One thing to note, is when making backups of footage, don’t go: card -> SSD -> Backup HDD. ALWAYS copy the footage from the CARD to all the drives individually, because if there was an error when copying to the SSD originally, all your backup copies will also have errors. It may be slower, but it’s worth not losing your incredibly valuable data.
. I'm building a new PC , last time I did this was 11 years ago . I was left in awe/flabbergasted as I installed the M.2 ssd (samsung 980 pro 2tb) on my motherboard. Like, Holy fuck ! Its like a stick of butter 🧈. Recently, I got a Crucial p5 m.2 as a second partition. Just amazing how fast technology improves.
@@budz.47I'm building a new pc too and went all in with a motherboard that takes three m.2 drives just to keep the whole thing with as few cables as possible.
Hi Pihilip! Glad I found your channel. We have 3 things in common: 1. We both use NLE, 2. We both use external 4TB SSD, 3. WE BOTH LOVE CATS! When I was in elementary back in 70's-80's, I took care of 27 stray cats. And now I have 3 inside the house and another 8 stray cats that always play and come around our carport. Stay safe and healthy, Philip.
I just changed to NVMe enclosures + SSDs Gen4, with 2500-2700 MB/s Read/Write, for less than $350... never going back to slow, troublesome Raids or NAS
Hey Philip, I've just bought the X10 with 4 terabytes. I'm really looking forward to it living up to your recommendation, especially when it comes to reliability. Price is amazing. Thanks!
hey, can you maybe help me with this question - does this device work as expected when connected to an android/iphone with password protection on, or does the password protection need to be removed in order to be connected to and files shown on an android/iphone? which phone do you use?
Loved the video! You are really creating an awesome stuff. I liked the uniqueness in your videos, cinematic, clarity, great use of music, narrative. Keep doing what you're doing. We need content like these ✨
My first personal hard drive was in 1992 I think, 220MB, all my friends came to my house and wanted to see that beast. 2001 maybe I bought a 40GB IBM and all my colleagues thought I was crazy cause the price was insane. One year later, Those 10K rpm Barracuda SCSI arrays were vibrating my house for video editing. 2019 I bought many 12TB external disks. I have many portable SSDs in my EDC kit and now look at those beautiful and compact Crucial that I'm gonna get for sure. We came a long way when it comes to storage. Yet my best memories are when I had to insert those 30cm vinyl size floppy disks in a computer to play a game 😂
I currently use a 2TB M.2 2030 drive from Sabrent in a PCI-E 4.0 mini enclosure and I love it. Only reason I didn't pick up one of these drives is the price tag and I like being able to switch out the SSD with a different one without having to buy a whole new external drive with enclosure. It may not seem like much of a price difference initially, but I've saved about 500 dollars.
Yeah you're right, they're not terribly priced. I've been doing this with NVME drives in an external enclosure for quite a while now, since prices have fallen, to almost cheap. These Crucial drives are the same thing I'm sure, just purpose built to be this tiny storage device. The day's of conventional slowass USB drives are over, thankfully. Now we have NVME drives galore, with a simple USB interface. Cheers 🍻
NVME doesn't give you anything if it's hanging off a USB strictly speaking. If USB is used anywhere in the connection, it will be the limiting factor in most cases, unless we're talking about old gear that shouldn't be used anyway. The whole raison d'etre of NVME is direct attachment by PCI-E which you are not using or gaining anything from if there is a USB connection of some flavor in between. So, to sum it up, you cannot have NVME connected by USB as one is the opposite of the other, it's like saying your Ferrari is transported faster by a freight train than a Mercedes. No, it's not, both are loaded on the same freight train(USB) so their speed is limited to that of the train(USB), the V12(NVME) in the Ferrari doesn't make it move any faster by train(USB). Conclusion: you cannot have "NVME connected by USB" by definition of what NVME is.
I've been a fan of Crucial for a while, since their industrial side is Micron, serving Apple RAM for ages. Very reliable and good prices. I didn't know they were making a tiny SSD, but I've been loving my Sandisk Extreme Pro 4TB (portable) for editing. 1TB/s speeds on USB-C is the limit unless we go to Thunderbolt 3 drives... definitely considering them if I get anything else, but USB-3 has been fast enough to edit 4K 10-bit without issue.
I edit 4k 12 bit true unbayered raw directly from nvme drive in 3.2 usb enclosure. 400MBs goes easy. I also edit 4k 10bit directly from 100MBs sd card with 3.1 usb reader. For 4k compressed h264 and h265 files everything over 100MBs is overkill 😆
r.c.4752 made me LOL when he said he bought a 40GB IBM drive and all his colleagues thought he was mad. When I bought my first PC and fitted a Miro DC20 Capture Card. Standard Definition 720x576 PAL, remember that. I also bought a 2nd HDD, 210MB (that’s not a typing error, Megabytes) for £240. I told my wife the drives would never get any bigger and any cheaper. It’s your turn to LOL. Philip, your films and techniques are awesome.
I think you'll find that if you run the speed tests on those SSDs that the blazing fast speed you see will drop massively to USB3.1 speeds within 2-3 minutes. I have that problem with every enclosure I've tried, even Thunderbolt 3 enclosures. They will burst a single file or two really well, but if you want to copy over a few hundred gigs from a camera for the whole day's footage, it's gonna chew on it for quite a while. If you use rsync to copy the files, you'll notice the thruput drop is pretty consistent. I get about 4-5 big files through before it drops down to about 55MB/sec.
@@haavardnj I’m using multi, high quality TB3 and TB4 cables. The problem is either the enclosure or the SSDs and I’ve used multiple enclosures and SSDs.
Looks like a great, and reasonably priced turnkey solution. Though there are Thunderbolt 3/USB and even dedicated Thunderbolt 4 NVME external enclosures. My Trebleet Thunderbolt 3/USB with a gen 3 NVME, gets around 2500MB/s on Thunderbolt. A dedicated Thunderbolt 4 enclosure with a Gen 4 NVME SSD should push through around 4500 MB/s. They get bloody hot though!
