even tried the remaster. It's just so slow paced: For example, the harvester doesn't just need to travel back to the refinery, but then it takes its time to unload it, what almost seems like credit by credit. As much as I am a sucker for the OG of just about anything, the Red Alert spin off titles are simply better in every way, I personally think.
Dude, the graphics and interfaces even back then were mindblowing, the birth of serious playable RTS's (compare to for example Dune 2). The interface in this video is the GOLD edition however, which is more modern than the original 1995 DOS version of the C&C game.
I rember as a youmg teen being obsessed with command and conquer was the gate way to rts games for me good times lead me to play mech commmander games and aoe and my all time fave rts i still play to this day Populous: the begining thats a game that needs a proper remake 1 of the first rts to introduce op hero unit)
@@Zade_95 Well it rarely made sense too, it's expensive in a game where where you're forever strapped for cash, a full haul of Tiberium isn't even enough for a medium tank.
Also, when talking about OpenRA, although it's a very good initiative, you should mention there's currently no way to play the campaigns to their completion. That seems something that gets often overlooked when recommending OpenRA to play the old games. I mean, yeah, sure, the skirmish mode and multiplayer are well and good, but really, if you want skirmish and multiplayer fun you're better off playing one of the newer games. The main attraction of the old C&C and Red Alert games are their campaign, experiencing how the story started. And back in 1995, before the internet era, that was the main purpose for playing a game as well.
Worth a look and review: Tiberian Dawn Redux is a fan made remaster 10 years in the making of the original C&C that improved upon its gameplay along with a graphics upgrade, including the campaigns. www.moddb.com/mods/command-conquer-tiberian-dawn-redux There are several user playlists right here on RUclips featuring the gameplay in action as well.
Awesome! The ability to make or use formations and attack from any direction was awesome. Claw formation from below. Now if only a star trek RTS game with the same 3D environment was a thing.
Having recently completed the remastered collection I think I’d straightaway probably say that it’s definitely a significant relic of the past and probably best for a play through and that’s about it. Alert one
POG Mass Effect is my favorite series - played through it countless times. It's in the back pocket, whenever I cover it, it will be IN DEPTH Thank you for watching btw :)
7:28 this is a bit of a biased interpretation. "Upgrades" are not really a necessary component in an RTS and judging on a game's lack thereof is kind of dumb. Also, as other's have already mentioned, there is the Service Depot, that can repair vehicles. However, you can also _sell_ units on this repair pad. There is also a bug where you can sell infantry that are right next to a wall. Queuing building of units is also not particularly insightful either. From my perspective, it makes macro in C&C much more interesting and uniquely challenging as compared to most other modern RTS games, however I can forgive this criticism as it is a valid criticism to some degree (however I absolutely *do not* agree with infinite queuing and I think that is a gross simplification of macro). And camera zoom would honestly be a fucking godsend for Tiberian Dawn so ye I can agree with that lmao.
is it sad that watching this i didn't get the urge to actually go play it till hearing the music again... omg All the Cnc tracks by Frank Kl are amazing. if CNC does anything right its music\FOV cutscenes.
definetively recomending openRA lot´s of QoL functions that make playing the game less clunky and relevant .. only thing it lacks is a good skirmish AI and no ranked matchmaking .. but pretty good to play against others or with friends ..
Looking at the bookends of the franchise, gotta say with this weekends experiment Tiberian Dawn Remastered is a way better game than Red Alert 3. Open RA TibDawn's terrain artstyle gave me serious Total Annihilation vibes tho.
Agree'd. Mind, I can understand that people find them dated when comparing to what we have today (especially if they didn't grow up with them at the time). But compared to what we had back then, and how some other classical games have aged, C&C pixel graphics are still really damn good for what they had to work with at the time.
I think saying something is 'dated' is different to saying it's 'bad' for sure. I don't doubt their quality for the day, and a lot of people can probably look over the age of it :) It's just hard for someone used to modern graphics to take a dramatic downgrade - though 'downgrade' is of course suibjective
"No way to repair units" he said, while not long ago he was scrolling past a base with a repair pad in it.
Edit: You bloody south sea pom! Hahaha
Also not deploying the MCV in the first GDI mission, arrgh!
Yeah I know :P - ZadeBlind lul
@@Zade_95 I must admit I facepalmed that one. May I suggest checking out OpenRA which covers most if not all of the missing features you listed :-)
*edit* which you mention later on in the video......
This is exactly what triggered me to scroll down to the comment section and yes, amen, well said!
