John, so glad to see you working with electric cars. I think you would contribute and massive boost to that industry. Thanks again for the tour that your staff gave me last time I was in LA I am currently in San Diego until June 5th and I'm going to visit EV West again. I am researching parts for a full size pickup truck that we will convert back in New Jersey at a local college.
My ‘64 Beetle has a range of between 170 and 190 miles I think. Haven’t run it down to zero to find out. I’m running a Hyper 9HV motor and 7 batteries, 3 in the frunk and 4 behind the back seat. It’s a rocket!
My Dad used to have a Thing. It was a great Mexico car. No worry about parking dings, take off the doors, lower the windshield and ride! It was odd him having that car having retired from the CHP as Deputy Chief. Why not put all the batteries on the bottom of the flat floor pan?
I come at this from another direction. It is nice that electric can be better for emissions, but I don't even really care. I just find it so cool that you get mostly silent powerful propulsion that you "fuel up" in your own garage! The fact that electric motors can last virtually forever while being maintenance free is groovy too.
anyone who "poo poo's" electric cars as a whole have obviously never driven one.....the amount of instant torque you get is incredible! That alone is worth the try.
Did you order one? I'm curious because I was thinking of ordering one too but I only have $12 to my name and Icon is probably charging 300k for one. Also, have you ever been bird watching?
A stock vw in well sorted condition is a very reliable, fun car. It goes ok and stops well. It’s easy to fix on the rare occasion something does go wrong. And the engine in the gas engine car sounds great. The electric version is quicker (though not much in this comparison) but what about the downsides: You loose the mechanical ness that’s part of the reason for buying something vintage Lousy range Can you add heat and a/c as you can to a stock vw? No spare tire and very little luggage room in a car that already has a limited amount. 4-5 times the price A thing as well as a bug are a great platform for off reading. That goes away with the electric version due to weight and that limited range.
if you charge it at night you defeat the purpose. Your burning coal or natural gas. No sugar coating here. So you either like fracking or huge coal pollution. Plus you factor in the battery waste and footprint for manufacturing and you are creating more pollution. the efficiency factor is greatly outweighed with the total footprint from manufacturing to demolition. The epa needs an overhaul. Every emission should be calculated from footprint lifespan.
Bottom line, EV it's not cost effective unless you are a tree hugger or have deep pockets. Range, by far gas version is superior in range and much cheaper to own. You'll never recover the cost to convert, your resale is not recoverable, I imagine it's at least 20k. Batteries will not last more than a few years unless you drive it basically on a daily basis, which I highly doubt people who owns this type of vehicles do.
I'll bet it's nice to drive an old VW without stinking up your clothes and breathing their dirty emissions. I have a Rabbit pickup and will do this some day.
I think it's great for now but long after this ev thing dies (25 years from now). The next owner will be converting it back to Gas lol that's how it always happens if we pay attention to history
Bringing good cars back to life. It sort of had a Jetson's whir to it. Next up. Importing a bunch of German Military G240, G250, G300, G400, G450's and putting 350 V8's in them. Just kidding... or...
Electric. Not a fan nor a believer in the perceived value. The emissions either come at the exhaust pipe or the power plant. There's no getting around it.
True and thank you. Residential solar and wind in my mind should be a mandatory discussion. While tax payer dollars are flushed down the toilet on "Solar Roadway" bs we could be putting those dollars to use in viable technologies. In my opinion every new home should have solar and wind built in without adversely affecting the cost of the home. These are problems that are solvable.
William Hayden there is a difference, a fossil fuel engine is about 25 percent efficient, an ev is 95 percent efficient, so regardless of source for ev power, it uses much less energy so much less pollution. Also as energy transfers from fossil fuels sources to alternate( but soon to become the norm) sources, ev will have less and less pollution, where fossil fuel will always have the same amount of pollution with little to no chance for improvement. As an aside if you research a little you will find that cost of building and fueling any fossil fuel energy source( also includes nuclear) is now more expensive than building and " fueling" any alternate energy source. Simple economics is now driving the shift to alternate sources, they are now the cheaper alternative, and will continue to get still cheaper, where fossil fuels will continue to get more costly regardless of their availability
Peope don't seem to take into account a lot of the key benefits of electric besides the fuel source. You also have engine oil, antifreeze - on most cars, transmission fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid. All of which need to be processed, transported, used and then disposed not to mention what leaks and gets into the enviorment. Electric vehicles are much less complicated and don't require as many systems and parts that an internal combustion vehicle do. There is no exhaust system, no transmission, no brake pads and drums or rotors since the electric motor don't need a transmission and can be used for braking. The trade-off is the materials in the battery and how you charge the battery.
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John, so glad to see you working with electric cars. I think you would contribute and massive boost to that industry.
Thanks again for the tour that your staff gave me last time I was in LA I am currently in San Diego until June 5th and I'm going to visit EV West again. I am researching parts for a full size pickup truck that we will convert back in New Jersey at a local college.
Love your company and what you stand for. Thanks.
Great video covering a topic which I haven't been able to find much on; to keep, or ditch the gearbox and/or clutch.
its cool when you bring some people along with you for the videos
My ‘64 Beetle has a range of between 170 and 190 miles I think. Haven’t run it down to zero to find out. I’m running a Hyper 9HV motor and 7 batteries, 3 in the frunk and 4 behind the back seat. It’s a rocket!
Do you know how much emissions it takes to create one pound of lithium....
Do you? (real question)
Have yall ever done an fj60? Would love to see what you come up with if so.
My Dad used to have a Thing. It was a great Mexico car. No worry about parking dings, take off the doors, lower the windshield and ride! It was odd him having that car having retired from the CHP as Deputy Chief. Why not put all the batteries on the bottom of the flat floor pan?