Didn’t know about these! As a stock video shooter who is regularly buying drives getting such cheap and compact SSDs is an incredible find. Good marketing by crucial and neat video as per usual 😆😀👍🏿
Great drives at a really good price. I have three I use every day and at least two are with me on every filming trip. I transfer from my SD cards to them using Hedge for the iPad on my iPad Pro to keep everything down to a minimum. Hedge will transfer to two or more sources so once set up in the evening I go off to eat while it does its thing. Perfect......
Amazing idea! I like how durable and portable those SSDs look. Although I might go for M.2 SSD enclosures which allow one to use SSDs that are normally mounted internally, the main downside of those types of SSDs however is that they are REALLY thin and might be easy to break. Great video as usual :)
I can say that making sure I verify my copies when I do the original copy is a key part of almost any file transfer workflow I have these days, whether it's from an SD card to an on-site working laptop or an external drive to a NAS. There are utilities like Teracopy that make it super simple on both Mac and Windows to enable file verification by default. It's a little bit slower, but when it comes to data integrity, being safe really is the only choice.
thanks for your reasoning. I tried several 4tb and 8tb ssd's because i needed more space for longer projects. the 8tb ssd's (owc, sabrent) all had issues and had to be returned. maybe i was unlucky. but in the end i invested in a thunderblade 16tb which is costly but very reliable!
Brilliant review, thanks for sharing these amazing tiny SSD’s the 10Pro 4TB is $476 AUD (delivered). I’ve now added a few of these to my wishlist. New subscriber here, Cheers from Western Australia
Great review Philip, you are looking really healthy, vibrant and good energy. Keep up with whatever you are doing. The SSD’s are great and Im definitely going to purchase one with your code, I just have to see if they deliver to Cape Town or I can get a friend to bring it back here without the heavy import duties. Sending much love and a big hug
Have you considered investing in a NAS with SSD cache and 10 Gigabit network card as a long term solution? I set one up for work and that allowed multiple editors to edit concurrently. No more swapping drives. It will provide equivalent speed to the X9 Pro you tested.
The Crucial X8's we bought were very disappointing. The write speed plummets after a certain amount of time/data transfer due to the small cache. So a large transfer will start at lighting speeds, say 8 minutes, and then suddenly slow to snails pace and take 50 minutes (number examples off the top of my head). Absolutely fine for general editing but transferring big blocks of files, super bad. Never had any problems with our Sandisk Extreme Pros 4tb and 2tb's of which we have about 15 of. So i'm a bit wary about these Crucials! But willing to give the 9's a go based on this review. Let's see!
@@philipbloomours does the same thing. Plummets speed after a few minute when copying large files. 1.2tb folder basically slowed down to a crawl after a few minutes.
Thanks for your great videos! Just bought a Samsung T7 Shield, wich is close in specs and price. The Crucial X9 Pro was not on my radar until now and is even smaller than the Samsung.
Not sure If I missed it, but you can also use a fast external SSD drive as your primary boot drive and then use your internal laotop/mac drive as a backup drive. Carbon Copy Cloner may have that feature. I'm using Econ Technologies's Chronosync for backups and also for creating a boot drive image. It's another way of getting faster performance from a system.
All of those hard drives scattered about seem a bit old school, once I consolidated my drives into a Synology server it improved my workflow and automated my backups which happen on a schedule to an offsite server at my parents house. Those backups can be held for much longer this way
Scattered about? Did I show or say that? Mine are very organised in cabinets. Can you store 20 years of projects, some of them 5tb big, on your server?
@@philipbloom Scattered might not have been the best term there but seeing a bunch of independent ssd’s on a table just reminded me of my old workflow and finding a photo on offline drive was a bit cumbersome. My photos are primarily stored in one location on a centralized 150 TB server using a RAID 6 configuration then images are transferred offsite to another Synology I have at my parents house as an affordable cloud solution. I can search through 2m photos and download a photo from 2006 using my browser on my phone if needed. Working projects are on my editing PC where I have nvme drives but are instantly backed up to the server through Synology Drive application with up to 32 versions per image. So should one get messed up or corrupt I just roll it back. Of course when traveling these portable drives are still king though!
@@MarkWebbPhotography whilst a sever who be great for everything, photo archives are a lot smaller than video ones. 150tb wouldn’t come close to being big enough. Obviously that pile of SSDs was for a shot.
@@philipbloom yeah those video projects seem to be 10x bigger than my photo ones so I imagine storing everything is quite a challenge. The servers are definitely useful for team sharing if you need to send things remotely to another person or send things back home if you have good internet. Fiber has been a game changer here and I can send about 100 GB/hour to my remote backup.
The Crucial X8 is also a good one. A fair bit bigger than the X9 or X10, but also metal and a little bit cheaper for 4TB. I've been editing off the X6 and X8 for ages with zero complaints. Handles everything I could throw at it. Multistream 10bit 4K60 is ez with them.
wow, at ~50$ a terrabyte, and those speeds, that is amazing. Older SSDs were only good for about of year of powered off retention before they started to loose stuff. I wonder how these newer ones are doing?
If they are given occational power, it is not a problem. It is when you just have them on a shelf that it was a problem, like you useing them also as a backup.@@philipbloom
These have been useful over years, also Sabrent enclosures for M2 drives and Crucial or other brand fast M2 SSD put in them. Becomes even smaller and handier.
Just to add I have left a couple of the X6 in Africa and had them posted over by African filmmakers or brought over by colleagues when data rates wouldn't allow folks to upload for editing and grading due to cost. Prev they would have tried to get a complete HDD to someone and in some starting out filmmakers that was their only HDD. Helped a fair few African nature shorts get made for film fest entries and the like.
Do you know if these drives work well for recording media directly like for a Blackmagic Pocket camera, and if so how it compares to how people normally use the old Samsung T5 and now the newer replacement Samsung T7?