The one thing I forgot to comment (;
Also trivia, both the original and red alert are the only games you can sell infantry. APC loaded up, onto a repair pad/bay, sell icon, over it SOLD!
Welcome to brexit! :p
I had to get a brexit joke in today, it helps me keep the balance XD
I can commend you for tolerating Tiberian Dawn when you've played Tiberian Sun. It's one of those games that's hard to go back to after playing the successors.
Thank you man! While it was easier than I expected, I was definitely missing all the advancements made in the later games :P
I agree with what you both YT Mamooth Tanks have just Said
But, if you may excuse my 3y late un-called reply
I would suggest you try for Free OpenRA.
It's Tiberian Dawn, Dune and Red Alert exactly as the original game but with the engine rebuild to 2023 expectations, and I mean all the modern RTS needs are meet up to date and glorified alongside modern multiplayer and other stuff too
4 Things Tiberian Dawn fans will understand...
1) How useless Nod Sam site were,
2) How Zade missed a cash pick up at 5:57
3) Those iconic screams
4) and who the Mechanical Man is? :D
Nah dude I got the cash pick up later. Yep,... sure did....
Not all churches contained cash boxes, and it wouldn't make sense for there to be one in the first NOD mission where you can't build anything.
@@TheCommanderNZ Affects your score :p
"Are you picking this up? Good. I'll answer your question with one word.. YES."
I played shit out of whole C&C series, but Tiberium is my favourite one and I still waiting for *proper* fourth entry.
I Still Play it thoose days. Despite the Grafik it has Flow and fantastic Flair.
Im uploading tiberian sun gameplay in my channel. You may have look mate 🙂
LUL
Aren't we all.....
@@Zade_95 Twilight is non canon for me
Twilight was pure blasphemy and still hurts my soul to this day.
Seeing commander shepherd again reminded me that his actor died in April this year.
I didn't know that - sad to hear :(
Yep, rest in peace buddy
@@trabuco9 A Cmon man!
@@trabuco9 KANE LIVES IN DEATH!
Well, a lot of our personal favorite actors will die in our lifetime. By the time that happens, we would be in our 50s or 60s.
You can repair mechanical units with a service depot. You need one to construct an MCV. If you're GDI, you need one for mammoth tanks as well.
Yep, I'm blind apparently :P
It's actually called a repair bay.. service depot is in Red Alert. i realize this is a nearly pointless correction :-p
And now.. the remaster is out. Hope everyone is enjoying it!
I sure am!
Hey, come on now. The 2D pixel artstyle still holds up even to this day. Perhaps I'm just used to it, seeing as I grew up with the game, but I find the graphics perfectly clear and understandable.
Tooltips and descriptions were also supplied through the physical manuals, including tech-trees about what combination of buildings unlock which unit. Hell, they even included a walkthrough tutorial for the first two or free missions.
Also, if you are looking for the actual single player experience, I'd strongly recommend downloading it from Nyerguds website.
But yea, solid summary! It's pretty much the base from which all the later C&C titles evolved from. Its about as pure and simple of an RTS you can get.
Yeah I feel ya - it was the first time I'd played so quite a different experience.
Thanks for the tip - and thanks for watching! :)
Oh, I can definitely understand that. You've also sort of gone at it backwards, making it a pretty unique experience I imagine.
Sorry if I came off as defensive or complaining. I will admit that I'm wearing some pretty rose-tinted glasses about this ;)
Addition:
Oh, and if you haven't checked them out, I strongly suggest giving "Dawn of the Tiberium Age" a look as well. Its pretty much a direct port of the game into the Tiberium Sun engine - offering both a "classic" mode and an "enhanced" mode which introduces some more futuristic and fantastical units. The kicker though? You can also play as the Allies and Soviet from Red Alert.
It kinda sucks many modern players won't be able to experience how many did in the mid 90s, particularly the flash installation sequence on DOS, which smoothly transitioned to the opening cutscene and gameplay. The presentation was really quite mindblowing.
Yeah it can be tough. Hopefully the remaster puts some more eyes on them!
We are going to have to act, if we want to play a different EA's game.
Here's a general hint. When playing old games... _read the manual._ These games aren't _missing_ the explanations on what stuff does and how to use it, it's simply _not inside the game itself,_ because that's the way things worked back then. You _need_ to consider that manual to be a part of the game; it contains everything you need to properly grasp the game's full arsenal of features and abilities.
I still got my copy of Tiberian Sun's manual. I miss those coming with games.
Other than hoping for a PDF of the manual, that's... unlikely, is the issue.