Beautiful Oceanside, CA
cleanest EV conversion ever. Course being from ICON not hard to believe.
Have you guys ever think to sell the conversion kits?? I own a vw181 as well!
I come at this from another direction. It is nice that electric can be better for emissions, but I don't even really care. I just find it so cool that you get mostly silent powerful propulsion that you "fuel up" in your own garage! The fact that electric motors can last virtually forever while being maintenance free is groovy too.
Saludos! aproxcimadamente qué precio tiene la conversión de éste vehículo de gas a eléctrico? Gracias.
Cool looking forward to it
What controls the RPMs when in neutral?
+Greg Straightedge WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!??
Very exciting project
awesome. I would love to have one.
anyone who "poo poo's" electric cars as a whole have obviously never driven one.....the amount of instant torque you get is incredible! That alone is worth the try.
An electric fj40 would be very cool to see, but probably to heavy!
Continue with good work icon!
im really eager to see the tesla killer mecrury ev
VERY interested in this build. Depending how this turns out I may be ordering one or two.
Did you order one? I'm curious because I was thinking of ordering one too but I only have $12 to my name and Icon is probably charging 300k for one. Also, have you ever been bird watching?
geeez the background noise on this one... can hardly make out half of the conversation, much less the spec run through from 10:40 :(
hat is going to be soooo awesome!
YEAH Derelict EV sounds way cool
I'm thinking LOTSA batteries in that one
A stock vw in well sorted condition is a very reliable, fun car. It goes ok and stops well. It’s easy to fix on the rare occasion something does go wrong. And the engine in the gas engine car sounds great. The electric version is quicker (though not much in this comparison) but what about the downsides:
You loose the mechanical ness that’s part of the reason for buying something vintage
Lousy range
Can you add heat and a/c as you can to a stock vw?
No spare tire and very little luggage room in a car that already has a limited amount.
4-5 times the price
A thing as well as a bug are a great platform for off reading. That goes away with the electric version due to weight and that limited range.
i could drive one of these low range ev's daily, i only go like 20 miles max a day, to and from..
dont want to look at your faces all the time, show the car
A well-done vid but a stock engine assembled with care and attention to detail is still a good power plant no matter what anyone says IMO.
I meant to say July 5th
So clean and smart EV Classic! The only reason, we use fossil fuel is the oil industry!
"I don't understand why people try to get away from the trans with ev...just leave it in 3rd"
answered his own question.
Id rather see a classic VW burn E85 over running straight electric to be honest.
Did he just cross a double-double solid line?? lol
if you charge it at night you defeat the purpose. Your burning coal or natural gas. No sugar coating here. So you either like fracking or huge coal pollution. Plus you factor in the battery waste and footprint for manufacturing and you are creating more pollution. the efficiency factor is greatly outweighed with the total footprint from manufacturing to demolition. The epa needs an overhaul. Every emission should be calculated from footprint lifespan.
Bottom line, EV it's not cost effective unless you are a tree hugger or have deep pockets. Range, by far gas version is superior in range and much cheaper to own. You'll never recover the cost to convert, your resale is not recoverable, I imagine it's at least 20k. Batteries will not last more than a few years unless you drive it basically on a daily basis, which I highly doubt people who owns this type of vehicles do.
Bonito zafary muy iriginal
I'll bet it's nice to drive an old VW without stinking up your clothes and breathing their dirty emissions.
I have a Rabbit pickup and will do this some day.
I think it's great for now but long after this ev thing dies (25 years from now). The next owner will be converting it back to Gas lol that's how it always happens if we pay attention to history
Bringing good cars back to life. It sort of had a Jetson's whir to it. Next up. Importing a bunch of German Military G240, G250, G300, G400, G450's and putting 350 V8's in them. Just kidding... or...
ever heard of microphones?
No.
Solar and wind will power electric !!
That guy is a terrible passenger 😂
Electric. Not a fan nor a believer in the perceived value. The emissions either come at the exhaust pipe or the power plant. There's no getting around it.
True and thank you. Residential solar and wind in my mind should be a mandatory discussion. While tax payer dollars are flushed down the toilet on "Solar Roadway" bs we could be putting those dollars to use in viable technologies. In my opinion every new home should have solar and wind built in without adversely affecting the cost of the home. These are problems that are solvable.
Right there with u on that one J man!
William Hayden there is a difference, a fossil fuel engine is about 25 percent efficient, an ev is 95 percent efficient, so regardless of source for ev power, it uses much less energy so much less pollution. Also as energy transfers from fossil fuels sources to alternate( but soon to become the norm) sources, ev will have less and less pollution, where fossil fuel will always have the same amount of pollution with little to no chance for improvement. As an aside if you research a little you will find that cost of building and fueling any fossil fuel energy source( also includes nuclear) is now more expensive than building and " fueling" any alternate energy source. Simple economics is now driving the shift to alternate sources, they are now the cheaper alternative, and will continue to get still cheaper, where fossil fuels will continue to get more costly regardless of their availability
Pick your poison. Apparently, you have. But it's not that simple.
Peope don't seem to take into account a lot of the key benefits of electric besides the fuel source. You also have engine oil, antifreeze - on most cars, transmission fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid. All of which need to be processed, transported, used and then disposed not to mention what leaks and gets into the enviorment. Electric vehicles are much less complicated and don't require as many systems and parts that an internal combustion vehicle do. There is no exhaust system, no transmission, no brake pads and drums or rotors since the electric motor don't need a transmission and can be used for braking. The trade-off is the materials in the battery and how you charge the battery.