4TB one of these is £324 via Amazon, 4TB Samsung Evo with an Enclosure, less than £200, even less if you use the QVO. Runs 4K ProRes XQ in full res with no issues. Have multiple QVOs that are years old and have never skipped a beat. So if you want even more savings there's a route for that too.
OK so the 4TB X9 Pro is just over £200 on Amazon. You are looking at the X10 Pro which I can’t use the speeds for as stated in the video. I have an 8Tb EVO and enclosure and it’s great for my very big projects but the speed is half that of the X9 pro. amzn.to/3PvPFe2
@@philipbloom at 4:43 in your video you see a screen cap of you transferring 45 GB of data, the Mac estimates 3 minutes (those things are never super accurate but let's say it is) that means a transfer speed of 0.25GB per second. Windows has super fast disk caching which can boost transfer speeds to 1GB/s for a few seconds but it will then settle to normal, not sure about MacOS. An Evo will hold 400MB/s on a large file from another SSD. crystaldiskmark tests might show one thing but the reality is probably something else. Not sure this X9, other than having some advantage in being small and a single unit, has much speed advantage over the other way.
I’ve used Crucial for on the go storage some of the time, but have relied on the Sabrent Rocket Nano Drives (now in v.2) for filming on my Blackmagic cameras and for a lot of my on the go storage. All metal, fast and to date they’ve been very reliable. I think I have 8 of them at this stage. Another option. Very compact and sturdy.
Have you also considered a NAS, you can get those speeds you’re getting on an SSD, data available across any device and a streamlined workflow without worrying about multiple external drive and backups
I hadn't realised you had a NAS setup already, must have missed that in the video. I was just wondering how you stored all of your long term footage, if you have a NAS that answers the question! You can get NAS now with 10GB connections too for local work which makes editing locally a reality as opposed to 1GB @@philipbloom
@@20centurymodern oh but I don’t store my long term footage on a NAS. They are on those separate drives. My NAS has all my master edits. Current edit projects. Photos catalogues (also back up separately)
It's always interesting hearing how other people work and their workflow. The amount of data being pushed out these days is immense and storing them safely is paramount. Do you have a video showing your NAS workflow setup?@@philipbloom
Yes they are good but they didn’t sponsor my video did they? 🙂 Also I would check your facts for the last bit. X9 pro definitely cheaper than the Samsung T7 rugged.
@@philipbloom lol true 😆 my mistake I was looking at the X10 but the X9 is definitely cheaper. Wish I'd had one for some on site editing jobs last year, client provided some 5400rpm 4TB external drives for backup and waiting for the backups to copy felt like it was shaving years off my life.
I read that over a dozen remote sensing satellites regularly use The one and Only PB's residence as a standardization/calibration loci for their various electromagnetic sensors, could be true?
Just bought an X9 2TB based on your recommendation, hoping it would be a major upgrade over the SanDisk I have been using for about a year. Thus far... not very impressed. I'm getting much more random freezing and hitching during playback than I did with the SanDisk. Boo...
I bought one of the Crucial X6 4TB SSD's a year or two ago for use on my Plex server as a scratch drive for ripping and re-compressing. The drive read/write speed is rated at 800 MB/s. I connected it to the PC with a third party USB-C cable that was slightly longer than the cable included with the SSD. For many months I was wondering why this SSD was only read/writing at around 40MB/s. Last week I finally tried using the included USB-C cable and now it's read/writing around 400-500MB/s! My mistake was assuming that the third party USB-C cable was a USB 3 speed compatible cable, it was not! Swapping the cable back and forth revealed it only worked at USB 2 speed. A double Picard face palm was enacted at that revelation. 🤲😵💫
It seems like there might be a challenge with understanding what's being said when the speaker's voice becomes softer and they speak quickly. In these situations, relying on subtitles can be really helpful. However, it can still be tricky if the subtitles aren't able to accurately transcribe the speech. This could be due to various factors, like the quality of the audio or the speed of the speech. It's not uncommon for automated systems to struggle with this.
Glad the prices are coming down. I currently have an external hard disk drive for most of my Lightroom catalog, but I could fit it all on a 4 TB SSD with a little over 1 TB remaining (I'm talking about photos, mostly). I think I'll replace that external drive with a 4 TB SSD! I don't have USB 3.2 ports, but I do have 3.0 which should still be a lot faster with a SSD connected, compared to the hard drive.
I purchased two crucial x6 500 gb two years ago, they were incredibly slow and throttled/buffered like crazy. I had much better luck with the Samsung T series or glyphs. Don’t get me started on Sandisk, had multiple fail.
Thank you Philip, fine info here! I think this begs the question: how do you configure platforms (MS desktop, laptop and/or Mac) to be exactly the same so that you have your NLE and all its Suites' and/or plupings/addins to interact with the data you are transporting as you work through your Editing Process from platform to platform???
@@sun-eye The SSD you listed is a Gen4 SSD. It's way overkill with 7 gigabytes/s read/write as even with Thunderbolt you get a max of 40 Gbps, most USB-C ports max out at 10 Gbps. So a cheaper SSD with 4 Gigabytes/s will still be same or better than the X10 from cruicial, while being overall cheaper AND upgradable.
@@sun-eye it definitely depends on where you live. But in the EU a Crucial P3 4TB SSD goes for about €170. Try to look for SSDs that are older/slower - Gen3 SSDs will still be faster than any USB connection. Only SATA speeds will be slower than a fast USB connection, but still pretty good at about 600mb/s. Regarding USB: 3.2 Gen 2x2(I hate how they name it), tops out at about 20 Gbps. So 1/2 of Thunderbolt 4. And yes, you need a good cable for that. Also: if you want more than 10Gbps(~1GB/s), you need to look closely to what enclosure you buy. Most of them are just 10Gbps.
@@sun-eye The reason why your WD SN850X was so expensive is because it's the top of the line and the fastest you can get right now. You don't need that for a portable drive, since these speeds are only achievable via PCIe.