@@catsosan C&C95 comes with a pdf manual. And if you need em for any other games... I got a collection:
nyerguds.arsaneus-design.com/manuals/
@@Nyerguds hilarious shit, I bought myself a nice sealed Tiberium Sun off ebay, and inside was "please mail 5$ and this postcard for a manual" ggggggee thanks EA
imagine listening to this soundtrack back in the 90s. It blew my mind so hard I have been speeding ever since.
That's when you know quality
They're absolutely stunning soundtracks, they're on spotify too!
I get a lot of speeding tickets too. Never played command and conquer though.
It really was something, but I was spoiled by being exposed to Hell March first... Not quite as mind-blowing then, but still burned "I'm the mechanical man" into my brain permanently so thoroughly even Yuri would be impressed by it's permanence.
"I've got a present for ya!"
*BOOM*
"Unit lost"
The trauma of losing my walkers still haunts me to this day
"That was left handed!"
Hahaha the worst.
"Real tough guy. Ha ha ha ha. That was left-handed."
With a proper resolution, still good to play
Damn, not first. This game is really good, even today. Quite deserving of a proper remaster.
I mean, they ARE remastering it, renains to be seen how it turns out though.
I agree - hopeful for how it turns out!
Yes ... RUclips commenters respond more quickly than some people think.
Ooooooh my god the MUSIC!!!!! Damn it, I love it! Thanks for taking me back to being a kid!
"I'm the Mechanical Man!"
My pleasure!
Frank Klepacki has remastered 16-bit full stereo versions of the C&C 1 and Red Alert tracks on his website that you can listen to.
Here, actually: www.frankklepacki.com/listen/soundtracks
@@michaelmiller3012 Looking for That after work! Thanks for the info
I play the Tiberian Dawn Redux mod for C&C Generals Zero Hour, which faithfully recreates the look and feel of the original C&C in almost every single way. For those who didn’t grow up in the ‘90s and are looking for a more modernised version of Tiberian Dawn, this mod is probably the closest thing we have to that, at least for now. I know the C&C Remastered games are in the works by EA, but I’ve learnt to wait until it actually gets released and seen it for myself before giving it any credit, if it deserves any.
Being old enough to have grown up with Dune 2, I still love its music and sound effects even though they are entirely generated through MIDI synthesisers which are even more primitive. One notable aspect of the music is that the game actually played different music tracks depending on the situation, for example when enemy forces are sighted or they clash with your units, the music switches to more upbeat, adrenaline-inducing tracks. Also, the intro for the game was quite epic and very well-executed, again despite the primitive technology available at the time.
I played it back in the days on my Pentium 3 that I still have. Good times.
Damn I am old.
Dude I had a Pentium 3 back in the day, it was my first CPU! 384mb of ram, 80gb hdd, hype all around
@@Zade_95 mine is a 500 mhz and 64 mb ram with a tnt2 gpu onboard. I managed to install and run gta vice city on it but only the ice cream van allowed driving without crashing into things. I have to set this old thing up as a retro PC at some point.
Pfft. I played it on my 486SX33 with 4MB of RAM, running MS-DOS 6.1. Used to have to start it with a custom-made floppy boot disk to make sure you had enough free base memory for the game to start.
Aah, those were the days! Also, I'm fucking old.
PC anti master race xD
I had, *ahem*, my parents had a Pentium MMX 166mhz with 16mb RAM and 2.1GB HDD.
@@eskimo4130 interesting how this evolved into a competition who had the shitiest hardware. Thb it was fun back in the days to find a way around the limitations of hardware to squeeze just a little bit more out of a system to play a game that was not intended to run on that type of hardware. Today's gametes don't know how it was back then. *shakes walking stick furiously at the sky*
A thing to remember is that the game was released in the golden age of game boxes and manuals. Many of the points you listed were easily explained in the manuals (that often offered additional background information). Unfortunately I don't have my C&C game box or manual anymore but I'm sure it's somewhere on the net.
Yeah I totally get that - I doubt many people have one though :P I'll mention it next time!
A game from my childhood ^^
I LOVE Command & Conquer and it's spin-off series Red Alert.
If you really want to play the original command and conquer, there's a mod for Generals called Command and Conquer: Tiberian Dawn Redux. They literally remade the entirety of the first game with the Generals engine, and it looks SO much better thanks to it. We have to use the mod until the official remasters are done, but that's not a bad thing thanks to the hard work the modders put into it.
Oh wow I'd never seen that - looks quite impressive!