@@sun-eye I don't think there is a camera on the market that can take advantage of the speeds your SSD offers. I might be mistaken, but I don't think there is a camera that would saturate a 10Gbps bus - that'd be 1/7th of what your WD can handle. Do make sure you get a good heatsink when you put it into your PC. Gen4 SSDs can get very hot. Regarding any future purchases: ask yourself if you ever need more than 10Gbps - Philip doesn't even own a device that could test the faster X10 Pro with 20Gbps and he seems perfectly happy. His top speed of 800mb/s is still much less than a 10Gbps connection can handle.
Not really. I have a big NAS set up in my office with 10 bays of 10tb drives but that’s locked in the office. Great when editing in there but I have that problem that they are no good when I am away from home as a I say in the video. The cheap hard drive back ups don’t clog up my NAS drives. I don’t need quick access to the old projects once they are done generally.
The Samsung SSD's go for about the same price but have a solid reputation. I have one and love it. How would you compare? Any advantage with this brand? Thanks.
Hmm. Makes me wonder if you could instead use an external Network Attached Storage device with 10Gbit/s interfaces and NVME SSDs as the write and read cache devices? Or maybe an all-SSD NAS? Synology and other vendors sell these things, and for your home editing workflow, I think they could do quite well. Obviously you'd need more portable devices for use on the road.
Yes the entire point is cheap, large capacity and small drives that can be attached to my edit suite and can also be unplugged for when I am not there and slipped into the pouch on the back of my laptop. I
Hi dude, ur opinion best ssd ip15pm for videos prores and editing in drive lumafusion sandisk extreme e61 v2, samsung t7 shield or crucial x9 pro ? please guide, I will buy it tomorrow
For 85% of people capacity is way more important than top speed throughput. Geesh, I would have thought Bloom would have some crazy dual 500TB RAID array connected to 10Gb fiber optic system to edit on and the second for simple storage.
Great video! Do you know… if you transfer a large amount of data on to the drive do the speeds slow down? That’s been a complaint of most portable SSDs.
@@philipbloom Apparently, after asking a few people about it, it seems that the X9 Pro do not have very good "sustained speed". I don't know about other cameras, but SSDs for the Sigma FP need good sustained speed to function properly, so even if the X9 Pro has fast read/write speed, it apparently does not have good sustained speed, unfortunately.
One thing to note, is when making backups of footage, don’t go: card -> SSD -> Backup HDD. ALWAYS copy the footage from the CARD to all the drives individually, because if there was an error when copying to the SSD originally, all your backup copies will also have errors. It may be slower, but it’s worth not losing your incredibly valuable data.
If you're editing in Resolve, there's a built in clone tool with checksum that's worth considering
Good advice
@@MrAlexTechwhere exactly can you find it?
Good point! Thanks for sharing!
@@theowlfromduolingo7982 Clone tool can be found in the media tab
I love seeing how small tech gets over the years, 20 years ago a 60gb HHD was top of the line and it was a tank. Now 4tb is on a keychain.
. I'm building a new PC , last time I did this was 11 years ago . I was left in awe/flabbergasted as I installed the M.2 ssd (samsung 980 pro 2tb) on my motherboard. Like, Holy fuck ! Its like a stick of butter 🧈. Recently, I got a Crucial p5 m.2 as a second partition. Just amazing how fast technology improves.
@@budz.47I'm building a new pc too and went all in with a motherboard that takes three m.2 drives just to keep the whole thing with as few cables as possible.
Hi Pihilip! Glad I found your channel. We have 3 things in common: 1. We both use NLE, 2. We both use external 4TB SSD, 3. WE BOTH LOVE CATS! When I was in elementary back in 70's-80's, I took care of 27 stray cats. And now I have 3 inside the house and another 8 stray cats that always play and come around our carport. Stay safe and healthy, Philip.
Overproud strikes again 😅
That's great! I've used these on my last 2 projects and to have THE Phillip Bloom validate my choices feels amazing, haha.
I just changed to NVMe enclosures + SSDs Gen4, with 2500-2700 MB/s Read/Write, for less than $350... never going back to slow, troublesome Raids or NAS
Been watching Philip for years and I think his video are so well done and incredibly helpful 🎉
We got a couple of these for shooting at work the other day. They are awesome! Fast, reliable, large capacity and doesn't break the bank!
Hey Philip, I've just bought the X10 with 4 terabytes. I'm really looking forward to it living up to your recommendation, especially when it comes to reliability. Price is amazing. Thanks!
hey, can you maybe help me with this question - does this device work as expected when connected to an android/iphone with password protection on, or does the password protection need to be removed in order to be connected to and files shown on an android/iphone? which phone do you use?
Another excellent and useful video, Philip. Thanks as always!
Thank you :)
The like is for the cat! What a lovely thing.
Amen to Carbon Copy Cloner. The BEST backup software you can’t do without.
Loved the video!
You are really creating an awesome stuff. I liked the uniqueness in your videos, cinematic, clarity, great use of music, narrative.
Keep doing what you're doing. We need content like these ✨
My first personal hard drive was in 1992 I think, 220MB, all my friends came to my house and wanted to see that beast. 2001 maybe I bought a 40GB IBM and all my colleagues thought I was crazy cause the price was insane. One year later, Those 10K rpm Barracuda SCSI arrays were vibrating my house for video editing. 2019 I bought many 12TB external disks. I have many portable SSDs in my EDC kit and now look at those beautiful and compact Crucial that I'm gonna get for sure.
We came a long way when it comes to storage. Yet my best memories are when I had to insert those 30cm vinyl size floppy disks in a computer to play a game 😂
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Damn! These are crazy cheap! Love how you’re able to turn such a dull subject into an enjoyable video 😊
I will definitely have to look at this more for my shop. Thanks aa always PB for the wonderful, very detailed review as always sir.
Philip never disappoints. Great video. Gonna check these out
I currently use a 2TB M.2 2030 drive from Sabrent in a PCI-E 4.0 mini enclosure and I love it. Only reason I didn't pick up one of these drives is the price tag and I like being able to switch out the SSD with a different one without having to buy a whole new external drive with enclosure. It may not seem like much of a price difference initially, but I've saved about 500 dollars.
Golden, Blooming nice!
Yeah you're right, they're not terribly priced. I've been doing this with NVME drives in an external enclosure for quite a while now, since prices have fallen, to almost cheap. These Crucial drives are the same thing I'm sure, just purpose built to be this tiny storage device. The day's of conventional slowass USB drives are over, thankfully. Now we have NVME drives galore, with a simple USB interface. Cheers 🍻
NVME doesn't give you anything if it's hanging off a USB strictly speaking. If USB is used anywhere in the connection, it will be the limiting factor in most cases, unless we're talking about old gear that shouldn't be used anyway. The whole raison d'etre of NVME is direct attachment by PCI-E which you are not using or gaining anything from if there is a USB connection of some flavor in between. So, to sum it up, you cannot have NVME connected by USB as one is the opposite of the other, it's like saying your Ferrari is transported faster by a freight train than a Mercedes. No, it's not, both are loaded on the same freight train(USB) so their speed is limited to that of the train(USB), the V12(NVME) in the Ferrari doesn't make it move any faster by train(USB).
Conclusion: you cannot have "NVME connected by USB" by definition of what NVME is.
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I must have forgotten to turn my idiot attractor off, it's obviously still cranked right up to 11. 🙄
I've been a fan of Crucial for a while, since their industrial side is Micron, serving Apple RAM for ages. Very reliable and good prices. I didn't know they were making a tiny SSD, but I've been loving my Sandisk Extreme Pro 4TB (portable) for editing. 1TB/s speeds on USB-C is the limit unless we go to Thunderbolt 3 drives... definitely considering them if I get anything else, but USB-3 has been fast enough to edit 4K 10-bit without issue.
I edit 4k 12 bit true unbayered raw directly from nvme drive in 3.2 usb enclosure. 400MBs goes easy. I also edit 4k 10bit directly from 100MBs sd card with 3.1 usb reader. For 4k compressed h264 and h265 files everything over 100MBs is overkill 😆
@@smalldeekgeorge Agreed that it's overkill unless it's multiple streams.
Thank you Philip!
I love that keychain something @0:40
r.c.4752 made me LOL when he said he bought a 40GB IBM drive and all his colleagues thought he was mad. When I bought my first PC and fitted a Miro DC20 Capture Card. Standard Definition 720x576 PAL, remember that. I also bought a 2nd HDD, 210MB (that’s not a typing error, Megabytes) for £240. I told my wife the drives would never get any bigger and any cheaper. It’s your turn to LOL.
Philip, your films and techniques are awesome.
I think you'll find that if you run the speed tests on those SSDs that the blazing fast speed you see will drop massively to USB3.1 speeds within 2-3 minutes. I have that problem with every enclosure I've tried, even Thunderbolt 3 enclosures. They will burst a single file or two really well, but if you want to copy over a few hundred gigs from a camera for the whole day's footage, it's gonna chew on it for quite a while.
If you use rsync to copy the files, you'll notice the thruput drop is pretty consistent. I get about 4-5 big files through before it drops down to about 55MB/sec.
I copied over 300 gigs yesterday by drag and drop from one X9 to another. The speed was consistent and fast all the way through.
But I normally use Carbon Copy Cloner for backing up and one backup I did was 5 times faster than the same one to HDD.
40-50 MB/s is the USB2.0 limit, you need a new cable
@@haavardnj I’m using multi, high quality TB3 and TB4 cables. The problem is either the enclosure or the SSDs and I’ve used multiple enclosures and SSDs.
Looks like a great, and reasonably priced turnkey solution.
Though there are Thunderbolt 3/USB and even dedicated Thunderbolt 4 NVME external enclosures. My Trebleet Thunderbolt 3/USB with a gen 3 NVME, gets around 2500MB/s on Thunderbolt.
A dedicated Thunderbolt 4 enclosure with a Gen 4 NVME SSD should push through around 4500 MB/s.
They get bloody hot though!
Didn’t know about these! As a stock video shooter who is regularly buying drives getting such cheap and compact SSDs is an incredible find. Good marketing by crucial and neat video as per usual 😆😀👍🏿
You and the cats are looking great, aweseome view into improving the editing workflow. Always great seeing your videos!
Great drives at a really good price. I have three I use every day and at least two are with me on every filming trip. I transfer from my SD cards to them using Hedge for the iPad on my iPad Pro to keep everything down to a minimum. Hedge will transfer to two or more sources so once set up in the evening I go off to eat while it does its thing. Perfect......
Brilliant video, shots and crisp editing
Amazing idea! I like how durable and portable those SSDs look. Although I might go for M.2 SSD enclosures which allow one to use SSDs that are normally mounted internally, the main downside of those types of SSDs however is that they are REALLY thin and might be easy to break. Great video as usual :)
1st time on your channel & im hooked. Video was like a journey with the best storyteller. 👍
thanks so much!
Have been using Carbon Copy Cloner for nearly 2 decades. Never fails, unlike HDs that will all fail one day. Almost best purchase ever made.
I can say that making sure I verify my copies when I do the original copy is a key part of almost any file transfer workflow I have these days, whether it's from an SD card to an on-site working laptop or an external drive to a NAS. There are utilities like Teracopy that make it super simple on both Mac and Windows to enable file verification by default. It's a little bit slower, but when it comes to data integrity, being safe really is the only choice.
thanks for your reasoning. I tried several 4tb and 8tb ssd's because i needed more space for longer projects. the 8tb ssd's (owc, sabrent) all had issues and had to be returned. maybe i was unlucky. but in the end i invested in a thunderblade 16tb which is costly but very reliable!