@@Zade_95 They just finished it this year, so you can go ahead and give it a look. They couldn't change the video resolution, but that's kind of normal. They and their audio play just fine.
Thanks Bee, I never knew about this-looks great!
@@silversolver7809 You're welcome.
You can find it here :) www.moddb.com/mods/command-conquer-tiberian-dawn-redux/downloads/
Although you are correct about no healing, that is not true about no repairing. You CAN repair both buildings and vehicles. Medics only first showed up on Allied side on the Red Alert 1 which came not too long after C&C.
Yep I missed it, my bad!
You CAN repair vehicles, there's a repair facility. In fact, you need that structure to make Mammoth Tanks.
And OpenRA is a totally different game, but with the same graphics. Even the weapons do not have the same warheads (so, for example, some rockets that were anti-infantry are made into anti-armour etc).
CnCNet is what you want if you want to actually be playing the game.
In hindsight that does seem like quite the obvious tell - my bad! Thanks for the heads up.
Yeah depends what you want out of it I guess, CncNet was definitely more of a stock feeling, OpenRA was clearly remade
@@Zade_95 Yeah, it's not to say that OpenRA is bad, it's just not the same game, is all. It's remade from the bottom up, but uses the TD graphics.
And so a Legend was born
RTS GAMES
No it was dune 2 .
Great stuff! I wanted to see if the original C&C would run on Win10 earlier this year, and it did. I used the version from Origin's 17-game collection-which btw is ridiculously great value-and all I had to do was 'Run as Administrator' to get it going. Ran perfectly, completed the first mission, will return to it soon.
While I'd played PC games for a decade previously, C&C was my first 'OMG saliva!' experience which changed my main leisure activities from books & movies to video games. Then Red Alert a year later was even better-I replayed those two so much, along with Total Annihilation.
Others have mentioned the Repair Bay, but I noticed you didn't repair your barracks-there's a 'Repair' button in the UI for buildings. And yeah, one of the best soundtracks in gaming, with the first Red Alert being another. Tough games to beat!
Thank you!
It is great value! Yeah my worked so to speak, but alt tabbing was completely broken, and sometimes it just wouldn't launch :P
Yep I did see the repair bay comments - that was my bad!
You mention no way to repair vehicles, yet in multiple shots you have the repair facility that you drive on and it repairs them. Maybe that's not what you meant?
Yep I missed it - my bad! Seems obvious when the building was called 'Repair Bay' :P
Since I have not scrolled through all of the messages I do not know if someone else has already mentioned it, but another alternative to playing something close to the original would be the C&C Generals Zero Hour mod C&C Tiberian Dawn Redux. It even includes both of the campaigns with original videos and soundtrack but gives slightly more modern graphics and even upgrades and multiplayer with AI.
I've heard of that actually! looks pretty great, will need to try it out at some point
You just love pushing my nostalgia button Mr Zade. Love the vids keep up the great work.
You know it! Thank you man, means a lot :)
I bought the ultimate collection a year ago or so.
I tried to start with the original tiberian dawn and red alert but quickly jumped to tiberian sun and red alert 2.
I loved them and played the hell out of them back in the 2000's but now I feel they are hard.
So basically I left them because of the difficulty.
But it's not that the A.I. is harder than in other games (I beat Brood War a couple years ago so I'm not that rusty when it comes to classic formula RTSs), it's the interface.
Training one unit at a time, the units being so dumb that you have to babysit them, the slowness of the scrolling through the map, I don't know, I had a hard time, but mostly and infuriating time.
I jumped out of them out of fear of tainting the good memories I had of them back in the day.
I hope the remasters do integrate some advancements the classic rts formula has had these couple of decades and is not just an hd version of the game, at least to red alert 2 standards, they are still quite playable.
Yeah me too, there are a lot of advancements made in newer RTSs I'd love to see in the remasters!
Speaking of that collection, I had trouble getting Ra2 and TS started. All the other games are fine, but RA2 just gives me a black screen and Tiberian Sun is locked to the title screen. I use Win 10 and don't know how to get it to run. I'll probably go to the free websites instead, now that i know, lol.
MrJJandJim yeah google red alert 2 won’t start or tiberian sun won’t start
They will lead you to the sites that have patches for them, I played both patched as even if they worked, i fixed resolution and renders to play better with windows 10 and stuff.
@@Realunmaker Will do! Thank you!
You might wanna try this mod for C&C Generals Zero Hour www.moddb.com/mods/command-conquer-tiberian-dawn-redux/
Hey! You can repair mechanical units on the repair bay!