Anything biger than 4tb you are best off getting an enterprise HDD based ext drive and just keeping that data in immediate use on SSD.
I use Amazon Glacier to backup everything just in case, and long term off loading. I’ve +10TB up at moment and it’s about £10 a month
Hey Phillip I love the drama when you tell us the amount of storage used in your footage 🤣
Brilliant review, thanks for sharing these amazing tiny SSD’s the 10Pro 4TB is $476 AUD (delivered). I’ve now added a few of these to my wishlist. New subscriber here, Cheers from Western Australia
Nice insights, Philip! I love how you put this together. Great informational and fun watch 😁👏
grabbed me two 4TB NVME and stacked them in a RAID enclosure pushing USB4 40GBS. does the trick for me. editing BRAW in real time off it
fantastic video Philip. i always find myself backing up to 4 drives
Great review Philip, you are looking really healthy, vibrant and good energy. Keep up with whatever you are doing.
The SSD’s are great and Im definitely going to purchase one with your code, I just have to see if they deliver to Cape Town or I can get a friend to bring it back here without the heavy import duties. Sending much love and a big hug
Thank you. It’s all an act for the camera and my diffusion filter!
But the drive locally if it’s cheaper, save your money! The link is purely for them to track referrals from the vid.
Really handy and fast drives. Thanks for the review 🙂
Have you considered investing in a NAS with SSD cache and 10 Gigabit network card as a long term solution? I set one up for work and that allowed multiple editors to edit concurrently. No more swapping drives. It will provide equivalent speed to the X9 Pro you tested.
That’s only useful if you edit in one single location. My system works perfectly thanks.
This is great, thanks - easy to watch, nice music selection. I now looking to see if I can get any stock in South Africa! 👍
The Crucial X8's we bought were very disappointing. The write speed plummets after a certain amount of time/data transfer due to the small cache. So a large transfer will start at lighting speeds, say 8 minutes, and then suddenly slow to snails pace and take 50 minutes (number examples off the top of my head). Absolutely fine for general editing but transferring big blocks of files, super bad.
Never had any problems with our Sandisk Extreme Pros 4tb and 2tb's of which we have about 15 of. So i'm a bit wary about these Crucials! But willing to give the 9's a go based on this review. Let's see!
I’ve copied a 200gb file from one X9 pro drive to another and it maintained the same speed.
@@philipbloomours does the same thing. Plummets speed after a few minute when copying large files. 1.2tb folder basically slowed down to a crawl after a few minutes.
Thanks for your great videos!
Just bought a Samsung T7 Shield, wich is close in specs and price. The Crucial X9 Pro was not on my radar until now and is even smaller than the Samsung.
I love the samsung shield, and cheaper now
Samsung is more reliable.
Not sure If I missed it, but you can also use a fast external SSD drive as your primary boot drive and then use your internal laotop/mac drive as a backup drive. Carbon Copy Cloner may have that feature. I'm using Econ Technologies's Chronosync for backups and also for creating a boot drive image. It's another way of getting faster performance from a system.
i just bought a crucial x9 pro 4tb external ssd 2 days ago 😅
Smart!
All of those hard drives scattered about seem a bit old school, once I consolidated my drives into a Synology server it improved my workflow and automated my backups which happen on a schedule to an offsite server at my parents house. Those backups can be held for much longer this way
Scattered about? Did I show or say that? Mine are very organised in cabinets. Can you store 20 years of projects, some of them 5tb big, on your server?
@@philipbloom Scattered might not have been the best term there but seeing a bunch of independent ssd’s on a table just reminded me of my old workflow and finding a photo on offline drive was a bit cumbersome. My photos are primarily stored in one location on a centralized 150 TB server using a RAID 6 configuration then images are transferred offsite to another Synology I have at my parents house as an affordable cloud solution. I can search through 2m photos and download a photo from 2006 using my browser on my phone if needed. Working projects are on my editing PC where I have nvme drives but are instantly backed up to the server through Synology Drive application with up to 32 versions per image. So should one get messed up or corrupt I just roll it back. Of course when traveling these portable drives are still king though!
@@MarkWebbPhotography whilst a sever who be great for everything, photo archives are a lot smaller than video ones. 150tb wouldn’t come close to being big enough.
Obviously that pile of SSDs was for a shot.
@@philipbloom yeah those video projects seem to be 10x bigger than my photo ones so I imagine storing everything is quite a challenge. The servers are definitely useful for team sharing if you need to send things remotely to another person or send things back home if you have good internet. Fiber has been a game changer here and I can send about 100 GB/hour to my remote backup.
hey Philip, i love your music selection for this video! would love to know where you source these, thank you. 😊
The Crucial X8 is also a good one. A fair bit bigger than the X9 or X10, but also metal and a little bit cheaper for 4TB.
I've been editing off the X6 and X8 for ages with zero complaints. Handles everything I could throw at it. Multistream 10bit 4K60 is ez with them.
Mr. Bloom good to see you. I know you since you are new in youtube. Wow. So many years. How are you mate?
wow, at ~50$ a terrabyte, and those speeds, that is amazing. Older SSDs were only good for about of year of powered off retention before they started to loose stuff. I wonder how these newer ones are doing?
I’ve been using the x6 ones solidly for two years and not a hiccup.
If they are given occational power, it is not a problem. It is when you just have them on a shelf that it was a problem, like you useing them also as a backup.@@philipbloom
@@steveschnetzler5471 I don’t use them as backups. They are active drives constantly.
Solid review. ordering two X9s as can’t take advantage of X10 speed on Mac. 👌
These have been useful over years, also Sabrent enclosures for M2 drives and Crucial or other brand fast M2 SSD put in them. Becomes even smaller and handier.
Just to add I have left a couple of the X6 in Africa and had them posted over by African filmmakers or brought over by colleagues when data rates wouldn't allow folks to upload for editing and grading due to cost.
Prev they would have tried to get a complete HDD to someone and in some starting out filmmakers that was their only HDD.