R.I.P Westwood Studios
1985 - 2003
\o7
A bunch of them are at Petroglyph Games, the guys remastering C&C & RA.
OpenRA isn't a replacement for the original games. The balance is totally different and is designed for multiplayer. The bots are dumb and cheat. Nice video despite that!
Yeah fair call! Thanks :)
It's also pretty heavily redesigned to some degree, such as StarCraft/C&C3-style multiple building production, Aircraft mechanics that are also more like C&C3, Harvesters not depositing resources if there is not storage available, and some heavily redesigned units such as the SSM Launcher being replaced with the Mobile SAM.
It's still really good though and I would not like to discourage anyone from trying out OpenRA. It also has a Red Alert and Dune 2000 mod, and a Tiberian Sun mod but that one's still a heavily work in progress.
@@Templarfreak QOL changes are fine, but it's in no way a comparable experience. It's great as a multiplayer fan game.
@@Snufflegrunt Honestly it goes above and beyond a "fan game" IMO. It's a really competent and extremely functional and flexible engine that is entirely open source. I personally don't like some of the changes to the mods themselves but the engine itself is perfectly fine and can be made to be almost totally identical to the original games, with all the QOL changes removed, minus some aesthetic and atmospheric things such as the score screen not being there and no campaign screens. Campaigns and their FMVs themselves are in though.
@@Templarfreak Fan game was not meant a derogatory statement. Don't worry, I have wikipedia right here.
in middle school my friends and i would mimic the unit voice overs along with red alert soviet accents
the nostalgia
C&C series by Westwood, Total Annihilation, Warcraft, and Warzone 2100 are THE Golden Oldies of Real Time Strategy games. Best new is that all of them are still available, and most are FREE. And we get these excellent unbias reviews by gamers like Zane. Total Annihilation (GOG Galaxy version) runs great, and Warzone 2100 has been updated (Warzone2100.net) also works great. Could you do a "Should you play" review on TA and Warzone2100 (if you haven't?). Thanks for the great work. Happy Gaming!!!
Thanks for the kind words! Yep, I'll definitely be covering TA sometime in the near-ish future. Never played Warzone, but I'll see what I can do!
I try to play the c&c series at least once a year well apart from 4 and this game had the best bug were you could build a sandbag wall to the enemy base and seal them in because they did not know how to destroy it.
My fave campaign is Tib wars and fave units is Tib sun but i love this game and RA 1 almost has much.
Sandbags - humanities greatest threat
This game will always be special to me.
After playing the demo 2000 times over (which was two GDI levels), this was the first game I ever bought with my own money. Of course I played thought the Nod campaign first.
I got the Commemorative Edition that had the Covert Operations in the box (still got it too with the poster as well). Back when I got it, you had to run it in DOS, so you could only play it in 640x480 resolution.
Multiplayer at the time was very VERY hard to organise. Hardly anyone had the game in my small Auckland town, parents were out of touch with gaming and were of no help, and Ethernet LAN's were expensive to get as you needed a LAN card and a hub/switch (Which were not cheap at the time). As a kid a LAN was out of the question.
So you had to use a dial up modem (which not many people had) or I think you could also use a serial cable but we didn't have one. When we finally got a modem game sorted it was a huge amount of fun when it didn't disconnect after your mum picks up the phone.
Short answer; yes
Long answer:
yeeeeeeeeeeeeees
The mod Dawn of the Tiberium Age is nice too, imo.
Its hella fun. Best RTS.
I haven't played it - but it looks cool! I'll try to give a crack some time
@@Zade_95 100% worth the time. They also have CO-OP campaigns :D
still waiting for dawn of war 1 review .
Oh yeah?
;)
ThunderPsyker has by far the best review, watch that.
videos on other 90's rts like total annihilation or Warcraft 2 would be cool
;)
Great video as always, are you going to review Renegade sometime in the future?
Thanks mate! Yep, I'd love to. Never played it actually, so it would be good to get around to it!
@@Zade_95 Did you know Renegade is actually a FPS shooter version of C&C?
@@Zade_95 Renegade isn't Half Life, but it's not bad. Of course, if you're a C&C fan, it's great-you get to go inside the tiberium refineries etc and have a cheesy good time :)
I do!
Overall great vid by the way duder. Loved this game back in the day. The soundtrack in particular is fantastic.
Thanks man! Appreciate you watching :)
back in the day games would come with manuals which would tell you almost everything you need to know. unit and building description included. still have both of my original disks as well. got them from a bargin bin back in 2000 i was 7 years old at the time. those were the days
Yeah I get that - I've got some old manuals which I treasure. Impossible Creatures, Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds!
*We're going to have to act, if we want to live in a different world*
I was *this* close to having that line as the opener for the video, but I decided against it in the end!
I remember picking this up for 3 dollars at gamestop. It was a damn steal for how much fun i had on n64 with this legendary game
My first outing with the Tiberium Saga is the 3rd game in the franchise. Tiberium Wars. I've been trying to get into the first game but the GDI is somewhat underwhelming compared to nod unlike their future iterations where their superweapons are on equal footing. Even in Renegade the ion cannon had some appropriate kick to it instead of like an instantaneous zap from the sky.
My first outing with the franchise as a whole was a PS port called Red Alert Retaliation
I always love to hear when people got into certain franchises - in this case for me it was Tiberian Sun :)
if EA fucks up the remaster, we still can mod CnC3 like what they did to "remaster" Tiberian Sun with Tiberium Essence mod and we also have OpenRA. Even though I don't particularly like TibDawn that much, I've been listening to Act on Instinct from the original and Kane's Wrath. RA Retaliation has a remix of No Mercy. I don't remember if this track is from the Tiberium universe but there's also a remix of Mechanical Man.
My first experience was the same: RA Retaliation on PS1. Good times, could never win without cheat codes, lol
1995 was my first Pc and C&C was my first game
That's awesome! Got in before me, mine was Tiberian Sun :)
Zade Tiberium Sun was my favourite, but I haven’t played on Pc in years. I’d would love to get back into it again.
Almost the same here! Got it on Machintosh back in the day. Around '97 I think. Even so, it quickly became my go-to game despite not knowing a single word of english at the time. Totally trial-and-error brute-forced the entire game!
Cool video.
Are you going to cover the Dune RTS games?
Thank you!
I need a newer game for now, but sometime yes, for sure!
Industrial is my mobile phone ring tone.
do you have a second phone to call yourself 24/7
Yep, also when it rings....I let it ring for as long as I can!
There is a browser based port of the full game, including campaigns and multiplayer: www.adityaravishankar.com/projects/games/command-and-conquer/
You can play multiplayer C&C against pretty much anyone, on anything, without any downloads.
I'm pretty sure that windows Red Alert plays at a higher resolution than the windows95 version of C&C Tib Dawn, I think that's why you found the graphics much more tolerable.
I like and appreciate a honest, non-nostalgia led review of this game and agree with your general points, I believe that everyone should check out the remaster!
One of my very top best epic games I have ever played and there have been quite many. Command & Conquer rocks hardest also and the story.. just installing it was more fun than most games then. Very special.
convenient that i'm playing through the C&Cs in order and Tib Dawn is one i just started with. still a classic no matter the features
The first game is tough as balls!
Definitely!
I'm all too Familiar with the GDI campaign by now but Nod? Oof..no holds barred there...
you can heal vehicles and infantry, but for some reason the depot and the medic don't unlock until really, really far into the campaign, which always seemed like a strange design choice to me.
Ah, good to know!
@kt it's not impossible I'm mixing the medic up with Red Alert, as they are very similar. The 2 games share a load of art assets, which makes a mess of distinguishing the 2 of them in my memory.
@@gigaflynn_ "I'm mixing the medic up with Red Alert"
Yes you are, no healing in C&C.
Cant wait to play this remastered!
You and me both!
Picked up the ultimate collection (for about the 3rd time over the years) as I'd never really given this a proper go. I started C&C at tiberium sun. But apart from the scrolling issue it's still a nice game. Without any other good RTS games out at the moment these old gems are still some how keeping the genre alive
Ultimate collection is actually great value, glad to hear you enjoyed!
"Without any other good RTS games out at the moment these old gems are still some how keeping the genre alive"
Have you tried Grey Goo? It's by a bunch of the old Westwood guys, it's pretty good-especially if you like C&C and similar.
@@silversolver7809 just watched a few game play vids of it. Looks like a well put together game. More in line of a starcraft game or Warhammer 40k dawn of war: dark crusades. Few too many turn offs for me though. :/
If the graphics and mechanics are putting you off from playing the older C&C you might want to try this mod that had intended to address those issues www.moddb.com/mods/command-conquer-tiberian-dawn-redux/
would you be doing a video (if not an entire series - I mean, the second and third games were pretty abysmal!) for Empire Earth?
Yep, it's planned! :)
I believe this was also the first game that had a Battle Royale mode.
VERY WELL DONE!!
Thanks buddy!