Helped a fair few African nature shorts get made for film fest entries and the like.
Your awesome, thanks!
I ended up getting NVME drives in a small caddy and they're even faster than 1gig a second. And I can can get 8tb versions
The first and only SSD I've ever had fail. Appreciate the recommendation, hopefully one bad apple. (Sad for three clients though).
Do you know if these drives work well for recording media directly like for a Blackmagic Pocket camera, and if so how it compares to how people normally use the old Samsung T5 and now the newer replacement Samsung T7?
4TB one of these is £324 via Amazon, 4TB Samsung Evo with an Enclosure, less than £200, even less if you use the QVO. Runs 4K ProRes XQ in full res with no issues. Have multiple QVOs that are years old and have never skipped a beat. So if you want even more savings there's a route for that too.
OK so the 4TB X9 Pro is just over £200 on Amazon. You are looking at the X10 Pro which I can’t use the speeds for as stated in the video. I have an 8Tb EVO and enclosure and it’s great for my very big projects but the speed is half that of the X9 pro.
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@@philipbloom at 4:43 in your video you see a screen cap of you transferring 45 GB of data, the Mac estimates 3 minutes (those things are never super accurate but let's say it is) that means a transfer speed of 0.25GB per second. Windows has super fast disk caching which can boost transfer speeds to 1GB/s for a few seconds but it will then settle to normal, not sure about MacOS. An Evo will hold 400MB/s on a large file from another SSD. crystaldiskmark tests might show one thing but the reality is probably something else. Not sure this X9, other than having some advantage in being small and a single unit, has much speed advantage over the other way.
Philip... Have you ever thought about the possibility of testing the Tropic Colour's "Space Shuttle SSD"...???
I can’t just buy things to review. I was already using Crucial x6 drives when they approached me.
Great video thanks for this post.
I’ve used Crucial for on the go storage some of the time, but have relied on the Sabrent Rocket Nano Drives (now in v.2) for filming on my Blackmagic cameras and for a lot of my on the go storage. All metal, fast and to date they’ve been very reliable. I think I have 8 of them at this stage. Another option. Very compact and sturdy.
As cheap as these?
@@philipbloom The X10 however looks like a better deal at today’s prices. Of course these fluctuate from week to week.
@@philipbloomwhats the tbw write endurance of yur ssd for editing?
Thanks for the advice on SSD
Just wondering, Philip, where did you get your cat portraits from/made?
Have you also considered a NAS, you can get those speeds you’re getting on an SSD, data available across any device and a streamlined workflow without worrying about multiple external drive and backups
Looks like you missed a key reason why I need these.
I already have a large NAS set up. Useless for long term archiving and editing on the go.
I hadn't realised you had a NAS setup already, must have missed that in the video. I was just wondering how you stored all of your long term footage, if you have a NAS that answers the question! You can get NAS now with 10GB connections too for local work which makes editing locally a reality as opposed to 1GB @@philipbloom
@@20centurymodern oh but I don’t store my long term footage on a NAS. They are on those separate drives. My NAS has all my master edits. Current edit projects. Photos catalogues (also back up separately)
It's always interesting hearing how other people work and their workflow. The amount of data being pushed out these days is immense and storing them safely is paramount. Do you have a video showing your NAS workflow setup?@@philipbloom
@@20centurymodern afraid not. I don’t make many videos!
Sony Burano review coming soon?
Aww, yes. "Editing"
I simply call it "torture" haha
Great video, bud.
Samsung T7 drives are also extremely fast and small, I believe the Samsung rugged T7 4TB is cheaper than Cruicial's offering as well
Yes they are good but they didn’t sponsor my video did they? 🙂 Also I would check your facts for the last bit. X9 pro definitely cheaper than the Samsung T7 rugged.
@@philipbloom lol true 😆 my mistake I was looking at the X10 but the X9 is definitely cheaper. Wish I'd had one for some on site editing jobs last year, client provided some 5400rpm 4TB external drives for backup and waiting for the backups to copy felt like it was shaving years off my life.
I read that over a dozen remote sensing satellites regularly use The one and Only PB's residence as a standardization/calibration loci for their various electromagnetic sensors, could be true?
Your thoughts on OWC Envoy Pro FX? I have 3 4TB drives. Use them for travel . They travel well.
Sorry, never used them.
Great video - wondering where you get those little sticker pouches you put on the back of your laptop?
Thank you. Just from Amazon. Search for laptop organiser or something similar.
Okay FINE I'll get it haha! So good!
*Will they work with Android phones?*
They are SSDs so if your phone recognises SSDs, then yes.
Just bought an X9 2TB based on your recommendation, hoping it would be a major upgrade over the SanDisk I have been using for about a year. Thus far... not very impressed. I'm getting much more random freezing and hitching during playback than I did with the SanDisk. Boo...
Good tip thanks and well done video.
I bought one of the Crucial X6 4TB SSD's a year or two ago for use on my Plex server as a scratch drive for ripping and re-compressing. The drive read/write speed is rated at 800 MB/s. I connected it to the PC with a third party USB-C cable that was slightly longer than the cable included with the SSD. For many months I was wondering why this SSD was only read/writing at around 40MB/s. Last week I finally tried using the included USB-C cable and now it's read/writing around 400-500MB/s!
My mistake was assuming that the third party USB-C cable was a USB 3 speed compatible cable, it was not!
Swapping the cable back and forth revealed it only worked at USB 2 speed.
A double Picard face palm was enacted at that revelation. 🤲😵💫
It seems like there might be a challenge with understanding what's being said when the speaker's voice becomes softer and they speak quickly. In these situations, relying on subtitles can be really helpful. However, it can still be tricky if the subtitles aren't able to accurately transcribe the speech. This could be due to various factors, like the quality of the audio or the speed of the speech. It's not uncommon for automated systems to struggle with this.
Wow. An AI comment! How ironic!
Love ya bro!!!