If you enjoy older RTS games im gonna recommend one less known but it's a gem nonetheless. Original War. A mix of RTS with RPG elements, base building, pretty good story and it aged well. Its still supported by its community. Available on steam, runs on modern PC's no problem :)
Still remember when I first got my hands on this as a kid on the PlayStation was something else can't wait for the remaster can't wait to fight for Nod again
As am I - Peace through Power my friend
One vision one purpose my friend that it won't disappoint
Straight up the single greatest video game ever made, sound track amazing, FMVs, are beautiful, however my biggest complaint is no version is actually ‘the best’
DOS, low res, low quality music, but it genuinely is my preferred way to play.
PS my entry version, super fast and truely hardcore. No save states, no saves at all other than the password system.
N64 is AMAZING, minus the frame rate, lack of FMVs... but, trivia the only version of C&C that actually ran 60fps, the PlayStation version claims 60fps scrolling, but the gameplay is 30, it’s speed tho is cranked to the literal max lol
But it had stereo audio! Which the difference is astounding.
My recommendation for anyone NEW to C&C original, forget the console versions completely, unless your curious or you wanted to maybe try in an emulator.
Fan version straight up, is the version to download of the original game. There’s a MOD, that enables stereo audio, but it easily doubles the install size, so not lightweight, but makes an immense difference. Act on Instinct sounds correct for once, lol
Only gripe there, it’s a small one, FMVs, the fan version for whatever reason, disabled the scan lines added within both the first decade and the origin collection. There’s no toggle for if you want them. And it would be nice if the option was there for width, amount etc.
I remember firing up win7 32bit on my old laptop, first game, original of course, I was kinda amazed by how ‘good the FMVs looked’ with the scanlines, on that display. On a TV it looks horrid, and inconsistent,
I’m so gonna get the remaster, the original game is my favourite game ever made. Red alert, is probably my second or it’s a tied first. It’s really good. I just hope they do the FMVs proper justice, and that by the end of it, it looks like C&Cs equivalent of the StarCraft remastered.
Oh, and Pleaaaaase, for the 10 year-old self in me, can we get a skirmish mode? And for it to NOT be an origin exclusive. I’d happily buy it digital and physical, for my collection.
Got the playstation demo disc with C&C on it. I played that one mission to death and couldnt wait to buy the whole game! The menu system and presentation on the ps1 was a bit better than pc.
I owned this as a teenager and LOVED it.
Admittedly, today, it has not held up well.
I even tried the remaster. It's just so slow paced:
For example, the harvester doesn't just need to travel back to the refinery, but then it takes its time to unload it, what almost seems like credit by credit.
As much as I am a sucker for the OG of just about anything, the Red Alert spin off titles are simply better in every way, I personally think.
Dude, the graphics and interfaces even back then were mindblowing, the birth of serious playable RTS's (compare to for example Dune 2). The interface in this video is the GOLD edition however, which is more modern than the original 1995 DOS version of the C&C game.
TRUE ty
I rember as a youmg teen being obsessed with command and conquer was the gate way to rts games for me good times lead me to play mech commmander games and aoe and my all time fave rts i still play to this day Populous: the begining thats a game that needs a proper remake 1 of the first rts to introduce op hero unit)
Now that's old school! I'd give a remake a try, for sure!
Deeem. Nice one, brother!!
t h a n k y o u r o a l d
:D
Remastered is coming out June 2020!!
Excited!!!
You can repair vehicles using the repair bay
Yep that's my bad - didn't notice while playing! Seems obvious now that I think of it... :P
@@Zade_95 Well it rarely made sense too, it's expensive in a game where where you're forever strapped for cash, a full haul of Tiberium isn't even enough for a medium tank.
Tiberian Sun had the best soundtrack
I'm with ya!
I've been playing it on my PC and laptop with C&C: The First Decade. It's still fun to play and has a great soundtrack. ^_^
Thanks. It's been a short longer while since the last one of these.
>12 minutes ago
clicked as fast as I could.
Appreciate the support!
Also, when talking about OpenRA, although it's a very good initiative, you should mention there's currently no way to play the campaigns to their completion. That seems something that gets often overlooked when recommending OpenRA to play the old games. I mean, yeah, sure, the skirmish mode and multiplayer are well and good, but really, if you want skirmish and multiplayer fun you're better off playing one of the newer games. The main attraction of the old C&C and Red Alert games are their campaign, experiencing how the story started. And back in 1995, before the internet era, that was the main purpose for playing a game as well.
TD always play well.
Dude, I never played this one, but I did play Red Alert, I love that game!! Along with Red Alert 2, Tiberian Sun and Yuri's Revenge!!
You'll like the Red Alert video then! Coming soon tm
@@Zade_95 Awesome!! keep it up!!
I forgot about that website! I played my boss at work 4 years ago!
I hope you beat them - instant promotion
I wish I'd know about the soundtrack before this
Quality, am i right?
@@Zade_95 seriously. I'm a long time fan of frank klepacki and I've never heard this
Have you ever thought about doing a dune 2000 review? That's the game that introduced me to Westwood in all honesty.
One day, yes!
Worth a look and review: Tiberian Dawn Redux is a fan made remaster 10 years in the making of the original C&C that improved upon its gameplay along with a graphics upgrade, including the campaigns. www.moddb.com/mods/command-conquer-tiberian-dawn-redux There are several user playlists right here on RUclips featuring the gameplay in action as well.
Looks pretty sweet! Will need to try it out sometime
Homeworld cataclysm. Best space RTS game.
Expect a video on Homeworld at some point, definitely before 3 is released :P
Awesome! The ability to make or use formations and attack from any direction was awesome. Claw formation from below.
Now if only a star trek RTS game with the same 3D environment was a thing.
Having recently completed the remastered collection I think I’d straightaway probably say that it’s definitely a significant relic of the past and probably best for a play through and that’s about it. Alert one
Nostalgic Goosebumps
I like these videos. Please do the Mass Effect games in the near future.
POG
Mass Effect is my favorite series - played through it countless times. It's in the back pocket, whenever I cover it, it will be IN DEPTH
Thank you for watching btw :)
7:28 this is a bit of a biased interpretation. "Upgrades" are not really a necessary component in an RTS and judging on a game's lack thereof is kind of dumb. Also, as other's have already mentioned, there is the Service Depot, that can repair vehicles. However, you can also _sell_ units on this repair pad. There is also a bug where you can sell infantry that are right next to a wall.
Queuing building of units is also not particularly insightful either. From my perspective, it makes macro in C&C much more interesting and uniquely challenging as compared to most other modern RTS games, however I can forgive this criticism as it is a valid criticism to some degree (however I absolutely *do not* agree with infinite queuing and I think that is a gross simplification of macro).
And camera zoom would honestly be a fucking godsend for Tiberian Dawn so ye I can agree with that lmao.
These graphics were AWESOME in 1995. And yes, I mean the DOS version and not C&C Gold which is the one you’re showing.
Command and conquer 4 was the only C&C game I’ve played it it was AWESOME
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is it sad that watching this i didn't get the urge to actually go play it till hearing the music again... omg All the Cnc tracks by Frank Kl are amazing. if CNC does anything right its music\FOV cutscenes.
Agreed - the soundtrack is super good. Hearing the soundtrack of a game I liked back in the day is the fastest way to hit the nostalgia button!
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.
definetively recomending openRA lot´s of QoL functions that make playing the game less clunky and relevant ..
only thing it lacks is a good skirmish AI and no ranked matchmaking .. but pretty good to play against others or with friends ..
Yeah - unless you're really looking for the original experience, openRA seems to be the way to go!
How on earth did you get this to run on windows 10 without it crashing??
For me, only required 'Run as Administrator'-then it ran perfectly. I have the Origin 17-game collection.
my only regret is never finish the tib dawn mission sadly
also rip Mark Sheppard
D':
Holy shit... Westwood...
Shame what happened.
\o7
Brilliant well done
Thanks mate!
Looking at the bookends of the franchise, gotta say with this weekends experiment Tiberian Dawn Remastered is a way better game than Red Alert 3.
Open RA TibDawn's terrain artstyle gave me serious Total Annihilation vibes tho.
>no healing or repairing
>OpenRA remake getting recommended over the CnCNet and Nyerguds distributions of the original
>no healing or repairing again
You can repair vehicles just not infantry
Yep, I'm blind so it seems !
Honestly I think the graphics are fine. There are other games of the era that have it worse
Agree'd. Mind, I can understand that people find them dated when comparing to what we have today (especially if they didn't grow up with them at the time). But compared to what we had back then, and how some other classical games have aged, C&C pixel graphics are still really damn good for what they had to work with at the time.
I think saying something is 'dated' is different to saying it's 'bad' for sure. I don't doubt their quality for the day, and a lot of people can probably look over the age of it :)
It's just hard for someone used to modern graphics to take a dramatic downgrade - though 'downgrade' is of course suibjective
Still play the N64 version to this day !