What’s difference between crucial 9 pro vs the crucial 9 for Mac? I’m using for Logic Pro and may partition for Time Machine backup.
I think they just change the settings /reformat it for users convinience
Just read a review that says these dont handle 4k footage well... Is this true?
Yeah, I saw the Burano folder
I can not believe I have never seen these before the price is amazing. Do you know if these are good for filming? I want to use them with my BMPCC6K
Glad the prices are coming down. I currently have an external hard disk drive for most of my Lightroom catalog, but I could fit it all on a 4 TB SSD with a little over 1 TB remaining (I'm talking about photos, mostly). I think I'll replace that external drive with a 4 TB SSD! I don't have USB 3.2 ports, but I do have 3.0 which should still be a lot faster with a SSD connected, compared to the hard drive.
I purchased two crucial x6 500 gb two years ago, they were incredibly slow and throttled/buffered like crazy. I had much better luck with the Samsung T series or glyphs. Don’t get me started on Sandisk, had multiple fail.
I wonder what's inside that Malaysia folder... 🤨
you can see stuff from there in my recent "Bloom Gold diffusion filter video"
Thank you Philip, fine info here! I think this begs the question: how do you configure platforms (MS desktop, laptop and/or Mac) to be exactly the same so that you have your NLE and all its Suites' and/or plupings/addins to interact with the data you are transporting as you work through your Editing Process from platform to platform???
Nice review but what is the adhesive sleeve you use on the MacBook please?? Been looking for a decent one for a while!!
Just a simple stick on organiser from Amazon.
For me, I just bought an M.2 SSD enclosure and can swap disks for whatever is affordable in the future.
@@sun-eye I bough an m.2 enclosure for €15. It's MUCH cheaper. A 4TB m.2 costs €170. 4TB Crucial X10 costs €380
@@sun-eye The SSD you listed is a Gen4 SSD. It's way overkill with 7 gigabytes/s read/write as even with Thunderbolt you get a max of 40 Gbps, most USB-C ports max out at 10 Gbps. So a cheaper SSD with 4 Gigabytes/s will still be same or better than the X10 from cruicial, while being overall cheaper AND upgradable.
@@sun-eye it definitely depends on where you live. But in the EU a Crucial P3 4TB SSD goes for about €170.
Try to look for SSDs that are older/slower - Gen3 SSDs will still be faster than any USB connection. Only SATA speeds will be slower than a fast USB connection, but still pretty good at about 600mb/s.
Regarding USB: 3.2 Gen 2x2(I hate how they name it), tops out at about 20 Gbps. So 1/2 of Thunderbolt 4.
And yes, you need a good cable for that.
Also: if you want more than 10Gbps(~1GB/s), you need to look closely to what enclosure you buy. Most of them are just 10Gbps.
@@sun-eye The reason why your WD SN850X was so expensive is because it's the top of the line and the fastest you can get right now. You don't need that for a portable drive, since these speeds are only achievable via PCIe.
@@sun-eye I don't think there is a camera on the market that can take advantage of the speeds your SSD offers. I might be mistaken, but I don't think there is a camera that would saturate a 10Gbps bus - that'd be 1/7th of what your WD can handle.
Do make sure you get a good heatsink when you put it into your PC. Gen4 SSDs can get very hot.
Regarding any future purchases: ask yourself if you ever need more than 10Gbps - Philip doesn't even own a device that could test the faster X10 Pro with 20Gbps and he seems perfectly happy. His top speed of 800mb/s is still much less than a 10Gbps connection can handle.
great job! you need a 10gbe NAS for backup and work off of.
Not really. I have a big NAS set up in my office with 10 bays of 10tb drives but that’s locked in the office. Great when editing in there but I have that problem that they are no good when I am away from home as a I say in the video.
The cheap hard drive back ups don’t clog up my NAS drives. I don’t need quick access to the old projects once they are done generally.
yeh your more mobile, im always not so much. well it looks like a great product, ill check it out. thank you!@@philipbloom
The Samsung SSD's go for about the same price but have a solid reputation. I have one and love it. How would you compare? Any advantage with this brand? Thanks.
Hmm. Makes me wonder if you could instead use an external Network Attached Storage device with 10Gbit/s interfaces and NVME SSDs as the write and read cache devices? Or maybe an all-SSD NAS? Synology and other vendors sell these things, and for your home editing workflow, I think they could do quite well. Obviously you'd need more portable devices for use on the road.
Yes the entire point is cheap, large capacity and small drives that can be attached to my edit suite and can also be unplugged for when I am not there and slipped into the pouch on the back of my laptop.
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Hi dude, ur opinion best ssd ip15pm for videos prores and editing in drive lumafusion sandisk extreme e61 v2, samsung t7 shield or crucial x9 pro ? please guide, I will buy it tomorrow
are these good for pro res 4444?
For 85% of people capacity is way more important than top speed throughput. Geesh, I would have thought Bloom would have some crazy dual 500TB RAID array connected to 10Gb fiber optic system to edit on and the second for simple storage.
Great video! Do you know… if you transfer a large amount of data on to the drive do the speeds slow down? That’s been a complaint of most portable SSDs.
Thank you. I’ve not experienced it myself.
Does the metal heat it up more than the X6's plastic?
Other way round.
can i edit 4k 422 10bit on x10?
I’m curious if these can be used with the iPhone 15 Pro which lets you record 4K60 Log ProRes to an external SSD.
I believe then can.
are they compatible with m1 max?
Do anyone know if the X9 Pro will work with the Sigma FP camera? The FP is quite moody regarding which SSDs can work properly.
I haven’t tested it. It’s certainly more than fast enough.
@@philipbloom Apparently, after asking a few people about it, it seems that the X9 Pro do not have very good "sustained speed". I don't know about other cameras, but SSDs for the Sigma FP need good sustained speed to function properly, so even if the X9 Pro has fast read/write speed, it apparently does not have good sustained speed, unfortunately.